problem with the max fleet, the 737 maxes in terms of a stuck rutter, and they claim that they have identified it and fixed it on the affected united plane. the question is whether any other airline may have the same. so on the one hand, it's great that they're identifying and catching problems. on the other hand, as you could see, somebody could have been killed by the falling tire yesterday if the parking lot. thankfully no injuries at all from any of these incidents this week. >> tom costello, i'm flying next week if you could fix all of this by then, that would be great. >> i'm going to work overtime this weekend. >> tom, always great seeing you. that's going to do it for us this hour. make sure to join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday, 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" right now. good to be with you, i'm katy tur. chub to the rescue. the insurance giant is backing

donald trump, helping him post the $91.6 million bond for e. jean carroll. now that he has shown he can get the money, what can it mean for the 460 million and counting he owes the state of new york. joining us now msnbc legal continue, lisa rubin. he was due to post this bond on monday. yesterday you and i were talking about the delay he was asking for. that was denied. >> that was. >> so posting it, what does it mean to have this on the books. >> it means that e. jean carroll is protected through the second circuit's disposition. one of the things i noticed when i was going through the bond today is that it actually only covers the appeal to the second circuit. it doesn't cover any appeal that he would take from the second circuit if it affirms the jury's verdict of $83.3 million. >> you're going to have to explain that. >> if he appeals further to the supreme court, he's going to need somebody else to come in and provide that security if he takes that appeal further. otherwise, he will owe her that money within a certain number

of days. >> chub says it will only give him this money up to the appeal of the second circuit. if the second circuit says no, we believe this money is justified, and it's the right judgment, then got to find someone else. >> well, it says it will play. let's say for the sake of argument that donald trump loses at the second circuit, and he chooses not to take an appeal to the united states supreme court. at that point, either trump pays or following around 60 days. chubb itself will pay. if he wants to go to the supreme court, he has to find somebody else to provide the security. >> part of the questions around why he was asking for a delay on the money surrounded whether he wanted to show the courts in the engoron ruling, the 460 plus

ruling that he would be able to get the bond, right? now that he's shown this, what could it mean for that giant sum of money? >> well, if i see the filings that were made today, i am incorporating them into the brief that i have due monday, where i say, donald trump is asking this court to allow him to post either no bond or a substantially reduced bond from his filings in the e. jean carroll case, he is capable of getting a major insurer, no less, to help him post $91.63 million. yes, that's less than what he would owe here, but it's not as if he's involving some fringy financial institution or some benefactor we have never heard of. chubb, they aren't minor players. >> there is a question of the

moment we are currently in, and part of the argument is the real estate market has not bounced back, especially for commercial real estate. would that be taken into consideration? >> in terms of the size of the bond? >> yes. >> that's certainly part of the argument for donald trump's financial disclosures. donald trump owns lots of different types of assets, including securities which can also be liquidated. he has cash holdings, and he has properties that he can pledge as collateral to get a bond. how encumbered they are, how weighed down they are is not entirely transparent to us, but he's not a person lacking for assets to pledge as collateral. >> the court appointed monitor over the trump organization, there's some questions about what information she's requested and been given by the trump organization, explain that. >> she wrote a letter to judge engoron before he rendered his decision and the new york

attorney general civil fraud trial. see i'm having trouble keep track of this. where she said there were a number of instances in which money went out from the trump organization without her knowledge, and that she didn't get to her satisfaction documentation of trump's supposed paying off of a $48 million loan. she was never provided with documentation that indicated that the loan ever existed in the first place, and the only thing she was given was a single piece of paper from december of 2023, literally a memo to file, indicating that that debt had already been extinguished. how, we don't know. >> when we talk about lack of transparency with the trump organization, you know, infamously, very opaque. she's having a problem with transparency even though a court has appointed a monitor, and donald trump was part of the approval process for her. >> that's right. >> let me ask you about the classified documents case. try to keep them all straight in my head. there are so many. >> welcome to my world. >> this is the south florida

case. judge aileen cannon, what is the current status of that? >> we don't yet have a trial date in that case. we know there will be oral argument next thursday, march 14th on two of trump's motions to dismiss. records act, serving as a form of immunity for him and the other about the vagueness or unconstitutional impermissibility of certain charges because they're not detailed under the constitution to afford him due process. trump has five other motions to dismiss that are also pending. why judge cannon chose these two, suggests that she believes she might be able to resolve everything on the two motions. >> andrew weissmann was on the other day talking about the immunity with donald trump and the classified documents, trying to say it was okay because he was president. it would be like buying a gun

legally and shooting someone with it, and saying i didn't commit a crime because i bought this gun legally, and yesterday when i read the motion and the response from jack smith, i believe i texted you and said i would be a terrible lawyer, i should not go to law school because my response to a motion that trump's team was putting in would be judge, your honor, come on, respectfully, katy tur. there might have been an expletive, but i won't say it. >> i'll never tell. >> lisa rubin, thank you very much. happy friday. >> you too. ronna mcdaniel is out and as of this morning, michael whatley is in. the north carolina operative is the head of the rnc putting him in charge of the party's reelection effort. he have to o. joining me from houston, texas, is nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard. so who is michael whatley?

>> reporter: michael whatley hails from the great state of north carolina, katy. he was the rnc chair in north carolina. this is a place where you would recall in 2020 donald trump actually beat joe biden, a swing state by just over 1 percentage point. it was notable, just one week ago in a rally in north carolina for donald trump, he said from that stage where he was previewing whatley's election to become rnc chair which took place here. in front of that north carolina crowd he said, quote, i had a choice of a lot of people. this is the guy because he stopped the steal. he stopped the steal, again making a direct reference to the fact that he won the state of north carolina. michael whatley is going to serve as chair, replacing ronna mcdaniel, but he's going to have the support of the cochair, laura trump, also a north carolinian, and also formally voted in here today. it's notable, there's a lot at

stake, as you just said, not only on the legal front for donald trump, but also on the political front and not just the white house races but down ballot. there are less than eight months until the general election. this is a real question mark as to what extent as the trump campaign merges into the rnc, do they replace senior staff, existing senior staff from the rnc to bring in their own troops to run the show. chris acevedo is coming in. there's a lot of outstanding questions going into next week at a moment in time. quite a head turning moment in time to put in somebody new, elevate somebody new at the post after ronna mcdaniel had been running the show for seven years. >> what about the expectation of what he might do on election day itself, vaughn? >> reporter: for? >> he was claiming in north carolina he single handedly

stopped the steal in north carolina because he had election monitors. that's part of what donald trump liked about him. >> reporter: right, it's what he likes about him, and ronna mcdaniel also called him an ally. and her good-bye remarks made mention of the vast investments that he's going to see through in what they call election integrity, and i think that those are the question marks around what can michael whatley did from what he did in north carolina to other parts of the country. the rnc has filed multiple lawsuits ahead of the election in multiple states regarding election processes and michael whatley is going to be at the forefront of ensuring, at least to donald trump that the republican national committee is doing everything in its power to make sure the election is fair, to satisfy him and his campaign. >> vaughn hillyard, thank you very much. and still ahead, donald trump will get access to u.s. intelligence again, once he becomes the nominee. what dangers his former national security adviser says that poses, and what he says the

biden administration should do instead. plus, what the state of the union did for president biden's reelection prospects. and remember the guy who has correctly predicting every presidential election since 1982 including trump in 2016, using what he calls the key to the presidency, allan lichtman joins me on what he says his prediction said this time around. we're back in 60 seconds. 're bas come on. i already got a pneumonia vaccine, but i'm asking about the added protection of prevnar 20®. if you're 19 or older with certain chronic conditions like asthma, diabetes, copd, or heart disease, or are 65 or older, you are at increased risk for pneumococcal pneumonia. prevnar 20® is approved in adults to help prevent infections from 20 strains of the bacteria that cause pneumococcal pneumonia. in just one dose. don't get prevnar 20® if you've had a severe allergic reaction to the vaccine or its ingredients.

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documents at mar-a-lago. and the same donald trump who had his intelligence access revoked for it, after he left office. so why is that donald trump getting access back? joining us now, former national security adviser to president trump, john bolton. really good to have you ambassador. let me ask you, why is this a danger to give him access to intelligence? >> well, i think trump demonstrated during his presidency and certainly in the handling of the documents after his presidency that he doesn't pay adequate attention to safeguarding these secrets and that the danger is i think commonly known of when they get into the wrong hands of not just revealing the information itself, but risking the sources and methods that are used to procure the information. so i'm somewhat perplexed myself that the biden white house has apparently agreed that he'll get these briefings.

i don't think it makes any sense, and i think it really puts whatever he is told at risk of being disclosed. >> so the biden administration, according to sources talking to nbc news has said that the reason they're doing this is because they want to maintain a semblance of normalcy in the campaign. so president trump can't paint himself as the victim of politicalization? >> well, good luck with that, i mean, let's go back to the original purpose, really, president truman had in mind when he first authorized. i'm pretty sure it was truman. first authorized giving briefings to presidential candidates. it was to avoid a candidate saying in ignorance, something that could impair the national security. so it wasn't to satisfy the curiosity of the candidate. it was to protect the overall national interest. you know, we had a hard time getting trump to pay attention

in many many days of those briefings, and when he did really pay attention, it was often because he wanted to keep a document or something that from time to time he went on. i think if you're going to do these briefings, they ought to be done right. i also disagree with some former intelligence community people who say, well, if he's going to get the briefings make sure they're pad lam, i'm summarizing it. i don't like that either. give the briefing the way it should be or let's just dispense with it and let trump say whamp what he wants. >> there are voters who say nothing really bad happened or they look at what he tweeted out or what he was discussing with the japanese or what he, you know, told the russians in the oval office or the classified documents at mar-a-lago, and they'll say nothing bad happened. there's been no effect of this, you know, alleged carelessness with intelligence or classified information. why do you argue that they

should take it seriously? >> well, because the people who say that can't possibly know whether it's true or not. one of the things other governments do is keep better secret sometimes than we do. so being able to use this information, which they can put into an overall mosaic of what they're getting from other sources could well benefit them in ways that the public can't possibly know. i would say with respect to whatever he showed japanese prime minister shinzo abe. that's an ally of the united states. you know, we share a lot of intelligence with allies, trump's mistake was doing it on the patio of mar-a-lago where his guests could see it as well. if you're going to reveal information to an ally, do it strategically, not just for the sake of showing that you know something that the ally or your adversary doesn't. that's the problem with trump. he can't understand why it is that he should be constrained and talking about the information.

so i guess i would say if the biden administration is determined to let this open, i'd impose conditions on the briefings. i wouldn't let any advisers in the room with donald trump. so if the information does leak out, we know exactly where it came from. and i wouldn't show him or leave documents or photographs. i would give a verbal briefing that home hopefully could minimize the downside risk of him revealing something. >> if donald trump is elected again, what happens to nato? >> well, i'm very concerned. i think he's bound and determined to withdraw the united states from nato. i think the notion that he somehow is using this as a bargaining leverage to get other nato members to increase their defense spending is wrong. thousands of people over decades, myself included as a small part of that have pushed our allies to spend more on defense so we could strengthen nato. i think trump uses the failure of some of these allies to spend

what they themselves committed to spend ten years ago, not to strengthen nato but to weaken it. i think the risk of withdrawal is very real. >> the hungarian president, viktor orban is visiting donald trump at mar-a-lago today. what do you make of that? >> well, you know, i first met viktor orban back in the '90s right after the warsaw pact collapsed when he was a young small l liberal leader of forces in hungary. it's an amazing transformation. honestly, his greatest sin is not his domestic policies which we can certainly didn't. it's that he's betraying the hungarian revolution of 1956 by getting close to the kremlin. back then, his fellow hungarians were fighting for freedom against the soviet union, and today he has drawn hungary closer to russia. i think betraying them and really betraying the nato alliance. that's a problem.

imagine what he and trump are talking about when they talk about nato. >> you have been long saying that donald trump shouldn't get close to this guy. you were against him coming to the white house but were overruled by mick mulvaney. >> you win some and you lose some. that goes with the territory. i think the way hungary behaved along with turkey, and holding up the admission of sweden to nato was outrageous. hungary as the warsaw pact and the soviet union were collapsing back in 1990 and '91, hungary was one of the very first countries to come to nato and say we want to be admitted. hungary wanted to join the western european group of countries in the u.n. they knew what it was like to be under russian domination. they wanted nothing to do it. it's another example of orban not fully understanding his own country's history. >> ambassador john bolton, thank you very much for joining us, we

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swing state, democrats say they are breathing a little easier after last night's state of the union address. what about the independents, though, or moderate republicans like the ones who voted for nikki haley. joining us now former white house communications director and cohost of msnbc's "how to win 2024" podcast, jen palmieri, and msnbc political analyst, and national affairs correspondent at the nation, john nichols, thank you both for being here. john, i'm going to start with you. president biden talked a lot about jobs last night, job growth, creation, focused on the manufacturing sector, the tech sector, and unions. he cover unions, tell me what you heard? >> i heard a lot of things that were clear outreach to unions and actually pretty smart outreach. look, the highlight of it was, of course, when he shouted out to uaw president shawn fain, and you saw the president of the united auto workers who was not one of the first people to come to biden this year. they delayed their endorsement,

stand up, point to the president, raise a clenched fist, that isn't any analysis i can give to tell you that biden was saying and doing the right things in this speech. but beyond that, if you listen in to what biden was saying, this was a speech saying, look, the economy is good, that biden is, you know, relatively centrist democrat, no radical, that at the end of the day, he wants to make sure that corporations treat their workers fairly. and that he recognizes that unions are a big part of that. overall, it's a very mainstream, traditional democratic message, one that i think hits well at this point. >> i think a lot of people were surprised at the force with which president biden delivered that speech last night. the bar was set pretty low. tell me what your reaction is? >> i thought that, i mean, first

of all, the performance was phenomenal, and that is when you have i felt like some of the meat of the speech was very much with a centrist democratic agenda. the performance, the raising of democracy, ukraine, abortion, as issues right up front. that's definitely a message for swing voters as well. and, katy, you know, he's been president for three years now, and i think that he is now -- we're sort of less reacting to him as the man he served under and the president he replaced, right, he is president biden, and very much middle class joe but with a lot of, you know, a lot of language about unions. he really wants to be the president that stops the middle class slide, and also with that world experience to be the leader of the free world at a critical time. and i felt like even though he's been president for three years,

he's out from the shadow of obama and of trump and really put forward a compelling vision of how he sees america, and it was optimistic. and speaking of the tough time in the country, we need our elders to be the ones who are optimistic for us. so i think he did himself, you know. >> a moment that caught my eye, here's the shawn fain moment that john was mentioning a moment ago. i want to talk about immigration. that is such a top issue for voters. here's the president addressing immigration and the reaction from one republican senator. >> in november, my team began serious negotiation of a bipartisan group of senators. the result was a bipartisan bill with the toughest set of border security reforms we have ever seen. oh, you don't think so?

oh, you don't like that bill, huh? that bipartisan bill would hire 1,500 more security agents and officers, 100 more immigration judges, 4,300 more asylum officers and new policies to resolve cases in six months instead of six years now. [ applause ]. >> you see senator james langford right there, mouthing that's true. langford was one of the cowriters of that bill, and pretty upset that republicans torpedoed it. john, this is an issue that's top of mind for a lot of voters, not just in border states but across the country. what's your sense of who voters are blaming for the immigration crisis? >> it's a great battle right now. everybody's trying to point the finger of blame at somebody else. but i will tell you what you saw last night in that remarkable communication with senator langford, where they were literally almost, the president

and he were almost talking to one another, it seemed, and then the senator nodded his approval. he said that's true. that's powerful for biden. i know that this is an insider thing, not everybody is watching for the camera cut away state of the union address, but what that suggests to me is that if biden keeps talking about it in this way he has an ability to get through to a substantial section of potentially even swing voters on this issue. and one final thing i'll say there, langford is a very devout christian, he came to the immigration issue because of his christianity, because of his, you know, faith that you have to treat, you know, newcomers and people who are not from where you are in a humane way, and i think that biden, if he talks about it in that way and says, look, there are practical ways to solve these issues, to resolve these issues that are humane and also frankly

necessary. there's a real space for him politically. i don't think that the democrats have to be on the defensive on this issue. >> let me ask you, jen, real quick before we go, about katie britt and her response last night. obviously getting a lot of attention today for not as much what she said but the way that she delivered it. tommy tuberville, the other senator from alabama said this about her, quote, she was picked as a housewife, not just as a senator, someone who sees it from a different perspective. i mean, she did what she was asked to do, i thought she did a good job. it's hard when you've never done anything like that. she was picked as a housewife, jen. >> katie, i did "morning joe" this morning and i got about a half hour of sleep because i was so disturbed by senator britt's response, and i had to puzzle through what it was i found so disturbing. she is a serious united states senator. she represents 5 million people.

i know there are democratic senators as well as republican senators who really respect her and her skill, and she sat there as if she was completely powerless in this democratic endeavor, as if she was a bystander and not someone with agency representing 5 million alabamans, i'm torturing that but 5 million people from alabama as a leader, and i just -- and if you've seen any other video of her, she was not herself. and to contort herself that way and not stand up as someone who's a united states senator who has power in this, until the congress and something to say about what she thinks should happen but to sit there in a kitchen, i don't know whose kitchen that is, and just act as if she is some kind of mom on tiktok that doesn't have a role

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a handful of counties across the country could explain what's going to happen in november, including gwinett county, georgia, and that is where we find nbc news correspondent, blayne alexander who's in lawrenceville, so blayne, these are swing voters in a swing district. what are they telling you? >> reporter: it's very clear, one that they're not very thrilled with the choices they have before them in november. two, what's interesting to me is the people i spoke with throughout the day today made it clear that they feel differently

now than they did four years ago. i talked to two people who told me that four years ago in 2020, they actually voted for joe biden as president. this time, though, they say they're not sure. they're either leaning toward third party candidates or staying at home all together. another woman told me she sat out of the presidential election in 2020. since then she's come to realize there's in her words, just too much at stake. she's determined to inform herself and cast a ballot this time around. here's a little bit of what i heard from voters today. take a listen. >> i actually did not vote for president. i didn't. i voted for all other seats. i just couldn't bring myself between the two to vote for either. >> reporter: we're looking at the same choice now. biden or trump. >> and that's why i'm still very much in the air. >> reporter: my student loans were forgiven. thank you, joe biden, for that. >> reporter: that's important to you? >> it's something i don't want riding me in history.

so, yeah, i just -- he has really won my confidence because it's not about show boating. sadly, a lot of people don't want to vote period because they're not confident in either candidate. >> reporter: and these are people who voted in 2020 for biden? >> yes. >> reporter: and they're telling you now. >> they just don't know if they're going to vote. >> reporter: now, katy, that last woman i spoke with, her name is nicole. she's somebody who in her words was going out, hitting the pavement and knocking on doors for candidates. she says the people she was talking about were those doing the same thing with her, and that enthusiasm has waned since then. one quick thing, i want to remind you and our viewers why this place is so important. in 2008, democrats lost by about 10 points and in 2020, joe biden won by about 18 points. when you're talking about a county like this, of course, in a state like georgia that holds the key to both party's road to

the white house, very important to hear from the voters and see what they think come november. >> blayne alexander, important indeed. thank you very much. joining us now, presidential historian and distinguish professor of history at american university, allan lichtman. it's good to have you back. >> my pleasure. you got an unblemished record of predicting presidential elections since 1984. you said al gore was going to get the popular vote, he did, even though he didn't get the presidency. tell me why you can predict these things. remind us. >> because i say forget the polls, forget the pundits, keep your eye on the big picture, and my prediction system, the keys to the white house, which tap into the fundamental structure of election, which are essentially votes up and down on the strength and performance of the white house party, and i have 13 keys that gauge that,

and a simple decision rule. if six or more of the keys go against the white house party, they are predicted loser, fewer than six, they are predicted winners, and this has stood me in good stead for 40 years. >> it has been 40 years. i was born 1930, what am i talking about, 1983, and i'm 40 so that makes sense. let me put up the keys. i'd look great if i was born in 1930. here they are. you're saying if six of themgo against the incumbent, that's bad news. what's your count as it currently stands? >> let me give you real insight. there's been all of this growsing about joe biden, you know, he's too old, he's lost it. maybe there will be less after the state of the union. biden run, the democrats have their best chance of winning. if you see my keys, he obviously

wins the incumbency key, the party contest key. he's virtually uncontested. that's two keys off the top that they win. six more would have to fall to predict their defeat. biden doesn't run, they lose both of those keys and only four more keys would have to fall. right now, there are only two keys locked in against joe biden. key number one, my party mandate key because they lost house seats in the midterm elections, and key number 12 because biden is not of those once in a generational inspirational candidates. so a lot can go wrong to predict a biden defeat. so what should you be looking at, what the pundits and polls can't tell you. third party, my key number four,

will rfk jr. emerge as a significant third party contender, polling at least 10% as we get closer to the election. i have two foreign policy keys, success and failure. there are two wars going on, things are very uncertain and very fluid. both of those keys are very shaky, beyond that, it doesn't look like too many keys could fall. the short-term economy, the economy is not in recession. the long-term economy is very strong, if you look at the other keys, joe biden clearly has achieved policy change over donald trump. no significant social unrest like we had in the '60s that threaten the stability in the country despite sporadic protests and any favorite key, the scandal key because it enables me to talk about salacious but biden is anything but salacious.

republicans have been for years trying to pin something on joe biden, and they have spectacularly failed. that's it. as i said the two foreign policy keys are shaky, biden loses the incumbent charisma key but wins the key which says the challenging party candidate is not one of those once in a generation inspirational candidates like franklin roosevelt or ronald reagan. donald trump is a great showman, but he appeals to a narrow base. here's the thing about donald trump, he's been in national politics for ten years, katy, and you know what, his approval rating doesn't move an inch. it's been 40%, plus or minus a few points, unchanged, no matter what he does, two impeachments, bragging about sexually assaulting women. being civilly convicted of sexual assault. facing 91 felony counts.

it doesn't change the inspirational candidate. i have not made a prediction, but a lot would have to go wrong for biden to lose. >> allan lichtman, we have to leave it there. we'll watch and have you back on as we get closer to november. thank you very much for joining us. would a better than expected jobs report might lead the fed to do about interest rates. this will have an effect on november as well. first up, what president biden said on a hot mic about prime minister netanyahu. prime u

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humanitarian issue. ramadan is approaching. it will be a tense period. there may be problems in the west bank. no deal looks imminent. hostage for prisoner releases and a 45-day cessation of hostilities or temporary cease-fire. the administration is right to press. i think the israelis also are willing, it seems to me, even though the prime minister seems to be pursuing a just say no policy. i think they will press on humanitarian assistance and i think the israelis will open up another checkpoint and it will take 45 to 60 days to get the marine corridor up and running. my basic takeaway has been the same since this began, that joe biden is pursuing what i call a passive/aggressive policy against -- with respect to israel. he's not willing to impose costs or consequences, restricting american military assistance, changing his voting posture in

new york on u.n. security council resolutions or pushing for a unilateral cease-fire, regardless of any return of hostages. he's not willing to go there. for any number of reasons. that has not changed. i don't think the strange formulation on the hot mic is going to change that. it may serve the president's interests that he's prepared to be tough with the israelis. >> let me ask you what this administration has done, that is the sanctions on settlers in the west bank. the language in that sanctioned text is pretty vague and it could potentially apply to not just settlers but to officials in israel. i'm thinking of like the far right ministers who are advocating or, you know, tacitly supporting violence against palestinians. i think tacitly is a generous way of putting it. could you see this administration using those

levers against the israeli government and potentially forcing benjamin netanyahu into a position where he has no choice but to moderate? >> i don't see it. i think that's complicated. i think it's easy to go after extremist settlers without addressing the root cause of the settlement enterprise, which not just with this israeli government but so many others, has been a continued expansion of settlements. i think that that's, what, a shot, but it seems to me that in order to sanction a sitting minister in a government, the consequences i think would be extremely serious. i'm not sure the president wants to go there. the only hope here, katy, it is still hope, is to get a hostage for prisoner exchange. it's the only mechanism that would allow a deescalation, an

end to israeli military capabilities for six weeks and a surge of humanitarian assistance. without that i fear the situation will get worse before it gets worse. >> the negotiation does not look like it's in a good place. ramadan fast approaching. thank you very much. sorry we had to be so short today. coming up next good news from last month's job numbers and what it could mean for possible interest rate cuts. he hits his mark —center stage—and is crushed by a baby grand piano. you're replacing me?

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february's jobs report is in and shows another month of growth. joining us now nbc news business and data reporter brian cheung. what are the numbers? >> the number came in and showed that jobs market is chugging on all cylinders. 275,000 jobs added in the month of february about what economists had expected. they expected about 200,000 to be added in the month. we have to keep in mind the unemployment rate did tick up to 3.9%. the female and black unemployment rate rise.

where do we see the job gains in the month? we saw it in bars and restaurants and health care. check this out, health gains in information and professional and business services slower. these are including the tech jobs we've heard of layoffs in the past few months. we have to watch that thread as well. the labor market looks good but inflation remains the story the biden administration has acknowledged remains the issue for this economy. prices 3.1% higher than this time last year but wages as we saw in this report 4.3% higher. wages outpacing inflation. that's good news. we'll see if that trend holds in the months to come. >> i love when wages outpace inflation. make sure wages outpace inflation at the grocery store. thank you very much. that's it for me today. "deadline: white house" starts right now. ♪♪ hi there everyone. it's friday. we made it. it's 4:00 in new york.