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welcome back to the weekend. editorial boards in two battleground states are weighing in on the future of the 2024 race. the atlanta journal- constitution argues, "it is time for biden to pass the torch." but the philadelphia inquirer said that it is donald trump who should quit. quote "the sooner trump exits
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the stage, the better off the country will be." and president biden said he will stay. nbc news has learned he is expected to discuss his campaign's future with family members at camp david today. the trip was planned before the debate and sources tell nbc news, and it is ■çnot a formal discussion. house democratic leader hakeem jeffries, it is a great pleasure to welcome you. >> thank you for being here. >> thank you for getting up with us. leader jeffries, i want to start by asking you about this headline in the new republic that reads that hakeem jeffries opened the door to replacing biden. that you did not answer directly when asked whether president biden was the democratic party's best messenger. i noticed you posted on social media saturday, it is nothing more than a set up for a come back vote. would you like to respond to
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this assertion that you may have opened the door? where are you? make it plain for folks please. >> thank you for asking the question. i ■çthink it was in necessarily on sensational headline. i have been very clear it was underwhelming performance thursday during the debate as president biden and his campaign have acknowledged. it certainly was a setback. but of course i believe that a setback is nothing more than a set up for come back and the reality is that joe biden has confronted and had to come back from tragedy, from trials, from tribulations, throughout his entire life. the moment we are in right now is a come back moment and it will require all of us to lean in, articulate a forward- looking message as to why the democratic platform is best equipped to deal with the challenges facing the americcn@■ people, beginning with making sure that every single person
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in the country has economic opportunity and the ability to experience the american dream. >> leader jeffries, we talked about members of the concord caucus who have been speaking in the press in the background about their questions about president biden's candidacy. what you say to members of your own caucus expressing this concern? >> we are in the process of having conversations with various parts of the house democratic caucus. that is ongoing and that will continue. we are in recess next week for the 4th of july holiday. so we will have to have those conversations over the phone and virtually. and we will continue to do that. one thing should be clear. there is a ■çbig difference between our view of the world, the country in the future and the extreme maga republican view. we know that president biden is
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a good man and an honorable man and a hard-working family man. we are running against a con man who lied his way through the entire debate on thursday. lied about covid. lied about the economy. lied about roe v wade. lied about january 6th. light about prescription drug pricing. lied about veterans. it was extraordinary pick this is a dangerous moment that we confront. it is an all hands on deck moment. /■ we have to lean in and articulate that clear contrast on the economy and on democracy and on reproductive freedom. that is the mission in front of us over the next few days and the next few weeks. >> ■ç speaker, i want to shift gears. >> you called him speaker. look at you forecasting. >> where did that come from? >> leader jeffries, i want to shift gears a little bit and talk a little bit about the chevron ruling this past week were basically, you had justice
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kagan in her opinion note that the court is seizing power for itself and federal agencies were now the court will be the arbiter of what works, does it work? what the regulations should say or not say. how are you assessing that ruling in light of congressional power? this really is, in many respects, a poll to the court where the court will decide what the epa rules should be or what the ■çfinancial markets, h they should look. they are not experts. how does congress respond to chevron? >> the court has again demonstrated that it is part of a right wing effort to jam extreme ideology down the throats of the american people in ways that are increasingly becoming undemocratic. because as you pointed out, michael, the congress,
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particularly the house, designed as the institution closest to the people and the senate of course elected to be representatives of the american people, should have the ability to determine and set public policy outcomes that can then be interpreted or put into place by the executive branch. not unelected judges ■çwith no accountability because the constitutional fabric gives them lifetime tenure. and so i think that we are going to have to make sure that, as we proceed moving forward with consumer protections, combating the climate crisis, protecting the health and safety and economic well-being of the american people, that we proceed with the precision necessary to avoid extreme right wing judges on the federal events, misinterpreting our intentions and their by undermining our ability to look out for the american people. >> leader jeffries, along
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these lines of the supreme court, are you concerned about what they could potentially do on monday, that they have held this ■çimmunity decision about not just donald trump at the presidency at large until the end of the term? it seems to me that they have either decided that the president can be a king or queen and they just wanted to wait to tell us at the last moment, or they decided that the president is not a king or a queen and they don't want donald trump to know until the last possible moment? >> it is very concerning. i understand why there is a high degree of anxiety. this should be crystal clear. america is not a monarchy. we are not an autocracy. we don't have kings or rulers or dictators. we are a democracy. and one principal should be clear. no one is above the law. ■ç
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that includes presidents and former presidents. it certainly includes donald trump. i'm hopeful that at least five justices on the supreme court will make the right decision so that we can proceed in a manner consistent with the framers of the constitution who broke free from a monarchy to create something different. a nation anchored in the rule of law. >> leader jeffries, to get to the stakes of the upcoming election, there is a new ad from the biden/harris campaign that was released this friday and really tries to draw this contrast. take a look. >> suckers and losers. on january 6, we were respected all over the world. they are ■çtaking black jobs. three great supreme court justices on the court and they have to vote in favor of killing roe v wade. it has been a great thing. my retribution will be success.
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>> so much to choose from there, leader jeffries. but why don't we start with the concept of a black job. what does that mean to you? >> i have no idea, but we know that donald trump is the quintessential racial arsonist. he can't help himself. sometimes he tells on himself. that occurred on thursday. what i do know as well is that under the leadership of president joe biden, we have seen record job creation for the american people, including for african american women ■çan men across the board. we have seen record investment in historically black colleges and universities and hispanic serving institutions and we have seen record creation of small business and entrepreneurial opportunities. president joe biden and democrats have an expansion
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view of an economy that works for everyone and that includes the opportunity of course to be part of the middle class and to go beyond the middle class. >> how do you make that case to the american people in light of the noise around the president being pulled off the ticket? the movement that trump is claiming he has among2 constituencies that have been traditionally aligned with democrats, african american and hispanic men. for example, how do you make that case? and why do you think it hasn't landed that well with a lot of voters out there? >> i think we have to continue to talk with simplicity and consistently to the american people, to the african american community and of course to rural america, to the heartland of america. to latinos and asian americans.
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and the wonderful and gorgeous mosaic that represents the united states of america. let's take a step back for a minute. president joe biden walked into office on day one and had to ñhi deal with three different catastrophes. he had a public health catastrophe because of ■çthe covid pandemic and the horrible management of the former president. he had an economic catastrophe connected to covid and the shutdown of the economy and he had a democracy catastrophe at the same time because of the generous six insurrection and cited by donald trump. and he has been managing it incredibly well. we have to emerge from that. real progress has been made. and also acknowledge that there is a lot of work that needs to be done, particularly to lower the cost of living in the united states of america. >> leader, i would like for you to stick around. we do want to talk to about the road for democrats to turn 40 the house this november. you are watching "the weekend."
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house house republicans are laying the groundwork for funding fight. the washington post points out the gop is attempting to push through partyline legislation that aban@'s a deal struck with president biden last year on spending caps and tucked away in the fine print, controversial policy provisions. house democratic leader hakeem jeffries is back with us. >> leader, there is a lot clearly going on and the house republicans recognizing some of the writing on the wall about what the house may look like next year. certainly even in your own ranks, you had an upset this past week with jamaal bowen losing his race to county executive george lattimore. but the headlines for politico i thought was very interesting noting that party leader endorses a battled colleague and has also taken on liberal allies and other democratic
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skirmishes taking that and saying you are not that worried about the loss. how do you assess the ■çsituati with bowman? you have a democrat that likely will win the seat but what does that say to you about the changes that are occurring within your own ranks as you look to the future possibly running the house? >> at the end of election cycles, we assess what happened in different primaries and certainly in the general election and try to figure out what lessons can be learned from that. it makes sense to do that at the end of the election cycle and not take a different race here and there is a snapshot of what i will say is that congressman jamaal bowman was a tremendous advocate for racial, social and economic +ljustice, champion for public education and a champion of public housing and a real ■çimpact on shaping the science act as it
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related to making sure science, technology, engineering, and athletics and education could be brought to traditionally under resourced communities work that advocacy will be missed. we respected the decision that was made by the voters of the bronx and westchester in 2020 when jamaal bowman won. we certainly will continue to respect the decision made by voters across the country and in this particular instance, the people of the bronx and westchester of 2024 with the election of george latimer. >> leader jeffries, along those lines, i'm looking at the map for 2024. i have long said that the house, the map is favored across the board for the house of representatives ■çfor democrats. even if you look at what happened in new york with the redistricting and the maps drawn, i'm looking at the new districts that have been created in alabama and
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louisiana. i'm looking at the strength of the frontline members that have been identified by the democratic congressional campaign committee. it looks like this is an election warehouse democrats especially, and even some members who were up for reelection in the senate on the house side are running five, 10 points ahead of where the president is in their states and in the respective districts. do you feel good about house democrats and prospects for them this november and going from leader jeffries to speaker jeffries? >> in terms of our prospects, our frontline members are ■ç incredibly strong. they have delivered for districts that connected to the communities that they represent. the red and blue candidates are incredibly strong and they are out in the communities running hard and articulating a forward- looking vision and symone, we have a strong map. a map that allows us to go on offense with opportunities all across the country in new york
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and in california and in the heartland and in the battleground states and thanks to a surprisingly enlightened supreme court decision on the voting rights act, real opportunities in alabama and in louisiana. at the end of the day, we have to focus on the contrast division. we have tried ■çto govern, over the last 18 months, in a reasonable, responsible and result oriented fashion and contrast that with the chaos of dysfunction and extremism that has consistently come from the other side of the aisle. we have a vision of lowering housing costs and ending price gouging and growing the middle class. we can contrast that with the extreme maga republicans who simply want another big tax cut for the well-off and the well- connected and big donors. we believe we can make the case that house democrats in
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partnership with president biden, vice president harris, senate democrats are best positioned to deliver for the well-being economic part and protect freedom and democracies. >> let's talk about how that shows up in this ■çgop spending bill. this is part of the wish list. labor, education, health and human services cuts. $600 million to erect a league wall along the southern border. we know how that went last time. and military members being able to travel for reproductive healthcare and drag queen activities. these are not serious people. leader jeffries. >> these are very unserious people. and being run by individuals like marjorie taylor green. she continues to drive the agenda. it is one of the only ways that you can reasonably explain the extreme nature of the spending bills that are highly partisan and that house republicans are putting on the floor of the
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people's house. as mentioned earlier, we reached ■çan agreement in may o last year and connected the bipartisan fiscal responsibility act. house republicans have walked away from that agreement at the moment. they want to march toward a government shutdown. they want to cut $75 billion out of nondefense discretionary spending that will hurt working families and hurt the middle class and hurt the seniors. and certainly her children and veterans, particularly when it comes to nutritional assistance, educational opportunities and healthcare. the budget framework is a disaster. we will point that out over the next few weeks and the next few months and make sure the clear contrast is drawn for the american people. we will continue to put people over politics as has democrats. >> thank you so ■çmuch for the
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♪♪ for the love of moving our clients forward. for the love of progress. the supreme the supreme court ruled in favor of doctors performing emergency abortions in idaho. did they? it is despite a law criminalizing the decision procedure. the five reproductive rights across the country is far from over pick the latest example in iowa over the state supreme court just upheld a six week abortion ban for joining us now is that voice of all and our msnbc legal analyst, melissa murray and my travel buddy for later today. and i just note that as i was ■ç
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saying, melissa, even myself, i was skeptical. and you break it down? what did the supreme court weigh and on, melissa? >> i was also skeptical, symone. let me be clear for the viewers. the supreme court merely differ decision-making on these crucial questions, whether a federal law and labor acts can preempt the state law that prohibits abortions even in cases of emergencies. the court decided here that they had accepted the case for review and so they kicked it out on jurisdictional grounds but that just means that they can come back to it at a later date. i don't want to be too conspiratorial here but i think one of the reasons why the court may have decided after five months of having the case 9 was granted, is because it realizes that abortion is a galvanizing electoral issue and women are going to be going to the polls in november and they don't want the supreme court to be part of their calculus. the court decided to get out of
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the way and put this on the side burner. but they will definitely come back to it after the selection. there is already another conflict between the federal law and a texas abortion ban that is already stewing. this will come back. it is not a victory for women who need emergency abortion care it is only a victory for this court. >> i think that is a very important point. the court just said, we don't want to get involved in the politics of abortion. the last time we did, it all blew up in our face. but the law is still the lie. in other words, we know where ■ç the trend is going and we got a really interesting since of that i think in the presidential debate when talking, when the candidates are talking about the future of abortion. take a listen. >> put it back to the states and the country is coming together on this issue. it has been a great thing.
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>> thank you. president biden. >> it has been a terrible thing what you have done. the fact is that the vast majority of scholars supported roe v wade when it was decided. and this idea that they are all against it is just ridiculous. >> the other part of this that i thought was interesting in this debate was the extremism of language that the republicans have created. ■ç and i want to quote really quick what donald trump at one point said so that joe biden can take the life of the baby in the ninth month. nobody wants that to happen. democrats or republicans. nobody wants that to happen. republicans have been very successful putting up this narrative that democrats want to kill babies in the ninth month and as he said at one point, the babies are born and set aside and we will deal with the baby later. how has that language and that rhetoric been able to stay out there and survive as long as it has in the face of women
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telling true life stories and yet you still have a number of americans believing democrats are about killing babies in the ninth month. donald trump, just so you know ñ you take the baby out of the room and set it aside and kill!ç it and that is called murder and that is not what people are doing. >> i would push back a little bit and say, most americans understand that it is a lie. most americans understand what donald trump says is inflammatory disinformation and it is so wild and crazy and they can't believe it. folks are used to donald trump saying wild and crazy things and shrugging it off. they don't take him seriously. you are right. the gop has been pushing that disinformation. >> that was a fastening segment. he absolutely says that. it is something they have tried to legislate. the majority of abortion happens early in pregnancy. that does not mean however, to your point, some of these true life stories of women having sex and almost dying, that we
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need abortion access later in pregnancy for many reasons. ■ç what donald trump did was created, really inflaming the stigma against abortion patients and providers. when you peddle that kind of extreme information, you are putting people's lives that risk and it is unconscionable. going back to the debate on the case in idaho. i want to say this to piggyback off of melissa's comments. what is happening now, the trump administration and it is in the document that your friend from the heritage foundation laid out, they have a plan to rescind. they have a plan to withdraw authorization of medication abortion. so when the court pumps these decisions on technicalities, they have opened the door for a trump admin to come in and take it all back. >> what you guys missed, because melissa came ■çin hot this morning. she said i know we are talking about abortion but we have to talk about this. and that is not your general
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energy. so let's talk about this. i think we have talked about a bunch of different things. talk to me about how chevron relates to what we are seeing out of idaho and relates to what we are watching for monday. >> i want to underscore that we have had this conservative super majority for about four years. in the last three terms, this united states supreme court has overruled one major precedent in each term. it was dobbs in 2022 overruling roe v wade. last year, overruling gruden versus belanger which upheld the limited use of race conscious admissions policy. and this year, we have this case overruling the ■çchevron doctrine. most viewers won't understand what the chevron doctor is or how it relates to it it's life but this is basically the foundation of government as we know it. all the relations we have for clean air and clean water and consumer safety and protecting the financial markets, this
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comes through administered agencies. in 1984, a court unanimously held circumstances for statutory text is ambiguous and the court should defer to the agency which has expertise and can interpret what congress wanted to do and implement it. in this case just decided friday, the court overruled the chevron deference doctrine and said now, rather than having agencies equipped with expertise to interpret the statutes and charged with administering, courts will do it. and it is not a surprise that they want the courts to do it. courts that have been stopped with movement conservatives by the trump administration. this disdain for expertise, this antipathy for regulation, this is the maga united states judiciary. >> melissa, you are a clerk for justice sonia sotomayor. can you tell us, when the supreme court releases decisions, are they strategically doing so?
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is not haphazard. is it with the thought of taking all these things into account. when concurring opinions are done and what might be happening out there in the world? peel the layers back for people. why are we still waiting on immunity tomorrow? >> let me say this about the immunity decision. i think it is ■çin a norm is an urgent question for the country that it is very likely that chief justice john roberts wants a unanimous decision. and unanimity on a question like that will take a lot of time. there was a deadline internally in the court for issuing dissents and circulating them. even when you have issued, people have to weigh in. that takes a lot of time. it is not necessarily that they are being strategic but i don't want to dismiss the prospect that they might actually be being strategic. i did not expect for example, that we would get in immunity decision before thursday night's debate and low and behold, i was correct on that
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front. when we will get the immunity decision, we know will be on monday. i protected when the court first took the case that we would get that decision on the absolute last day of the term and here we are. i just want to underscore that what the court is doing now is actually ■çso enormous. we are talking about whether joe biden is too old to run and we actually have clarence thomas and samuel alito who are 76, and 74 respectively. they want to retire under a republican administration. and when they do, if they do under a republican of illustration, they would be replaced by younger, more extreme conservatives and the super majority will last for another generation and a half. that is what people need to be thinking about. >> we will leave those thoughts there for the people to ruminate and marinate on. thank you both for being fired up and ready to go with information this morning. appreciate you.
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a former republican's message to democrats. stop panicking and stand besideç your man. two weeks until the republican national convention and donald trump still does not have a running mate. this is crazy. we will discuss it all next here on "the weekend." kend." zquil sleep nasal strips. their four—point lift design opens my nose for maximum air flow. so, i breathe better. and we both sleep better. and stay married.
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i i don't get it but democrats are split on the best path forward for biden to beat trump in november. some entities calling for biden to drop out of the race. former republicans stuart stevens said democrats should stop panicking writing in the new york times, "of all the democratic pearl cultures, the most disappointing and offensive are the barack obama insiders that can't bring themselves to do what mr. biden did for their old boss. cover his back and fight."
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and to our msnbc political analyst to discuss and host of the fast politics podcast and former press secretary to vp nominee paul ryan. ■ç so good to have you in the house. brandon, what are they doing? i mean, how hard is it to stand by your man in the face of the assault that they know is coming and has come from republicans and a sort of rally around? what is your assessment of not only what you saw thursday night but the reaction afterwards? and how does that hurt their efforts going forward? >> i think rallying around makes sense it wasn't his 90 bad minutes. it was the worst debate anyone has ever seen that reveals very deep-seated problems that they have. a candidate who is clearly not just walking into some
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rhetorical trap and having a bad night. he showed what we have ■çseen f a very long time. this is a person who has significant cognitive issues that they have been lying to us about for a very long time. if they want us to pat him on the back for saying he had a rough night and then immediately pivoted telling us this was no big deal, this was a big deal. i think everyone sees what we saw with our own eyes and what we have been thinking we have been seeing and what they have been telling us we haven't been seeing. and saying, let's reset. is it realistic that we can have this person beat donald trump? and how will he perform in the job two, three or even four years from now? somebody who couldn't handle the opening question. it's not like they were in a heated back-and-forth. >> a person that will go sit down with vladimir putin or even our european allies and come to a diplomatic outcome. clearlyçthere is a substantive problem and a political problem and i think they need to at least acknowledge that before blindly moving on and saying, this is our guy.
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>> molly, responded to brendan buck here. do you think there is a cognitive issue with the president, number one? the other point i want to pull out from what he noted is that, the question of vladimir putin and european leaders, we did just see the president in france and italy. he was at the g7. what do you think? are you on the brendan buck half? are you over here with the proud boys? i love you guys, but -- in my. >> and with michael steele when i said, you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. i think it is very nice of brendan who is a republican who feels ■çjoe biden is not necessarily up to it. i would love to see republicans talk about their own nominee with all the criminal charges like that but they never did, right. democrats are the party of feelings and we need to be
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100%. look, man, i actually believe he had not a good debate. we are debate. the republican was bragging about how he had the cleanest h2o. the winner of the debate was donald trump because he was able to say, truly insane, insane, insane things and nobody i4i'oticed because so bi he people were fixated on joe biden. i think democrats are being held to a different standard here.$ç is the base still with him? it seems like they are. if we see hundreds of polls that show they don't like him anymore and they have lost faith in him, okay. but he had bonkers fundraising numbers. you have people that were angrier at the editorial boards more than joe biden. republicans are like slaves to their base. they do whatever their base once. hero democrats who have a base and they want something and they have this good man and maybe he is not a gifted or
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tour. and i would add that he has never been a gifted or a tour. and not one. >> i'm going to say one thing and then i'm going to shut up. >> never, symone. >> we just got word the biden campaign has raised $33 million since the debate. so put that ■çon the table. and i hear molly saying, look, stand by their man. i hear brendan saying, i saw what the man was doing. i want to throw this on the table. let's just say -- i don't think this will happen and i don't think there is reporting that suggest this will happen, but the president said on the stage that he is in this race. but if joe biden says he is not going to be -- there are only two is joe biden will not be the nominee. the first way is if he himself says he won't be or the second
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way if there is a revolt at the democratic national convention prior to where people are whipping delegates to go against what the states have done because joe biden won the delegates in these primaries. to then pick some new random nominee, what is the scenario people are looking for to sack joe biden? is that the conversation? are people really saying that you have to consider getting rid of the president? are are people saying they want to see a course correction or a change? i'm trying to understand what the conversation is. you are saying, people need to get rid of the guy? >> i'm saying they need to consider that. they need to look at data. >> what is the alternative? >> the alternative is clearly pamela harris. i think it would be hard for them to pass over pamela harris at this point, kamala harris. they need to look very hard at where she would poll well or better than him. i'm not saying you have to get
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rid of him. but be open to the idea. >> ■çmolly, chime in it. republicans never were like, let's look at donald trump. nikki haley is still getting 20- 30% of the ghost vote when she is not even in these primaries and they are like, we love our guy. he wants to give us clean h2o. i think this is ridiculous. he is not gifted. the next day, he killed it. the crowd or whatever. i thought the debate was really weird. it was like this hermetically sealed star trek. and we get up there and sometimes i have done this myself, i have a starter. but i will meander. and i have been freaked out like i am crashing and burning. so i did not think this was cognitive decline. ■ç the guy is incredibly old. we see this in the polls. voters know he is incredibly old. but there is a narrative here where they have counted him out before. i even wrote a piece in 2020
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after he lost the first two debates were i said, if you can't win, you shouldn't stay in. what happened was voters picked him. in north carolina. james clyburn came and endorsed him and then voters went and picked him in south carolina. i think if voters want him, they should have him. the idea that the elite knows better than voters is nuts. >> brendan buck, molly, thank you for the spirited conversation. we have more of the weekend after this. and later on inside with jen psaki, you can catch the interview with nancy pelosi at noon eastern right here on in this nbc. ■ç
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i think this i think this entire week has been a lot. i'm tired. >> i don't know. >> the conversation this week has been exhausting. >> especially because all the things we would be talking about otherwise. you saw donald trump on the debate stage. talking about clean h2o and lying about what happened january 6. lying about abortion. lying about immigration ■çand lying in such quick succession that it becomes almost impossible to fact check which is what he spent the majority of his presidency doing.
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it is what he spends the majority of his candidacy doing, overwhelming you with lies. and talk about what is happening at the supreme court this past week and what we will watch for this coming week. those are things that have the power to fundamentally shift the ground underneath us. >> she nailed it. smart points made. and they are important. i get the theatrics around the debate. i get this idea but you have the sitting president having more than a moment on the stage. and that is all good political ç fodder for sure. but i think the thing that bothers me the most is that in the context of the conversation, nobody did a compare or contrast. nobody said, that happened. and this is what happened with donald trump. this was not a good debate for donald trump. donald trump did not reset the narrative about him. you are a
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34 time convicted felon for gods sake. and i didn't see any drill down on that in the debate with respect to the questions. folks, you have a convicted felon running for president of the united states. that is a big deal. and so the emphasis seems to be more on the fact that the guy that we have known and watched over the last four years has a bad 90 minutes, rebounds the next day. that has been the pattern. this wasn't ■çanything new. and so i just think that it is kind of, for me, to your point, alicia, that there was a lot more that could have been covered and talked about and now it's almost like the death clock. like the family is meeting. oh my god. what will happen at camp david? meanwhile, donald trump is prancing around the country lying his behind off and nobody cares. nobody is saying anything.
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>> i don't think so. >> first of all, cheers and we are almost out of time. i do think that part of the fixation if you will on the president's performance in the debate, particularly by the media apparatus ■çand then political insiders and elected officials, is that i think they want to see more of the president. but i think it is fair to say that joe biden, the folks that saw joe biden at the rally friday, that is the person they want to see do town halls and some interviews. i think, from what i gleaned on friday, he seems up to the job. but when very sane people are sitting around saying, i'm questioning the president's cognitive abilities, because brendan buck is the same person. they are democrats that would brendan buck said. i think the best way you can show them better and you can tell them. and of the president wants to
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come sit here and talk on the weekend, we are happy to have you mr. president. call us. but let's see some town halls. joe ■çbiden can do it. he can answer questions. and we are going to see what the voters say, okay. >> works for me. >> coming up, former federal judge michael jay ludovic will be there. congressman jamie raskin will join ali to talk about the state of the supreme court. that is at 10:00 a.m. eastern right here on msnbc. the only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent all in one. to those with migraine, i see you. for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults. don't take if allergic to nurtec odt. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. it's time we all shine. talk to a healthcare provider
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