democrats are finally confronting the far right plan. congresswoman judy hsu for project 2025 is here. plus, trumpet detroit trying to court black voters using tone deaf ramblings and racist talking points. 's decision to release an album entirely inspired by the war in gaza. let's do it. the far right has a vision board for a second trumpet term. on it, a disturbing step to overhaul how the united states

government functions. division has a name that you probably heard at this point. project 2025, and they are detailed in a monstrous 900 page book title mandate for leadership, a conservative promise. it was published by the conservative heritage foundation. christianity would be at the center of u.s. government and society by turning a biblical worldview into federal law. a national abortion ban could also be enforced by restating the comstock act to eliminate access, track, and eliminate medication for abortion. it would be harsher than ever before and executive authority would be used deport as many people as possible by expanding a deportation process called expedited removal to cover the entire country. don't forget a plan to overhaul the doj and re-created in trump's image. tens of thousands to be written

placed in an effort to do away with what he has dubbed, the deep state. in fact, steve bannon echoed that very part of the plan at this week's far right turning point usa conference just this weekend yesterday. >> we are also going to start the pick and shovel work to take apart the administrative state, the praetorian guard, the deep state where the use the rule of law to come after you and hold you accountable. november 5th is judgment day. january 2025 is accountability day. >> you would think this dangerous of a plan, as big of a threat to our democracy, would have democrats shouting from the rooftops, warning americans of its very real implications. but there hasn't been much of a

coordinated action plan to prevent the agenda from taking hold until now. this week, house democrats launched a task force. it is being led by democratic congressman jared hoffman and includes about half a dozen lawmakers. he said, quote, we need to see it coming well in advance and compare ourselves accordingly. one could argue we are on the verge of too late here. we have known about the full scope of project 2025 since way back in april of last year. but better late than never, right? according to the associated press, this is what we know about the plan so far. hold a forum on capitol hill and inform voters about its dangerous ideas and policy proposals. so democrats say they are getting on the offensive and stepping up to the plate to fight this unprecedented far right playbook. but we are halfway through june, less than five months away from the election, that

will determine whether project 2025 sees the light of day. we know the architects. peter navarro, ben carson are serious about getting mr. kony and plan off the ground. the question is, are democrat serious enough about stopping it? judy hsu of california is a member of the congressional task force to counter project 2025. thank you so much for making time. what motivated you and some of your colleagues to start this task force now? >> i think now is the first perfect time to do this task force. they are people in the united states that are not focused on the presidential election. they are only now thinking about biden versus trump, and what we want to do is to make sure that people know what the united states would look like if donald trump were in fact elected as president. project 2025 leaves nothing to

the imagination as far as what this road map would be like. he would see supreme power. he would greatly expand and centralize his power, he would reduce the oversight of congress. there would be no balance. he would immediately fire 50,000 federal civilian employees, and replace them with applicants who have to pass a test of loyalty to trump to ensure that christian nationalism is embedded in every federal agency. and then he would eliminate the wall between him and the department of justice so that he could use them for legal retribution against whomever trump decides to investigate. >> i wanted to talk about some concrete actions here. there's been talk of forums and forming the voters out of election day, trying to break federal lawmakers. what will that look like in real terms? is this fighting fire with fire?

is this what project 2025 supporters are trying to do? >> yes. it is a very long document. 900 pages. there's quite a bit of detail on what they would do with every federal department. we need to break it down, and be able to educate our colleagues, for one thing, but also everybody across the united states as to what they want to do. and we -- we are at the perfect time to do this, when people are getting now to the realization that, yeah, it could be a trump america. and if so, then we would see reproductive rights, lgbt rights removed. we would see a rescinding of all actions on climate change. we would see a deportation of so many, and elimination of the department of education as well as a replacing of secular public

education with christian education in schools. we would see un-american that we never could've imagined under trump and we need to raise the alarm bells. >> congresswoman, is there anything that can be done legislatively to prevent some of the project 2025 policy these are could have been done the last couple of years? i know it only came to light about a year ago, and certainly, republicans control the house. but other enough republicans now to get on board with some of these issues that could have shored up our democracy in the last year or so before the election? >> well, we just went through the national defense authorization act. it was voted on this past week, and many of these kind of culture war amendments were similar to this. similar to what is in project 2025. and yet, all the republicans

voted for them. it was alarming and it was sickening, actually. i hope that all of those will be stripped out when they go to a conference committee. but i don't have much hope for republicans actually standing up to donald trump and this project 2025. >> how about just standing up to do the right thing, even if that wasn't something to do with donald trump? congresswoman judy hsu of california. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> i want to bring into the conversation my panel now. democratic strategist and former obama campaign adviser, msnbc political analyst, and james mcdonald, distinguished professor at princeton university. jared hoffman, the congressman leading it, that project 2025 would hit, quote, like a

blitzkrieg. do you think the approach they are taking is enough to fight this opposing blitzkrieg on our country? >> it is a rightful and much- needed approach, but there also needs to be more understanding by the american product public. i know that we talked about it on the show before and we saw a few others carry it as well. however, the majority of voters don't know what that is. i think there has to be a lot more concerned around outcomes of what project 2025 could look like, but also full-scale approaches at this point. equity base groups, obviously congressional hearings. but paying attention to what this could mean for the erosion our democracy as we know it. because we talked about trump fashioning himself out dictators. we talked about trump taking cues from mein kampf. this is a radical and very quite frankly upsetting move that the republicans want to take america down with the full support of former president trump, with a written copy from the heritage foundation which has already passed along a lot

of what they passed around this country to restrict rights and access. this is then going full-scale and eroding our democracy. >> i may have just lost our connection. we are trying to get that back. professor, your thoughts as well? part of this effort from democrats was to inform voters. it is safe to say -- i certainly believe that, we think the voters are not aware project 2025 in the alarming way that they should be. the congresswoman says we are still a few months out and they want to do their best to raise awareness. if they do become more aware, how much more of an influence will they have? will people to get seriously? >> i hope they will. i it's important for us to understand the scope and nature of the threat to american democracy. donald trump had no ideological core. but what we see with project

2025 is a kind of ideological coherence and attempt to generate some kind of consensus across the republican party with how they would govern. this is not something new. we saw the mandate for leadership in 1979 and how it guided the reagan revolution in this regard. we need to understand its implications for the way in which he will govern, and also for us understanding that it's not just donald trump. it's the republican party at south. >> in previous attempts, those were ideological policy platforms, if you will. this is a fundamental remaking of america. what do you think the democrats strategy should be when it comes to this moment? i feel like over the last three years -- this is not to be critical of democrats -- and opportunities they could've had to shore up parts of our democracy, they weren't able to do that. heart of that objection is from republicans in the senate as well, but not enough done in the last four years to shore up

our democracy. >> i am going to take this moment to be critical of democrats, because i feel this happens every four years. this is more than just donald trump. this is republican led state legislatures. this is republican attorney generals. we have to be very serious about our democracy being at stake and what that means, because they will not just stop at donald trump. donald trump loses in november, they will still push forward and look for their next viewer to make it happen. i think that we have to be very attentive to that and democrats have to not only focus on the four-year presidential. they have to focus on what's happening in the states as well, because republicans are eyeing erosion of democracy and authoritarian regimes and they been doing it for some time. they did come up with the document overnight for the trump presidency. this is something they have been working on for decades, and i think at this point, we have to take it seriously and

the democratic party has to take it seriously. not just of the federal level, but also in states across the country. >> if we thought we were dodging a bullet by not electing donald trump in 2020, we now sees coming back with a vengeance and we are seeing the extreme right in this country using him as a vehicle to really transform this country. if it's not with him, they will find somebody else to do it, right? >> absolutely. remember, we want to understand the nature of this public particular threat at the foundations of our democracy. but wiggin was rightly characterized in the 1970s as somebody would bring about world war iii. his economic facility was considered voodoo economics. and remember, he change the fundamental foundation of american political life. jane the very framework of our politics for 50 years. so this is not simply a one-off gesture just to support donald trump's presidency.

this is an attempt to change the very framework of the game. let me say this. it's not enough to heighten fears. the democrats have to put forward a positive agenda. not just simply a critique of project 2025, but what is their vision for 2025? are we going to simply regurgitate the new deal? what is the democratic party's counter to this 900 page document aimed at undermining democracy? you have to do both, it seems to me. >> such an important point to offer a vision. please stick around. we have a lot more to discuss with you. tomorrow, dr. anthony fauci will sit down with my colleague, rachel maddow. he will discuss new details about working in the trump white house and what it for faculty to remain any number one to many republicans. be sure to watch the rate up maddow show tomorrow right here on msnbc. after the break, we have to talk about trump's wild pitch at a church in detroit, and the crowd in attendance. crowd in a.

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>> look, the crime is most rampant right here in african- american communities, and more people see me and they say, sir, we want protection. we don't want to get robbed and mugged and beat up or killed because we want to walk across the street to buy a loaf of bread. but the black population wants law enforcement or than any other population. >> donald trump actually said that yesterday at a black church in detroit. most people who showed up to the event were actually not black. that's probably why the ex- president's depiction of black communities as dangerous and crime-ridden prompted cheers from the audience. critics are now accusing trump a filling a historically black church with white supporters and even staging the event to show a robust crowd.

false claims of rampant crime rates is no surprise and not rooted in reality. in fact, new fbi statistics point to a historic drop in crime in the first quarter of this year. community leaders are now calling out trump about how transparent his intentions are. detroit pastor james perkins said, quote, the reality is, he doesn't care. every time trump opens his mouth to talk to black folks, he demonizes us and makes empty promises he will never keep. amisha and eddie are back. professor, i will start with you and trump's approach to yesterday's event in detroit. the points he is making in an attempt to do what he describes as connecting with black voters and appealing to black voters in these, what i would argue, racist tropes. >> what is so fascinating is that you know he is gas lighting us. you know he doesn't really believe or care, believe in or

care about black communities. there was something strikingly familiar about his rhetoric. you know, there is this appeal in black communities for safety. we saw it in the call for law and order in the '80s and '90s. out of the mouth of eric adams, the mayor of new york. there is a sense in which this appeal, to save people, he comes the justification for coney and laws that have devastated our community. james forman jr., a professor of law at yale university, wrote a book in 2017 entitled, locking up our own. where our desire for safety initially led us to embrace policy. so what trump is doing in a very clumsy way is trying to appeal to that very sensibility. but he can't do it in an effective way, because he doesn't really believe it. he doesn't really have any concern for the black community. i also want us to understand

the nature of the appeal, as i hear the same thing coming out of eric adams mouth. >> what you think the strategy behind this event was? do you think they thought it would work the same way trump trying to sell sneakers or selling his mug shot on a teacher would appeal to black voters because he tries to project that, you know, they like that kind of stuff? >> i don't think trump is worried about this rocking. quite frankly, donald trump sees avenues where he doesn't need the black vote to even be competitive. we are watching him push and have these conversations where he has gotten people in, the overwhelming majority not being black. where white people are the predominant -- the predominant people there. we are also watching him attack black people at every corner, whether it is agreeing with comments and stating himself

negative things about graduates, wanting to reduce funding for black owns all businesses, wanting to ensure that there are more and heavier crime tax six that were visible those what we fought against just a few years ago in terms of use of excessive force. this is not someone who stands by and wants to protect black people and wants to see black access and communities. he is also doing all of these things, meanwhile, and in the same time supporting turning point usa, where he was today, where we have a valid white supremacist nick went has speaking. were you have guys like charlie kirk, who lead that organization, who said the black people are smaller planes. it was argued that we do not need to be doctors, because of black people become doctors, people die. this is a guy who is a known racist and whose propagated racism and policy after policy.

it does not compute. donald trump doesn't care about black people. what he cares about is running the media in circles, and he does that well. >> he certainly does. let me play for you both this moment during trump's remarks yesterday. watch. >> your biggest threat are the illegals. we have threats as to security because so many of them come from prisons and jails, from mental institutions, and even insane asylum's. the first community -- this is open knowledge that is being very effective is the black community, because they are taking your jobs. >> professor, it's a classic divide and conquer. what you make of this apparent attempt to pin black supporters against immigrants? >> well, i can't say what i really feel. it angers me, but it is an appeal to kind of nativist impulses within black community. it will appeal to this idea

that the country has failed to actually live up to its promise in relation to black folk, and now it's putting its thumb on the scale for immigrant populations. so it's actually an appeal to the ugly underbelly of communities. we have to understand that that may have some traction for some people. but in the end, it reveals, to my mind, the ugliness that drives trump's campaigns. he is always appealing to people's lesser angels. and in this case, he's doing it in black communities as we struggle with our own economic issues. it is just his playbook, and it's disgusting, and it reveals his character at its core. >> i would certainly hope we don't fall for it is a country come this election. thank you to the both of you. greatly appreciate your time and insight. why advocates are cautiously celebrating a win for trans right in florida.

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a federal judge says that florida went too far when banning gender affirming care for transgender minors. he called the law unconstitutional and barred transgender minors from being prescribed puberty blockers and hormonal treatments even with their parents permission. they required transgender adults to only receive treatment from a doctor and not from a registered nurse or other qualified medical practitioners and also banned trans adults from seeking online treatment. the law was tailor-made to hate . in his opinion, he said, quote, some invoke religion to support their position, some is once invoked religion to support their racism or misogyny. transgender proponents are free to hold their beliefs, but they are not free to discriminate against transgender individuals just for being transgender.

it is clearly a win for the community, but advocates and allies are wary, and for good reason. just look at the sheer amount of anti-lgbt bills the aclu has been tracking across this country. a whopping 522 just this year alone. there have been 42 anti-trans bills passed by legislators, and 37 have already been signed into law. with me now, aclu deputy director for transgender justice. he is also a staff attorney. not to discount this win. it is certainly an important win, but as that judge was saying there, basically saying the motivation behind the florida ban is anti-transgender animus. how does this win, if at all, help reinvigorate the nationwide fight for equality? >> we are happy to celebrate the win. but as you know, we are facing an uphill battle in the

legislatures, in the courts, and at the executive level in states across the country. it is an all-out assault on trans life. what we are seeing is a map of this country were, in 2020, there were zero states that banned gender affirming medical care. is now 24 states. and though this win is a breath of fresh air, the reality is that when anyone looks at the actual evidence, and not just the reflexive dislike of transgender people, these laws are struck down. the problem is, is that we have political actors who are acting out of a desire to create this widespread attack on trans people, and that is what is driving this. >> we were talking about this in the commercial break before, and that was about what a second term might look like, especially when it comes to lgbtq issues. we've been focusing on that over the course of these past two hours. two things that could happen if donald trump is re-elected. the care and medicaid funding

could be terminated for hospitals that provide gender affirming care to trans youth, and there could be an attempt to charge teachers with discrimination for affirming and gender identities. how do you even begin to prepare for the challenges that may lie ahead to the lgbtq community of trump's wins a second term? >> i that we need to be raising every single alarm. it is truly those things that we couldn't anticipate ways in which we see our legal rights rolled back, in which we would not have the robust federal reinforcement of robust that she is. that would not happen. i think we can look to project 2025 for this, trans life being deemed criminal. we are seeing the rhetoric escalating now in the states were trans people, myself, for example, being called groomers just for advocating for our communities. if you cast individuals as an ideological force, and then

cast that ideology is criminal, it empowers the government to punish that group of people. i think not only are we going to see those types of erosions of our rights, we are going to see a wholesale assault on our ability to move freely in the world. >> there are two things that are at play here. i want to get a sense if you are optimistic as not. there are 500 anti-lgbt bills that the aclu has tracked. however, the human rights campaign notes that there's actually been a downtick in the number of bills passed this year compared to last year. is that as a result of better organization to be able to fight those bills across the legislators? does that give you a sense of optimism or hope that these measures are creating a counterforce that may be a net positive in the long run? >> two things. the first is that we are organized, we are bringing our resistance, we are showing up in state legislatures across the country and defeating bills. legislatures passed a lot of the bills that they wanted to pass targeting trans people and are winning in court and

focusing on the litigation that is moving up to the federal courts, moving up to the state courts. ultimately, they've had a lot of success. they are codifying that success in the litigation, so i wouldn't say that i feel anyway at ease, given that we are facing this assault in every branch of government. >> you wrote in an op-ed, you talk about your own personal journey as a transgender man. you write, quote, it might be harder to credit the ongoing attacks if we were the ones allowed to tell the story of our lives and bodies. just expand on that and what you mean by that. how can we used the voices of trans americans. >> i think we just have to be open to listening. at the core of so many of these bills is the belief and the fear that turning into a trans adult is a bad outcome for someone, that we don't want trans kids to turn into trans adults, is trans adults don't live long and happy lives.

i believe that my life is a reputation of that, and we want to hear from trans people. >> how do you fight that phobia that exists? it's one thing to fight it in the legislatures, that all people have equal rights in this country, but at the same time, you are dealing with the cultural fear that people have against the community. >> i'm not sure everyone agrees that we should have equal rights, but yes. >> in theory, we believe we should all have equal rights. >> whether or not people actually believe and that is a separate question, but we need to push out narratives and also refute and challenge that in everything that we do. >> thank you so much. i really appreciate your time. up next, activism through art. have the movement for palestinian rights is resonating in the hip-hop world and beyond. and beyond. -here, i'll take th. woo hoo! ensure max protein, 30 grams protein, 1 gram sugar, 25 vitamins and minerals.

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role of truth teller has often fallen on the shoulders of artists, musicians, and in particular, finding a way to cut through the noise, mobilize the public, and counter program government and mass media. during the vietnam war, you had bob dylan, harry belafonte, pete seeger, melody inc. their music with their morals. they created beautiful music that counter the mainstream narrative, and that certainly took a lot of courage. the vietnam war wasn't always unpopular, despite the mythology that has emerged about that era, those protesting the war were not popular at the time. but they were, however, right. we have seen this kind of artistic response to injustice happening time and time again. hip-hop artist sounded the alarm on police violence and racism in black neighborhoods. for public enemy to nwa, queen latifah, even tupac, their

message reached the masses in a way others couldn't. they forced conversations about what black americans were going through into the mainstream and often gave white americans their first education about what was actually happening in black america. and we are living in one of these moments again right now. the past eight months, a new movement in music has emerged. palestinian artists and artists of all races and backgrounds are moved by what they are seeing unfold in gaza and are making their voices heard. at the forefront of recent music . he spoke at the coachella music festival in april. >> i was born in jerusalem. as i hope all of you are aware, the people of gaza have been undergoing a genocide the past six months. the people of palestine have

been undergoing a brutal subversion for the past several years. >> the singer made her tv debut on the late show with stephen colbert. she was born in nazareth and is of palestinian chilean dissent. she wore a headscarf during one of her songs. it's not just palestinian or arab musicians that are speaking out. the hit r&b singer khemlani and a troupe of dancers wearing them on their shoulders danced in front of palestinian flags. she raised more than half $1 million for gaza and the congo from proceeds of that single. and this was probably the most viral at all of these new songs. songs.

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we are keeping the conversation going about this moment that we are in, activism through art and how the movement for palestinian rights is exploding in the music world right now. grammy nominated rapper belly was born in the palestinian city in the occupied west bank. his family relocated to canada when he was 7. he dropped a

surprise album called 96 miles to bethlehem that directly addresses israel's war on gaza. listen. listen. earlier, i spoke with belly. and belly joins me now. it's great to have you on the show. thank you so much for making time for us. it has obviously been a gruesome eight months for palestinians and people around the world to of been watching this, and that is on top of displacement, occupation, 76 years after the knock but. you describe what israel has been doing as extermination. however you and your family been coping throughout all of this? >> i mean, this is ongoing for a long time. palestinians have

had to deal with the trauma of this for a long time, and, you know, it is really, like -- it is just a tragedy to all people that experience it from all around the world, but the real tragedy is what palestinians go through on the ground in occupied territories every single day, just trying to go about everyday life. >> let me ask you about your music for a moment. who is the intended audience for your music? are you making the music to help yourself cope personally, or to inspire and assure other palestinians around the world, or is it to educate and change the minds of a wider audience? >> it's a little bit of a mixture, i make music because it is therapeutic to me. but something like this, i feel like i make a project like this for anybody that needs to hear

it on either side of the coin. anybody that needs to be convinced, or anybody that needs to know that the things they feel, you know, are not isolated. a lot of us feel the same way. and i wanted to express that through our music. i also wanted to express the beauty of palestine through the music and the beauty of the culture and the music. it was really just my way of expressing myself towards my people and my country with a project. >> is it hard to make music in an environment like this right now, if you have any, you know, qualms about it, or do you have a lack of inspiration when you see your people suffering so much? >> i mean, it is hard. again, it goes back and forth, because you want to say so much, but i think there is no words that could ever describe how people feel in palestine,

you know, every single day. and something like this happens and it's like, how do you put that into words? i do my best to try to put it into perspective, i always feel like i am falling short, because there's no real way to describe it and, you know, in language, what everybody is going through on the ground in gaza and the west bank. you know, i just tried to do my best to get people perspective, you know? >> there's been so much solidarity and support for palestinians in so many of these protests around the world, but there's also been so much hate, so much dehumanization of palestinians. we see that sometimes from all walks of life, even sometimes from the highest levels of government. you are a public face and representative of palestinian people. how hard is it being a palestinian performer right

now? are you facing any backlash in your work, in your art? >> yeah, absolutely. i feel like my reach, every time something like this happens, i feel like i get muted, especially nowadays, were a lot of success, or at least what people tied to success has to do with social media. you know, i feel muted, i feel like my reach is gone. i think it's the same for a lot of palestinian artists and creators, but also, artist and creators that are just trying to be on our side. they are definitely getting muted all the time. it's definitely frustrating. you know what i mean? but that's why i like to -- i like to depend on the people more than anything, you know what i mean? i don't depend on government, i don't depend on these multibillion-dollar platforms, you know, that all have, you know, a potential to reach, and

every year, they got to grow and get bigger. off our backs, you know what i mean? at the end of the day, i don't depend on them. i depend on the people and word- of-mouth. i believe in humanity still. but again, it has been frustrating, definitely. >> are you feeling any pressure to stop talking about gaza? we have covered a lot on this show, a lot of the censorship that takes place around talking about gaza, whether it's in hollywood or academia or even in other forms. but do you find there is pressure on you to not talk about gaza, to not speak up on behalf of palestinians? >> yeah. i think that pressures felt by a lot of people, and that is saying something. i think it is saying something. if there is actually a question if this is happening, then how come when i was making this project -- a lot of the people

that i know through the industry were like, you are brave for doing this. how my brave for highlighting something, especially from a place where i'm from, and a place where atrocities are taking place, where humans aren't treated like humans? and i making a project about it. you know, there's nothing courageous about that. that's what i should do. just to hear the response from people really shows me the underlying problems that we all know. we all know, right? behind the scenes, he will tell you, hey, don't do it, or be careful. the only reason that even exists behind the scenes is because people know. they know what it is. >> do you feel that there's a double standard? it's not just palestinians or arab musicians that are speaking out on palestine and what's happening in gaza. you seen all walks of life, musicians like macklemore and others, it really feels like we

are in a moment where there is a new generation of artists trying to do something similar to what was happening during the vietnam war in this country. do you feel like this is a big moment, that there is an actual transformational change, or will this just be a small drop in the bucket, if you will? >> no, i feel like there is something bigger going on. i think for the first time, we are watching a global movement, you know, grow past just, you know, protests for a couple of weeks, and then the media stops covering it, or whatever happens, to make people forget about the suffering of palestinians. as palestinians, we have experienced it for as long as we've been alive, most of us. you know, i feel like now, we are watching -- we are watching a movement to take place that is bigger than just, you know, planning.

it's bigger than all that. is actually us coming together as people from all walks of life and saying there's something wrong going on over here. we as people have got to fix this and stop whoever is posing this, and we have to rectify what happened to the palestinian people. and there has to be a right of return for palestinians that were kicked out of the country illegally. you know, there has to be restitution for palestinians because of what is happened, and i think a lot of people are starting to see the amount of suffering that palestinians have gone through the last 75 years. >> is a suffering that continues even until this day as we are seeing in gaza in real time. grammy award-winning producer and artist belly. thank you so much for your time. really appreciate you making time for us. >> thank you so much for having me. >> and thank you for making time for us this weekend.

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