said it is a memory that will stay with him, knowing that he was the face and the voice of peace for that one moment in time. you know we talk all the time on this show about how divided the country is, how angry people are. but that snoop dog over in paris is bringing us together with love and kindness and celebration and unity, and it is just what this country needs. thank you for hanging out with us on this friday night. remember you can catch the nightcap and again on saturdays at 11:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc, and this is your last chance to get to see me, rachel maddow and a whole lot more msnbc folks in person at msnbc live democracy 2024. tickets are almost sold out for the september 7 event in brooklyn, new york. if you want to go just scan the qr code on your screen to grab those final tickets. but for now i am signing off. i wish you a very, very good night. night.

have you been watching the olympics? if you have, you know that yesterday, simone biles, the american gymnastics phenomenon took home her sixth gold medal for team usa. biles' earlier battle with mental health led her to withdraw from the team competition at the tokyo olympic ins 2021. and now, as of yesterday, simone biles is officially the greatest of all time. the goat, the most decorated u.s. gymnast in history. she chose to redirect a little of her spotlight onto donald trump. not in a good way. earlier this week, if you recall, trump doubled down on his claim that immigrants are

taking what he called black jobs. he was speaking to the national association of black journalists. and today, simone biles turned trump's comment on its head celebrating her olympic victory with a tweet saying i love my black job. that clap back is the capstone to what has already been a very bad week for donald trump. by contrast, trump's opponent kamala harris is having what would be called even impartially a banner week. starting yesterday, the democratic party has been holding its virtual roll call to select its nominee. as of this afternoon, vice president kamala harris has secured the necessary 1,976 delegate coats to become the democratic nominee. technically, she does not become the nominee until the

roll call finishes wednesday. but this is the unofficial mile marker she has to pass. >> i am honored to be the presumptive democratic nominee for president of the united states. and i will tell you the tireless work of our delegates, our state leaders and staff has been pivotal in making this moment possible. so, of course i will officially accept your nomination next week once the virtual voting period is closed. but already, i'm happy to know that we have enough delegates to secure the nomination. and later this month, we will gather in chicago united as one party. where we are going to have an opportunity to celebrate this historic moment. >> so the nomination is hers. and so is a very sizable war chest. this week, both campaigns released their fund raising totals for the month of july. now remember, kamala harris on

entered the presidential race at the top of the ticket on the third week of july. and the harris campaign still raised a record shattering $310 million. that is more than double the $139 million raised by the trump campaign after a wave of donations following the trump assassination attempt and the republican national convention. those were not small things. this means that the harris campaign now has more total cash on hand than the trump campaign. and that's all before democrats hold their convention in chicago later this month which is almost certain to continue what is being called the kamalamomenon. and even before that happens, harris has yet another opportunity to generate more enthusiasm. by early next week, vice president harris is expected to announce her highly anticipated choice of a running mate. nbc news reports that the final

contenders for that position are pennsylvania governor josh shapiro, minnesota governor tim walz, illinois governor jb pritzcer, andy beshear and pete buttigieg. so keep practicing that phrase. kamalanomenon. they are feeling very positive about the momentum here. polling expert nate silver officially changed his assessment saying he no longer believes that donald trump is favored to win this race. he now considers this contest a tossup. the harris campaign is clearly looking for expanded paths to victory. potentially opening up the electoral map to include some of the states that barack obama won in 2008 and 2012. and they have assembled just the team they have done to do

just that. kamala harris hired several of the legendary veterans of obama's campaigns to help round out her own campaign staff. they include david pluff, obama's former campaign manager. stephanie cutter, and jennifer palmieri, communications director for barack obama and hillary clinton. for each day it becomes clearer that the thing the internet has dubbed the kamalanomenon, that thing is real and that thing is showing no signs of going anywhere any time soon. the new york times michelle goldberg who traveled to the rally in atlanta interviewed people in the crowd. she spoke to one 56-year-old woman of color named tracy naylor who explained what she was seeing in her community since kamala harris rose to the top of the ticket. i'm telling you something, she said goldberg. i go on my walks and see women of color and we just look at each other and we just smile.

like yeah, sis, we got this. we got this. joining me now is michelle goldberg. opinion columnist for the new york times and shawn allen. i was struck by the anecdotes you have in your latest column about kamalanomenon. a phrase i'm still practicing to little success, but can you talk to me about what owe saw on the ground. >> there is this incredible outpouring of enthusiasm. it is something you could only learn by being there. this is a huge auditorium. we are not used to seeing in this race these kind of massive

rallies, 10,000 people. every seat full. people were lining up. the first person i spoke to was a pre-k teacher who previously told me she had not been planning to vote. now not only is she planning to vote now, she is going to her first political rally. several people i spoke to were at their first rally or second rally because she had previously gone to an event that beshear held for harris a couple of days previously. so there really is this energy that has been unleashed. democrats no longer have to carry the burden of propping up a candidacy that seemed increasingly untenable to them. but for a lot of people just kind of connect with kamala harris. a lot of younger people, people of color connect with kamala

harris in a way they couldn't necessary connect with joe biden. >> i want to get to the differences between the 2020 kamala harris and the 2024 kamala harris. john, from a political campaign strategy standpoint, the fact that the harris campaign is bringing on mitch stewart and david pluff and stephanie cutter and jennifer palmieri. how do you read the tea leaves on that? they might just recreate that ground swell of magic for the democratic party last seen in the obama years. >> now that she has been effectively kamala nominated if you will, kamala harris has to figure out how to go out and win. i'm sure the folks working for president biden before felt like they were the a team. it is not that uncommon at this point in the calendar basically where you normally would be moving from a primary to a general election to bring in

some folks. we will see if this is a last hurrah for these folks coming in or a moment of glory where they come back in and have a comeback. we have seen a lot of comebacks with the olympics this week. and i think that is what they are hoping to do with kamala harris to continue this momentum she has had. >> yeah. feels like the democratic version of the cheers bar where it's like norm! a figure you see a lot on this network. michelle, but to the notion of years past versus today. kamala harris is a different candidate than she was in 2020. and the landscape is different. i felt like there were a number of factors that led to her, this ground swell of excitement. chief among them seems to be she has gotten more comfortable with her past. and the landscape in 2024 is more dire on a host of issues that she has been out front on

like abortion. that landscape is really different than it was in 2020. do you want to talk about the differences you see between her then and her now? >> sure. well, obviously, i think that she was uncomfortable trying to stake out this lane on the left along we elizabeth warren and bernie sanders back in 2020. you saw her kind of try to take positions on things like single payer health care but coming up with plans that were really complicated trying to thread the needle because she didn't actually believe in doing away with private health insurance. you know, this is someone who before, she was a national political figure, when she was a california political figure, was fairly centrist at least by california standards with someone who believed for example that public safety was a precondition for any chance at criminal justice reform. and so i think the environment right now where there is much

less appetite for ideological battles in the democratic party is much for conducive to that. the other thing i want to say and i wrote this in my column, this is the first time we are ever seeing this kind of unabashed enthusiasm for a woman presidential candidate. with hillary clinton, there wasn't this sort of enthusiasm. but even the women who really, really were excited for the first women to have a major party nomination, a lot of them felt like they had to keep it to themselves. they organized in a facebook group. but it was secret. it was invite only. i remember talking to women after the election who were shocked and motivated to get politically involved because they were so horrified. they would say things like i didn't even know there were other democrats on my block, now you have none of that, you have people being joyful and buoyant and proud of their nominee in a way we haven't

seen, in a way we didn't see in 2016. >> yeah. you have cultural spokes people around the world echoing that enthusiasm. it is just a kamalanomenon. i'm getting better at saying it. in a way we haven't seen with certainly any other female presidential candidate. like many other presidential candidates period. john, you know we talk about whether what kamala harris is, what makes her different now versus 2020. that she is less concerned about the progressive wing of her party than she has been or was in 2020 and i wonder, a, if you agree with that, and b, how you think that filters into her decision making around her running mate. you have some new reporting on who is in the mix there and what might happen. can you talk a little to that end? >> there are a few things at work here. number one, she was on a ticket that pushed back on the left.

particularly when it came to law enforcement, police reform, and spending on police. that was a major issue during the summer of 2020. joe biden, you know, effectively said i'm not going as far as the left wants me to go here, she watched that worked for him. she has been in an administration that has sometimes appealed to the left or center. there are issues where they are not appealing to the left so there is some experience in that. i think the major difference for kamala harris between 2019 or 2020 and now, is that she has been in this role now for basically four years as the understudy to a president of the united states. that has given her an opportunity to hone her speech making skills and her behind the scenes political skills. to deflect bad questions and answer good questions the way she wants to. she has developed in this role. so that is important too. i don't know who she will pick

for a vice presidential candidate. but she will probably look to do no harm and probably as important if not more important, is trying to keep the energy and enthusiasm that she has right now. and that will be a tension point with what you are talking about in terms of the progressive wing of the party. the progressive wing of the party has come out very loudly against josh shapiro, the governor of pennsylvania. and there are some issues there. one has to do with israel and his support for israel and the way he talked about protesters on campus. another issue is labor. they don't like what he did with regard to charter schools. and what he would call school choice. so there is a moment here we will find it. find out to the progressives, to they win by knocking down this candidate in pennsylvania or get brushed back a little bit by kamala harris? i know one thing her campaign is saying a lot right now is that she is a pragmatist. that's a way of trying to narrow the gap between what she

said before and what her policies are going to be in the future. >> got to keep the main thing. great to speak with you both. thank you for your time this friday night. still to come this evening, block buster reporting about a secret investigation into whether donald trump's 2016 presidential campaign got a gigantic and illegal cash infusion from a foreign government. we will get the details from the washington post. plus, happy birthday jd vance? as the republican vice presidential candidate turns 40, the internet has gifted the rest of us by digging up even more of jd vance's controversial past. that is next. versial past. that is next. ugh, when is my allergy spray going to kick in? -you need astepro. -astepro? it's faster, bro. 8x faster than flonase. it's faster, bro! it's faster, bro! it's faster, bro! it's mom to you. astepro starts working in 30 minutes. astepro and go!

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even more surfaced audio from his past. a 2021 podcast appearance where he calls pregnancies resulting from rape or incest inconvenient. >> should a woman be forced to carry a child to term after she has been the victim of incest or rape? it is not whether a woman should be forced to bring a child to term, it is should a child be allow today live though the circumstances of that child's birth are somehow inconvenient. >> then there is this 2021 clip where vance takes aim at simone biles after she dropped out of most of the gymnastics competition at the tokyo olympics for mental health reasons. >> did she let down the country? >> it reflects on our therapeutic society that we try to praise people not for moments of strength or heroisms

but for their weakest moments. >> just for the record, simone biles said yesterday she went to therapy right before winning the all around gold medal and became the most decorated american gymnast in olympic history so i'm not sure what that says about our therapeutic society or jd vance for that matter. at least one person in trump's orbit predicted that picking vance as a running mate would not go smoothly and really wanted it to happen. kenlyanne conway reportedly said that trump would have to pick vance quote over her dead body. so happy birthday jd. joining me now is mark caputo who is responsible for the scoop about kellyanne conway. i'm fascinated by the schism coming to public light inside trump world over the pick of jd vance and your reporting sheds a lot of light there. one of the things kellyanne

conway, a flag she was raising earlier, she didn't think he had been thoroughly vetted and she is a bit of a cassandra on that. are you surprised by the vet process as it has seemingly reared its head, if you will, in the jd vance nomination? >> well according to the trump campaign, and kellyanne conway, they expected anyone picked by trump to just sort of get dog piled. that having been said, one of the things she had said behind the scenes was that marco rubio who had been vetted more thoroughly because he had already run for president and is a three term senator or doug burgham were more safe picks. and therefore, she sort of advocated for them much more behind the scenes than vance. one of the interesting things about this moment in time is in my process of reporting out whether or not the reports were true that trump allies were already sort of growing cold to

the idea of vance for a pick, i couldn't find a lot of evidence for that. look, we don't think that, but kellyanne conway is out there saying this about the vice presidential pick of truck and trashing the campaign as well. now she denies that. but what it tells us is this. just as in 2016 and during his white house tenure and 2020 bid, donald trump had a campaign and a structure characterized by in fighting and back fighting. and a lot of skull dugger reunion and back stabbing and those old bad habits are coming back to haunt the trump effort. now how long that lasts and how deep and serious it is, we don't know. but it is clear for the first time and the most serious time for the trump campaign, they feel like they are a little bit not back on their heels. that is, in the primary when he had an assassination attempt and stood trial in criminal and civil matters, it wasn't as

serious a time for this in the campaign. >> yeah. i mean, and it is out in the open. and it is not by the way just trump operatives right? you make a point of mentioning the tucker carlson tweet where he goes after lindsey graham. let's get the tweet up on the screen. lindsey gram is a liar. this is tucker's tweet. no one lobbied harder against jd vance than he did. this is why everyone hates washington because people like lindsey graham are happy to lie to your face smiling as they plot your destruction. it's disgusting. what is it about, do you have a sense about why jd vance is the hill that various factions of trump world seem ready to battle on? seems like a catalytic moment for the trump team and to some degree, the republican firmment around the trump team. >> well trump liked jd vance the most out of the various candidates. he had the closest personal

relationship with him. and trump's son and name sake don jr. advocated strongly for vance, in addition to that, vance has had more of that in their words that america first maga mind set and ability to carry their message forward. some of those clips you played from those podcasts of yore which are now coming back to haunt him are what the maga base want to hearment those are a lot of the america first policies and discussions. in tone that they want to adopt going forward. that's what they wanted and that's the candidate they got. and now they are going to be tested to see how well that fares in this general election. >> well right. we are pivoting to the general now. we are not in the primary season. it is project 2025, too, where there seem to be i don't know what the term is. some trepidation about how hard the bear hug has been from maga world.

trying to distance themselves from project 2025. >> one of the dirty little secrets is that the campaign was good at messaging but biden isn't. they found some unpopular measures about abortion. incidentally, the things about abortion in project 2025 aren't what donald trump is campaigning on. so they were separate. they were opposed to the candidate. and, the biden campaign did a good job of hanging that around trump's neck even though for instance, he says he didn't support a nationwide abortion ban. he wouldn't sign one. never theless, project 2025, he got saddled with that. and eventually it became untenable for them and they got sick of it and finally, i wouldn't say the plug was pulled on it but the trump campaign had sent enough messages to say look, this is no longer us, you need to stop it and they stopped it. now the problem with that is there are a lot of former trump

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announcing his campaign for the white house in 2016 was that his campaign would be totally self-funded. that of course was not true. he only self-funded about 20% of that campaign and turned to donors and superpacs to pick up the tab when ever possible. >> i wrote a check for $10 million. i'm spending money like crazy. >> the washington post is out with breathtaking new reporting that paints that last minute $10 million cash infusion in a whole new light. the u.s. government had classified intelligence indicating that the egyptian president tried to give trump $10 million to boost his campaign at almost the exact same time. in september of 2016, candidate

trump who was already talking about the infamous muslim ban met at the sidelines of the general u.n. assembly for a closed door meeting with the egyptian president. >> he is a fantastic guy. took control of egypt and really took control of it. i thought it was a great meeting. we met for a long time actually. we had a long meeting. and got along. there was a good chemistry there. you know when you have good chemistry with people. it was a good feeling between us. >> about a month after that meeting, trump cave the campaign his $10 million check. then five days after that, the washington post reports that a bank branch in cairo received an unusual letter from an organization linked to the egyptian intelligence service. it asked the bank to kindly withdraw nearly $10 million from the organization's account. all in cash. inside the state run national

bank of egypt, employees were placing bundles of bills into the bags. four men arrived and carried away the bags reported as weighing a combined 200 pounds and containing what was then a sizable share of egypt's reserve of u.s. currency. now there are a few incredibly important pieces of context here. one is that this kind of cash transaction being a potential bribe from the egyptian government is very much within the realm of possibility. new jersey senator democrat bob menendez was just convicted last month of charges of accepting hundreds of thousands of dollars of bribes in the form of envelopes full of cash and literal gold bars. cash and gold bars that came from egyptian intelligence agents from the same agency involved in this nearly $10

million cash withdraw. the other key piece of context is the egyptian president is not as trump put it a fantastic guy. he is an authoritarian despot who overthrew egypt's government with military force and stayed in power with sham elections since then. despite that fact, he was one of the first guests president trump invited to the white house and one of the first foreign leaders trump met with on his very first international trip. throughout all of his presidency, trump cozied up to him despite al sisi's brutal crackdowns on political opposition and his blatant consolidation of power and his disregard for human rights. at one point trump was overheard calling him his favorite dictator. clearly there is more than one. so all of this, the classified u.s. intelligence that he tried to give trump $10 million.

all of this is red hot. so why are we just learning about it now? well, the other half of this incredible new piece is how federal prosecutors investigated all of this for years and then knowing everything i just laid out, trump's attorney general bill barr seems to have made that investigation just go away. one of the reporters who broke the story joins me coming up next. s me coming up next. olay retinol24 renews millions of surface skin cells while you sleep. wake up to smoother, younger-looking skin with olay retinol24. i still love to surf, snowboard, and, of course, skate. so, i take qunol magnesium to support my muscle and bone health. qunol's extra strength, high absorption magnesium helps me get the full benefits of magnesium. qunol, the brand i trust.

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back in 2018, in the middle of the muller investigation into russian interference in the presidential election, the dc courthouse was filled daily with reporters looking for clues. looking for leads. but on december 14th of that year, something happened that made it decidedly much more difficult for those reporters to do their jobs. that day, court officials mysteriously shut down an entire floor of the federal courthouse. restricting access to both the press and the public. reporters assumed at the time all the cloak and dagger maneuverings were related to russia. but we learned it was about a separate investigation looking into whether the egyptian government could have backed the millions of dollars that donald trump donated to his own campaign in 2016. and today, in an exclusive and deeply reported investigation by the washington post, we are learning about how a $10

million cash withdrawal at a bank in cairo five days before donald trump was inaugurated intensified that inquiry and the evident to bring that to a close. joining me now, carol, this story is not to be believed. thank you for being here tonight. first, there are a lot of ins and outs. as you understand it from your reporting where did investigators suspect this money may have come from and where were they concerned it might have gone? >> first off, thanks for focusing on this story which was incredibly difficult to report out. includes a lot of sensitivity including where i will start the story. the cia alerted the department of justice in the early part of

2017 they had information from an informant that investigators described as jaw dropping. the evidence suggests the president of egypt was planning and arranging to send $10 million illegally to help donald trump's reelection effort. there was this concern in donald trump's campaign world after the access hollywood revelations, donors were backing away from him. didn't have any money left. it was running on fumes andened his aides were asking him to write a big check of his own money to the account and he would not do it. well, in september, he meets al sisi and at the end of october he writes this check. what the evidence suggested and what led to and spurred the department of justice investigation was that he

wanted to help trump was even at that time promising a great relationship we egypt if he was elected president and they needed to get trump's bank record to figure out did this money, this mysterious money they learned had been withdrawn just as the intelligence suggested from one of the accounts linked to the intelligence agency, this money withdrawn and put in duffel bags in hundred dollar u.s. bills weighing 200 pounds, very large percentage of u.s. bills then in the egyptian currency of all of egypt, did that money that got withdrawn five days before donald trump became president, did it land in donald trump's accounts? the investigators would never be able to answer that question. as soon as they began proposing subpoenas to do this, the u.s.

attorney said that she needed to review this and brief the attorney general. a fairly new attorney general named bill barr. within days of reviewing the intelligence herself, meeting with barr, conferring with him. she returned to investigators and said she no longer believed that this was a good idea. to subpoena trump's bank records. the fbi was so angry that they began preparing their version of an ultimatum. if we can't get bank records, there is no chance of us ever getting to the truth of this investigation. >> yeah. there is so much here. one of the things i'm quite interested in, there is an aspect of money laundering it

sounds like in here. they saw hallmarks of a money laundering investigation. indications of a potential crime that may or may not have been related to an effort to help trump. so there's the effort to help trump. there is actually the source of this money. and then there is the investigation potentially being quashed. what stands out to you as the most disturbing element of what is already a fairly disturbing story? >> i'm not the person to decide what is disturbing. i'm an investigative reporter. i learn about how investigations and sensitive investigations are handled particularly involving high profile people. what my colleague aaron davis and i heard over and over again as we reported this out, looking at people's contemporaneous notes, looking at records from the

investigation. reviewing documents that are still secret, alex. what we heard over and over again, there was chilling jaw breaking intelligence that pointed to a potential money laundering operation and an effort at least by the egyptian president to bribe or compromise donald trump and when the evidence was gathered by muller's team at the very end of the muller probe, when this evidence was gathered of this mysterious cash withdrawal, the amount that he apparently intended to give trump, that document was found, investigators thought we have a lot of smoke here, there has to be a fire, we have to chase it down. but they were stopped. >> well, as you know, the statute of limitations has expired, i think january 15th

of 2022. but it is hard to imagine with reporting like this, that this story ends there. carol, it is bomb shell reporting. thanks for makeing the time tonight. i really appreciate it. >> thank you alex. we have one more story for you tonight. the supreme court has released its strangle hold on special council jack smith's remaining criminal case against donald trump. just in time for the election. more on that when we come back. purple mattresses exclusive gel flex grid draws away heat, relieves pressure and instantly adapts. sleep better. live purple. visit purple.com or a store near you today

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donald trump's 2020 election interference case is now back in judge tanya's district court just in time to become a live issue in the presidential campaign. it has been on hold for months as the supreme court considered trump's claim of presidential immunity. after giving trump unprecedented immunity for what they called core presidential functions, the supreme court kicked back hot button issues to the lower courts. and now this judge will have to decide whether actions in the quote outer perimeter of trump's presidential responsibilities are fair game for the criminal trial or not. joining me now is harry litman, harry, thank you for being here. i think that there is some concern, expectation, preppation about what happens next in this case as it pertains to the coming months right? judge chutkin has to make some

decisions and i wonder given your expertise in the field, whether you think there are actually going to be hearings as she makes these decisions. >> okay, so my short answer here is no. at least as far as evidence hearings go. jack smith putting mike pence on the stand. what did donald trump say to you. but that's going to be heavily fought. she has been given a very hard job, alex, and everything that will be subject to challenge by trump and the supreme court has not given a lot of guidance. what she has to do now is figure out what actions are potentially immune. forget about the legal charges. the conduct, the stories in the indictment. there are five stories trying to get votes from state officials. trying to get doj to lie to georgia and say there is fraud. trying to get mike fence to

violate his constitutional duty. and then trump's own exhortations at the ellipse. and the court has made clear that one and maybe two of those are immune and they have given trump arguments every other place. trump won't want it. so jack smith might propose let's put some people on the stand. but you can read the opinion either way to say you just have to decide on the allegations court. you don't take evidence here. that will be trump's position and remember, he gets to appeal it if he gets adverse rulings because this involves immunity. >> so, what i'm hearing is we are not going to see mike pence trotted into federal court. >> that's my best guess. others disagree. >> okay. but, it sounds like thedlylative process is going to be matter of public record. as it concerns the political reality here, the story of the

2020 election is going to likely be in the news this fall. is that a safe bet? just to understand the impact this could have on november? >> 100%. but in two ways, first the story as laid out in the original indictment. and second, smith may well decide to tailor his indictment and get a shorter story. but the basic allegations will be front and center. yes. >> i'm sorry to be such a laywoman about this. but i didn't go to law school. does the the deliberation process. is there evidence we may get in the course of this deliberation? >> we will see whether allegations are already made or

new witnesses on the stand. my best guess is we will only see it based on allegations. but there will be an effort to proffer witnesses. but everything she says and does i think will be open here in opinions that will then be reviewed. >> it sounds like a extraordinary time for a judge at a time of high political heat. we are talking the closing weeks of the election where the judge will have to effectively relitigate in the court of public opinion what happened. >> and the supreme court. >> harry litman, invaluable perspective on this. thank you for your time my friend. >> thank you alex. >> that is our show for tonight. now it is time for the last word with ali velshi. last word with ali velshi.