democrats. >> the dinner is supposed to start at 7:00 tonight. attendees have spent between $75 and $10,000 to be here. the proceeds go to fund in the democratic effort in the state of north carolina. you mentioned former house speaker nancy pelosi will be in attendance, also top north carolina leaders. we are talking about north carolina governor, the current one, roy cooper, democrat, ineligible for reelection. he has met his max time. there is a tight gubernatorial race happening. who will be in attendance is the attorney general, the man who is running as the democratic candidate. this is an important election that will be happening here. the person he is running against, lieutenant governor mark robinson, this is someone who has been favored by former president donald trump and

former president donald trump has spoken very highly of him. of course, you talked about former house speaker nancy pelosi. when it comes to the importance of tonight, this is supposed to be a night of unity during what is a very fractured and seemingly devices time -- divisive time. there have been questions about what will president biden do? one of the questions, a lot of focus on former house speaker nancy pelosi. we know those lawmakers closest to pelosi have come out and asked biden to step aside, so many questions and what happens next but the focus here tonight really being on raising funds and really throwing their support behind those democratic lawmakers, politicians who are running in november on a local level. >> in terms of how people here are feeling, i want to take you from what we heard from one person all the way from philadelphia to be here tonight. >> i think, for me personally, you know, the stakes and what we are voting for and what we are voting against do not change, no matter who is on the top of the democratic ticket.

we are still going to be running against, you know, donald trump and jd vance and a really, really horrible ticket. for folks like myself and for so many people in this country, to me, the stakes don't change and i am, you know, a person who advocates and works for what i believe in, but i really have no control. only the president can make the decision whether he is going to be running again. >> reporter: alex, a lot of different opinions on their concerns or lack of concern on what will be happening with the democratic ticket here. as you heard, the one person we spoke to come she is not concerned she just knows who she does not want to vote for, alex. >> marissa parra, thank you. >> in mullins, a former biden insider gives us her take on the dilemma democrats are facing. i will speak with megan hayes about the conversations underway at rehobeth beach right now. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

good day to all of you from msnbc headquarters in new york. welcome to "alex witt reports" and we begin with decision 2024, president biden recovering from covid out of sight in self isolation today. behind the scenes he is navigating an intensifying debate and fielding calls from donors and others urging him to resign. he said he is returning to the campaign trail next week is one surrogate reminds the party of their history in launching leadership challenges. >> a lot of people forget. the challenge to jimmy carter before reelecting him to the presidency. what did that get us? a big defeat. the big fight we had. what did that get us? one state and the district of columbia. i have never seen in modern

time, a wide open convention be successful in november. it has not happened. now i don't think it will happen now. >> vice president harris is in massachusetts for a fundraiser today. how the campaign surrogates highlight biden-harris a coppersmiths. >> we are just starting to reap those benefits from things such as the inflation reduction act, things specifically in ohio, when we talk about whether or not there will be a real fight in ohio, let me tell you, we have results versus rhetoric. we know there is a new samsung factory that is over a $20 billion investment right there in ohio. that is a result of president biden and vice president, harris. >> donald trump, meanwhile, will speak at his first rally

post convention and post shooting. he will be joined by his running mate on stage, just ohio senator jd vance, who now has secret service detail. for more developments, we began with allie rough in rehobeth beach, delaware, with two breaking news developments on president biden. we just got an update on his covid diagnosis and how he is doing, as well as a big show of support on his campaign. take it away on both. >> reporter: that's right, . we have an update from president biden's physician, doctor kevin o'connor, providing the public an update as he remained in rehobeth beach recovering from his covid diagnosis. from this letter, he says the president tested positive for covid again today. he has completed his sixth dose of paxil event to help with his symptoms, which he says include a loose, nonproductive of cough and hoarseness but he says his symptoms continue to improve steadily and the virus accounts

for more than 30% of the new infections across the united states, according to the cdc. we are seeing, obviously, as the president continues recovering from covid in rehobeth beach, since he has gotten here, we have seen a new wave of democratic lawmakers making the call for him to step aside in the 2024 race, but we are also seeing some show of support from democrats as he continues to face that call. we know from sources familiar with the clintons, the former president, as well as the former democratic nominee herself, hillary clinton, they say the clintons are supportive of his decision to stay in this race, they are even telling donors and encouraging donors to continue backing him. the source also added that the clintons have been in touch

with the white house in recent days to offer their support in any way they can. as we talk about this divide in the democratic party over whether the president should step aside, we are also seeing this growing disagreement among democrats who want him to, who should replace him at the top of the democratic ticket. some of them, have always obviously called to replace him with vice president, harris. also, that could include an endorsement from president biden when and if he decides to step down but we also see calls from some democrats for many open primaries at the convention to throw their hat in the ring, potentially messy process. here are some the back and forth we are hearing from lawmakers today. take a listen. if president biden decides to step back, we have vice president, harris. she is ready to step up, to unite the party and take on donald trump and to win in november. >> i don't think we can do a coronation, but obviously, the vice president will be the

leading candidate. >> reporter: at the end of the day, alex, you know and i know that the delegates are the ones that choose the nominee. we expect this virtual rollcall among delicate -- delegates to begin the first week of august. unless and until the president decides to step down he is and will continue to be the democratic nominee and, as we continue seeing these calls for him to drop out, it is coming in waves, we know vice president harris is juggling this balancing act. she is continuing to defend the president while also being ready if she is needed to step in at the top of the ticket. she told supporters at the massachusetts fundraiser you mentioned at the top, we are going to win, alex. >> good to hear. we know she is there in

provincetown today, thanks for that. let's go to julie joining me now from capitol hill. california congressman mark takano today made it now 36 democrats in congress calling for biden to exit the race. what are you hearing and what is the concern from those who do not want him to bow out? >> reporter: i will start with the first part of your question, alex. importantly, two weeks ago between a call with other democratic leaders and ranking members, we had reported that mark takano said privately biden should exit the race. he has avoided us when we tried to get him in the halls to elaborate on that publicly, it is notable today his public sentiment, he not only calls for president biden to step aside but he has a plan moving forward. he calls on biden to pass the torch to harris. that is notable because other democrats on that list of 36 have not provided a plan for what happens if biden does step aside or think it they should be an open convention, such as jim clyburn, an

institution at the capitol and someone biden is listening to very closely, he said it would be chaos this close to november. you asked about those who think it might not be a good idea. you have voters who have said that to me in the battleground state of pennsylvania. you have lawmakers and not the rotors to say that around the country because i can't imagine what happens next, it is so chaotic and new. it is three months before such a pivotal election, where democrats want to get back to talking about former president donald trump and republicans but the president's age, the president's out, whether he is able to bounce back fully from that debate we saw at the end of june is a concern from democrats who don't believe he is the strongest person to go up against trump in november and keep more importantly, congress in the hands of democrats. >> okay, thank you for that. join me right now on the phone from provincetown, massachusetts is where vice president harris will be attending a fundraiser.

tell us about the event and your reporting on campaign strategy being planned by her allies, if president biden exit the race. >> reporter: good afternoon, alex. i am talking from a cubicle in provincetown. we need to have a sold-out campaign fundraiser which is where the vice president will be speaking in an hour. there are no cameras allowed inside but this matter so much because are so many questions surrounding president biden's future, who would replace him on the ticket if he were to drop out, all of this comes, of course, vice president harris has really stepped into this bigger role where she is balancing defending him and being ready to step in if he steps aside. calls in the party have really grown and intensified over the past few weeks, voters here are waiting to go into the fundraiser and they say if biden drops out, there are a number of voters who told me that in the last hour, the they

will be watching closely vice president harris. it is a real issue with donations right now because of the campaign. all these questions about president biden's future has lessened donations for the campaign. we think one of the things we will hear from her today, on a call with democratic donors, she said if we want to win this election, we know which candidate puts the american people first, our president, joe biden, with every decision he makes in the oval office, he thinks about how it impacts americans. americans witness that every day. we expect her to say something similar to that here at the campaign fundraiser. allies to kamala harris tell me there is this shadow campaign, this quiet, informal planning going on to see what a campaign for, harris would look like and

what that would look like, including focusing on states like georgia and north carolina. it is very interesting to see how that is coming together, alex. >> thank you, yamiche alcindoor. joining me now was meghan hays, former special assistant to president biden and former director of message planning. welcome back to the show. we keep bringing you back for number of reasons, not the least of which you know president biden and his team very well, meghan. what are the conversations likely happening now? what does president biden need to hear to choose whether or not to leave the race and do you think he would direct his delegates to support the vice president? >> so i think the president has made it clear he is not leaving the race. i think the conversations that are happening in rehobeth, i think he is recovering from covid and doing what people do when they are sick and i also think they are finding out where he will go on the campaign trail, what he will do moving forward in the battleground states and i think

they are looking at the polling in the analytics and making sure they had all the places they need to and they are touching on the polls from the republican convention with the mega mac extreme policies that the president feels very strong about. i think that is probably what they're working on now. i do think, if he were to make that decision, different decision that he is already make i think yes, he would support the vice president. >> can i ask you? do you think he is just fuming, do you think he is to doff reporting has suggested that or hurt or both by all these calls, now 36 publicly, including people he would think were his allies, 36 calls for him, within congress, democratic members of congress to leave the race another saying, look, we could do this, we could do that, we supported an open primary or we support, harris, this, that or the

other. as he hurt, mad, what is he like with this? >> the president does not hold grudges so i don't think he is holding a grudge. he is a very loyal person. i am sure it is hard to swallow. i am sure he is mad and upset at the same time. he knows he made a mistake at the debate, he knows he had a bad performance and he knows he has to go out there and proved to not only voters but his colleagues that he can do the job for another four years. i think the president is probably taking it all in stride but i think he is focused on beating donald trump. that is all we need to be doing in november and not focusing on what he will be doing, if he will resign or who we should support. i think democrats need to collect together and turn their focus on donald trump. >> what about the people surrounding him though? we have for multiple times he has a very tight, very loyal, you say he values loyalty, of course. he has a loyal group to be there to support him. in their support of them, are they saying, look, that debate sucked. you really get yourself a massive hole. you've got to get out of it. does he know the reality of that? >> you know, it is interesting, i mean people are reporting the

president lives in a bubble, doesn't look at the phone, doesn't watch event does not talk to people outside of his advisers. he is very much a person who knows what happened at the debate was not good for him. he totally understands that. they are working towards getting back the ground with that tight circle around him advising him what to do to move forward. they are talking to him about what state to go to, what counties to go to, what policies they need to be talking about and what is important to voters here. elections happen on the ground. the campaign has over 1000 employees on the ground talking to voters every day. that is what people are focused on here. they're not focused on whether or not he struck out on all of this many primary, it is very clear he made his position and now they are focused on seeing it through. >> speaking of not living up to expectations, or at least hopes, let's talk about former president trump's rambling speech to the republican convention. it was 92 minutes long. political wrote after his

remarks of it, the rest of his speech should not reflect a single authentic note of reflection, not a hint that he had given a moment's thought to the wider, more profound message to the american people. how much was a gift were the lies to democrats? >> it is reminding the voters and the public what another four years would look like. the biden campaign, i think they are doing it, there highlighting all the things he said and the reality show what was in there convention, it was a gift for democrats reminding voters, reminding independent voters what they, you know, what they have to look forward to it they vote for trump. >> and ascii very quickly, how much difference could a speech like that make? >> i mean, i think there are endless possibilities here, the crazy mad mac extreme views, they can make ads, they actually do impact independent voters. i think you saw that after the people were like him i would've

voted for him but now i am not going to. these things all matter and they all have three and half months for people to get to know donald trump again and to reevaluate their, you know, see where they will vote. >> okay, meghan hays, look forward to seeing you again soon, appreciate the candid conversation. we will dig deeper into the content of donald trump's convention speech next. a lot has been written about it, most of it critical. we are back in 90 seconds. seco.

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are in michigan gearing up for the former present's first rally alongside his new vp pick, jd vance. comes a week after the assassination attempt on trump at that rally in pennsylvania. von hilliard is in grand rapids. what are trump supporters telling you today, my friend? >> reporter: alex, when it comes to the vice presidential candidate, jd vance, most of the folks we talked to were unfamiliar with him, either before this week or they became familiar with him just recently during the vp pick process. he rose to prominence, of course, nationally, hillbilly elegy was published in 2016. at the time he was a never trump are. ultimately he ran for 2022 u.s. congress and won the seat in talking to the trump faithful in grand rapids, michigan, a

midwestern battleground stay, it was interesting to hear most folks were only just becoming familiar with the story. listen to a few of the folks we talked to. ♪ ♪ >> i heard about him but i didn't really know who he was, what he stood for, i heard he was not a trumper at first but he switched his tunes so, you know, i kind of looked him up. he is ready to fight with the american people, as far as i understand. >> reporter: you trust him? >> oh yeah. i trust him. >> i don't really know much about the man but i like the idea he is younger. it is about time we start getting younger people in congress and i feel he is strong. hopefully, after trump finishes his four year term, this man might be strong enough to carry on another four, maybe eight. >> reporter: that is the sentiment. today, in a lot of ways, coming off the convention speech, for

jd vance, this is his entrance onto the campaign trail. they will be taking the stage here in michigan together. jd vance will be holding his own separate independent rally in virginia this monday. for the next 100+ days, alex, this will be a duo of trump and jd vance going on the campaign trail separately often and also an opportunity for the current ohio senator to introduce himself and why he is on this ticket to the country. >> sounds like a job that needs to be done. thank you very much, vaughn hillyard, for that. democrats, meanwhile, are reacting to former president trump's 90 minute convention speech with a fair amount of eyebrow raising on his meanderings. >> crazy nancy pelosi on all of it, boom, boom, boom. we have to take the power and make it a little nicer and pointed at the top instead of a flat nosed. the people of the shipyard said, this guy sort of knows what he is doing. it was the most beautiful ships, right?

has anyone seen silence of the lambs? [ laughter ] >> the late, great hannibal lector. he would love to have you for dinner. >> what is with this subsection? anyway, the rambling speech prompted john nichols to write, it is observed to suggest he can't be being. joining me now is democratic strategists and msnbc previous analyst previously served as secretary to vp candidate paul ryan. the new york times opinion writer described this speech is low-energy. we saw far south the rambling nature but it was boring, as well. it was as usual. how much of a gift was this for the democrats, whoever ultimately faces donald trump? >> i think that for donald trump at the rnc, that speech is a major gift. christmas came early for democrats in some senses. this was a speech that was

touted as to be unifying, trump taking a different tone, more conciliatory donald trump, the unfortunate series of events following the assassination attempt but however, within the first 12 minutes, which i would argue were about unity written by some pretty strong speechwriters, he abandoned the script entirely and went on his own for the next hour and a half and returned to the maga, anti-immigrant, racist, you know, we have seen this story before, the 2020 negating the results of the 2020 election, calling out the people he feels did him wrong, whether it was a court system, the justice system or individuals who chose to prosecute his crimes in public, this was donald trump doing what donald trump does best, reaching out to his base. he showcased the expansion of pete the >> a lot of people might've assumed, what the rnc was trying to do on the days leading up his speech. none of that matter. donald trump was speaking to his maga base, essentially given the speech he wasn't able

to finish on the day of that assassination. donald trump is who we always has been. if anybody forgot, we know four years ago, it was in the past, many people forgot who donald trump was but he put it on full >> wasn't just donald trump. we heard extremist rhetoric from other speakers at the convention. let's listen to some of them. >> the democrats' economy is of, by and for illegal immigrants. >> it is the indoctrination of our children. >> and the democrats have handed over control of my stay, arizona's border, to the drug cartels. >> just because you call yourself the president, that doesn't mean that much inherently. i can call my dog the ceo of hewlett-packard. it does not mean she is. >> how different is this rhetoric from four or eight years ago

>> well, it is pretty consistent to where the party is in the type of people who have taken over, the more familiar faces we have seen in the republican party for a long time. there are a lot of people him a bit romney didn't even attend. i think overall this was a pretty successful convention for republicans. some of the rhetoric could be put aside, this was a party that looked like it had its act together. was energetic, it was enthusiastic and it was not the infighting we have seen in you know, images of the first trump convention, they were really on the floor trying to take down the delegate count. this was much more inviting relative to what a normal trump event is. his speech, as long and is boring and old-school as it was, i think was perfectly fine because he did not need a game

changing speech. he is winning right now. if keyboard people, that is perfectly fine for him. i don't think any direction of the campaign changed through this convention and it probably only just help them emerge as a clear front runners. >> yeah, but it it by him any independent voters? did it by him anybody who wasn't already under the trump tent? did it by anybody outside of that arena? >> i think it might have. a lot of people right now are looking at this and saying, i don't know if i can vote for joe biden given what i have seen from him but i am not sure how much i like donald trump. donald trump might be boring and we are but he was far less scary, he was far less angry and far less dark and there was a lot of enthusiasm there. i think they have given a lot of people permission. i don't think the trump campaign is trying to win over democrats. their strategy is to turn out as many republican voters as possible.

at the same time, i don't think they scared away as many in deeper -- independence that they could have. >> that could be a big difference. he is eight years older. might he be tired of the game he puts on all the time? >> i don't know. the speech itself, it was much shorter than what he did, it seemed like the ad-libbing was a bit self-indulgent. he likes doing those things. he loves doing the one-liners. i think he actually, you know, if you're gonna compare the two, that is a winning argument for donald trump, as well. >> ameshia, we have new reporting that biden's family has started talking about the prospects of an exit plan for him as a nominee, if you were to decide to step aside. what do you think is the final straw? what do you think is the deciding factor for president biden and his family? >> president biden. i think he spoke very clearly

when he spoke a few days ago when he said it was his decision and his decision alone but he also mentioned the lord. this is a decision joe biden would have to make. thus far, he has not come out and told us anything else. i think that, you know, the biden-harris ticket recognizes they have hurdles to overcome as a campaign. there have been some sidelines, unfortunately due to the debate and also because of his recent coveted diagnosis but the campaign is still going., harris is out on the campaign trail today. the surrogates have not stopped. there are multiple cities they are visiting over the next few days. i don't think there is a reason not to but we have heard from joe biden's doctors, he feels very well. it is not like he has these very intense form of cover 19, he will be back on the campaign trail very soon himself. >> let me ask you about the talk, ameshia, better many primary, a lot of

hypotheticals, , if joe biden were to leave the race? is that not fair to, harris? >> i not only think it is not fair, i think it is completely an ignorant motion. looking at the calendar thus far, moving towards the dsa, there's no time in which this makes sense. in addition to this, we know the biden already has the delegate count that matters, thousands of those., harris is the sitting vice president. any idea you can skip over sitting vice president, the first woman sitting black president that is black, member of the community that brought joe biden to the dance and got him to the primary and the most consistent supporter in the family is quite disrespectful. >> ameshia cross and brandon buck, you guys will be back . you know that. thank you. what we know about a drone flown by the gunmen who tried to kill former president donald trump. ald trump. begins to neutralize acid on contact. r-o-l-a-i-d-s spells relief. missing out on the things you love because of asthma?

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walked on stage. a new joint fbi department of homeland security bulletin warns of retaliation for the shooting. police spotted the suspect 62 minutes before shots were fired. investigator say the suspect may have done a site survey the sunday before on july 7 and may have hinted at his plans on a gaming platform. joining me now, claremont, former fbi special agent, noun msnbc national security analyst and leader of microsoft office digital analysis center, which keeps you busy, my friend. first, what are you hearing about the status of the fbi investigation and these new details about possible site surveys and the ability to even fly a drone over that rally site? >> alex, there were two big questions six, seven days ago, right after this happened. one, what was the motive? it was not exactly clear. no political discussion really

out in the open. the other was reconnaissance, what you could normally see with these types of attacks, maybe they could do an attack if it was a mass shooter and a place they know fairly well locally or if they would do some sort of reconnaissance. 10 years ago, that would be one of the open questions of any terrace, how do they pick the target and how did they know how to do the attack? today we know quite a bit more. it is interesting to see the investigation and talk more about it and the idea the individual may have done a survey, site survey prior and also used a drone, that is remarkable, reconnaissance, the kind of aspects we would be looking for is indicators to know that individual had picked out such a location to do the shooting. >> you, we will get granular here. police first spotted the suspect at 5:09 p.m. with the backpack in a rangefinder. the suspect was somehow later to scale that unguarded building and eventually was

challenged by a police officer but it was not until 5:51 p.m. that state police alerted secret service and after that, two minutes, the agency alerted its snipers. trump walked on stage at 6:02. at 6:11, the first shots rang out. if you were the agent in charge of this investigation, what kinds of questions does this timeline raise for you? >> any time you see someone with a rangefinder trying to get into a location that is as protected as this would seem to be an immediate trigger. i wasn't them -- some sort of a shutdown but you don't have to clear out the entire area but you can move to locate that individual and make sure that individual is not around. that could be delaying former president trump taking the stage. he didn't necessarily need to go out there immediately. they could have taken time to try to clear the area. that is kind of a counter reconnaissance is patrolling, people are out looking for this

individual to see where they went. they could have delayed, maybe scared the individual off even, even if they did not find him, it could've delayed such attack. there will be a lot of questions about the timeline. >> on the suspect's devices, investigators found 14,000 images, including a live stream of the butler rally. they say he recently looked up trump and president biden and dates of the democratic national convention. fbi agents are still analyzing his emails and his gaming accounts but how do you interpret what has been found so far and why is a motive still undefined? >> i think what we will find, alex, there has been a shift over, even the last two decades, particularly the last decade, of us always trying to identify an ideology or some sort of motive. that comes out of ices. increasingly, over the years, many of their subjects they may be tied to an attack. for example, the orlando nightclub shooting, there was conflicting ideology. it wasn't very clear. they did not seem to be that invested or that ideologically

motivated. with this individual, just based on what we know so far, there is a lot to go in this investigation, they may have looked at no particular ideology at all, just to do something and to do something on a high profile target on either political party or there could've been another target with a high profile. there used to be, you know, soussionin the counterterrorism realm, a lot of people just want to be somebody, even when they feel like they are nothing. they will do something just become known. increasingly, as we look at this, there is no clear ideological motive. it seems this person was just intent on doing something harmful to somebody of high influence. >> yeah, scary. clint watts, thank you for that. my next guest is meeting with the vice president. her big takeaways next. keaways

new attention on, harris today asked democrats wait to see if president joe biden will heed the growing calls for him to step out of the race. his vice president has forged on, making campaign stops across the country this week, including in michigan, where she made a direct appeal to republican and independent female voters by introducing a core message of the campaign, reproductive rights. >> most people believe that one does not have to abandon their faith or deeply held beliefs to agreed the government should not be telling her what to do with her life. [ applause ] right? >> if she chooses, she will talk with her priest or her pastor or her rabbi or them on but it should not be the government telling her what to do. >> joining me as one of the moderators of the event, let me

just throw in our good friend, thank you for joining me. give me your takeaways as you are watching vice president harris try to connect with republican and independent women in that conversation. what did you think? >> i thought it was a very powerful discussion. i saw the audience really be engaged and react to her in a very positive way. some of the women afterwards, the republicans, former republicans or independents and democrats were in the audience. they were grateful there was this type of event happening, where she was bringing republicans and moderates together to have these types of conversations. i think it is a good example of what we need to be doing as we go into the november election. i think this issue is so important. i think conservative women, they care about it, too. i think she was very welcoming in this space. i think it is important for her to be doing this bridging the gap here to welcome them into the fold. >> i am us can ask if you heard from many detractors kemeny

skeptics of hers? do you have an impression or a sense of whether who would have a better chance of beating donald trump?, harris or joe biden? >> you know, right now it is the biden-harris ticket . right now, i feel like we have been on this roller coaster ride for quite a long time and as for someone who doesn't like roller coasters, i want to get off of it and just get onto beating donald trump. that is what is critical. i think she is incredibly powerful. she is very eloquent and so smart on policy. i think she is very genuine on these issues. i think, you know, i think she would make a great candidate. i think she is doing the work she needs to in the campaign field right now while this discussion continues to play out. >> how are the never trump republicans reacting to calls for biden to step aside?

do you think they could totally get behind harris? again, this is all hypothetical. we don't even know if we have to have this conversation officially. >> right. certainly, i think the space is divided, to be honest. we have seen comments from a lot of very vocal critics say in joe biden has to go for the greater good of the country. and then you see those, but, whatever the democrats decide, whatever it is, just decide so we can all start growing in that direction and work together to defeat donald trump. i think it is an important conversation to be having, but i think the longer this goes on, the more this is helping donald trump. i think that is my biggest worry is that we are letting time pass instead of focusing on, you know, what we should be focusing on. that is the policies. the policy work. rings that really matter to americans is what we need to discussing. the biden-harris administration has been successful. i don't agree with everything, obviously. he has done a lot of great

things for the american people. i want to get back to focusing on that and really focusing in comparison with the donald trump who talks about hannibal lecter, who knows what we will get with him. >> has harris giving you background, giving your background, what went through your mind watching the assassination attempt on the former president last saturday? >> i have to be honest, i was horrified. i was sick to my stomach when i heard the news. i was also just completely shocked at the development of the events, i think there is no room for political violence in this country, there shouldn't be. i think this is getting very much out-of-control. look, as someone who deals with threats, it is ugly. i think we need to get to a better place. you know, i am very, like i say, just very taken aback on what happened there in terms of security of the perimeter and

how the whole thing developed. i do think we need to get to the bottom of it so we can protect our leaders and make sure we have safe spaces for americans to attend. i feel awful about the loss of life that happened at that rally. >> yeah, terrible. after the incident, donald trump said he would deliver unified speech at the rnc but 15 minutes into it 90 minute speech he went off prompter and went into his usual grievances and false claims. what does that speech tell you? >> i think, you know, what do they say, a tiger doesn't change its stripes. i think, as much as they wanted to think that, maybe they thought donald trump was a changed man, but he is who he has. i don't doubt it was a horrible and traumatic experience for him. it would be frightening for anyone. i will say this, his speech started off and went off the rails like it usually does. i was picturing, honestly, alex, the staff, we have all

been there as we have worked at the white house, no, no, no, here he goes. and then sitting there going and shaking our heads. the reality is, the message that came across during that entire week was it is not the party of unity. it is the party of unifying between and behind an agenda to suit them, an extreme agenda. i think that is the take away. when you see jd vance and donald trump together, i picture, you know, i actually consider him to be a mini me of donald trump. there is no difference between the two of them. this is a very dangerous ticket. >> olivia troye, we will see you again soon, my friend. thank you much. what is back to normal and what is not the day after a flawed software update created chaos around the world? he worl

the i.t. glitch that crippled businesses

around the world may have been fixed, but it is still causing major headaches for travelers today. there have been more than 1600 cancellations, more than 22,000 delays today alone. this is according to flightaware. we should note it is not clear how many of those issues were caused by yesterday's outage. mbc's adrian broadus is joining us from chicago's o'hare international airport. look, as i say welcome to you, my friends, let's talk about what the travelers there had to deal with today. >> reporter: alex, they are dealing with long lines. in particular, this one behind me. some people have been waiting in this line for more than two hours. this particular line is only for people who had a flight cancel and are trying to rebook those flights now. all of this after that failed software update yesterday. to be clear, this was not a cybersecurity attack. this was a failed software update linked to microsoft windows. it is not just airports that have been impacted. the 911 systems, as well as banks muppet all morning we

have been chatting with travelers who are feeling the impact, including one man named robert. he was supposed to leave 24 hours ago to go on a family vacation, a tradition. that is something his 86-year- old mother started when their father died. now he says he can't go. take a listen. >> we are going home. we have no choice. i mean, i have looked at expedia, southwest, all the different airlines, nobody has any flights available. that is not the airlines' flights but there is nothing that can happen. i've got no choice but to cancel the trip. the rest of the family can go. they will be there but we won't be able to join them. it is heartbreaking. >> reporter: so much frustration, some of it moving passengers to tears, including a woman i spoke with earlier, who was trying to get back home to atlanta after attending a funeral in india. she has been

stuck here at the airport for nearly 2 days now, alex. >> oh my gosh, and that gentleman missing out on such a special family tradition. that is heartbreaking. is there any word on when things could get back to normal? >> reporter: who knows? the airlines are back up and running, trying to get back to normal. it is unclear when they will be fully on track. one passenger here, traveling with her dogs, you probably heard it barking, there is such a major backlog. you have to remember, there were flights scheduled for today so they are trying to swiftly rebook, but it could be weeks, not just airlines. some folks don't even know when they will be able to reschedule their surgeries that were scheduled at hospitals, alex. >> i have to tell you, being in that line would put me in a bad mood. adrienne broaddus, thank you so much. in the next hour, donald trump's speech at the republican convention. is it the gift that will keep

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