>> well, i hope you'll come back. we can talk during the convention or before about this campaign and more about the book because it's the end of the hour, so we're out of time. >> you are. it's wonderful to be with you, thank you. my pleasure, and i'll tell paul you asked about him, thank you. victory to kamala and tim. >> ever the campaigner, ever the politician. "the art of power". >> thank you. >> and fortunately he is recovering well as we understand. >> thank you. >> thank you so much, madam speaker. speaker emerita nancy pelosi. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow the show on social media @mitchellreports. you can watch the best of the show on youtube. go to msnbc.com/andrea. "chris jansing reports" starts right now. good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc

headquarters in new york city. there are 36 million new reasons for democrats to be happy with their new ticket. that's how much money donors sent in after tim walz was tapped for vp, giving the party a booster shot of momentum as they make their case to midwest voters today. but long before walz was winning people over on the campaign trail, he was doing it in the classroom. one of his former students from mankato west high school will join me in a minute. plus, a wild scene in georgia where trump supporters cheered a voting board as they handed local officials new power to withhold certification of election results. is it reasonable policy or an invitation for chaos come november? and one of the most expensive house primary races in missouri history ends progressive democrat cori bush's hopes of hanging onto her seat. what led to her loss, the second for a member of the squad in less than two months. lots to get to. we start with that burst of energy driving the full

democratic tickets first full day on the trail. just hours after tim walz made his debut on the national stage by thanking his new running mate for, quote, bringing back the joy. kamala harris's decision to run with the 60-year-old minnesota governor is also paying off literally. nbc news has learned the campaign took in $36 million in the 24 hours after walz was chosen. it mirrors who the campaign is feeling on the ground. outside last night's rally in philadelphia, this is the line you're seeing, roughly 14,000 people, their biggest crowd to date waiting for hours, sometimes in the rain, and starting today, the harris/walz campaign shifts their focus to the midwest where the bulk of the battleground states are starting with stops in wisconsin and michigan, but they won't be alone. j.d. vance is carrying the trump team's message to those same states following democrats everywhere they go this week. nbc's yamiche alcindor is covering the harris/walz campaign from d.c., garrett

haake is in shelby township, michigan. juanita tolliver is host of crooked media's what a day podcast and tim miller worked on jeb bush's 2016 presidential campaign and is the host of the bulwark podcast, both juanita and tim are msnbc political analysts. okay, yamiche, harris and walz heading to wisconsin first. and by the way, roughly 400,000 people in western wisconsin actually see him every day on local tv from the twin cities, so what's the message that they're taking specifically to wisconsin and those midwest battleground states? >> well, tim walz is on this ticket because they believe he can speak directly to midwestern voters and resonate with them. he's going to talk about the fact he has a middle class upbringing and of course he's standing next to someone who is a middle class woman from oakland, california. together they're going to make this case that they understand people's lives. they are there to make their lives easier and better. they're going to be talking about their policies and their

vision for america, talking about a more inclusive america, but also talking about everyday issues. talking about the fact that the economy needs to work for everyday people, talking about the fact that crime needs to be sort of as low as possible and that people will be safe there, but also talking about freedoms, not just the freedom when it comes to reproductive rights, but also the freedom to sort of be able to mind your own business as tim walz put it yesterday. you're going to hear a little bit of what we heard yesterday but also tailored to a community that can really sort of talk to tim walz and talk about sort of how his shared upbringing as someone who grew up in rural america does dovetail with their experiences. this is also going to be a campaign where they're, of course, going to go after republicans. they're going to make the case that they have a better vision for america and they're going to be in some ways poking fun, i would say mocking in some ways the republicans. i'm sure we're going to hear tim walz talk about j.d. vance and former president trump being weird, being creepy, but also there's this idea that had they sort of are lining their own

pockets and aren't really caring about everyday people. yesterday in philadelphia one of the biggest applauses that i heard standing in that arena with something like 14,010,000 people was when tim walz said that violent crime was down when former president trump was in office and that doesn't even include the crimes that he was convict -- that he committed. he was making the case that violent crime was up and that his crimes were sort of not part of that. the crowd sort of laughed at that. he talked about about the fact that everyday people don't want to be in their neighbor's businesses and they want to be focused on sort of just having a better life for themselves. we're going to hear all of that sort of messaging, and i think we're going to hear that over and over again as they go to detroit later this afternoon, chris. >> so that's the strategy, garrett, on the harris side. explain to me the strategy with j.d. vance following harris/walz around. >> reporter: yeah, chris, this is just campaign tactics 101, to

bracket the top of the democratic ticket by appearing on the same days in the same media markets. j.d. vance's event here at a police station just outside detroit was very small, only about 30 invited guests, but there were plenty of media here, and he's going to appear in the local news coverage at any of the political events of the day. it's an easy investment for the trump campaign to make with vance going on the attack, very much on the message trying to use walz's addition to the democratic ticket to paint both of them as too liberal, too progressive for americans. he basically argues that voters shouldn't be fooled by walz's demeanor or the fact that he wears camo and carhartt, that he is just as progressive as kamala harris, and that should be disqualifying for both of them. here's some of what folks heard of his stump speech today. listen. >> this is a radical human being who comes from the far left wing of the democratic party. what kamala harris is telling all of us is that she bends the knee to the far left of the

democrat party. she's done it every single time in government. she's done it in who she's selected as her vp nominee, and she will do it if the american people give her a promotion to president of the united states. we don't have to guess at what kamala harris believes. the fact that she keeps on leaning on the most far left people of the democratic party tells us exactly who she is and what she stands for. >> and chris, what vance did today and what republicans have been almost begging the trump campaign to do is try to stay mostly on policy here. the event here was focused on public safety and to a lesser degree immigration, this event that's about to begin in wisconsin will have more of an economic focus, inflation, kitchen table issues like that. a lot of republicans believe if they can just stay within that band they stand a much better chance of effectively taking down the harris/walz ticket than they do when they go off on identity focused attacks and the personal attacks that are more the bread and butter of donald trump himself. >> thank you so much for that,

garrett and yamiche. we appreciate you. so juanita, let's talk about enthusiasm. they've been on a roll. there's no doubt about that. there were folks in detroit, black leaders in particular, who had been worried even in that city whether or not they could win, and now one of them describes a mind-blowing level of excitement on par with barack obama's 2008 campaign, but look, detroit is one thing. how do you take that and extrapolate it and make it work in the suburbs in rural areas? >> i think it's all about getting out there and staying out there, chris and drawing the contrast to the trump campaign. even in the reporting we just heard, the contrast is clear. do you want a campaign of joy and hope or anger? do you want a campaign of normal or weird as governor or coach tim walz put it, or do you want a campaign that's going to be about protecting your freedoms or project 2025.

that is a message that i fully expect them to continue to drive home everywhere, and that message appeals whether you live in urban areas or suburban areas or rural areas, and that prompts the question that came up in my mind when i heard j.d. vance's clip about when did a veteran who grew up on a farm in nebraska become the far left? right? like the attacks are not going to stick from the right because the worst i've heard them come up with is oh, governor walz has fed children for free at schools and he provides menstrual products for free at school, and he protects lgbtq individuals and their freedoms, oh, that sounds pretty amazing for a lot of people across this country. and so when i started, i said stay out there, but this contrast, i think, is going to be the core and the shape of the message for the next 90 days. >> so that's the message. let me ask you, if i can, tim, about the messenger. i think it was just this morning on your podcast, at least i listened to it this morning, you said you still think it should

have been josh shapiro. okay, make your case, i guess, against tim walz, why is he the bad choice or why was shapiro better? >> look, it's kamala harris's choice, not mine. i'm giving a political analysis. to me the north star here is beating donald trump. josh shapiro has a 61% 3r0e68 approval rating in pennsylvania and josh shapiro won very well in the rural, red parts of the state, won by digits in his race for governor just two years ago, whereas tim walz in minnesota has won in a blue state. but won mostly on the back of doing very well in minneapolis/st. paul. look, i think that tim walz brings some things to the ticket that shapiro doesn't. i don't know that it's a totally clear call. i think that the contrast with vance, particularly with regards to what juanita was talking about, his background, giving back to the community, being a

coach, being a veteran versus somebody that when he came back from being a veteran as well in j.d. vance, went to yale and then signed up with some vcs and sucked up to some rich silicon valley guys and wrote a book and got hollywood treatment. the tim walz populist economic contrast with j.d. vance i think is very strong and clear. he's also a good messenger, so i think this part's good. i think what's missing now from this ticket, or maybe not missing, but what this ticket is going to have to work on a little harder than they would have had to work on if it were josh shapiro, how do you reach out and solidify those center right voters, the people who were trump biden voters. those people exist. the people in georgia that voted for brian kemp, the republican governor and raphael warnock, the democratic senator. that was about 10% of the electorate in georgia. these are real people, and this ticket i think can appeal to that voter, but they're going to

have to work a little harder in their messaging and trying to reach them than they would have if they'd gone a more moderate direction in the vp pick. i think that's a calculus that the vice president made based on balancing the ticket and who she felt most b comfortable with. >> i think there's no doubt that tim walz joins a ticket that was at least full of momentum, and we see it in a new npr, pbs marist poll, it shows a huge swing among independents for kamala harris. she was down 14, now up 9. that's a 23 point swing. what do you think it's all about? and again, how do they keep it going? because the hardest thing to do with momentum is to keep it. >> i think it's all about having an option that you are excited about. you mentioned earlier that this is giving the energy, especially on the fund-raising side of obama '08. people are excited, and that excitement has been translating

not only to donations but new voter registration, volunteerships, campaign mobilizations on the ground. that is how they're going to sustain it. it seems like when individuals get bought into vice president harris and now bought into governor walz, they are going to do whatever it takes to win this election, and that's the sustaining energy. and what we do know from the ground game perspective, the harris campaign has a lot more already in play in terms of campaign offices in battleground states and campaign staffers who have been working for a long time now even before the change at the top of the ticket to start to engage voters. that is something that she is absolutely outpacing trump and j.d. vance in and will continue to it outpace them because all i see on the horizon is additional expansion. the other piece of this momentum that is going to sustain is how more people see harris and walz together on the trail, which puts j.d. vance at a massive disadvantage. while he's following them around the country, he is alone, but the images of harris and walz

together on stage transferring energy to each other, cheering each other on like we saw yesterday and we'll see more of today, laughing at each other's jokes, that is what's going to keep the energy high and people excited because they like to see that relationship. again, in contrast to what we know is a nonexistent partnership right now between trump and j.d. vance. j.d. vance is alone, trump is hiding out. he's only got one event in montana, and he already said that j.d. vance doesn't even matter to this ticket. that is yet another way that this campaign, the harris/walz campaign is going to continue to expand their momentum. >> one of the things -- and you know this as well as anybody, tim, that they do at these campaign stops is they blast a lot of music and try to get people to stay awake while they're waiting hours. i'm told in eau claire, folks are dancing to abba and dancing queen. i think one of the things that the harris campaign has been doing in a way, we haven't necessarily seen from democrats

before is the poking and the prodding, and i can show you one comparison, they compared her crowd size last night. absolutely full at temple, with his, much of the upper stands seem to be empty. do these things which seem pretty simple and, you know, not tremendously sophisticated to put it one way get under donald trump's skin, tim, in a way that will make him react in ways that are not helpful? >> yeah, i do think this matters. the first question that talked about the group that she needed to do some work with, the center right swing voters, don't need to do any work with the base voters anymore or the maybe lesser engaged democratic voters who joe biden was really struggling with. and that ties to the music stuff really. that's not just silly. she had megan thee stallion in atlanta. >> trump says she needs

entertainers to get people to come out. >> i think that feels like -- he's upset that her crowds are bigger. there's just a lot of energy, and i think there are a lot of people. it was a big risk a month ago for the democrats and some of their own voters were going to stay at home and that is not a risk anymore. i think they're bringing in new voters, younger voters into this process that were disengaged and i think that is real. it's a boost, and i think trolling trump over that and getting under his skin also helps because it makes him lash out and do a lot of stupid stuff we've seen him do in the last couple of weeks. >> juanita tolliver, always good to see you, thank you. tim miller, you're going to stay with me. in 90 seconds, the controversial new ruling in georgia and what it could mean if trump loses in november. we'll explain after this. ng psos can't filter out the real you. so go ahead, live unfiltered with the one and only sotyktu, a once-daily pill for moderate to severe plaque psoriasis,

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the republican controlled georgia state election board has just approved a controversial new rule that democrats warn could be weaponized if former president trump loses in november. this is a state where trump and 14 of his allies faced charges for unlawfully conspiring to change the outcome of the 2020 election. joining me now is nbc's priya is a ree that are with the latest, msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin is with me. tim miller is back with me.

>> reporter: this new rule essentially gives more power to local election officials to conduct what they're calling a reasonable ink worry, which would allow them to ensure that the results of an election are an accurate and true accounting of all the ballots and the votes cast, but what critics of the rule says is that this gives too much discretionary power to local election officials that will allow them to essentially dispute, deny, or reject the outcome of an election if their preferred candidate doesn't achieve the desired results that they want, and that could essentially delay or draw out the entire election process, and what's really at dispute here is georgia state law says local election officials shall certify the results of an election, and so what many of the people who are against this new rule say is that that means that it's a ministerial thing. it's more of a symbolic part of the process, but others, you know, republicans who have supported this rule and the man on the georgia election board

who proposed this rule said that local election officials shouldn't be just rubber stamping election results, that they should have the power to double check the results and that if this is, in fact, a fair and transparent and accurate process, this really shouldn't be a big deal. but there is a nonpartisan nonprofit called protect democracy, which tracks anti-democratic practices across the united states, and they have said that since 2020, there's actually been 20 instances across eight states where local county lerks lerks election off refused to certify the election. that happened once last year with local election results in both instances, the county boards, the majority overturned the board members who didn't want to certify those election results, but the real concern here, chris, is that other states could follow georgia's suit and pass similar rules to

this and draw out the entire election process. >> priya, thank you so much for that. lisa, help me to understand the legalities of this. from what i've read, the rule runs counter to decades of settled georgia law, so how can a georgia board change settled law without the legislature? >> that's certainly a question, chris, that many in georgia are asking today including members of the state legislature who are responsible for setting that nondiscretionary georgia law that priya was referring to. i think we can anticipate that litigation will ensue here, and certainly on an expedited time frame because as you just noted, there appears to be a conflict between the state statute which requires county boards to certify the results and this new rule promulgated by the georgia state election board, which would appear to give county boards of elections the power to conduct a reasonable inquiry without defining what that inquiry would consist of, even though folks on that election board who favored the new rule

say it's something short of an audit. but what they don't say is what it would entail and how it's harmonized with existing georgia law. here, chris, i think we can expect to see good government groups or those affiliated with the party challenge this rule almost immediately. >> the rule is set to go into effect in 20 days, and then there's, what, just a couple of months left before the actual election, so can all of this get done and settled before election day? >> well, i think we've all become a lot more familiar with the concept of stays and injunctions than we have been in years past. so expect to see whoever files suit not only complain that this is unlawful, but seek a stay of the implementation of the rule before that 20 day mark to ensure that nothing unlawful occurs in protection of their position here that georgia's state law and not this rule should govern the further

conduct of elections this election season, chris. >> so tim, former president trump actually spoke about three members of the election board at his rally on saturday. this is what he said. >> i don't know if you've heard, but the georgia state election board is in very positive way. this is a very positive thing, marjorie, they're on fire. they're doing a great job. three members, janice johnson, rick jeffries, and janelle king, three people are all pit bulls fighting for honesty, transparency, and victory. they're fighting. >> so tim, given the tone we're already hearing from donald trump and others about these state election officials, do you think the '24 election certification process could play out like 2020 or maybe even worse? >> certainly it could play out like 2020. okay, so there's some bad news, some good news here, the crazy and the bad is you notice there

donald trump shouting out marjorie taylor greene from the stage, this is not a man reaching out to the middle in any way. he's naming these three people and saying they're bulldogs, and then he says for victory. that's not what nonpartisan election board members are supposed to be engaged in, trying to put their thumb on the scale for victory. so i think there's a lot of good reason to be concerned about this ruling. these are very legitimate organizations raising alarm bells around this. here's the good news, though, donald trump might have been successful at getting some cronies on this board. he tried to get cronies into the secretary of state office and the governor's office and georgia was one of very few states that resisted him. brian kemp, the sitting republican governor, and brad raffensperger are both still in office. i think we can feel a little bit better since they were the ones that did the right thing in 2020 knowing that the buck's going to stop with them. there's definitely it seems like

going to be some trouble making in the meantime. well, only if donald trump loses. >> tim miller, lisa rubin, thank you both. "the new york times" reports that the arizona grand jury that charged 18 so-called fake electors and trump allies wanted to indict former president trump as well. after reviewing court papers, the times says prosecutors ultimately recommended that trump should not be charged because of a doj policy that discourages bringing state and federal cases against the same defendant largely based on the same facts. this comes as one of the co-defendants in this case, lorraine pell agree know just pled guilty. that's the first conviction in the case, and former trump attorney jenna ellis flipped. she has now signed a cooperation agreement with prosecutors. up next, cori bush responding to becoming the second squad member to lose a 2024 primary. we'll head to capitol hill to learn what made the difference there. plus, tropical storm debby's torrential downpours wreaking havoc across the southeast, the

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cori bush is the second squad member to lose her seat. democratic divisions oaf the war in gaza. julie tsirkin has just returned from missouri and is now back on capitol hill. she comes from a deep blue congressional district. what made the difference in this primary? >> reporter: chris, a tiny, tiny blue dot in a very ruby red state of missouri. what made the difference, it might have come down to that issue, israel and gaza. cori bush is extremely outspoken. she's one of the first members to call for a cease fire after october 7th. i asked her if she has any regrets about her rhetoric or taking that stance given that there is about a 60,000 large population of jews living in st. louis, and she says no. she stands for everybody, that she doesn't support bigotry or htred of any kind. still, though, she was up against about $9 million of cash infused into her opponent by

pro-israel groups known as apec, and this is something she, her campaign team, her supporters said made the difference. when i talked to wesley bell the county prosecutor who was able to defeat bush, he told me this is about other issues, that he's going to be a progressive in congress, but he's going to be a practical one working across the aisle. bush even voted against key pieces of legislation that her own party championed, including the infrastructure bill because it wasn't progressive enough, but in terms of what's next for bush, she's not going away. take a listen. >> but what's next for cori bush? are you going to work with bell even though he just did you dirty like that after telling you he's not going to run? what's your plan? >> yeah, so we will win, but for the sake of your question, so one thing i don't do is go away. that's clear with everybody. i think everybody knows that i don't go away. i won't stop just because of a title change, you know. i'm not there for the title. i'm there for the benefit to the

community. >> reporter: about 7,000 votes, chris, separated bush and bell, obviously significant, even six percentage points can make a huge difference. when you heard me ask her there that he did you dirty like that, that was referring to bell originally running against josh hawley for senate. he told bush, according to a leaked audio that we obtained that he was not going to challenge her. she told me she feels like a black woman. she's being stepped over by her opponent, that three years in the seat was just not enough for her to prove all that she can do. still, though, obviously her comments about israel and some of these other issues made bell victorious in this race. both of them the children of the ferguson unrest launching their political careers in different ways. >> julie tsirkin, thank you. right now, millions of americans are on high alert for even more flooding with tropical storm debby now tracking north. now, even before debby got there, intense thunderstorms

from a different storm system in new york prompted a major pileup north of manhattan. police had to push their way through to rescue at least six people from stalled cars. and then take a look at this, a bulldozer in hackensack, new jersey, transformed into a taxi to drop riders off towards a dry area on that drenched road. all of it as people in florida are still wading through flood waters, evacuating in the wake of debby. one family used a boat to flee with a little boy strapped into a life vest on board. others escaped on foot carrying their belongings in trash bags. nbc's maggie vespa is live in charleston, south carolina, for us today. maggie, this was like debby's round one. what's happening now? the storm's getting stronger? >> reporter: the storm is essentially getting stronger. it's 60 miles offshore, gaining strength over those warm waters. it's set to make landfall here again tonight. this is the remnants from round

one. this is flood water that's being pumped from under basically the city, from charleston's sewer system. i'll show you over here the generator that they have running, we have several of these just along the water line here in charleston harbor. so they're trying to get the flood water out from round one knowing they're likely going to have a round two here in the carolinas as debby kind of charges back north. we have some video of some of the damage that, again, round one did here in the area, including when debby made landfall as a category 1 hurricane in florida, then became a tropical storm, charging yesterday through georgia. the carolinas, the flood waters were intense. the tornado damage was also just jaw dropping to see it. we talked to people here in the charleston area who just said this is actually making them think twice about where they live. take a listen to this. >> at least in south carolina this is day one. are you worried for what day two, day three, day four could bring? >> my wife was like maybe we should pack the car and get out of here because we have a 3-month-old at home.

i'm like, it's a rite of passage. >> reporter: that man later said despite it being a rite of passage, he said we feel like it might be a sign to move. there's the flood water from round one being basically just pumped into the charleston harbor, the city has several of these just kind of up and down the water line here trying to get as much done as they can knowing that debby is set to make landfall here again overnight, everyone here, chris, bracing for round two. we could see up to 25 inches of rain by the time this thing is done. >> wow, nightmare. maggie vespa, be safe out there. well, new york city is trying a new tactic to warn people of potential flooding. this week the city started using drones with loud speakers to monitor historically flooded neighborhoods. here's the message new yorkers will hear if there's a chance of flooding in their area. n their a >> if you live in the basement or a ground floor apartment, be prepared to leave your location if flooding occurs.

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the harris campaign is leading hard into tim walz's years as a teacher and coach, just the connection with middle america they wanted in a running mate. >> under those friday night lights, coach walz motivated his players to believe they could achieve anything, and together they defied the odds. hear this out, going from a winless record to the school's

first ever state championship. [ cheers and applause ] >> tim walz is a great man. tim walz is an outstanding governor. tim walz is a teach, tim walz is guardsman. tim walz is a great patriot. >> expect to see the campaign put out photos like this one, this is 2023, governor walz -- well, we don't see that here, being hugged by elementary school students after he signed a bill guaranteeing free breakfasts and lunches for every student in minnesota's public and charter schools. trust me, there's a great photo. it's on nbcnews.com, and that's not it. among the hundreds of students who passed through his classrooms, noah hobbs, mankato west high school class of 2007. he joins me now. it's great of you to come on the show.

how are you doing, noah? >> good, thanks for having me. >> his wife lynn also taught for 29 years, said don't ever underestimate teachers. who is the teacher you knew in the high school classroom? >> l yeah, mr. walz has been my favorite teacher in high school and many of my classmates as well, and i think hopefully everyone watching has a favorite teacher and you can look at those traits and turn it to mr. walz. i was a c-ish type student, and mr. walz paid as much attention to me as a 4.0 or a student classmates, and i think it's just really important when you're age 14, 15 to have an adult outside of your family that cares and has that much interest in you and seeing you succeed, not only in their classroom but other classrooms as well. >> i don't know if you can see what is on tv right now, but the vice president and tim walz are just landing in eau claire where they're going to have a rally

later. there are a bunch of kids waiting for them. he's been bending down and talking to the kids. there are lots of stories about his interactions. there was a story that he hosted sort of jeopardy style tournaments at the school. that he invited other teachers to debate him on current events, kind of setting an example. again, i don't know if you can see this, but his interactions with the kids are like -- they're going on for a little bit. how do you think he's going to do going out into rest of the country and maybe even debating j.d. vance? >> yeah, i mean, i think mr. walz is certainly unique in the ability to take complex ideas or theories and boil it down that 14 and 15-year-olds can understand. i think that is a great asset to have in the country, but also just his genuine, you can see his genuine happiness and joy,

and he exudes that in just everything that he does, and it's infectious, and i think it's really great to share mr. walz with the rest of the nation and just his joyful nature and his ability to connect with people in a meaningful way. >> you know, it's interesting what you say about taking complex ideas. there was a column in "the l.a. times" talking about teachers generally, and this is part of what it says. anyone who has stood in front of a classroom of high school students at pretty much any hour of the school day knows there is no tougher constituency or audience in the world. you need someone to stare down brat ty antics or blow up misinformation as walz has proved a good teacher can do it mid-sentence would blinking before returning to a lecture on westward expansion. tell me a little more about the teacher you knew, his reputation, and i don't know how much you're still in touch with your old friends from high school, but what the conversations have been like over the last 24 hours? >> yeah, i mean, the conversations with friends from

high school have been constant, texts, phone calls, just excitement and proud of mr. walz and all of this and then also, you know, talking to my dad still lives in mankato, just the excitement of folks, older than me to have a local boy made good, but just an incredible teacher in the way that he approaches his job with energy every single day, dedicated, you know, to his classmates and his students, and my classmates. i did a cup of coffee project when i was on the duluth city council which certainly was inspired by mr. walz, and he was the hundredth cup, he drove up as st. paul as governor heard about it and wanted to partake, and so he still cares long beyond the student teacher relationship, and i can't say enough kind things about mr. walz. >> well, you have, i think, won over any number of c-ish students from high school. there are a lot of them, but it

really is appreciated that you took the time to talk to us. thank you. >> thanks for having me. and with harris and walz set to speak in wisconsin next hour, how are voters feeling? can the new ticket help democrats win. congresswoman gwen moore who represents that state will join us ahead. but first, major development in the middle east. hamas says it's chosen the mastermind of the october 7th attacks as its new leader. what that could mean for the push for a cease fire, we'll head to tel aviv next. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. ching "cg reports" only on msnbc i'm deadpool's roommate. blind al. i can't see him, [sniffs] —uggh! —but lord, can i smell him. i have old spice total body. keeping him fresh everywhere.

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some breaking news, two men in austria have been arrested in connection with with a suspected terror plot at major events in that country including taylor swift's era's tour which starts there this weekend. the two had become radicalized through the internet and allegedly had specific and detailed plans to carry out an attack. during the arrest, the bomb squad found chemicals and police are trying to determine if they could have been used to build a bomb. for swifties heading to they are vienna shows this weekend, there is no plan to cancel the concert, but there will be enhanced security checks. hamas has chosen ya ha sinwar, the master mind of the october 6th massacre as its leader. sinwar has long been a key

player, and now any prospect of peace is down to him, at least according to secretary of state antony blinken. >> he has been and remains the primary decider when it comes to concluding the cease fire. i think this only underscores the fact that it is really on him to decide whether to move forward. >> nbc's ellison barber is reporting from tel aviv. we have talked about this a lot. the biden administration pushing hard to get a cease fire in place, not only to pause the fight in gaza, of course, but to prevent hostilities between israel and iran and its proxies from escalating. what can you tell us about those talks, and also obviously the reaction to sinwar's appointment? >> reporter: yeah, so, i mean, when it comes to sinwar, it's hard to overstate how much power he had prior to the announcement that he would be replacing

haniyeh as the head of the political bureau. he was known to have veto power, a final say on any cease fire, hostage negotiations prior to this. now it's all just really solidified behind him. it's interesting when you look to secretary of state antony blinken, when you listen to his statements as well as other things that we have heard in the last 24 hours from white house officials like national security adviser jake sullivan, and you compared that to what we're hearing from israeli officials and also hamas leadership, and it seems like they're talking about two totally different sets of negotiations. you're hearing secretary of state antony blinken still sort of strike this optimistic tone, but then we have this statement from israel's prime minister's office saying, quote, israel has already given a clear offer, sent the negotiating team to cairo already. that happened last saturday, and up to this moment, they say no response has been received from hamas. just last night in an interview

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