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it is good to be back with you on this second hour of chris jansing reports. at this hour, the ticket is set. now, the real work begins. tim walz arriving in pennsylvania moments ago for his first rally as kamala harris' running mate. the big rollout to introduce him to a national audience. we're live in walz's home state as voters act to the swift dissent of their two-term governor. and he may be a former
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social studies teacher but he apparently gets high marks for chemistry. new reporting on his final meeting with harris. and the trump campaign fires up its war room claiming tim walz will release hell on earth. what we know about their strategy for the days ahead. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. we start in philadelphia where we're just hours away from the very first kamala harris tim walz rally of this campaign and it's where we find yamiche who has been following this throughout. set the stage for us, yamiche. >> reporter: now it's official that vice president harris has picked as her running mate minnesota governor tim walz and we understand through reporting here that she made this decision this morning officially she wanted the night to think about it. the reason why she's picking the minnesota governor is a number of reasons including he's an executive dealing with a number of experiences fighting for a
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blue state. he knows how to build a coalition. talk to neighbors. he knows how to bring people together, i'm told, but also, he passed policies that were seen as progressive and appealing to the vice president including the fact that he had a universal school lunch program for children. he also pushed to codify roe v. wade and abortion access in his state. he was also pushing for child tax credit in his states. there's also his biography. he's a teacher. someone who's a hunter and gun owner. also a veteran. of the national guard. he's someone who really feels like someone they can take to other states to the midwest and say this is someone who understands your life. what you're going through. and also, the governing partner, the chemistry part of this. i was told there was real good khem tri in the in-person interview over the weekend. of course, if they win this, they're going to be in the white house together for four years. she also wanted someone, i heard this earlier, that she wanted someone who was going to sort of not undermine her. that was going to be very
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comfortable taking tasks she might assign her vice president. so they're feeling as though tim walz is someone who can do that. a lot of excitement here in pennsylvania and philadelphia as people are waiting with brand-new printed t-shirts by the way. people saying cat ladies for kamala, walz and harris. the t-shirts are already printed so people are very excited to see them make their debut here in pennsylvania. there's a video that was just rolled out, i'm sure you probably have it now. >> you led me in perfectly. thank you. in fact, the video we've been waiting for ever since walz was announced just did get released but it also had a caption by the new running mate and says this. growing up, i learned to be generous toward my neighbor, compromise without compromising values and to work for the common good. kamala harris and i both believe in that common good, in that fundamental promise of america. we're ready to fight for it and like she says, when we fight, we
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win. here's the very first campaign video from harris walz. >> sometimes life is as much about the lessons you learn about the lessons you teach. when i grew up, community was a way of life. my high school class was 24 people. i was related to half of them. i learned to be generous towards my neighbors. compromised without compromising my values. and worked for the common good. my dad was in the army and with his encouragement, i joined the army national guard when i was 17. i served for 24 years. i used my gi benefits to go to college and become a public schoolteacher. i coached football and taught social studies for 20 years and tried to teach my students what small town nebraska taught me. respect, compromise, service to country. and so when i went into government, that's what i carried with me. i worked with republicans to pass an infrastructure bill, cut taxes for working families, signed paid leave into law. i codified abortion rights after
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roe got overturned because go to work for the common good. but enough about me. let's talk about you. because that's what this election is about. your future. your family. and vice president harris knows that. she, too, grew up in a middle class family. she, too, goes to work every day making sure families cannot just get by, but get ahead. we believe in the promise of america in those values i learned in nebraska and we're ready to fight for them. because as kamala harris says when we fight -- >> we win! ♪♪ >> that's tim walz introducing himself to much of america who don't know him. but let's go to where people know him best. in his home state of minnesota and see how they're reacting. is that a white picket fence i see behind you? talk to me about what voters are telling you. >> reporter: this is.
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this is where the governor has been living in his temporary residence i should note here in st. paul and this morning, there was a euphoria in the air as it was described to me. neighbors, residents in the nearby area, clocking here to try to catch a glimpse of their governor that they're so proud of here in minnesota. he has a record of being very balanced across the board with democrats and republicans and as several people reminded me here in minnesota, they raise vice presidents. if you remember walter mondale and hubert humphrey, that is something they're very proud of in minnesota. more of our conversations this morning. what was your reaction to morning when you saw the announcement? >> yeah, yeah. >> thrilled. thrilled. he's a great guy. and he'll bring great things to the national stage. >> he was a teacher. he was a veteran. a legislator. a governor.
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centrist. great communicator. i think the walz and of course i'm biased, he's my next door neighbor. you know, i think he was by far the best choice. >> i think everyone will see him as a welcome vp and hopefully that will help the ticket. >> reporter: you think that will land well in the battleground states? >> it really will. >> reporter: now earlier, highlight nationally this morning just in the field before harris picked her vice presidential candidate, but 71% of americans saying that they weren't familiar with walz. so he has his work cut out for him after he hits the campaign trail this week. those here, i've spent the last week or so here talking to democratic and republicans. democrats do think he has the opportunity. strategists say he has the opportunity to really meet people in the rural areas, battleground states and that could be the challenge.
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that minnesota doesn't necessarily translate to wisconsin or michigan. here in the midwest, people are very proud of their values and minnesota stands out as a more blue pocket. it's one of the states outside of illinois that has reproductive rights protected. that's a big difference in the midwest. i think we'll expect to see some criticism around the fact that walz was governor during the unrest here around george floyd. so that might be a preview of what we see on the campaign trail in terms of criticism. i was at a fund-raiser last night for democrats where tim walz spoke and you could see he was exuberant, excited. and we saw kind of a preview of what his stump speech might look like where he talks about bringing in his neighbors, republicans, giving them an alternative option to trump and he highlighted the way he wants to do that is by highlighting the politics people here in minnesota know best. spreading that politics through joy. so we'll continue to see that as he gets out on the road, but that joy was palpable here.
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>> worth reminding folks that harris didn't make her decision until this morning. he was happy whatever happened. thank you for bringing us to some of his neighbors. for all the talk about the electoral map and balancing the ticket ideologically and fund raising ability, in the end, we're told harris wanted a governing partner most of all. a decision heavily influenced by pure chemistry. what more do we know about why harris picked walz? >> we knew going into today that the vice president placed a premium on competence as a person working in politics, shared values and chemistry. four sources familiar with this process have told our team that the vice president had very strong chemistry with walz when they met at her residence sunday
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and that that was a key factor in the decision she made. she decided to sleep on it overnight. to announce her decision to her team. to president biden. to governor walz. and to everyone else just this morning. that she had chosen him based on some of those things. we know that she also was keen on his executive experience in his second term as a governor of minnesota as well as what he's done to work for working class families according to the vice president's team and people familiar with her process here. she also thought there was great value in the contrast, in some of the differences between her and walz. i want to show you some of the language we're hearing from people familiar with this process and quotes that we've been able to gather through our team's work on this issue. we can put it up on the screen for you here. she says she's urban and young. he's from the midwest and white haired. one source familiar said he's both rural and progressive while being likable and funny with a lot of personality.
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another source went on to say that you have to ask yourself at some point is this someone who you would want to have lunch with every week for four years? we know that vice president harris and president biden have lunch often, if not every week. president biden did the same when he was vice president to former president obama. so that chemistry element here, chris, was really important for the vice president in making this choice. we're going to see them chris cross the country now in the days ahead and for the weeks ahead running up into the november election. we're going to see them spend a lot of time together on the campaign trail and of course, they will still have to face questions. there has been talk already about sort of skeletons in the closet of governor walz and maura referenced some of it there. that's something the trump campaign is going to be trying to hit them over the head with over the next several months. >> as we watch it unfold. thank you for that. in the meantime, the trump campaign is wasting no time going on the attack against
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walz. vaughn hillyard joins us now. what have we seen so far? >> we've seen today jd vance in pennsylvania prebutting the rally tonight that walz is going to make his political debut as harris' running mate at. and you're going to see vance following the duo to michigan as well as wisconsin. they are not campaign rallies that jd vance is holding while donald trump is at his mar-a-lago estate. instead, it's been with a smattering of individual supporters in front of press cameras taking questions. this was vance on his plane earlier en route to pennsylvania in which he was talking about tim walz. it gives you a little indication on what the messaging attempts are going to look like as well as what could be a vice presidential debate. >> i absolutely want to debate tim walz but i want to debate him after he's officially the nominee. and i did call him and
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congratulate him and offered him my best wishes. i think that's the polite thing to do. but would it shock me if the democrats pulled another switchreoo? no, it wouldn't. >> now, vance already had suggested previously that he would debate harris back when she was the vice presidential pick. of course, that is changed and you hear him suggesting that the debate would not take place before the month of september here. but so far, what we've seen in terms of messaging here is a recognition from this republican ticket and republican party, chris, that tim walz is largely unknown to the vast amount of the american electorate so they are trying to paint him and the progressive agenda that he sought to enact in his six years as governor as radical and liberal. of course, this is going to be playing out over the next 91 days and of course, that big debate between walz and vance which we could see come september. >> thank you. coming up in 90 seconds,
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aggressive battleground state blitz with harris' team comparing their schedule to donald trump's one event in montana. and kind of a dig of a question. low energy at real donald trump? one thing is for sure. the attacks are going to be flying over the next 90 days. just take a listen to walz a few days before he was selected. >> how often 100 days do you get to change the trajectory of the world? get to do something that's going to impact generations to come? and how often in the world do you make that bastard wake up and know that a black woman kicked his ass and sent him on the road? >> steve kornacki is at the big board for us. john allen joins. the host of the podcast, maya rupert and senior adviser for the warren campaign. also with us, lincoln project senior adviser and mitt romney's chief strategist for 2012 campaign, stewart stevens.
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what are the things that stand out as the harris campaign figures out how they want to roll him out to the country? >> let's just call up this map we're going to be using a ton over the next 90 days. the six core battleground states. what you're hearing from democrats here is that this idea that walz, from minnesota, there were signs when biden was still in the race, that it could get competitive. maybe walz has demonstrated an appeal in minnesota that could resonate in small towns, in blue collar areas. next door in wisconsin. maybe a little bit in michigan. maybe even pennsylvania. these three states. the challenge for democrats in those states has been clear now for the entire trump area. we've talked about this so much. where have democrats been doing better and better and better? suburbs of philadelphia, detroit, grand rapids. even around milwaukee.
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where have democrats been struggling? it's been the small town areas. the rural areas. the blue collar areas. so one of the questions that comes to mind with walz is okay, in minnesota, which also has a lot of those small town, blue collar rural areas along with big, big suburbs around the twin cities area, has he demonstrated particular appeal in those areas that might be transferrable here. let's call up tim walz' most recent election in minnesota. eight points over his republican opponent. i think the key here is when you look at minnesota that is sort of suburban metropolitan college educated core democratic area is right here in the twin cities area. more than half the state population is within this circle. probably even tighter than what i just circled on the screen. everything else here is greater minnesota and where democrats have been losing ground in the trump era. both in minnesota and in those three key battleground states we
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just talked about. so did walz do anything in this part of minnesota in this election in 2022 that say joe biden wasn't already doing when he won minnesota in 2020? the short answer is nothing dramatic. by far, the core of walz's coalition came from this twin cities area where democrats have been running up the score. this is where minneapolis is. more than 70% of the vote walz got here in 2022. compare it to biden. that's right where biden was in 2020. now, in obama's time, about a dozen years ago now, the democratic coalition looked different in minnesota and across the midwest. hen pin was still a blue county. cities, metropolitan areas were still blue, but not as blue. what's happening before and what democrats would like to see happen again, he was able to demonstrate strength in this greater minnesota area, but again, take a look. we'll just use as a stand in here. this could stand in for dozens of county in minnesota.
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sterns county here. it fits that profile of rural blue collar areas. small towns. where democrats have been struggling. walz gets clobbered by 23 points. biden got clobbered by 23 points. obama was able to make it respectable for democrats here. only about a ten-point loss for obama in this county. again, that's true across minnesota. across those three battleground states and what you see with walz is when walz won in 2022, the coalition he put together to win the state of minnesota, it looks just like what's become the standard, post obama coalition. just run up the score in the metro areas. really take a drubing in the rest of the state there. and in minnesota, which has a higher college educated white population than those three other states, that can add up to a victory, but again, where democrats need the help in the other states is not this kind of area where they need the help is in this kind of an area. >> steve kornacki, thank you so
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much. okay, stewart, chief strategist. when you look at what we just heard from steve and also i'm thinking about what david plouffe just told me. i asked him if they were thinking about expanding the map and he said the seven battleground states are the seven we've been focusing on. those are the ones harris and walz are going to starting today. when you look at that map, what steve just reported on, does tim walz help and if so, how? >> you know, i think a lot of politics is about sort of narrative arcs these days. what sort of movie are we going to watch here? i think with harris and walz, you have two very american stories. you have her, daughter of immigrants. come to america. rise to this level. he's a small town guy. like a walking john melloncamp
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song. as claire mccaskill said earlier, he is what jd vance pretends to be. and i think those are very compelling narratives. everybody knows a high school football coach. somebody who taught geography or history in high school. he becomes a congressman, becomes a governor. that's something you can grasp and combine it with the power of the first woman president, woman of color, i think that combination of the two has much more power than each taken by itself. so i consider it a big plus for the campaign. >> you know, maya, i was glad you could come on because you were with the campaign where your candidate was charged in a derogatory way with being liberal. i covered the bernie sanders campaign. liberal on the other side was a dirty word. now, they're calling kamala harris and tim walz dangerously liberal.
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can that land? can that help them? how do they fight it? >> i don't think that's an effective argument because i think obviously because people are going to hear what they're saying and realize that ideas that they are talking about are squarely within what is mainstream. i think that it's an interesting approach because i think a lot of times people say you know, they can sort of scare people away with a idea of progressives or liberalism. but really what we're talking about are really common sense ideas and when people hear the ideas without the label, everyone thinks it's common sense that students should get free breakfast and lunch at school. everyone thinks it's common sense that people need affordable healthcare and affordable childcare. paid family leave. these are basic, basic american values shared across this country. i think that really the danger of an attack like that is that it makes trump vance and a
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number of republicans look even more out of touch and more radical by trying to pitch what sound like common sense ideas as something scary and outside of the mainstream. >> the other thing david plouffe just said to us is that he thinks donald trump has, i'm quoting, incredibly lazy schedule. he has only one in montana. as we know, there's day after day after day battleground states for the democratic side. jd vance is however basically following the harris campaign around on this battleground state tour. this obviously isn't the campaign that donald trump prepared for against biden but what do you make of this contrast this first week for the combined democratic ticket? >> well, number one, it's clear that david has joined the campaign now and is an adviser to the campaign, which he was not before and is absolutely articulating as a campaign operative would be expected to do. this sort of theme of the week,
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which is that donald trump is extremely low energy and that harris and her vice presidential candidate, now we know it's tim walz, are extremely high energy. look, i think you've got vance essentially what they call him in the profession, bracketing harris meaning he's showing up in the same city she's showing up in and going on the attack as the attack dog for the campaign. at some level, that may be for the trump campaign to get him back on solid footing. he violated the first rule of being a vice presidential candidate, which is do no wrong. and we will see if tim walz is able to do that for kamala harris. certainly part of the reason he was chosen buzz he was seen as somebody who would not cause a rift within her own party or cause you know, tremendous angst and anger on the other side. >> okay. so we know the full ticket, right? say you're sitting in the trump war room. what's your bumper sticker message? is it liberal, liberal, liberal,
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or what do you think their strongest move is here? >> well, i think -- i'm sorry. >> go ahead. okay. i think that they're struggling. when they say they're going to unleash hell on earth. i mean, that's just so over the top. they have a language problem in the trump campaign. and that is in a changing america in this world, how do you talk about things that don't sound like the kind of campaign that republicans and i ran some of them, back in the late '80s and '90s? call the other person liberal. put it up. i don't think that stuff works very well anymore. it's very dated. at the heart of this goes back to the fact that what is the republican message? not just the trump campaign. what is the bargain they're striking with voters that you vote for me and you get what?
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there's no policy. there's nothing like a program. there's no 100 day agenda as there is now with the harris walz campaign as there was with the biden campaign. so i think that leaves a hollowness there. so they end up sort of yelling these your mama two kind of insults. i don't know how much money democrats paid jd walz, jd vance to follow the harris campaign around but it was worth it because that contrast, that is not a positive contrast for republicans. >> we did hear from him today. i'm talking about jd vance. he is also as we say in pennsylvania as he follows the democrats around. and he challenged vice president harris for not facing the press. take a listen. >> kamala harris, our border czar, is asking the american people to make her the next
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president of the united states and yet for 16 -- thank you. and yet for 16 days and counting, the american media has been unable to ask her a question. >> so, maya, harris has had i think arguably a really strong campaign rollout, but is she going to have to face some really tough questions and when? plouffe wouldn't answer that for me, but i wonder, do you think she's going to have to sit down, do a press conference, and let the american people hear what they wouldn't have heard from her before joe biden stepped down? >> absolutely. i think that she is going to, you know, need to put herself in front of reporters. answer questions. and put to rest an idea that that's something she has been running from. i think that we also have to remember as quickly as this has all been moving that you know, we have, this is a campaign that has been you know, happening for just a couple of weeks.
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she only just officially got the nomination, so this idea that she has been running for a long time and just won't sit down in front of reporters is really is not backed up by the facts. i think that's again them spinning, trying to come up with a message that's going to hit and land. you know, it has not been that long that she's been the nominee. i have all the confidence in the world that she will sit down like she did when she was running for president in the primary. she did that a number of times and handled herself incredibly well. so i don't think that's a genuine problem that she's having to face. i just think it has not happened yet. >> thank you all. and still ahead, tim walz may not be well-known nationally but he has a lot of friends in congress. what that might mean for kamala harris' agenda. t might mean for harris' agenda stop typing. start talking to a specialized urologist. because it could be peyronie's disease, or pd. it's a medical condition where there is a curve in the erection, caused by a formation of scar tissue.
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here's something you might not have known about tim walz. he's on a group text with dozens of current and former members of congress. men and women called sports buddies where they mostly trash talk each other's favorite teams. those relationships though proved valuable. walz had a lot of cheerleaders in congress during the vp vetting process. one central argument is that his hill connections could help harris implement her legislative agenda. he's liked by a number of key
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members. pramila jayapal said it's quote organizer gold. julie is on capitol hill. also with us, joe crowley, former char of the house democratic caucus. what are you hearing from progressives on the hill, julie? >> they've worked with tim walz for a long time. he was a member of this body for 12 years and represented a very swingy district in minnesota so he was able to work across the aisle but he was also able to build deep relationships with progressives and many of them are applauding this pick by vice president harris. you mentioned jayapal. she posted a photo of him holding a piglet. you also heard from congresswoman ocasio-cortes poking fun not only did she
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endorse this pick, but also did senator manchin. somebody who never agrees with aoc. she's saying they're in disconcerting levels of array, meaning agreement, throughout the party. it might have to do with walz when he was in congress, was very moderate. bills that he supported. he really is in the center left of his party but as governor enacting and backing many progressive policies and platforms, something that bernie sanders championed and talked about on minnesota public radio on saturday talking about the free breakfast and lunches in schools. talking about his record on codifying abortion rights, on healthcare protections. bernie sanders sanders has not formally endorsed harris for president. he told me before the senate left for recess that he's going to do everything he can to elect her. certainly a pick like walz is going to make him happy and it is interesting that it is
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unifying the party in this way. also, reaching out to the muslim and arab community where michigan sitting next door had that big, uncommitted vote. >> as you know, joe, not everybody was for walz. everybody had their own ideas but you served with him. what was your impression of him? what do you think of tim walz as the pick as somebody who worked with him and is it possible that he could be somebody if the ticket was elected that could help on the hill? >> well, i do think that vice president harris had great selection of people to pick from. and i knew three of them very well. josh shapiro i've known for almost 30 years and certainly mark kelly we've all have known. and gabby giffords. tim walz is someone i served with for 12 years. he is a wonderful human being. people describe him as a happy warrior. i think that's right. i think tim is very smart.
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very dedicated to his constituency when he was in the house. i worked closely with him on the affordable care act. we had the mayo clinic in his background in his district. wanted more americans to have exposure to some top qualify healthcare. and he voted and supported the affordable care act back then. he's just a wonderful, wonderful man. i think it's a great pick. a good friend of mine described him as a kitchen table kind of guy and i think that's right. >> as you know, the attacks have begun on the other side. nikki haley who did endorse donald trump posted this. democrats doubling down on the progressive movement. a win for open borders, socialism and iran. can this help the trump campaign? >> i wonder how she's working with that whiplash she has all of a sudden. it's ironic to hear her criticizing anyone at this point when she bashed donald trump throughout her primary and now
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has suckled up to him again. i do, look. no one's perfect. there's going to be issues out there that tim will deal with. but he'll do it honestly. he's someone who will admit he's made mistakes. running up against a guy like trump who never admits he makes a mistake. the fact that you mentioned earlier aoc and joe manchin are behind this pick i think speaks volumes to tim's ability to really relate to other people. and i do think you're right. he's going to have that ability to work the house. to work the senate as vice president and to help get their agenda across the table. >> we're seeing now vice president harris who had gotten off marine two. she's at joint base andrews and she is going to make her way to meet up with tim walz. somebody we hear she had great chemistry with and they're going to have their first in a series of rallies in seven battleground states over the course of the next five days.
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pennsylvania, of course, getting a tremendous amount of attention as a place that frankly campaigns can be decided. the campaign likes to say that just in the last 15 days, they've had over 33,000 sign up to volunteer. they've got almost 300 staffers working in 36 offices. did we hear if she said something there? why tim walz? she gave the thumbs up and there you see her with the second gentleman who has also been very productive even before joe biden stepped down on the campaign trail and almost certainly will continue to be a big part of this campaign. can we just talk about relationships, joe? i know you've watched a lot of presidential campaigns. i've mentioned this a number of times on the show, but when joe biden first decided to step down and kamala harris went to what was now her campaign headquarters in delaware, doug told a story about when she was
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chosen to be vp and going over to the home of the bidens and how welcoming they were. there were cookies. and how joe biden called his parents. and i don't know if you can like put that aside when we hear that a relationship, chemistry, was important to them to whoever she decided to pick. and what does it mean out on the campaign trail to be with people who you trust? who you like? who frankly you can stand to be with 24/7 sometimes. including on a small campaign plane. >> i think that's important. chemistry is always important. i think that certainly something that the vice president had in mind when she met with all these folks. i think she could have had chemistry with any of them, quite frankly, but there's no doubt that tim is one of the nicest people you'll ever meet. he's a decent, honorable, good
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person. that comes across in his personality. the way he acts. the way he speaks. he can cut right through to things and can be very effective, but that's a chemistry she was looking for. someone that can be that wing person for her. can be there when she maybe couldn't say something. tim can say something she can't say. speaks to minnesota, michigan, pennsylvania, to wisconsinites. that's why i think she chose tim. because he's not just about minnesota. he's about the midwest. his accent. you can hear it in him. >> it's great talking to both of you. thanks so much. >> thanks, chris. still to come on chris jansing reports, he might not be known on the wider national stage, but this is the governor who minnesotans have gotten to know. >> every year, we as a family do something old and something new. i get to pick something, a classic, the old mill ride.
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but it's under siege from big out-of-state media companies and hedge funds. now, california legislators are considering a bill that could make things even worse by subsidizing national and global media corporations while reducing the web traffic local papers rely on. so tell lawmakers, support local journalism, not well connected media companies. oppose ab 886. paid for by ccia. a plot to assassinate government officials including donald trump. ken dilanian is nbc news justice
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and intelligence correspondent. we should know this is not, not connected to the assassination attempt in butler, pennsylvania, but we got some inkling of this separately. what can you tell us? >> that's right, chris. we reported there was intelligence suggesting the iranian were plotting to kill donald trump as revenge for his targeting of killing an iranian general. this appears to be part of that effort. the justice department has arrested and charged a pakistani national and they say that he first met with people in iran and then flew from pakistan to the united states and began trying to recruit individuals as part of his elaborate assassination plot. one person he spoke to immediately reported him to the fbi which then set up a sting operation so from then on, he was dealing with undercover fbi
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agents. these charges say he engaged these people who he thought were hit men, paid them $5,000 and talked about a plot to assassinate a politician who he said would be surrounded with security. the u.s. government is saying in these documents they believe this is an iranian-backed plot. the fbi director commented on it. attorney general garland spoke about it. this is a developing story. again, u.s. department of justice charging a pakistani national with plotting to assassinate government officials, potentially including donald trump. >> thank you for that breaking news. also right now, a once in a thousand-year storm is tormenting the southeast. tropical storm debby has already killed at least six people. five in florida, one in georgia. where a 19-year-old died after the storm toppled a tree that fell on his home. forecasters say when all is said and done, debby could drop 20,
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even 30 inches of rain on places. flash flooding has swamped downtown charleston, south carolina and tornados have been reported in multiple areas across the low country. guad is live in bluffton, south carolina for us. what are you seeing? there's a dog there who looks like he's actually enjoying himself. >> reporter: chris, he is the one that has been enjoying the rain, of course. so bluffton is a community that's in between savannah and charleston. about 40 minutes north of savannah and as you can see, they've had a lot of flooding here. authorities say that the lagoons and creeks are at capacity. there's a creek nearby that they tell us is now about to cover the roadway that's next to it. the homeowner's association here told us this community can take about 8.4 inches of rain in a 24-hour period and as of this morning, they had already gotten 11 inches and this is maybe five
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hours ago they told us that. it's been raining since. not the heavy rain from yesterday, but still a lot of rain. we were able to go into these two houses to see what the damage was like inside. it's completely flooded inside. we're going to hear from bob who lives in this house and practically everything inside is now wet. let's hear from bob. >> get some of that squishing. both this one and the next one, the same thing. all soaking wet. in the carpet. >> reporter: that was new carpet, so he was pretty upset. he's left. he's gone to a hotel with his wife and then the neighbors, which you can hear a water pump. they haven't left because they're trying to pump out all of the water that's inside. they've used some sandbags to cover up the front and the back entrance trying to get as much water out before they go stay
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somewhere else. i spoke to anthony earlier who lives in the house and this is what he had to say. had it ever flooded this way? >> no. >> reporter: for ten years, he says they've never seen flooding like this. so they've already gotten a lot of water out. all morning, they've been pumping it out. whole house that way. that was about an hour ago and as you can see, they are still pumping some of that water out. also, the red vehicle they have in the driveway got some water inside. not the pick up truck. so that's the one they're going to be using to transport some of the objects. they have a second floor so they were able to move some to the second floor.
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all of this of course in preparation for more rain. when we look at the radar, we see some of those outer bands are m coing back and could be dropping more rain. authorities say the ground is saturated. essentially, there's no more room for any water here and we're not even near the ocean. we have water here that's coming inland, coming towards the ocean and if there were to be a surge from the ocean, that would be water coming from that direction as well. this in addition to the water that's coming down, of course. >> what a nightmare. thank you for that. take care out there. before becoming harris' number two, minnesota governor walz was far from a household name. so now with his quick assent to the national stage, the question on everyone's mind is who is he? first, walz is a former history teacher who coached high school football. he was also faculty adviser to the student gay straight alliance back in the '90s. he almost exclusively sits in the passenger seat even in official government vehicles because he struggles with car
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sickness if he's in the back and you can often catch him driving his 1979 international harvester scout en route with his dog, scout, to the local dog park. he has his very own special hot dish recipe that includes brats, cream of mushroom soup and tater tots. gabe gutierrez has more on his life and career. >> reporter: a working class politician from a rural background, tim walz is known for not pulling punches. >> this is not about the second amendment. it's about the safety of children in our community. >> reporter: a self-described white dude for kamala harris. he will now run alongside the first woman of color. he grew up in small town nebraska and joined the national guard as a teenager. he'd serve for more than two decades, eventually becoming a schoolteacher. after moving to minnesota, he volunteered for john kerry's
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presidential campaign and was elected to congress in 2006. walz served in washington for the next 12 years. establishing himself as a moderate democrat. then he ran for governor in 2018, winning in a landslide. >> the process of how we as a state now we as a nation respond to these things is really important. >> reporter: 2020 would bring defining moments. the covid pandemic and the killing of george floyd. >> decisions were made in a situation that is what it is and i'm, i simply believe that we tried to do the best we can. >> reporter: walz's critics also point to a state audit report that found major failures by minnesota's education department during the pandemic allowing rampant misuse of a federal program meant to feed children. >> if you commit fraud in minnesota, you are going to be caught and go to prison. >> reporter: still, he's long had union support. the president of the united auto workers says he was among his
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top choices for vp. >> i had an opponent who said walz is in the pocket of organized labor. i said that is a damn lie. i am the pocket. >> reporter: walz is also seen as an attack dog. not shy about going after former president trump or his running mate. >> these guys are just weird. they're running for he man women haters club or something. >> reporter: now the plain spoken 60-year-old governor from the midwest is set to join a historic national ticket. >> that's going to do it for us this hour. join us every weekday from 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. here on msnbc. my coverage continues. i'll be filling in for katy tur reports after a very short break. g in for katy tur reports after a very short break.
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