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welcome back to the weekend. donald trump returned to the actual scene of the crime this week. heading to capitol hill for the first time, since his extremist supporters violently stormed the building on january , 2021, and of course, congressional republicans rolled out the red carpet for the man whose election lives in a world of delusion. put their constitutional duty and their very lives in danger. joining us now, democratic congressman of maryland, ranking member of the house oversight and accountability committee. welcome, congressman, good to have you back. >> thank you for having me. >> so, to recap, he comes to capitol hill on the heels of a guilty verdict in the election interference case out of nor
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new york, pending federal charges for conspiring to overturn the 2020 election, which culminated in that building, and he returns emboldened, to a party devoid of critics. what does that mean for this moment? what does that for democracy? >> well, he can back to the scene of his crime, he made no apology to 150 capitol officers , npd, montgomery county police officers, who were injured and wounded by the mob he unleashed against us on that day. there were republicans, who had at least tried to cry foul at that moment, who now have completely swallowed all of their misgivings. >> mitch mcconnell chief among them. >> they are trying to pretend like nothing big happened, and donald trump can feel proud that he has consolidated cultish type control and power over the republican party, but it is a scandal and a disgrace for the country. >> i mean-- hakeem jeffries had this to say along those very
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lines about this meeting on capitol hill, and donald trump 's return. take a listen, folks. >> it was shameful and a complete embarrassment that my extreme mega republican colleagues decided to welcome the insurrectionist and chief back. to the capitol, as a conquering hero, not someone who lied about the 2020 presidential election and incited a violent mob to attack the capitol in order to halt the peaceful transfer of power. >> this is not something that happens in a vacuum. right? like, donald trump returning to capitol hill is not just business as usual. i believe what we saw this week is actually a preview of what is to come if, in fact, he is elected president in november.
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a man, whose party, whether they are state leaders across the country? or elected members of congress, who will set there to represent the people in their districts, are willing to bend the knee and bend over, or forward, depending on what you think, to do whatever this man asked them to do. for what reason? >> well, we are seeing a complete corruption of public institutions, as well as individual officials in the federal branch of government in the legislative side and in the judicial side. and, you know, that is what unifies what is happening in the supreme court, what is happening in the republican party, what is happening with congressional republicans. absolute corruption of their duty. we swore an oath to uphold the constitution of the united states, not to uphold one guy or one party or the interests of one billionaire sugar daddy,
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and yet, that is what is taking place now, and yesterday they bowed down to the gun manufacturers and gave them exactly what they wanted, throwing out the rule of law, and it was very clear that when you add the bump stock to the semi automatic weapon, you have got the functional equivalent of a machine gun. everybody understands that. we saw what that meant at the las vegas massacre, our deadliest massacre in american history, 58 lives were wiped out , 500 people wounded, families still reeling from that disaster, and yet they make a mockery of the whole thing, with supreme court decisions that pictorial illustrations, little drawings to explain why they don't think it is operating like a machine gun, when everyone understands that it is. >> congressman, speaker johnson,
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he had a different take on the visit yesterday, a lot of us looked at it and went, okay, why is this happening? this is what speaker johnson had to say about the meeting with donald trump. >> we talked about how to grow this house majority, and how he will help in doing so, and then how we will help him as well. and this is a unified effort by the party. we are feeling good. as we walked out of the room today, one of our colleagues who has been around a long time, in congress a long time, he said i feel better, i feel more confident, more energy, more enthusiasm right now than i elton probably 40 years in politics. >> that-- that to me you know, i can't speak to what that member, you know software for years, but i know which we have seen over the last eight and the direction this country is going under the leadership of donald trump and republicans. how do you, as a member of the current minority in the house reposition the argument before
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the american people on issues like you just talked about, bump stops, the economy, we are not talking about the news in the economy this week. you have the dow continuing to surge, you haven't ration coming down. there are so many good elements, and yet we seem to be stuck in this rut of talking about the same old crazy, out of the grand old party. that sort of furthers their narrative, oh, yeah, things are great and we need donald trump back, because things are otherwise so that. >> yeah. well, look at that. that was a very candid and honest statement by speaker johnson, all they talked about politics, how they will get more people elected to give donald trump more power. were they talking about the climate change that is going to create this terrible heat wave across the country? >> i feel it this week, y'all. >> there are people going to trump rallies and passing out while he is denying climate change. people are being carted out into ambulances at his rallies.
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are they talking about gun violence? no. that is a big joke for them. you know, they turned the american flag upside down, they hoist high the nra flag, because that really is the flag of their party. you know, the gop follows the nra, which follows the gun manufacturers at this point, so, i take him at his word when he said, oh yeah, we got back then we just talked about trying to win and saying and doing anything possible to win so we can get back in and donald trump can resume his moneymaking operation. i mean everybody understands that is what it is about. he doesn't have any plans for america, he is going in to make money for him and his hotels and his family, just like jared kushner, who brought back $2 billion from the homicidal crown prince of saudi arabia. >> so, let me ask you, when you see don junior taking photos with victor or van, i think we all read it one way how do you read it? >> that the kind of corruption that they want to bring back
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with donald trump, to government, is intertwined with authoritarianism and corruption, the basic point of authoritarianism. not going to worry about social security and medicare and medicaid and infrastructure and the stuff we are trying to do in the democratic party, but they are going to worry about is giving certain people rich, so they all get a piece of the action. and so, people have got to understand that we will have a government like or been in hungry or putin in russia, or north korea, or xi jinping in china or marcos in the philippines in egypt. that is where we are headed if we let these people get back in. and it is not just donald trump anymore, it is all of them. the people who are in, the ones who have not gotten off of the bus, they are doubling down on the corruption, and for liz cheney and fork atkins and mike castille, the people saying we are not part of this anymore, more power to them, because
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those are the republicans that we need to hear from in this election, we are talking about moving to a completely different kind of government. >> we have to make a point about when i saw about, there's political reporting about donald trump calling mike johnson after his conviction, saying you have to do something about this, and then i saw this weekend like this feels like the opposite of what happens in a democracy, but reverend barber had this to say earlier this week and i think it definitely knocked me back, maybe it will not go back too. >> take a listen. >> but i do declare that in this moment the issue is not what we say to democracy, because democracy is kind of desperate and demagogues and dictators. democracies do that. the larger issue is what kind of democracy will be have which kind of democracy do we want? >> i am totally with reverend barber on this. when we say we want to say
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democracy, that makes it sound like democracy is just a status collection of institutions right? it is static and it stays in place. no, democracy is always in motion it is an unfinished project. so, the failures of democracy we have right now, the gerrymandering of our district, we've got voter suppression, we've got 700,000 people right here in washington, d.c., who are not representing congress. three and half million people in puerto rico who are not represented in congress. we have got to get democracy moving again. that is something that tocqueville said in a democracy in america, he said it is either shrinking or expanding and running and we have got to get back on the track. >> congressman, please stick around, because next we want to talk about the trips that greg thomas took, specifically on a republican mega donor's dying that were not disclosed until just now. and then later, folks, stick with us, because we have white house director, shalanda young,
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this week the senate judiciary committee revealed three, yes three additional trips taken by justice-- supreme court, justice clarence thomas, that he of course did not include in his financial disclosures. the pesky private jet trips that were paid for by billionaire, harlan crow. welcome those trips were taken 2017, 2019 and 2021. thomas's attorney said the trips, they didn't need to be disclosed because they fell under the personal, hospitality exemption. i went to the white house i didn't know we had photos developing overnight. also, you got senator, richard blumenthal, who now says democrats on the committee plan to keep investigating ethics violations on the nation's top court. jamie raskin is back. >> here's what i want you to
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help me understand, to the best of your understanding, what is the calculus on the part of summit democrats about choosing not to use their subpoena power in order to really get to the bottom of this? >> yeah, in fairness to our friends in the senate, we have got to recognize that the committee could issue a subpoena , but what matters is whether you can enforce a subpoena commanded the senate you can't enforce it without 60 votes. in other words you need the same number you would need in order to-- >> do anything. >> filibuster. so, i think that they have been proceeding with us to try to get whatever information we can , and we need to take this out to the american people and that is why aoc and i, we have got legislation to say that the $50 gift band that applies to all members of congress should apply to supreme court justices. why is the supreme court justice collecting hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions of dollars, as a frequent flyer for-- or frequent funder, like harlan crow? that doesn't make any sense. the make $300,000 a year.
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pay for your on vacation, pay for your own lunch. >> and i mean-- it's -- it's crazy. it's crazy. they have a $50 gift band, did you know about this personal hospitality exemption? i didn't know about that. >> well-- here's the thing. they have not just degraded the quality of the supreme court and ethics of the court, they have cheapened the meaning of friendship right? so, his friend sends him on vacation, which we should just call it, a payment, right? and, does anybody think that justice thomas would ever vote against the interests of that very special friend? who is pouring hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars in his direction? that is just corruption. >> especially because the standard is supposed to be an appearance of bias, the standards of recusal. this is well beyond the appearance of bias in this case, this is just straight up bias and they are not using that. >> this is the reality of a
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justice being compromised, and being partial and biased. but chief justice roberts, you know, who introduced the famous umpire metaphor says this is totally fine. how many umpires fly the flag of one of the teams in the world series when they are officiating the games? how many umpires have a wife, who goes and tries to reverse the results of the last game? you talk to people in pro baseball, they would say they would never accept this behavior from a real umpire. >> for me, i kind of look at it and i can't help but think, as most americans are looking at this and say, why-- why is the court allowed to get away with this? >> yes. >> why is the court not being pulled and, as any other institutional government would be pulled in? we get the separation of powers and how the constitution set it out, but you do, i mean, despite what the chief justice
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may say publicly, have oversight , it is a little thing called a budget idol and it says supreme court, it has a number behind it, and when you put a zero in there, you are going to get the chief justice is attention. and i think a lot of americans sort of look at this and go, well it is that important, it means that much, why are you so helpless? as congress? not just democrats versus republicans, but as congress to do something about this? >> look, the highest court in the land has the lowest ethical standards, they are the only court that doesn't have a binding ethics code, where you can actually go to make a-- >> can congress change that and write that code for them? >> no, as soon as we have the right congress, the democrats in the house would do that right now. we want an inspector general over in the supreme court, like we got an inspector general in homeland security or the department of defense. we want a binding ethics code, where you can actually make a complaint that will be heard. i mean, right now, if you have got a serious ethics complaint go to the supreme court, they
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put it in a bin, with all of the cuckoo had letters that come in. it is always the same and nothing ever happens with any of it. so, we need to clean it up, and you are right, we control their budget but it goes beyond that, we have the right to impeach supreme court justices, we can impeach them and we can change the appellate jurisdiction, the idea that somehow the justices are kings and queens is just an imitation of what donald trump is saying about a president. >> right. >> where is the investigation to the dobbs leak? >> yeah, what happened to the dobbs leak? it was a thing and then it just -- >> funny you should ask. they mobilize this huge investigation. 100 witnesses and chief justice roberts said they will get to the bottom of it. somebody leaked a supreme court opinion and then predictably, they went radio silent, the cat has got their time. you think it went to justice alito, who has proven himself to be a completely political actor here x in bed with all of these right-wing forces?
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could have something to do with, perhaps, justice thomas, we don't know. but they have dropped, we haven't heard anything about the leak of the dobbs opinion, and does that sound like sotomayor or taken ? i don't think so. >> activist lauren windsor released this undercover secretly recorded audio of justice alito, and justice roberts, and martha and alito, okay? and it helped expose a number of things. justice roberts in the audio, he said on it, like i think he often said in his statements, and what he says to the senate and to you all about why he can't come talk, that he, you know, fills this umpire role, and partial imbalance, this is what justice alito had to say. >> i think that the solution really is, like, winning the moral argument, like people in this country who believe in god are going to keep fighting for
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that to return our country to a place of godliness. >> i agree with you. i agree with you. >> you know what? i didn't go build up said more, okay, he-- he is not a christian nation. and it is not giving impartial. it is giving it is giving i have a thought and i am literally leaning on the scale. >> i mean, this is the critical culture that dominates on the supreme court, and also in congress. i mean, you know, a week doesn't go by where one of my republican colleagues doesn't get up on the floor and say the moral downfall of america was 1962 and engel versus vitali, with the supreme court banned prayer in the public schools. i always get up and i say, you know, the supreme court never banned prayer in the public schools as long as there are pop math quizzes, there will be prayer in public schools okay? anybody can pray whenever they
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want, it is just the government cannot dictate the script and then compel your kids to participate in it, but they want to restore prayer in the schools, they want government money going directly to churches and it is a complete violation of each separation of church and state, which they don't believe in, and the reason that medicine, the founder, felt so strongly about it is they don't want to churches to be corrupting government, but they also don't want government to be prostituting churches. and religion. and we are seeing that. i mean, donald trump has got his own bible, a convicted felon, ex-president, has written and published his own bible on tv. i mean, that is blasphemous. >> we will see him today. put the people in the purses come in there to put the temple of gum because it sounds like some stuff is going on. >> marilyn congressman, thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you. the justice department retribution for prosecutor,
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the dodge hornet r/t. the totally torqued-out crossover. mike thompson is going to court after the justice department said it will not prosecute attorney, merrick general merrick garland for contempt. getting the audio of president biden's interview, special counsel, robert kerr. kerr is investigating biden's handling of classified documents. garland's refusal to hand over his tapes is not a crime. johnson is now saying he will be quote, certifying the contempt reports to the u.s. attorney for the district of columbia. joining us now, what a treat, msnbc legal analyst, joyce vance, a former u.s. attorney at the professor alabama of law, and the hashtag sisters-in- law podcast in the flesh. at >> at the table. >> so nice. good morning, good morning. >> i always find it amusing,
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whatever republican these days start talking about the rule of law, and, you know, we need to get to the crime ring of the biden family, i want you to listen to senator, jamie vance on this whole merrick garland adventure. listen to it. >> well, first, laura, if you break the law you actually have to suffer some consequences for it. we have steve and and being threatened thrown into prison because he was in contempt of congress and i think it is important for republicans to say that if you guys try to weapon eyes the political system against your enemies, then we are actually going to follow the law, we are going to do what we have to do and you are going to suffer consequences for breaking the law. >> the part that amazes me is he is talking about merrick garland as if merrick garland has somehow done something wrong, which we know, you know, he has not. help us understand the context of what the republicans were requesting, why the ruling came
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the way it did, and what this really means when you hear this kind of what i call projection. because when you sit there and say, well, if you break the law and you reference steve bannon being thrown in it, because he was in contempt of congress, that is breaking the law, that is why he's going to prison. but you are the lawyer, you tell me. >> look, sometimes you listen to people, like jd vance speak and you wonder if they can hear themselves right? you wonder if they are doing it without any sense of irony or shame, because we hear this so much. this is what happened. merrick garland went up on capitol hill, doj produced a lot of information that was responsive to the request, they didn't produce tapes and one of the reason they didn't is because we know tapes can be manipulated. but the words on the page, the transcript, that is an absolute -- everyone can see what was said in that interview, and in fact, because the special counsel, robert her included some elliptical comments that i
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might not have made if i was writing a report like that, commenting on why he believed that a jury might not convict biden, saying because he was old, he had flood memory. >> pathetic. >> those are comments that, quite frankly no prosecutor should really be making, when they are writing a report like this. but her did, those have widely been picked up on by republicans i heard jd vance, the senator from ohio, talk about that an awful lot. this notion that there is a contempt of congress, because tape wasn't produced is ridiculous. it is just not the case on the facts here. this is and like a steve bannon, who simply ignored it. >> right. >> ignored it, a subpoena. i talked to some folks from the justice department this week and they said they are making the case that congress has turned a serious authority into a partisan weapon, and they pointed to merrick garland's op-
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ed, where he wrote about the unfounded attacks on the justice department, he wrote that they must and, he says using conspiracy theories, also don't violence or threats of violence to affect political outcomes is not normal. the short-term political benefits of those tactics will never make up for the long-term consequences of our country. merrick garland, that is not something that i have taken do for. merrick garland, he is a very reserved met, he was a judge for a very long time. he wrote in this op-ed that these false claims that the department is politicizing the work to somehow influence the outcomes of the election are made by some of those themselves who are politicizing the department for the outcome of the election. he is being very fiery. merrick garland is no longer going to take this sitting down, he is done with the mess. >> you know, one thing you don't due to a sitting attorney general is put people, the career people at the justice department at risk and that is what we have seen merrick garland responding to. i think in such a pronounced fashion. he has taken the personal hits without responding, but now we
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have seen it, he references in this piece, an attack on an fbi office, this notion that a former president is calling out, by name, prosecutors and including a former doj employee, who was involved in the manhattan prosecution. i think this notion that doj folks who go to work every day, keep their heads down, do their jobs and are now being subjected to this sort of risk and really, just having their culture, in many ways maligned, by people around the former president, that is what we are hearing him respond to with so much. merrick garland apparently had a redline. so, let's talk about what's motivating them, i want to understand i want you to think if i am missing it. what is it that you think some of this audio from the president would reflect him speaking in a way that, you know, reminds us that he has-- >> a narrative. >> exactly. and secondarily i think you alluded to this that it says we keep talking about lawlessness, if donald trump were to gain a
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second term, but there's already lawlessness now, so cross that off your list of concerns right? they are trying to create a false equivalency and i don't know if that plays in the mind of voters. >> yeah, i mean it is a really interesting question, what is going on here? is this about criminality? is congress actually outraged, because they believed that joe biden violated the law? remember, this all relates back to the classified documents situation, where biden and trump and pentz all have classified documents in their homes in the big dividing line between the two who didn't get prosecuted on the one who did? >> was who gave them back. >> obstruction of justice, i mean biden and pentz find them, doj, and take these. and of course, that is not what happened with the former president, who engaged in months of obstruction of justice after originally denying that there was anything at mar-a-lago or elsewhere. so, look, i think, yes, there is this effort to soften up public opinion, by trying to argue that all of these things
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are the same, when they are not. donald trump draws a huge benefit in this political campaign, by the fact that the mar-a-lago prosecution has been- - has just slowed to a snail's pace what happened before this election. and it is all a political narrative that is being overlaid on what should be strictly legal considerations. i mean, we all sit at that intersection of law and politics under very comfortable there, but it is worth saying to people that there are laws that have to be followed and that violations of those laws have consequences. that is what has become very blurry here, when it comes to the former president. >> trhs events, wonderful to have you at the table with us. ahead, how the biden administration is helping black americans as the white house celebrates juneteenth. this is the weekend. weekend. here's to getting better with age. here's to beating these two every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need... ...without the stuff you don't.
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chatting is a continuation of the last question we asked joyce about, why republicans want the audio, the potential to manipulated on the american people who understand that that is kind of like the game that they are playing, and we have seen it in so many instances just this week. not the audio manipulation, because they don't have it, and they are likely not to get it, but who knows, but you see these videos of joe biden at the g7 and we will have it for folks and he is at the g7 police paratroopers are landing, and in the clip that went viral from the rnc and the new york post and all of these right-wing outlets that put it out there, you would think that joe biden was just old man, he had to be yanked back by the italian leader. >> that is also the video that they adopted that showed joe biden looked like he was trying to sit on a chair made up there. >> yes! and france. >> in france and normandy. look, i am telling folks who have been seeing it for a while whenever we talk about it, we haven't got into the ai piece of this. this is just taking this raw
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footage and editing it-- >> whipping it. >> clipping it and editing it. wait until we get to the meat of this campaign on the hard right starts throwing out ai versions of their reality and putting this in the public space, and people will be confused. you were talking about a group of folks, you are talking to and their impression, based off of what that one clip-- >> i was talking to some students yesterday and i have them how many of them saw the video of the president at juneteenth and they all raised their hand i said what did you think? and they said oh, he was frozen, he was stuck and i was just like you all not-- first of all, i'm sitting behind the president and kurt franco was on stage being like i don't want to love nobody but you, do it mr. president, joe biden was like -- we are not doing-- >> the vice president can do it. it's not going to work for the president, but without the context that is a type of discipline that i am looking to
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go. know your limits. >> joe biden was like -- >> meanwhile in the back i was like -- you have a former president talking about how the city where the are in is going to be hosted is horrible, and then the republicans don't even know which defense to use. >> they don't. that is so awkward, they don't even know which defense. so, yeah, so you have the ones, but all of the defense is donald trump is right, that at the end of the day, whether he knew about it, didn't know about it, whether he agreed or disagreed he was right, and so, look, this is the reality. you can't expect anything more than what you are already getting from republicans. there will be no national discussion on big policy issues as jamie raskin talked about. that is largely going to be left to democrats to sort of frame those narratives. but at the same time you have got to do the politics. the politics go to what simone
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was talking about in terms of taking things as they occur and recontextualizing them into our particular narrative about joe biden. >> can i? why does donald trump keep telling people to their votes? because that is also what donald trump is doing. mike was like why are you play? i'm not! to alysia's point he is dressing all of these things. what he said about milwaukee was behind closed doors. and homicide rates are down in milwaukee and down across the country, no thanks to donald trump. but he is complaining about, like people, and he is telling people at these rallies, he said it on the last two rallies that i have seen him he's like how are you all doing out there? i don't want anything to happen to you, but i don't really need your votes, like donald trump is not making sense, but he is telling us, he is telling us that it is not all connecting for him up there. but also he doesn't want your votes, but also he is doing very well in the polls, it is crazy.
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>> it is crazy, but i think we get-- i think we have to be careful and i think we have to be careful about is that this is all part of the big set up. no matter how this thing plays out, i-- you are-- you can rest assured that, come november, if joe biden win this thing and joe biden will win soundly with the popular vote and could win very soundly with the electoral vote, that they narratives are already being set up that it was stolen, it was taken, that there is no situational circumstance under which donald trump should not win. and that is-- even despite what he is saying or i don't need your vote, it will all come back on the backside and say they stole the election. >> there's a conservative media echo chamber that said-- if you watch that all day, you would believe that donald trump is up in the polls by 50 points and there's no we could lose. >> there's no way he could lose. so that feeds in. and the clipping of the news individuals are part of that. next, director, shalanda young is here to discuss what
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in 2021, president biden and vice president harris signed into law, the juneteenth national independence they act to make juneteenth a federal holiday. this was a long time coming, thanks to tireless years of work, from leaders, like miss over lee, who is considered the grandmother of juneteenth. now in its fourth year, the biden administration is marking juneteenth with several events, including this week's concert on the white house lawn. joining us now is director of the united states budget, shalonda young. >> director, thank you so much for joining us this morning. there's two things, a commemoration in celebration of juneteenth this upcoming week which is, michael detailed the history. and then there is, separate from that, with this administration is doing for black americans. and you have the vice president, with d.o. huguely talking about what is at stake for black voters and i
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want to play that and have you respond to what he is saying. >> every thing is at stake, think about it. we brought down black unemployment, it's the lowest it's ever been. we increased housing, a lot more to do. you know, how many black persons you know or white persons that you know that have diabetes and need insulin? they are paying $400 a month, now they are paying more month. now they are paying 35. >> president biden on daily huguely's radio show i have been up too early. there are folks that would say juneteenth is great, lovely, celebration of a white house, love it, but what is this administration doing for black people? what you say to those folks? >> is it assenting, it is going to celebrate, we should always take a moment, acknowledge, i think we should all be proud that the president is working with bipartisan members and got this recognition, i am from louisiana, i always grew up hearing the stories next-door about what led us to juneteenth, but it is about
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doing what is best for the american people, so, we celebrate for a day, we remember for a day, and that reminds us and invigorates us to get up and do work for the american people, try to bring programs. my job, i get to look at investments, what investments get to people who have historically been left behind, often people like the ones i grew up with, not just the first black person who is in the budget office, but i also grew up in a town of less than 2000 in south louisiana. that perspective should mean something. so i certainly hope every day i get there, i bring that perspective for regular folks, because my family wont forget i am a regular person and they let me know what we are doing right and what we are doing wrong. so we celebrate and then we take a moment that day and reinvigorate. we get up every day to make sure investments get to people, especially those who have historically been left behind, but this is about democracy. you listen to this president and he puts it in the terms of-
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- and people don't trust their government. if we don't remind people that we are there for their best interest, this little experiment called democracy, that also helps the road, so i think about that in that context. he reminds us what the stakes are if we don't do our job well. >> madam director i want to keep on what you said, because you are absolutely right, for working families, black families and other-- you know, communities that have been disadvantaged, economically and socially and politically, looking to this administration there are really good signs, not just science, but actual data of success you look at for example. the funding for black communities in the budget coming up in 2025 including maternal health, advancing equity, subsidized tuitions, from hbcus students. there's a very clear, you know,
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focus, by the administration, on those communities that are often left behind, those working families, those minority communities. how come it is not translating? how come they are not getting that peace and that experience that you just talked about, that this administration is actually there fighting for them, that they see that? you have the list of good achievements from, you know, job creation, etc., what is the translation problem? >> you are right, it is a fail. also, i think i missed the mark if i try to show people how to feel. i think people-- prices are too high. if we don't acknowledge that there are some things, some real pocketbook issues that are still front of mind for people, we have missed the mark. yes, this president has added 15 million jobs, more than any other president in a three-year period, yes, we saw in 2023, the lowest black unemployment
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on record. guess, inflation is coming down by 60%, but we have more to do. now, on that front i worked in congress for 15 years almost. the president has done what he can come himself and with the help of democrats in congress, passing cap on insulin for $35 for example, but we have to take it a step forward. congress has to be a party with us. if you cannot bring down costs, what is-- why want you partner with the president and his budget says, hey, maybe family shouldn't go broke paying for affordable childcare. maybe we should have a universal pre-k. maybe we should invest in headstart. that is not just good for children and families, that lets women and men get back fully into the workforce, that make sure you are paying only 7% of your income. if you take a power childcare proposal up on child care, otherwise what are families doing? they are not allowed to fully bring to the economy, they drop their kids off in places that
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they don't feel comfortable in. so, we are doing all we can with the tools we have, but we need a congress who is willing to, not just say this costs too much, work with us, we put proposals for it, if you would like insulin capped at $35, if you are on medicare, let's work to do that in the private sector, his budget asks, will you do that? not just talk about it, but do something. >> there is something about a misnomer of the way we talked about all these issues, as if there are black issues and latino issues, because there are, there are challenges that affect each community, but something like bringing down or improving maternal health, that makes life better for all americans right? having greater access to higher education, even if resources are going to one specific group that changes the pool of employees for businesses across this country. sometimes i think when we talk about these things that are targeted and need to be targeted, part of what gets lost is it doesn't just benefit
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that community, because we live in community with one another. >> you know what has just shocked me? things we used to work on about artisan basis, equity, diversity. when did that become controversial? i told you, i'm from a small town, rural town. doesn't matter if you are black, white, it is hard, it is hard coming, you know, i tell my friends from the city, you think it is hard when you don't have a large income to make it in the city, go to where i am from and see how hard it is if you are given opportunities, especially in education. those affect everybody. when we talk about equity it is helping rural folks. it is helping those disproportionately behind, if we all do better, it is not taking anything from anybody, it is trying to make sure that all americans have access. it is about this little experiment, called democracy, and people lose faith in their government if we aren't seeing investment in communities that don't feel a part of the american dream and give people opportunity to make sure their
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kids, like my 2 1/2-year-old, have a better life. we are not doing hours jobs. >> the united states office of budget management, shalanda young, thank you. we hope you come back to the table. >> this was fun.'s back come back to the table, yeah. >> you want the 2-year-old to come? >> yes! that will do it for us for the weekend, we will see you back here tomorrow, joined by democratic candidate, angela alsobrook against her candidate , larry hogan. that starts right after a very quick break from our guest host , melissa, she was up early. you. of soi
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