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good evening. tonight. this we could truly be do or die for the president and his party. is it time for president joe to go? state-by-state and day by day the people are taking their power back. you will hear from a palestinian american who resigned in protest of the war.'s reasoning is more personal than most. let's do it. this issue has to be settled this week. >> how long can democrats afford to be continue to have

this discussion? >> i think just a couple of weeks. >> even some of biden's top supporters in congress are saying that he needs to make his case to the voters now. this week. or else making a tough decision. >> i think this week is going to be absolutely critical. of the president needs to do more. >> behind the scenes democrats are even more blunt on his prospects. one democratic lawmaker that previously endorsed president biden said they will be

breaking their silence on his political future soon. another house democrat predicted there will be more calls for him to step aside in the coming days, and that is coming from house democrats who remain anonymous with their dissent. they cannot confirm four house democrats have joined the ongoing list of congressional democrats calling for biden to step aside. that brings the total number two nine house democrats. the new calls came during a virtual meeting this afternoon with house democratic leader jeffries to discuss his path forward. he remains defiant on staying in the race saying it would only take the lord almighty to get him to drop out of the race. at the end of the day the decision will come down to you. regardless of what happens another clear question remains. are they listening to the people who elect them? here is what he said when asked about his pull and for pulling

numbers. >> i do not buy that. >> is it worth the risk? >> i do not think anybody is more qualified than me. >> i do not by the polls. no one is more qualified than me. it may sound familiar. clear from that answer that joe biden is not listening to the people who helped him defeat donald trump, and one of my next rights that is enough is enough. democratic congressional candidate for colorado's third district says it is time for president biden to step aside saying he should put personal ambition aside and then stand up and announce he will withdraw from consideration for the deep democratic bench should work to nominate the younger. adam is with us now. now. great to have you with us. give us the argument. talk about why you believe president biden should step aside given

his track record and the fact he has beaten former president donald trump and given the fact he has delivered in his first three and half years what they sent them out to do. >> great to see everyone, and happy fourth of july on sunday. i can say blatantly that 27 polls cannot be wrong. i thought they may have the ability to change over the couple months, but i think we have run out of time. i am talking to steelworkers in may so and ranchers elsewhere in southwest colorado, and these are boots on the ground donors. people that are not really involved in politics, and they see what a lot of people see except for the inner circle of the president, which is key cannot win. i have heard that much. >> why do they think he cannot win? >> i think all of them watch

the debate or they saw clips of the debate. some of them saw the abc news interview or snippets of it. his last line was one of the most damaging i think that he seemed to be non-phased. as long as they gave it the old college try that is not much of a problem. in the argument that he and so many are making about how important this is doesn't seem to square with what he is saying. i think you do not have to be a political animal to get the vibe of what is going around. it is just going in the wrong direction. years ago it was a different story. a different conversation as well. >> give me your thoughts on the debate right now whether he should step aside to we can talk about the growing call of democrats. some prominent names.

saying that he should drop out. walk me through the counter arguments of why he needs to stay in the race and if whether or not he is the most qualified person to be trump. >> i would ask all of these people if they are prepared to ask president biden who has had an extremely successful first- term with a legislative accomplishment that we have not seen in recent history for a first-term president. with an economy that is actually blooming in the country with unprecedented job growth and low unemployment. number one energy producer in the world. are they prepared to ask him to step down? because that is ultimately what they are asking him to do is to step down from the presidency because he can't step aside and say i do not have it together enough to go on as the candidate, but i can still remain president. there is no way that is going

to happen. we have to have an honest conversation with what they are asking. i think at this point it is up to president biden on what he decides to do. the piling on in the media for the last 10 days has not been helpful. you can ask the questions, and he has to prove himself. that was a disastrous debate. everybody acknowledges that. he is on the world stage next week and will have to prove himself again. he has not demonstrated thus far he is incapable of running the country. are we in a crisis? do we have portable morgues in the streets of new york city and massive grades like we did four years ago? is the country in disarray? it is not. i'm concerned about how this is being reported on. everybody gets it. he has to prove himself. in the meantime we are losing focus on what is happening on

the other side. there is more news then that he is old. i think democrats also have to recognize the impracticality of what they are asking to do. this is not a west wing episode. it does not work that way. where he gets to walk away and they can write in a new candidate. there are a lot of issues. democrats are not agreeing on what time of day it is most of the time that there were 700 uncommitted delegates before this. they were not unified even with him winning overwhelmingly in the primary, so they think we will go into a brokered convention and every one will come out smelling like roses unified. that is unlikely. that is not even talking about ballot access, which is a problem too. this needs to be a balanced conversation and they need to know president biden has already proven himself to be to donald trump. it is not an unknown moving forward with him.

you bring in another candidate and they have to be vetted. they always have skeletons in their closet too. stay focused. eye on the prize. know that the enemy is donald trump in the extremism. >> last but certainly not least i want to bring you into the conversation for your opinion on this and where it comes down to it. he needs to prove himself. he has proven himself as president, but he needs to a few more times. i do know i want to know what you think about the vendor as far as how far this can drag out before there is a unity among the party to be hand the candidate. is time of the essence here or can they afford to drag this out to the convention through the next several weeks? >> certainly not that long. to me the issue is what happened at the debate was an episode or condition. i just look at the odds here. if he can get through the next few weeks up to the election without having a repeat of that in any sort of way and prove

this is not a debilitating condition the democrats are condo where they were at the beginning of this crisis or controversy. so far since the debate i would give him a b- on doing what he needs to do to demonstrate that it was just a one-off. the speeches he gave were forceful, but he still hasn't had a lot of unscheduled time with voters and reporters, and you can really see in the work. he had a good day today campaigning. they have shown the clips on social media. i still think his campaign hasn't forcefully enough put him out there to deal with the concerns. they are real concerns.>> what would it take? give me some specifics to what it would take

. what are you talking about here specifically about what you think needs to be done besides these scripted events with small groups of people? what do you want to see? >> i want to see him engage with other people in an unscripted moment. it could be voters are reported. in a town hall meeting perhaps would be a good way to do this to talk to voters and take questions. some might be difficult questions. so that you can really see them. i was surprised that the campaign. talk about timing. they have wasted time. they did not do this immediately after the debate. he did a good speech about the supreme court decision making the president essentially a king, but they need to take questions. it does not have to be with the media. at town hall or something like that. i think they have to do is soon because we are getting close to a dam breaking. if that happens it will be a

chaotic scenario with democratic party split in half essentially, which will not lead to easy decision-making about what comes next if something else has to come next. >> do you believe that that hurts down ballot races and swing states and other competitive races throughout the country? >> with respect to the other people on your i want to show respect. i have driven 57,000 miles. i am home five days a month. talking to independents and democrats and republicans. everyone is frustrated. i was one of the people of

which 75% of the people did not want this rematch. past two years ago for an open primary. it is one thing to say there is a cult leader. one party actually had an open primary and one decided to shut it down. i just think that ideally the time has sailed for a lot of different things. we have to figure out the best way to build an anti-trump coalition. it is not pro biden. those are two different things. i will go back to what i'm hearing on the ground. they are frustrated with both parties candidates. they would love to see a new generation. they have a new diverse generation, and it is not too late to get something done. i think we have to focus on that as opposed to believing that it is a bunch of d.c. talking heads that are actually calling for this. i guarantee i have spoken to more people than ever one you have had on the television for the past three or four days or weeks getting out there to the rural parts of the country and listening to real people.

>> that is a valid point. we certainly hope that you are doing that, but go ahead. you wanted to make a point as well? >> it is not news the american people are frustrated with the choices. that is not news. but those are the choices. if there was an open primary we cannot do what should have been before. he won the primary, and we are in july. in 2008 barack obama only had 50% and the democratic party support when he was on his way to winning the nomination. and he won over 90% of the democratic votes. understanding they are frustrated now. i hear you. it is not ideal, but it is a binary choice. if you were to ask those same people if they understand what it took to switch him out did they want him to resign the presidency? i would like to see what people think about that. >> why is that the issue? nobody is saying he should resign.

>> because politically you cannot keep him as president and expect him to step down away from the nomination. there would be too much pressure on him to step completely away. that is the political reality of it. >> i think you make a really good point about the dynamics of what would happen if you switch someone out. that is one of the hardest things to do. very few people do this well. putting somebody new in at this stage of the game i do not think is practical. i think the only practical alternative would be kamala harris. i do not think he has to resign the presidency. he can say i worry about what i would be like in another year or two. i can see myself slowing down.

i think he can hand it over and she can inherit a part of the organization. having a new cast of characters at this stage of the game could come in and fight into other in the convention would be chaotic. i think it is too late for that. >> and you cannot transfer the money. >> do you think it should be kamala harris if joe biden does take the decision to step down? do you get a sense from the voters that she would be a better replacement or one that people could get behind and address the issue of age. that is not a factor with her. she has been in competitive campaigns and knows the organizational infrastructure. she does check all of those concerns that they are raising. >> i do not think it is too late. it might be helpful that there

is a pushback to actually run a four month campaign. we can figure out how to do this. there is a way to set up townhalls that should have happened a long time ago. i think if you want to build a coalition somebody has to figure out how to get them to win. there is enough funding out there. i am just saying they are sick and tired of new candidates, and i think it can be liberating for someone to actually stand up and make a stand. that is what we have been trying to do, and we will see how it goes down. i fully support the names that everyone has been talking about. i think there is still a way to

figure out some type of assortment as you run into the convention. i think it can be done.>> how do you raise the money? they have to start from scratch. the money does not transfer over, and what about ballot access? what do you do about that? it cost billions to run for president. do you think that is going to have been in months? you cannot compare us to europe. this is a fantasy and a disservice to tell the american people that it is practical to start a whole new campaign before the election when he has actually done a pretty good job. at this point until he demonstrates he is incompetent

i think only he can make that decision moving forward. we have to start putting the focus back on what he is doing and not let them get away with it. our democracy is on the line and we cannot keep doing this. we are handing this over. >> we can keep having this conversation and it is important. we will try to continue it as much as we can. i appreciate you joining. also son breaking news. the scheduled call tomorrow with senate democrats by senator mark warner is not taking place tomorrow. we do not know when it will take place, but it is a sign that it won't be taking place. thank you for starting us off tonight. what it must be like right now to be in the west wing staff. we will talk to someone who knows about it very well. well. (♪♪) ♪ control is everything to me ♪ feel significant symptom relief at 4 weeks with skyrizi, including less abdominal pain and fewer bowel movements.

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we are back with today's breaking news. nine house democrats calling on president biden to step aside, and we have just learned a planned call with senate democrats tomorrow will not be happening. we talked a lot about what this means for biden, but what about the white house staffers who support him based on numerous reporting the answer is describing his staff as miserable and senior advisors being a total black hole. that is not increasingly worried that he is not up to continuing his campaign or finishing his second term despite his insistence that he won't be pushed out. one person close to the president says biden family's

involvement is not helping. calling it shakespearean. that they are not seeing the political reality clearly. our reporting reveals a long simmering fracture between the biden family and presidents age who say that infighting is getting in the way of helping the president battle his crisis. "the washington post" going further detailing the biden team's failures in the days after the debate. not addressing concerns head-on and instead allowing the president to retreat from public view making only 32 minutes of combined public comments over five days. none of it unscripted or even off-the-cuff for one democratic donor who is working to rally support for biden tells the post this firing squad will continue, but for how long? the question is does it end in a couple of weeks, which is manageable, or a couple of months, which would be a disaster? it is a self-inflicted wound, and the question is do we keep

shooting ourselves? joining me now. she served as deputy chief of staff to bill clinton during his second term:she knows what is taking place inside the white house better than most. thank you for making time. let me start with your general reaction to this crisis facing president biden tonight. nine white house democrats urging him to step aside believing that may be growing. what do you make of this growing backlash? where do you stand on him remaining the nominee? >> when he decided to run in 2020 he put the interest of our country ahead. the last 3 1/2 years he has done that.'s administration has done more for us. for american people. i trust that he will put the interest of the country and american people. i will make the decision that is in the best interest of our country,

so that is where i stand. he will make the decision, and i will say. let me start there. go ahead with your next question. >> let me ask you about what is taking place inside the west wing right now in the campaign. do you think these conversations are being had candidly? is the damage to some degree already done or do you see a realistic chance of getting this back on track with senior members of the campaign talking to the president about the conversation that is happening in the general public? >> number one is the american people need to understand that the white house is focused on doing the country's business. i worked in the white house with president clinton under impeachment. that was extremely stressful. what i observed and what i am confident is going on right now

is people are doing their job. there will be some small part focused on what you would call a crisis, but what people should know is they are doing what is needed to keep our country going in the right direction. the campaign will be focused. that is one of the things i want to stress. making sure the campaign is out there telling the american people all over the voters who barely spend five minutes thinking of politics. what is actually as state? with what he has done the last four years and what it means if trump is reelected for a second term. >> based on your experience what is the morale like? i know you are talking about the professionalism of the people in the white house, and i know that based on the quality of people that do serve in an organization or institution like the white house. to put it bluntly you know what

it is like in a time of crisis. does the morale when your commander-in-chief and leader and president and the person are motivated to go work for is embattled, and certainly facing the kind of scrutiny about competence that president joe biden is facing right now. >> morale is one of those things that can be distracting, but i can tell you that the professionalism you referred to . there is nothing more thrilling than being able to serve the american people. it truly is an honor to serve our country. if you are lucky enough to be working in the white house who are very cognizant of the fact that you have an opportunity in your particular portfolio with your particular task from making sure that a particular ceremony takes place. that is a lot of work to do, so

i think what you are asking is really in inside washington. it is what people like to talk about. what i am worried about and thinking about is what the hundreds of millions of americans know about this administration and what it has done. that is what i feel like the of the work we have to do. i did listen to your panelists. we have to work on making sure that the american people understand the choice between the biden's vision for our country. bringing down the cost of insulin. canceling student debt. the infrastructure bill. creating manufacturing jobs. the list is impressive. we need to make sure that all of our communities understand.

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secured the initiative for this belles lettres and seven have enshrined abortion rights since the decision two years ago. joining is a senior advisor for arizona abortion access be great to have you with us. and fellow organizers have been working around the clock on this initiative since last september. it is a herculean effort. notably you had already gathered the number of signatures needed months ago, but talk about the decision to get more signatures and how you got to this moment now. >> first, thank you for having me today. very excited to tell the nation about what we did in arizona just a few days ago. we collected 823,000 signatures from arizona voters. that represents about one in five arizona voters, and we reached all 15 counties.

every city from bullhead to yuma and everywhere in between, so we are really excited about our efforts. we really want to see abortion on the ballot in our state. >> where does your movement go from here? obviously we will look at november as a key milestone if this amendment does pass. where does the movement go not just to november but posted november?>> i lost our audio. >> can you hear me now? >> yes. >> where does the movement go from here? we note it is on the ballot in november. obviously if the secretary of state deems incredible there is no reason to think otherwise. when it is voted on or the amendment is voted on in november where does the movement go either way? whether it passes or doesn't. >> when we win, and i

guarantee we will in november. we will probably go through a bit of a legal process as well before implementation, which would amend the state constitution to guarantee the right to abortion in our state. after we will move forward with all of these sorts of things to implement this constitutional right. i think that our partners in arizona are looking at a number of ways to ensure that it is guaranteed. i think we might have a fight after we win in november. our opponents are as determined as we are. >> i am sure you are also over arkansas secured enough for their abortion as a spell initiative this week in that state. the kansas state supreme court reaffirmed abortion protections

in their constitution on friday also striking down two antiabortion laws. what do you make of the national trend that we are seeing? maybe not national yet, but the trend that we are sent across multiple states in this progress, and in some cases the red states to enshrined abortion rights in their constitution? >> i think that it goes well for us obviously. we have seen this movement go in red states like ohio, but arizona is a swing state. all roads through the election lead through our state. i think that that number demonstrates that arizonans were really keyed in on this issue, and we think that those from across the political spectrum will show up and support us. i think it is well for what we have going on in our state.

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i posted american has served in the u.s. air force over 22 years deploying overseas and climbing the ranks to become a first sergeant. over two decades of service he felt like he had more to give and would continue his service. all of that changed in october of last year when he received word that his aunt was killed in an israeli airstrike in the opening days of israel's assault on gaza. she was with her husband and sons at their apartment building . they had evacuated their home when forces fired a gun and shot at a nearby building. report of the returned but

nothing happened after 90 minutes. it was done in israeli airstrike hit, killing her in over 20 neighbors to the devastating moment changed his outlook. he decided he could no longer serve in the u.s. air force and stepped away october 21 and officially ended his military career last month. he told the washington post i knew right then that i cannot be a part of the system that enabled this. the family's home was probably hit by us-made bombs or similar israeli weapons according to a former bomb technician who reviewed photos and videos of the strike for the washington post. he raised that concern flagging that israel may have committed a human rights violation that killed his own family with u.s. weapons. he said their response was unsatisfying and factor into his decision to leave his job. saying that i cannot serve in administration that disregards facts and denies law to defend and enable such horrific violence. among the growing

number of experienced u.s. service members and government officials to resign in protest over the biden administration's handling of this war and its continuous support for israel. is also one of a dozen former biden officials are released an open letter last week calling the administration's policy a failure and that the united states diplomatic cover for israel has ensured our complicity and forcing starvation of palestinians. however, this the first no departure with such a direct connection to the staggering death toll. his aunt is the second palestinian relative of a u.s. service member killed in the war. the israeli military told the washington post its target that day was from a hamas operational structure within the building and it involved munitions. they criticize that response in

what he calls israel's failure to provide any evidence to back up the reasoning for the strike on his family's home. also raises a bigger question. we should be asking why the lives of innocent children were considered so worthless that they could just be considered collateral damage. after this break i will speak with him.

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we are going to keep looking at this member of the united states air force and his decision to end his military career over 22 years after his aunt was killed in an israeli airstrike. retiring last month. he joints me now. thank you for making time for us. let me start by asking about your decision. how did it feel to come to that decision in the aftermath of losing your aunt who was killed? >> thank you. i spent 22 years in the air force. i deployed approximately eight times. where i worked with the coalition forces as a mechanic on aircraft's. i did not agree with a lot of their policies. i hoped i could make an impact one day, and i want to to reach a high enough ring to lead with my voice because we know representation matters. i did not think it would be at

a time when we were killing family members. it was clear that israel was on a distraction and had no regard for innocent life. >> you bring up an important point about the fact you served for 22 years through many policies that the u.s. probably engage in that you did not agree with including previous israeli wars on gaza and many more. you served through all of those. you said you never received a single answer from your leadership team within the u.s. air force or the u.s. government about what happened the specific day of the airstrike that killed your aunt. is that still the case, and what he to you about the response to this incident from the american military and the government that really let you down? >> i brought the evidence to my leadership that had the direct oversight, so i had direct

connections with the community in washington, and i never received information back from my own military community. that was actually more surprising it was the first time i heard any sort of response from israeli military force was when "the washington post" reached out. it is an apartment complex, and they stated it was a hamas infrastructure. the families that lived there were teachers and small shop owners. 12 children were killed that day. i asked again how it was a hamas structure because it did not sit well with me. if it did not serve well with a member of the military you can understand the sheer number of palestinians who are facing the same bombing but declined to respond the second time around. we know they feel to provide any evidence for their actions and they continue to do so.

to include the laws of specifically proportionality and to establish evidence that justified their actions. >> i want to ask about how you have been processing this grief and loss of your aunt and also around the war more broadly. you are one of many palestinian americans. many others in specifically palestinian americans who are watching this war unfold from within the united states knowing that their tax dollars are arming the bombs of the country dropping the bombs killing their relatives inside gaza. how have you been able to process that grief throughout all of this? >> it took several months for me to process what was really happening there. that is when i started to communicate within the intelligence community. the more i learned about how the actions of israel are completely against not only international law about the way we are supplying them weapons

as violating u.s. laws as well. i have had members from the community tell me that the evidence we provide on the fifth and seventh of october were more than sufficient for them to stop hamas prior to that attack. they delete the investigation into the matter. the entire time i was wondering what i was going to do i started to connect with the other 12 members that you can see that resign from the state department so we can come up with an answer for the state department and the administration on how we should be moving forward because clearly it is painting a target on the american people as well. >> you are saying they were sharing or based on the conversations you were having they have shared intelligence with israel that could have prevented october 7?>> absolutely. >> let me ask you about the relatives that you do have an gaza. some of them are still alive but displaced. and he talks about the conversations you

have had with them and what conditions they are facing right now? >> the conditions are no different for the majority of palestinians living in gaza. they have been completely displaced. you cannot even refer to them as living conditions anymore. they are trying to find food every single day and living amongst diseases. there is no job to go to our everyday activity with their children. they are just trying to survive every single day. >> he resize signed in open letter calling on your colleagues who remain in government to speak out about what is happening inside gaza. what do you hope comes out of this if you are at times to get reaction did not work? why do you think more people speaking out woodwork or are there more people inside that you are aware of?

>> there are more people on the inside that have had the same dissent as the rest of the members, and that is why we understand the power of raising our voices together. the american government deserves a government that follows ethical standards. just because we left our positions does not mean that we want to stop doing our jobs of protecting the american people. it impact the national security with the blind support our administration has. this is not like any other conflict. they are watching a genocide happened live on every single social media platform. we have to stand up and demand a change but we hope a publicly stating we are calling on our colleagues to use their position to call for a change that it will make an impact. >> i am so sorry for your loss and for the grief that you and

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