right now. right now. a good morning. it is sunday, august 4. kamala harris has been at the top of the ticket for two weeks and sometime in the next two days, we will learn her pick for running mate. there has been reporting on everything from breakfast trips to dog walking. as we know, it is down to these six top contenders and nbc news is learned at least three of them, arizona senator mark kelly, tim walz, and pennsylvania governor josh shapiro are scheduled to meet with her today at her residence in washington according to several people who have been briefed on the plans. donald trump is backing out of a previously agreed upon abc presidential the patent which was set to take place on september 10. in classic trump fashion, he is saying it is harris who does

not want to debate. harris replaced biden at the top of the ticket and now he says he will not participate in the september debate, but adds that harris will surely not debate him in another debate on september 4 in pennsylvania on fox news. an event that was not previously agreed-upon or scheduled and seems to have been invented on donald trump's social media platform. among the reasons he says harris will not debate him, quote, there is no way she can justify her years long fight to cancel the word merry christmas. i will see her on september 4 or not at all. >> he was on a belligerent to social posted spree that began on his flight to atlanta. his first up was a roundtable black business people. notably he did not question anyone's race there. like you did kamala harris at

the national association of black journalists. after the roundtable, trump went to a rally. want to play a bit of what he says. i want to dollars that i hear from you. sometimes you do not like it when we play at length donald trump talking because it is so full of lies and nonsense. but, i think we need to see this. were not playing this for your entertainment. we need to be aware of the man what he is actively and currently saying and how he is conducting himself, for instance, he does not apparently know how to pronounce kamala harris' name. >>, la. about 90 different ways of saying it. she only likes three. was a government to stop people from eating red meat. he was secretive your cows. no more cows. she doesn't want anyone saying merry christmas. now she's denying it.

hillary got bruce springsteen. i never forget. the place is pretty full. not full like our places are full. and i don't have a guitar. i don't have a guitar. >> atlanta is like a killing field. >> you go to the store and you want to buy a loaf of bread, darling. ma'am, i'm sorry, but your husband has been killed. >> if kamala wins, will be crime, chaos, and death. lot coming from the congo, from prisons. warty come from? the congo. what was your address? you lived in prison. what did you do? >> that he got hit by something. maybe it was a hand grenade. then he goes downed. a hand grenade hits in. how do you look? you look great. >> the final riff was about my getting hit by rubber bullet in minneapolis on may 30, 2022. he got my network wrong again and i was hit not by a rubber bullet or tear gas canister but by a grenade. in addition to an extreme amount of nonsense which lasted more than 90 minutes included something the georgia

university ministration was to blame for the arena not being filled because he is preoccupied with crowd size and matching hillary clinton by name eight times, trump endlessly repeated the false election fraud claims one after the secretary of state by name. despite the hatred and the two and endless lies and dizzying amount of digression that people should watch one of these hour plus diatribes. joining me is the center for american progress and former director of the white house office of political affairs. she's the editor of the 19th and and msnbc political contributor. thank you for being with us. let's talk about the speeches. there's a lot of debate about whether people should listen to the speeches or the rallies and how we should cover them. they are difficult to watch both in context and delivery.

they are insane and there people out there who still claim to be undecided about the election or are prepared to vote for donald trump because who lower their taxes or whatever he will do. they need to hear the kooky stuff that he says. >> i agree with you and listen, this was part of the debate about the national association of black journalists convention that i return to in chicago. wild claims and false claims on stage in real time and a lot of people are concerned about it in terms of people who did not want him on the platform. terms your black journalists asking the former president about things that he normally does not as get asked about whether retirement criminal justice reform or immigration or january 6 or his running mate, jd vance. those the first time he was asked to define what a black job is on stage. these are not things he normally gets asked about in front of the friendly audiences that he normally talks to and that we saw him trying to raise

questions about the vice president's racial identity in a room full of black journalists and we saw how well that went. not only was it newsworthy as an interview but it showed voters who the former president is and for people who are still trying to make up their minds, i think it is important for folks to see that. >> patrick, we booked you for really good reasons, you know a lot about the stuff and your love express it happened to be from congo. >> i was to get that maybe had something to do with that. >> he comes up with stuff and you like how did the congo get into the speech? >> he is random and spectacularly offensive at the same time all the time and making sure that we are distracted and with his negative charisma because he does have negative charisma, the we are somehow entertained

by his bizarre claims and were not talking about things like project 2025. the actual record. >> that is the point. he's trying to distance himself from project 2025. his policies are not different from what is in there. ever since we started talk about project 2025, people don't like this. >> not only are his policies not different, the authors of project 2025 are his people and work for him. they are attempting to codify trumpism in the pages that you have he the meat tabs for. your guest was talking about section f and what it means to take civil servants out. the washington post ran an exposi about $10 million that were moved, transferred from egypt that some believe went directly into the trump campaign. trump's department of justice submerge the investigation and it went away. imagine that across the entire government. all of this that is here is about codifying the racism and misogyny and all of the hate, but also about social security and medicare and making certain that the tax cuts the benefit

overwhelmingly the richest people in this country are hardened and set fast into the future. kamala harris' vision is radically different, of course. it is inclusive and it is a conversation that we want to have, but again we're talk about this. >> one of the issues with object 2025 and the reason he is trying to disavow it is that a lot of us are going to project 2025 and fact checking it. fact checking is a big problem for donald trump. the beef apparently that he had that caused the delay that he blamed on equipment failures turns out, according to the president of nabj that he did not want to be fact checked. telling journalists not to fact check him. >> just to go back to the point that patrick was making, the comments that he is making might sound random, but the

not. we know that the former president was looking for a way to get himself back into the headlines after had all of this excitement around vice president harris' roll out over the last couple of weeks. people not been talking about him, especially coming out of what seemed to be a momentum building rnc convention in milwaukee just a couple of weeks before that. he's looking at back into the headlines. he is saying things that are headline grabbing and yes, they are also a distraction from things like project 2025 and you have vice president kamala harris and her democratic surrogates really framing this -- the types of things that he has been saying and that jd vance had been saying. the label is sticking. we have trump trying to turn the tables and trying to call harris weird. i know you are, but when mi is not really a political strategy. might work in your little

brother or sister. everyone in politics know that when you're explaining, you are losing. going back to things like the vice president's alleged war on christmas. he is still searching for a nickname, a gimmick, a device. anything to delegitimize or discredit her. >> this coming out of a place of panic because we are seeing this enthusiasm in democratic ranks of not seen since obama was on the ticket in 2008. kamala harris raised $310 million in one month. she is $59 more cash on hand than him. before field hands like me, the campaign in the last 12 days, since she has been able to seal this up, knocked on over 172,000 doors and made 2.5 million text messages and tens of thousands of volunteers pouring out of pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, who are going door-to-door and going to

markets and having a conversation about the future and what it means for average americans, as opposed to donald trump, who is consumed with himself and his romanticized past. he cannot talk about his record and he cannot talk about project 2025. >> osaka with romanticized past. one of the interest things is that you and i are never going to stop morning -- warning people about the dangers of the next ministration and the dangers to our freedoms and society. we really lean into that. kamala harris is taking this a different direction and i think it is interesting. the reason there out there is not just protection of democracy, but feeling hopeful about vision that she is articulate for the future. >> there could not have been two different campaign rallies happening in atlanta literally in the same venue just a few days apart. kamala harris out there talking to her crowd about what she would do as president in terms of what she would do for them, middle-class families, on the economy, what she would do on

immigration as she continues to address those issues. that is an issue that she has had as vice president addressing the root causes of migration. she's talking to them about what she would do as president and centering the american people in her conversation. what you hear donald trump talking about in atlanta? that laundry list of things that you are describing that he was talking about with his voters over a rambling 90 minute speech that was more of the same that we hear him saying that is kind of heavy on rhetoric, but not that heavy on substance. so, i think there certainly is a lack of clarity in his messaging that you do not see on the other side with her and the very clear message that she is taking to voters that is mobilizing and energizing and not just excited but the candidate, they're excited about what she has to say and ready to get to work for her. to patrick's point about all

the steps that we heard about the momentum she has dealt over the past two weeks, it's not just about the excitement, the small people who are ready to take action. >> thank you for being here. still ahead, we have watch the past two weeks's kamala harris has begun building a new coalition around her candidacy but you might not know the story of another trailblazing woman who predicted decades ago that a coalition light this with some they come together to carry the first woman to the white house. it is obvious why donald trump is trying to distance himself from project 2025, the conservative playbook for second term is deeply unpopular. but he's not running away from the political consequences. he is running away from political consequences, not from the policies themselves. ground shipp from the united states postal service. ♪♪

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a growing list of countries including the uk, u.s., france, and uk and sweden urging any nationals currently in lebanon to leave as soon as possible as the middle eastern conflict materializes. last week in the galilee region, the iron dome air defense system interfered with attacks from hezbollah after killing a hezbollah commander in beirut earlier this week. the strike that killed him itself was in response to a rocket attack on the israeli- occupied golan heights which killed 12 people including children. both u.s. and israel have said that hezbollah was behind the attack but israel can expect a -for-tat with iran. he was in a run for the inauguration of the country's new president. how he was killed was up ford

discussion. "the new york times" reports that a bomb was stashed away in a guesthouse that he is known to stay at two months before the assassination then detonated remotely while he was in the room. iranian revolutionary guard yesterday said it was a rocket fired at the building, not a bomb. iran has vowed retaliation and hamas has begun the process of picking someone to replace him as he manage the ongoing cease- fire talks over the war in gaza. inside gaza the war raises on. the israeli airstrike hit a school sheltering palestinians in gaza city, killing 15. joining me now is matt bradley in beirut. it is good to see you. hezbollah and iran are poised to retaliate against israel soon, possibly within the week. what is the latest with the attacks look like and what they are preparing for? >> that is right. they have their own grievances. as blah had one of their own assassinated in beirut where i am now. iran endured the assassination of a hamas leader that they

blamed on the israelis. there are a lot of worries that this will break out into a regionwide war and that this is going to come not from iranian proxy groups throughout the region, the so called axis of resistance, the patchwork of sponsored militant groups that are inimical to israel throughout all of the middle east, but that it could come from iran itself and from all of these groups. the analyst and the government officials in lebanon that i've been speaking to say that is a real worry though no one knows exactly what is going on in tehran and in the headquarters of hezbollah and whether they will respond in any predictable way. you and i spoke about this a couple months ago back in april when there was the exchange of fire the unprecedented exchange of fire between is ron -- iran and israel. were expecting the very worst. the breakout of a regionwide

war and instead what we got was sort of symbolic strikes one to the other that were meant to put the other side on notice, but not really to cause too much damage. when analyst i spoke with at the time in beirut called it a dance fight. not everyone is not really expecting a dance fight, they are expect a real strike with real injuries and was on the other side. there expecting iran to only be striking from iranian territory but using hezbollah here in lebanon. possible yemen. hamas and the gaza strip and iranian backed militant groups in syria and iraq. this is a real worry that these cats pause and the fingers in the middle east will come together and become one big fist to strike israel. weather net that actually happens, we do not know, but the fact is that hezbollah itself has the capability to really punish israel and to overwhelm a lot of the defenses, whether or not they will use that now, we do not know. >> thank you for your excellent

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i was almost going to say these were going to be wasted. they have taken two books to bind these pages. rumors of the demise have been greatly exaggerated. the director of project 2025 did announce that he is leaving his post last week but he left project 2025 with the intention to focus on getting donald trump back in the white house. it is one revolving door. we do not know exactly what it means. he says he wants to, quote,

direct all my efforts toward winning bigly. saying he knows nothing about the handbook crafted by trump officials but trump is not actually distancing himself from the policies of 2025. look at agenda 47. the name alone draws similarity. agenda 47, because donald trump if elected, would be the 47th resident is a series of proposals for trump's campaign issued on its website. that has massive overlap with project 2025. project 2025 and agenda 47 call for the federal government to abolish climate regulations for the fossil fuel industry, remove civil servants from the roles in the change for clinical appointees. politicize the department of justice by investigating and charging local das for prosecutorial decisions and even deploying the u.s. military on mexico's side of the border to fight cartels.

you cannot put your military and someone else's country without their permission. he's distancing himself from project 2025 in name only. is not running from the policies in the playbook, he is running from the political consequences of it. from the consequences of pushing widely unpopular, decidedly autocratic policies. as rolling stone says comes of example trump getting exactly what he wanted and what he promised to deliver in his first term then being annoyed that the actions are coming back to haunt him at a consequential time. joining me now is the professor of history and global affairs at yale university. author of the upcoming book, "unfreedom". good to see you again. thank you for being with us. this is a tricky one because they wrote down everything they

were going to do and then donald trump goes out to the rallies and says i'm not involved in this and i do not agree with a lot of this stuff and has nothing to do with me, which is actually part of what authoritarians sometimes do. >> he is trusting that his people will believe him, no matter what he says and that is part of authoritarian dynamic where you can bite your own people and say something completely different the next time and they will nod their heads and say i knew it all along. that is part of what it means to belong to that sort of thing. as you have said, the shift is basically a scam. he doesn't have another transition team besides the people who were involved in writing project 2025 and he does not have another transition plan besides what is written down in agenda 47 and project 2025. that is it. that is the thing. there is no other thing. he can try to relabel it, but as you say, what it stands for is quite clear. they're going to wreck the federal government, replace anybody who has any sense of responsibility with the

political appointees and allow what they call the med the straight of satan state to cease to exist which means the federal government cannot do anything for anybody. children don't get food assistance and medicare deteriorates and pretty much everything the federal government does that people use to no longer works. >> want to ask about two conceptual ideas that project 22 five puts forth. one is dismantling the ministry of state. in any functioning democracy, we understand that their political appointees at the head, the ministers and secretaries of state under whom there are expert, career civil servants who know things about things. project 2025 and a lot of conservative theology in the united states wishes to dismantle that and then this concept which you studied in other countries where you install wireless, not experts. two things come together, repeat replacing civil servants and making sure loyalty over expertise prevails is a big

step to getting anything you want if you are the president. >> those are steps toward having a cult of the leader. you tell people government does not do anything for them. that the step one. then make the government do anything for them, creating chaos, which a step two. the new sake, i alone can solve it and in the mess that you are creating and the mess you continue to create, that will have some kind of plausibility because appealing to his clients and try to make some kind of personal connection to the oligarchs will be the only way to get anything done. it all hangs together, making the government cease to work is part of creating the sort of cult around the leader who's meant to be the person can get anything done. >> you're so specific about the ways that you feel individuals can take power in this election. voting is the least of it but all the things you can do. how does the existence of project 2025, which people are spreading news about all over

the place. lots of people are talking about this and is making people worried about the next trump administration. how does the existence of such a specific authoritarian roadmap fit into how you feel people should respond in the next 90 days before an election. >> it makes people rightly uneasy because of what they think they can lose. it makes people rightly concerned because it is so obviously a well-planned set up for an authoritarian regime. it makes people morally uneasy because the ideological backdrop which is not really talked about is a very exclusivist sort of christian nationalism which is no place for people who do not have, from their point of view, the right kind of families and the

right kind of views. people should realize that the thing the document is not about is freedom. it is about dysfunction. is not letting things break. it's not putting pressure on people and bullying people it's not about freedom. the government can work to make us more free by making us feel more safe and giving us a sense of the future. by looking after our health and looking after children. that is part of the american dream and that is the sense of the future which could be more free, which gets tossed out the window with a plan like this. >> it is always a pleasure to talk with you. professor of history and global affairs at yale university and author of the book on freedom. we will be happy to have you on the show to talk about it. we will take a quick break in when we come back, we will continue with more "velshi" . one pill. 24 hours. zero heartburn. you know what's brilliant? boring. think about it. boring is the unsung catalyst for bold. what straps bold to a rocket and hurtles it into space? boring does. boring makes vacations happen, early retirements possible, and startups start up. because it's smart, dependable, and steady. all words you want from your bank.

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you can make expect men in this society, a western society, in which they been traditional and inculcated in the minds of the total population about what women should and must do as to what blacks should and must do. you cannot expect these men overnight to say this. it's coming and i will not be able to stop it. it is coming. >> it is coming. prophetic and powerful from the late shirley chisholm. the woman known as fighting

shirley could sense that the dial of history was turning not just because should move to forward for some american women and minorities seeking higher office. america was grappling with deep civil unrest and upheaval. minority and coalitions were propelling toward a more inclusive future. the daughter of caribbean immigrants, she was born and raised in brooklyn. she encouraged her to run for political office. she said she faced what she called a double handicap. she was both black and female. she went on to pursue a career in childhood education but not content to be slowed down by her double handicap. she worked at the grassroots level founding chapters of the league of women voters. hurt community in bedford stuyvesant urged her to run for

congress. shoe felt called to lead by someone who wrecked my something special in her. a woman should up at her door and handed her an envelope with dollars $.62 inside. the money having gathered by several women in the neighborhood. they wanted her to run. in her hands, she understood that she held her first campaign donation. speaking of jet magazine, she closed the door, sat down, and cried. that moving gesture was all she needed to convince her to run and the first thing she did was assemble at all fema campaign staff. the field was dominated by men who did not take her seriously and all. being female put many more obstacles in my path than being black. defying the odds she went on to win by a 2-1 margin, making

history and continue to face hostility from her male colleagues but will not be deterred. speaking to the near time she said, quote, i'm supposed to be seen but not heard, but my voice will be heard. i have no intention of being quiet. she went on to serve for seven terms in congress introducing more than 50 pieces of legislation and tirelessly advocating for racial and gender equality. she made history by entering the democratic presidential primary. she announced her candidacy in her hometown of brooklyn. >> i'm not the candidate of black america, although i am black and proud. i am not the candidate of the women's movement of this country, although i am a woman and i am equally proud of that. i am the candidate of the people of america. >> her gender became the story after she announced her intent to run. they said a new hat, rather, a

bonnet was tossed in to today. the took legal action and she was led to purchase be in the final debate. on the campaign trail, she focused on building a coalition on the marginalized including the working class. flight by the same groups campaign stops. despite raising $95,000, she managed to get her name on 12 primary ballots, collecting 152 delegate votes. 10% of the total. 56 years after shirley chisholm became the first black woman in congress, and 50 years after chisholm declared it is coming, kamala harris stands as the first black woman to run for president on a major party ticket. harris has already made history feeling a record-breaking $310 million fundraising hall for

july. they breathe new life into the democratic party with two thirds of last month' estimations coming from first- time donors. at stake in the election is democracy itself. speaking last month in new orleans, she reminded us, we each have the power to decide what kind of country we want to live in and as we confront threats aiming to rollback progress for women and minorities, shirley chisholm speaks to us from the grave. i ran because somebody had to do it first. i ran because most people think the country is not ready for a black candidate. not ready for a woman candidate. the next time a woman runs or anyone from a group that they're not ready to elect to the highest office, he or she would be taken seriously from the start. the door is not open yet, but it is a jar. >> joined me to discuss the historic gravity of the moment is one needed tolliver.

she's a host of crooked media's what a day podcast. for all that vice president harris is the candidate representing the advance of democracy in america while donald trump is the opposite of that, there is something electrifying about the moment. about the coalition that shirley chisholm spoke about actually coming together today. >> right. it's coming together and it is coming together in a massive way that i'm not sure that shirley chisholm could have predicted because two weeks ago today, black women kicked things off by organizing online , calling everyone in and calling people together, to address the history we are sitting in and experiencing in real time. what happened after that is the call was replicated by men, black men, white men, white dudes, white women, latinos, and indigenous native people in this country, to show the galveston aspect galvanizing

support for kamala harris. when she called for the marginalized groups to come together to will the collective political power as they went back in 1972, her goal was not to win the election but to influence the democratic platform and make it clear to elected officials that these individuals would not be ignored. similar today, the vice president harris has an opportunity to stand in front of this coalition who is looking to push her to make history again as potentially the first woman elected president of this country. that power has to sustain. the momentum has to sustain and the numbers that you recited earlier are indicative of an initial power. but i think they will sustain because on top of the money raised, on top of all of that, we have new voter registration hitting massive spikes with vote.org same 85% of the donors

are young people. the same people who provided history defying results of her democrats in 1922. that is promising energy. >> what is the difference in what is the same? because, as shirley chisholm faced mockery, people laughed when she would give speeches. love people and i thought she was fantastic but others who didn't, they thought it was a joke. she never -- sometimes she would laugh at back. should not ever respond in a way that felt defensive and now you see donald trump mocking kamala harris on several fronts and kamala harris also brushes it off. >> right, i appreciate you going back to the mockery that chisholm face. came from network executives that decided to not have her on stage on major debates days. came from and even in 1968 congressionally run, saying

should you be home cooking? shouldn't you be take care of your husband? and sadly for members of the democratic party who refused to endorse her and mocked her publicly from the "new york times" to jet magazine. that is why she said her identity of a woman cause more issues for her than her identity as lack because some of the mockery came from the black community. however, what is different now is that people are standing up to the mockery, not only from vice president harris leading the charge, but people are standing up for her, calling out the racism calling out the misogyny. calling the misogyny war and the abuse she is facing and that fortified support is something that is going to carry this election and harris' campaign forward. i think it is interesting when i think about vice president harris and how she was able to respond to that moment of donald trump at the symone

sanders-townsend and conference to say it is the same old show. she's been here before. whether it was serving as district attorney or attorney general of california or only the third black woman senator in a body that is 240 years old. she knows exactly what this is like. she knows what it is like to be the only and the first in a room and she stood up to it. that is why think she will be unfazed by whatever else donald trump throws at her. >> thank you. coming up next, shirley chisholm was the first black woman to serve in a democratic house leadership caucus.

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crockett of texas. former public defender and civil rights attorney. you are in a different place than you sometimes are. sometimes in a place where you have your picture. you making a speech or getting sworn in and shirley chisholm. she's a massive influence on you. >> absolutely. it is great to see you, ali. turley chisholm, if you are a black woman in politics, she is a huge influence and looms over all of us. we are all trying to strive for the type of 42 that she exemplified. it was interesting to listen to talk about how she said that they wanted her to be seen and not heard and she refused to do that. i can recall getting the exact same advice when i was a freshman in the statehouse where the told me, as a freshman, my job was to sit there and be seen and not heard and so, we all look to her for inspiration and i know that the vice president is not entering

this moment without acknowledging the fact that she stands on the shoulders of shirley chisholm and so many others. >> she had a quiet strength about her. almost like an old soul. she knew full well in the 60s and 70s that she was going to hit a ceiling. she was going to hit a glass ceiling, and she did not care that she was going to be mocked for it. today, what we have are a lot of the similar attacks against kamala harris, but kamala harris does not going to not knowing that she can succeed. >> that's exactly right. the vice president has consistently shattered glass ceilings. that is just what she did and honestly if you listen to the naysayers, she would not be where she is today. when you have seen someone like shirley chisholm go out there and say, i'm going to go for it and i'm going to earn delegates and i'm going to end up on

various state ballots, that tells you, you know what? this many years later, i can go even further and that is what we see out of kamala harris. the first time that i had a chance to speak to the vice president one on one, i told her about the inspiration she had in my life because she's the first black female prosecutor that i ever became aware of. we do not have one in the state of texas. as a black female lawyer, most people don't know that my very first race is the one i lost and i was 28 years old and i ran for district attorney and it was because of the influence of being able to see it. this is what we mean when we say representation matters. it's about being able to see yourself in someone else and so, i take the job that i have as a member of congress as one of less than 60 black women who ever had the privilege of swearing into the house, take it seriously because i know there the little girls looking up and recognizing and realizing that this can be a black job. >> was talk about black jobs for second. donald trump stepped on a land

mine by bring it up. it was brought up at the nabj progress note exhalation for what any of the nonsense means we took on the other day and you are the concert or something like that reminded people that the most support black job coming up is --? >> to vote in november. i did the city fast in washington, d.c. and almost 20,000 people were in the crowd. when it comes to the selection, when it comes to honestly any election, we have to go to where the people are. so, that is how i have been successful in the past and i major took that message to the 20,000 concertgoers and made sure that they understood what they are black job was and i made mention of project 2025. so many people in the crowd had already heard about it and i said to those who have not heard of it that they needed to

check into it. >> you're pretty gutsy bring that stuff in a concert. i would assume that was a lot of young people out there. you speak of something interesting. hearing from people that they're hearing about project 2025 from their kids. >> that is good. lesson, i want everyone screaming it from the mountain tops, because it is just that dangerous. here is the deal. i think when president biden was in the race, i was trying to make sure that we were pushing out the message as it relates to project 2025. the beauty of having the vice president in the race is that she is giving people hope and optimism, sue not only are they looking forward to voting against donald trump and project 2025, but they are also hopeful and looking forward to voting for the vice president. i think it is that optimism and that hope that will carry us to win the day on november 5. for those who do not know or if you have any questions, listen, we

are not seeking perfection in any candidates and lord knows, the republicans definitely aren't because of a 34 count felon who has two impeachments under his belt and a whole bunch of other indictments that are pending, and in our community, we look at it and say, how many baby mamas do you have? it could not have been barack obama and somehow ascend to the presidency. but more importantly it is our vice president who will take us to the futures of taking us back. she consistently says we will not go back. we will not go back to the 1960s where so many things were impossible. >> jasmine crockett, thank you so much. democrat of texas. that does it for me. thank you for watching and catch me on saturday and sunday morning. you can catch ali velshi content on youtube. stay. inside with jen psaki starts right now.