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our guest just mentioned. the historic breakthrough of the long routine. if you're watching tomorrow, we have something special. weekend saturdays. saturdays, 4:00 p.m. eastern, tomorrow, 4:00 p.m. eastern. you can dvr it or make a note to catch some of what you might have missed on "the beat" with ari melber. i'll see you monday as well. the reidout with joy reid is up next. tonight -- >> already, i'm happy to know we have enough delegates to secure
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the nomination. >> later there month, we will gather in chicago united as one party where we are going to have an opportunity to celebrate this historic moment together. >> another his, to moment for vice president kamala harris today. just 12 days into her campaign and it is now certain that she will be the democratic nominee. as she moves closer to a decision on her running mate. also tonight, the "washington post" uncovers yet another trump scandal. this one involving trump's doj shutting down an investigation into whether trump took an illegal $10 million campaign contribution from the president of egypt. >> plus, a consequential presidency, joe biden brings home americans held prisoner in russia adding to his long list of accomplishments. not the least of which was removing donald trump from power.
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we begin tonight with history made and a glass ceiling shattered. vice president kamala harris is now the de facto democratic nominee which would make her the first black woman and first asian-american woman, because you can be both, in american history to secure a major party's presidential nomination. vp harris crossed the delegate threshhold needed to clinch the nomination during the national committee's virtual role call. virtual voting began thursday taking just over a day for harris to reach the thresh hold. after jamie harrison interesting party chair, made the announcement on a virtual campaign update call, vp harris dialed in. >> bottom line, i say to all the friends on the call. we are going to win this election and it is going to take all of us, and so let's let folks know our campaign is about the future and it is about an expansion of rights and freedoms and for the opportunity of everyone to not just get by but
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to get ahead. >> the dnc will not make an official announcement of the results until monday evening when the virtual voting process closes for delegates to this month's democratic national convention. the momentum for kamala harris is potent, like nothing many of us have ever seen. her team announced today that it raised a stunning $310 million in july. outpacing donald trump whose campaign took in $138.7 million last month. it's massive, historic fundraising haul is a remarkable turn-around which just underscores the renewed these. i can't from democratic donors, for the harris campaign is the fastest that campaign has crossed a threshold in presidential history. two-thirds of the fundraising came from first time donors. the "washington post" reports that some 94% of the donations were under $200, with teachers
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and nurses among the top occupations among the contributors. let's give the young people their flowers, too. her campaign reported having ten times the number of donors in july as in the previous month from gen-z. and eight time the number of millennial voters as the month before, some 60% of donors in july were women. lars is adding several top advisers to her campaign staff including david plouffe who managed barack obama's first presidential run. late today, president biden weighed in on the historic moment, posting this photo saying, quote, one of the best decisions i've made was picking kamala harris as my vice president. now that she will be our party's nominee, i couldn't be prouder. let's win this. harris will accept the nomination in chicago at the democratic national convention in just under three weeks. meanwhile, all of this momentum has caught the trump campaign flat-footed. they haven't been able to figure out how to pivot.
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down to j.d. vance admitting in a donor call that biden passed the torch to harris was a sucker punch for the campaign. joining me now, the democratic strategist and msnbc legal, political analyst, co-founder and president of the leaders we deserve and the co-founder of march for our lives. i haven't seen him in such a long time. i'll come to you in a second. first, as you're a veteran campaign operative, can you just put this in context? have you ever seen, and we take into account that the obama 2008 campaign was absolutely historic and had all of this energy. compare all of this. have you ever seen anything like this? >> well, i certainly haven't seen anything like it in such a condensed period of time. and that's what is so extraordinary. i think what is important, you were talking about this. it is not just an anti-trump campaign. it is a pro kamala campaign.
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that's why this is more than just a presidential race. it has turned into a social political movement. that's why donald trump is flailing. he doesn't know how to land his attack. it's not going anywhere. black jobs turned into a rallying point. when you did you first learn that you were black turned into a rallying point. when you have that kind of, when you have that kind of energy and you see 60% of the donations were from women, two-thirds were new donations, people are engaged. they want to support all those thing that donald trump is running on. kamala harris represents the antithesis of that. she represents all of those things that are forward-looking and not in the rear view mirror. that's why when she says forward never backward, and trump comes well the project 2025 and make america great again, what are you talking about, dude? and he's feeling that, he's
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seeing that. you see how the campaign is responding. i can't really even compare it to obama in 2007, 2008, that was a campaign that you had to drive up. this is intense. >> it is and in 12 days. it feels like it's longer than 12 days. i remember covering particular for our lives. the thing that you noticed about march for our lives, especially when did you that big rally was how diverse march for our lives is. how parkland students were reaching out to black students in detroit and chicago and bringing them in. when you brought all of you in a room together, you were like the rainbow coalition. younger people are more diverse. they're more used to multiracial people. none of this is odd to your generation. it does feel like switching from biden to kamala harris has destabilized the trump campaign because they really don't know how to run against a younger person. the same way the mccain campaign
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couldn't deal with obama. >> it really is. how phenomenal it is that the vice president has been with so many young people really rallying. the vibe, frankly, of the campaign has completely shifted, where we think we can win this thing. young people are turning out and they're excited. we've seen it everywhere. social media, conversations having with people in person or just young people at her rallies, the diverse coalition you see to screen, we're fired up and we're ready to win. we've seen this play out before. we've defeated donald trump once before and he will get defeated again. and his bigotry, his hatred, and his racism is going to be left in the history books and not in the white house. >> you don't want to credit
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culture with everything but there have been 20 years with people seeing female presidents, people watching veep. it is normalize that had a woman can be president, a black person can be president. this is normalized in the culture. if you're younger, this does not seem odd to you. young people are such a huge driver. millennials don't give money to campaigns. let's be clear. they're giving to this. young folks are really engaged. do you have a favorite among the potential vps and is there a candidate that vice president harris could pick that could hurt her momentum? let's put up the list. we have andy beshear, we have pete buttigieg, senator mark kelly, governor j.b. pritzker, governor josh shapiro and governor tim walz. is there someone that would turn you all off?
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>> i am obsessed and i love governor tim walz. he is not only over five times one of the hardest congressional districts in the country that he won if rural minnesota over and over and over again, even in 2010. he has also been an excellent governor. one of the most successful of this century in terms of democrat governors. if you want the blue wall, as he football coach that made his high school state champions. he is a, an agricultural worker, a teacher and a veteran. tim walz is the blue wall. he knows how to advance legislation. that's why i would love to see him there. let me be clear. no matter who he picks, i will be supportive. it the only person that i could think of that would really hurt him a lot in my opinion is someone like marjorie taylor
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green. >> that's not good go to happen. people say pick a republican. let's be real. let's keep it real. let me go to you on this. those following the campaign know how obsessed the campaign is with pennsylvania. it is the state that president biden when he was in his polling losing by the most. it is the state that has the largest gap in favor of donald trump if you believe the polls this early which i'm not sure how useful they are. the campaign is concerned about pennsylvania. is that de facto assuming it is shapiro? >> the idea is you pick a candidate that would get you the state or the region. so because it is a border state can help with the immigration issues. shapiro, help with pennsylvania. i believe shapiro can do that. i look at the issue of synergy
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and energy. is there someone who can match her energy? the one thing you don't want is someone had a brings it down. the second thing is, is this person going to be a really strong defender of kamala harris? right? on the campaign trail. on that ticket. is this someone that will be able to come out there and as she prosecutes her case, if you listen to governor shapiro, he is on fire most of the time. so yeah. i think that he represents in many ways some of that energy and helps with pennsylvania. i think he could help with some of the midwestern states as well. i'm swa agnostic on who she might pick. i do think she can all be helpful in some way, shape or form. >> for those concerned about any policy differences that vice president harris might have with any of these guys, agency she's the vice president, whose president does she have to support? the president. whoever would be her vp would
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have to support her policies. if they have policy differences, it wouldn't matter because she would be the policy maker. let's go to the senior citizen and that is donald trump. i'm here in chicago. we now know that he almost didn't take the stage because he didn't want to be fact-checked. god bless rachel scott for trying to do it any way. they were going to issue a statement spilling the beans on that before he finally took the stage. what does it mean that donald trump didn't feel like he could handle being fact-checked in a three-person interview, basically, a forum at nabj but he thinks he can be president again? >> look, he is unfit to be president. if you are not willing to be fact-checked, if you need to be fact-checked, that should immediately disqualify you from being president. if you continuously have to be fact-checked over and over again. and joy, i have to say i think there are a group of people
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tirelessly working on the campaign that have not gotten the credit. i was part of the white dudes as well, and it was all made possible because of black women for kamala. and i have to give that journalist the biggest proms for holding his feet to the fire and not stopping. i was like, that interview when she was grilling him, i can't even say it on tv because of how impressed i was. it's just phenomenal. the work that we're seeing. the black women of the campaign are not getting enough credit. and donald trump coming after kamala for her race shows what a bigot he is. we should be talking about people's records here. this is democracy. that's what we should be comparing. the content of someone's character, not the color of their skin. >> this is the guy that i met so many years ago who was a young high school student. this is why we love him. david has always been woke and
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always giving credit to communities of color. you'll probably be president one of these days. i think people would support you. and yes, i got the see rachel scott today. she was phenomenal and that suit was bad. let me tell you. this is why he would not debate kamala harris. that would be even worse. he will not debate that lady. he couldn't handle that. he couldn't handle her. huh-uh. stunning in new reporting on a new doj investigation into whether donald trump's 2016 campaign illegally received money from egypt after trump's a.g. bill barr raised doubts about it. one of the reporters of that story will be here next. of that story will be here next.
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little before the campaign, and we got along right away. i didn't actually asked him to endorse me but i think if i would have asked, he would. >> from the start of his presidency donald trump hamdi praise on president el-sisi. he led the country to overthrow the democratically elected president from power. during one g-7 trip, he even referred to sisi as his quote, favorite dig tator. while trump may not have asked for his endorsement during his 2016 campaign, bombshell reporting reveals new details about one of the most closely held and secretive federal investigations into something else sisi may have provided trump in the waning days of that cash-strapped campaign. $10 million, which would be in clear violation of federal law. that investigation was being led
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by none other than robert mueller who at the same time was investigating trump's ties to russia. the post reports that investigators identified a cash withdrawal in cairo of $9,998,000. nearly identical to the amount described in the intelligence, and nearly equal to the amount trump had loaned his campaign weeks earlier. a key theory investigators pursued. based on intelligence and international money transfers was that trump was willing to provide the funds to his campaign in october 2016 because he expected to be repaid by sisi, according to people familiar with the probe. one of the people describing the thinking at the time told the post, it wasn't a smoking gun but it was very clear that there was so much smoke and now more smoke. there must be a fair. however, investigators were never able to answer the question of whether trump did in fact accept an illegal campaign donation from sisi because they
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were blocked at the department of justice in 20 mean the. the case was ultimately shut down. and who is leading the charge is raising doubts? whether there was sufficient evidence to continue the probe of trump? i think you can guess. trump's then attorney general william barr. joining me now, one of the journalist has broke the story. aaron davis, investigative reporter for the "washington post." and jill winebanks, msnbc contributor and friend of the show. i want to start with you, aaron davis. it is a spectacular report. there is so much in it. talk about how the $10 million, or nearly $10 million transfer from this bank in egypt was flagged by the justice department in the first place. >> that's really interesting. we found that the first inkling of this transaction came to the u.s. government through his
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intelligence community and through an informant, in fact, that flagged that this transaction had been initiated. then we found the cia had corroborated parts of this intelligence and sisi's intent to send that money. those two pieces combined were what really put the mueller investigative team, put this in their crosshairs. they referred to it as team ten. the maul probe referring to the $10 million coming from egypt, and then once they found that nearly $10 million being withdrawn from an account, not just any account but linked to the intelligence service. the egyptian version of the craft. it really solidified the need of investigators to move forward with haste. a second whole round of vehicles after maul. >> and how did barr wind up
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shutting it down? it felt like investigators felt there was something there because there had been this $10 million that trump loaned his campaign when they desperately needed it. he had not been resisting spending his own money. suddenly he gets this loan and then almost this exact amount of money was from egypt. >> as soon as this case is no longer under the purview of mueller, when the special counsel's office shuts down, this is now in the normal stream of how the doj works. in every case, to move up through the chain of command. this case was handled differently because it was the president potentially involved in this case. normally, in any case that could come anywhere close to the white house goes to the attorney himself to review. in this case, because it was not a special counsel operation, it went straight to barr. and there was the then u.s. attorney who brought it to him.
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she said to agents as we understand it, i will support a limited subpoena for additional trump bank records. they could see all this money leaving egypt. they wanted to see if it showed up on the other side of the ledger in trump's bank accounts. it was after that that at his instruction, she reviews the original cia intelligence. starts to requestion whether they should move forward. barr takes the additional step of going to the fbi director and telling them, tagts, some of which came from the operation and said that you need to impolls some adult supervision on he's the agents. >> there's a piece, let me read a little of this reporting. in the years since the egypt case was closed, it has been laid bare by the bribery
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conviction of, dot, dot, dot, senator menendez who was recently convicted. over the course of his presidency, donald trump shifted u.s. policies in ways that benefits the egyptian leader, a plan he once called his favorite dictator. they released 195 million in aid. a move that was opposed by his first secretary of state followed by the recent $1.2 billion. so donald trump reversed president obama's policies toward egypt. if this transaction happened, there was a quid pro quo, it feels like. >> that's bribery. if you do a quid pro-quo and you make changes in advance and make changes in policy, that was almost $2 billion that got released to egypt despite the human rights violations and despite policy. it was a change probably influenced by the receipt of money. there is no real proof because
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the investigation was cut off. if they had been able to get the bank records and to a wider scope, mueller had kept the scope very narrow in terms of the timing. they didn't look after he became president. but why not? they didn't go until far enough out to see that he might have received that money. we'll never know because the statute of limitations has run. >> what do you make of the fwlakt merrick garland came in, his justice department didn't pick it up? >> there was a report that they were never briefed on this case. there's a lot of stuff going on in the department of justice. >> but the january 6th cases were the primary focus at that point. >> all the january 6th, not just the january 6th against trump but all -- they had to spend time on that. if they didn't get briefed on something as important as a potential other, and remember, maul shut down his office because his agreement was to
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focus on russia. and they had finished that. once they finished that, they turned the case that was still under investigation, this egypt case, back to the department of justice, appointed by trump. and think of the position she was in. investigating her boss. that's why we have special counsel and that's why special counsel are allowed to be appointed by the attorney general. >> that is the white house. i think the white house is in jeopardy if he is re-elected and i'm celebrating the release of the hostages from russia and the accomplishment of harris and biden getting them out of russia. >> indeed. excellent reporting, mr. davis, and jill, my friend, thank you so much. coming up, the latest on the tragic sonya massey case, the many questions of how the deputy was charged with murder. was charged with murder.
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they called me at 5:00 in the morning after i dropped my dad off at work and they told me that my mom has been shot in her eye. they didn't know who shot her. all i'm doing is asking, who
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shot her? who shot her? all they would say is somebody shot her. i never in the world would have thought the police shot my mom. how? how? >> that's malachi massey, the teenage son of 36-year-old sonja massey who was fatally shot inside her own home by a sheriff's deputy on the 6th of july after police responded to her 911 call about a possible intruder. her mother donna had warned dispatchers that her daughter sonya was having mental health issues and asked that they not send combative police in the event she called. >> i don't want you guys to hurt her, please. >> okay. i've got some questions i've got to ask you. does she have a weapon? >> please don't send no combative policemen that are prejudiced, please. they will kill her. >> they will just do their job. >> graphic body cam video the following day when combative
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police responded with deadly force slows the moments before and after sonya massey's death. >> the county sheriff's deputy who you hear in the video and who pulled the trigger was charged with murder and was fired last month. but in the three weeks since sonya massey's death, the investigation into how grayson got his job have found that he admitted to having two dui arrests. one leading to being discharged from the army for misconduct. a serious offense. he worked in six different departments in four years and he had been reprimanded for inaccuracies in his police reports including failure to follow orders from a senior
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leader and to a lack of integrity. all of which raise critical questions about the vetting process in the sheriff's office. maggie spoke with the sheriff. >> if that happened today and you had all that information about a different candidate, same candidate, same situation, would you hire a person in a similar situation? >> it's a hypothetical. it is difficult to answer. nothing can be exactly the same. i have to look at every case in the totality. every person getting all the information i have. i don't want to go back and say what i would have done. i didn't have that information. >> joining me now, nbc news washington correspondent janelle griffith who has been reporting extensively on the sonya massey killing. let's talk about miss massey. she was obviously having a mental health crisis. she called police. it is chilling that her final words before she was shot are i rebuke you in the name of jesus. how is her family processing the
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news about what a long and sordid history this deputy, sheriff's deputy had, and just her loss? >> her family is struggling and they're calling for the sheriff, for him to resign. they said the entire sheriff's office failed sonya and that this deputy sean grayson shouldn't have been hired in the first place. if he had not been haired, perhaps a different deputy would have responded and the outcome would have been different and she would be alive today. >> the fact that she called for help and wound up dead. we can show sean grayson's mug shots. he was charged with dui twice. he pleaded guilty after being charged in 2015. now let's show another incident. this is an incident in which he defied direct orders from his superior officer.
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>> how are you still employed by us? >> i don't know. >> official misconduct will land you in jail. i am calling you on your integrity. how does that make you feel? >> i'm learning from it. >> this man was driving at 110 miles per hour before striking a deer he was told not to pursue. he did it anyway. how was he still employed by any police department after all that he had done? >> joy, that's a great question and one that the sangamon county sheriff talked about yesterday. he said he wasn't aware of those disciplinary items in his file from logan county. he said it simply wasn't provided to him. it begs the question why didn't he seek it out? if i was able to obtain that record as a journalist, how did he not dig deeper as the sheriff of this entire county?
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why didn't he know more about this man that he haired and entrusted to protect the public? and this is directly why many people beyond just sewn ya's family and their attorney are calling for him to step down. they feel like sean grayson had a lot of things in his past that were questionable. and at a minimum, should have been on the radar in sangamon county. for him to admit that he didn't even know about it, the interview with him raised more questions than it answered in some ways. >> yeah. it's one of the reasons people would like to see the george floyd justice and policing act passed. i guess may last question to you, you've spoken with the family. how is malachi? how is sonya's son doing? how are they doing? >> they're not doing well. her mother has done very few interviews and her children, they said that they were very close to her. the family knew that she would
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sometimes have incidents where her mental health was not at its best but they never imagined that a calm for help would end, the result would be her layoff ending. they feel like they're just in shock. and they want not only sean grayson to be held accountable but the sheriff's office to be accountable. there needs to be more than just a conviction for sean themselves want better vetting to be in place so this doesn't happen to any other family. >> yes, indeed. these are all reasons we have to all participate in the electoral process and understand who you're getting as sheriff. some of them are elected officials and officials all up and down the ballots. and please pass along to the familycondolences, please. if you get a chance to speak with them again. coming up next, president biden secured the release of four u.s. prisoners.
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from the federal government. the funds were set aside in biden's inflation reduction act. legislation that's part of his enormous legacy on climate change and his massive investment in infrastructure and employment. he's checked a lot of boxes over the last three years since he's always been bold on policy and we're seeing the payoff in every area. that includes his big move on foreign policy, working to rebuild nato alliances and thursday's major victory. the multination prisoner swap that secured the release of three americans and one u.s. resident who had all been wrongly detained in russia. overnight, their safe return to the u.s. brought a series of emotional reunions. president biden and vice president kamala harris were there on the tarmac last night at joint base andrews to welcome businessman paul whelan, the former marine detained since 2018 when he visited russia for a friend's wedding. the journalist, reunited with her daughters. today is her daughter miriam's
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13th birthday. the family had tickets to taylor swift's tour but this was a better gift. and standing by, evan gershkovich reunited with his mother who spent the last 16 months working tirelessly to secure her son's release. joining me, the columnist. charles, i want to start with the farmer settlement. it didn't get the most ink but it's significant. people assume rural voters are all white. but there are black rural voters who have been pretty angry about the lack of these federal loans, et cetera. this is a big deal. >> it is a really big deal. they've been waiting on there money and it has been held up. and this is all to me part of what i'm calling biden unbound, right? so it shows you what a politician is able to do when they are no longer on the
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pressure of having to worry about re-election and how it polls. what does your conscience tell you to do when you don't have to worry about being re-elect? these are the kinds of things that would you do. a prisoner swap might cause, ruffle feathers, people can weaponize it because who did you let go of, who did you pay? when you don't have those considerations, you do what your conscience tells you is the right thing to do. that becomes really important and that is what we're seeing here. and it makes you wonder, what would more politicians do if they weren't thinking about how do i get re-elected? how do i raise the money? how do i get the swing voter? how do i convince the people in this county to vote. >> it's freed biden. in great britain, elections are like six weeks long. so you wonder if we always had elections that always started in
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july as opposed to a year earlier. politicians might extend their freedom a little bit more. let talk about the prisoner swam. this was a pretty big deal. this was joe biden using his inherent skill, his relationships around the world. something that donald trump really whined about and said how many money did we pay? he couldn't even express joy about it. you can't imagine him singing happy birthday to that 13-year-old girl. i'm not sure he's ever smiled or laughed or expressed any happiness. what do you make of biden's sort of foreign policy run here? >> well, you know, we've heard for months if not years here, talking about his cognitive decline, that he wasn't in charged. we've learned in the last 24 hours that he was very, very much involved in this very complicated deal that took months to pull together. it involved him calling the german chancellor, the slovenian
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prime minister when needed. he's not there on a day to day level but he was there signing off on this. very much in command. this is very much his deal. he's making good on a promise he kept to get evan and others out. and i think it slows when you have a good set of alliances, you can get more done. the germans were very, very reluctant. for good reason, to let this russian hitman, an assassin, go, he committed a murder in broad daylight in central berlin. but biden convinced them to be part of this deal. first they thought it would get navalny out. he died in that russian >> through much of his time in public office.
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>> yeah, jd vance had silly comments about it. he said donald trump is coming back to office, so i think these guys are trying to clean up their stuff before the king comes back. whatever, man. but there is a different jd vance sound that i want to play. mother jones on earth, i would play for you, david. this is a jd vance sound, and he is talking about aoc. >> turns out i got in big trouble for that one. look. my basic view is that if the republican party, if the conservative movement stands for anything. and i am running as a politician trying to advocate for what we should stand for, the number one thing that we should be is pro babies and pro family. aoc has said, basically, if you look at her public remarks on this, that it is immoral to have children because of climate change concerns. right? this is, let's just be direct, a sociopathic attitude towards families. >> david. he is trying to
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squirm out of the cat ladies thing. >> yeah, first of all, it's not exactly what she said. so it is a false charge to begin with. but it is part of this haranguing, this rant that he was on for many years about leaders, particularly democrats not having kids, and therefore not being able to be good leaders, because apparently, in his view, they don't have a stake in the future. now, he picked out a few democrats who did not have children, but when i look at democrats, whether it is barack obama, the clintons, joe biden, nancy pelosi, chuck schumer, hakeem jeffries, i see lots of kids. i see kids and grandkids. so it is just a false attack. but yet, he has been obsessed with this issue. cat ladies, democrats not procreating, people who don't have kids shouldn't have as many votes as people who do
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have kids. you know, democrats are calling it weird. i think it is bizarre. to call aoc sociopathic because she talked about climate change and how that might affect whether people want to have children shows that he is not really good at reading comprehension, and that he is really willing to say anything to be a far right warrior. >> and the reality is, he is now defending whether or not he is weird. that is the new sound, they are like we are not weird. but you know what is weird? that the republicans are obsessed with making women bear children, but democrats are interested in kids getting school lunch, kids getting preschool, and healthcare. >> and also, republicans can't create a culture in which it is dangerous to have a child and then blame people for not wanting to bring a child into that environment. you can't campaign against sensible gun laws so the kids are having to go to school with
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bulletproof backpacks on and do drill every day, and then look at a young person and say why don't you want to bring a child into that? you can't ignore climate change, let the world literally be on fire, and say why would you want to be a child in that? it doesn't make sense. it does not add up. they are creating a world that is hostile to children. >> absolutely. because it is all about controlling women, not about kids. stick around, we are going to play our favorite game, who won the week, when we come right back. back. or genital yeast infections, and low blood sugar. a rare, life-threatening bacterial infection in the skin of the perineum could occur. stop taking farxiga and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of this infection, an allergic reaction, or ketoacidosis. ♪ farxiga ♪ here's why you should switch fo to duckduckgo on all your devie duckduckgo comes with a built-n engine, like google, but it's r and doesn't spy on your searchs
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we made it to the end of another week, which means it is time to play our favorite game. yes, who won the week? back with david corn. who won the week? >> well, you go back to joe biden, this very collocated prisoner swap. i loved it when trump started talking it down in a reporter asked biden about it, and he said well, why didn't he do this when he was president, when paul whelan was a prisoner. another time the joe biden not just talk the talk, but walked the walk. it is a big win. it is just a big win. but i know there was another big win of this week. >> there is another big winner, and charles is going to tell us who that is. >> my winter for a second week in a row is kamala harris. she keeps riding a wave of enthusiasm, and donald trump and his campaign keeps failing to bring her in every way possible, including the most recent one here at a bj, where
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he tried to say that she had never identified as a black woman. i don't know who that was supposed to appeal to, but it appealed to no one. >> someone please tell alpha kappa alpha sorority inc. at howard university, because someone is confused and it is not her. my who one of the week is the kamala harris of gymnastics. simone biles. but i am also going to give the entire u.s. gymnastics team their flowers. simone biles, the most awarded gymnast in history, and u.s. history, after winning nine gold medals. and i loved her post where she said i love my black job. because guess what her black job is? winning gold medals! hate on it if you want to, but she is the greatest gymnast, she is the goat, she is incredible, she is inspiring, and we love it. any thoughts on simone biles, gentlemen? >> i love her black job. >> and they can't take that black job away from her. >> somebody posted the donald trump took barack obama's black job and that he got fired.

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