because we're a party of commons, and i'm a person of common sense. i want low taxes, strong borders, a strong military so that china and russia, look, they have allowed china and russia to do the impossible. . combine. they're natural enemies, they always have been. china needs more land and russia has it. they have always been natural enemies and because of obama, it started with him, and biden because he didn't know what hell he was doing, they have become one force, and they are adding iran to it, and they're adding north korea to it. pretty powerful force. this is something that's unthinkable that they allowed to happen. >> bidenomics, you're saying you're not going to change your campaign strategy. what if this doesn't end? >> the honeymoon period is going to end. she's got a convention coming

up. it's about policy. it's not about her. i think she's incompetent because i've watched her. she destroyed california. she destroyed san francisco. everything she has touched has turned to bad things. i'm not going to use foul language but everything she has touched has turned bad. she's incompetent. the reason she's not doing what she should be doing. she won't do interviews with friendly people because she can't do better than biden. he had a reason for not doing well, and he was never 25 years ago, the sharpest or brightest bulb in the ceiling, that i can tell you. he wasn't. he could to interviews at least. not lately he couldn't. perhaps. but she should be doing interviews. she opportunity want to do interviews. number one her policies are so bad. to answer your question, i think

it's not going to change. it's not about her as much as her policies. she wants open borders. she wants to take away your guns. when i was president, i totally protected the guns. and i think it's very important. i know i take heat for it. you have to have safety. when the bad guy walks in with a gun, you have to have some way of protecting yourself, and that would be -- you would see crime go up at levels you have never seen. when people say on this side of the house, this house has guns, we will use the guns, they say, let's pass, we'll go someplace else. you have to have them. and the nra endorsed me. every time. my friends are members. indirectly i'm a member too. they gave me the strongest of

endorsements, and that's against strong competition. people that felt the same way. you have to have that right. our second amendment is an important right, and it has to be protected. how about you. go ahead. [ inaudible question ] >> there are some of the most brilliant people on wall street saying if president trump doesn't win, you're going to have a depression. i happen to agree. i think that's true. i know how bad these people are. you know, they like to say that they did this and that. you saw the $7 trillion that they said it was me for 7 trillion. it wasn't me. it was them. they said i had inflation. they took over 9% inflation. i had 1% inflation. i had actually no inflation because if you look at the categories, i had no inflation. i actually had a positive

inflation, a perfect number. you don't want zero. i'm not going to give you a whole course on economics. you don't want zero. 1%. 1.4% is great. you want a little bit because you don't want to have deflation. deflation is in many ways even worse. i had a perfect number around the 1% number. it was perfect. and to show you. it stayed there for two years. and then he did all of the different borrowings that he did, and then he did so many things wrong, every time he would do it, i would say big mistake, and don't forget, they sell hats, and they sell stories. trump was right about everything. i have been right about a lot. yes, maggie. [ inaudible question ] >> we had a commission like other people do.

it's always complicated and controversial. we had commissions of respected people. and they would recommend pardons for people. some people were treated very harshly. a fantastic woman, as you know, she served 24 years being on a phone call having to do with drugs. you know who i'm talking about. she was great, and he had another 24 years to go, and it was about marijuana, which in many cases is now legalized, okay. but we had many highly regarded people on a commission, and they'd recommend and put a reason why. some people were, you know, served time, but they served a lot of time for something that today people wouldn't even serve time by. i had a commission that was very important to me, and highly respected people, and they came up decisions i wouldn't

necessarily agree with. i did it. i let a lot of people out that were -- that had no representation. i went to people in jails, in prison, that we respected. i said how many of these people should be let out. we let out large groups of low income people that were serving like 40 years for something that today you wouldn't even be put in jail for. we had very few people let out, i didn't want to let people out where they had violence and killing and for the most part, we didn't do that. >>. [ inaudible question ] >> federal reserve. right, well, look, the federal reserve is a very interesting thing, and it's sort of gotten it wrong a lot, and he's tending to be a little bit later on

things. he gets a little bit too early and a little bit too late. that's very largely a gut feeling. i believe it's really a gut feeling, and i used to have it out with him. i had it out with him a couple of times very strongly. i fought him very hard. and you know we get along fine. i feel the president should have a say in there. i feel that strongly. in my case, i made a lot of money, and i think i have better instinct that in many cases people would be on the federal reserve or chairman. so about an hour into this press conference with donald trump, we are going to continue to listen, and we'll let you know if any news is made here. but i think it's important, again, after giving him an hour, to do some fact checks and let's start with the fact that people were killed on january 6th. two rioters were killed, and of course several officers in the

wake of the riot. biden did not weaponize the doj against donald trump. kamala harris did pass the bar. she was the attorney general of california. he said she wants to take away people's guns. she just named a running mate who is a gun owner and a hunter. she said josh shapiro, who was not named as her running mate is not popular. in fact, he is, for as long as polls have been taken on favorability of pennsylvania governors, the most popular governor ever in that state. some of the other things, he said -- asked by garrett haake, which is a very important question about why he thinks she is winning, he said, she is a woman, although earlier suggested that she was not winning. in fact, when he said that her campaign is crashing, not true.

her campaign has set fundraising efforts. she is getting very loud and enthusiastic crowds and she has been gaining in the poll. this is a race that remains too close to call. but when you look at the trends, clearly the trends are with kamala harris. and then he said he was not complaining at all about kamala harris being the nominee instead of joe biden, and then he went on to suggest that it perhaps was unconstitutional and called her campaign not only crashing but said she was barely competent, nasty and clueless. keeping up what has been a tradition with donald trump, all the names that he called hillary clinton when he was running against her in 2016, suggesting now that he actually was trying to protect her or protected her from prison, when, in fact, and this is something he has tried to walk back, but it's on tape. starting in 2016, he said often

lock her up led chants that were about lock her up, when it was fact checked by usa today, they caught him saying he didn't say that, a ridiculous attempt at revisionist history. those are a few of the things that are important to fact check about what he said. what he did say is he has not recalibrated his strategy at all. what we heard from donald trump here is the same kind of press conference you might have heard against joe biden when joe biden was expected to be the nominee. we also got a bit of news out of this. apparently he is agreeing to a debate on september 10th on abc. that was a debate that kamala harris had suggested. two others, we expect maybe on september 4th and the 25th on fox and nbc. he also suggested he would like to see one vice presidential

debate that he has agreed to on september 25th, and he also said that j.d. vance, who has taken a lot of criticism for statements he has made including criticizing what he called a childless cat lady is doing a fantastic job. so a lot to unpack. and we're going to continue to unpack it, but that's going to do it for me. i'm chris jansing, our coverage will continue right now with ali vitali who is in for katy tur. good to be with you. i'm ali vitali in for katy tur. former president trump hadn't made a public appearance since the kamala harris/tim walz ticket became official. he said a lot of things. many of which were untrue. our colleague chris jansing was ticking through some of them. but there's more. for instance, that president biden weaponized the department of justice against him, that he

won in his words the mar-a-lago classified documents case. he of course didn't. the judge is someone he appointed who dismissed the case abruptly and quietly. trump said that kamala harris never passed the bar. of course she has. he said that harris mounted a coup against president biden for the nomination. of course that's not what happened. president biden stepped down. the party rallied around harris as its nominee. he said the biden/harris administration let in 20 million illegal immigrants and that they have an open border policy. that's not true. those are a sample of the things trump said in the press conference with reporters. he made news on potential debates, all in september across a variety of networks and there will be in his words a peaceful transfer of power. >> of course there will be a peaceful transfer, and there was last time, and there will be a peaceful transfer. i just hope we're going to have

honest elections. that's all. >> certainly the cry of honest elections and fair elections is exactly what he was lying about in 2020 when he lost. no fraud was found in that election. but the press conference came as the harris campaign has -- the trump campaign seeking to find footing in the political landscape that polls show is neck in neck. we'll dig in on that in a moment. vp harris and governor walz are on day three of the swing state. we have got a lot to break down. you see the harris event on the screen. joining us now, nbc news who's correspondent, allie raffa, courtney kube, and senior national political correspondent for "the washington post" and nbc news political analyst, ashleigh parker. you and i have been watching trump together for a while now. to me it was striking how he still seems like he really wants

to be running against president biden. what picked your ears up from all of that? >> from the very beginning, he came out, and he seemed angry and hitting on themes and targets that are classic, you know, repetitious grievances of his, and characters he likes to go after, and gripes, and i was kind of struck by that this is exactly what the harris/walz campaign is thrilled to be watching. i had a piece out this morning capturing in this moment, we're seeing two different visions of what campaigns believe voters want to hear come into stark reality for the democrats. you have one of joyfulness and hope and optimism and from trump and his running mate, they are offering a dark and dystopian

vision of the future. i was listening to how much it felt like, as you and i saw on the campaign trail, down to mar-a-lago previously for these sorts of press conferences, a typical press conference when the former president is not in a particularly great mood and i was struck by how much it did not seem to meet the current moment and do what even his own team and republicans would probably argue and we'll probably hear from them soon, what it needed to do. >> that feedback loop is instan -- instantaneous. let's get to what ashley is talking about. is this the kind of press conference that the trump campaign wants to have at the moment? does this do the job of disrupting the harris, walz honeymoon the way they need to? >> you heard it from trump himself. he doesn't feel like he needs to disrupt anything. he answered questions about the politics of this moment, and he

believes as does his campaign this honeymoon will dissipate on its own in the weeks following the convention. it's part of the reason he's not more active on the trail this week. that said, i think he and the campaign wanted to insert themselves into the national conversation in a way that they have been absent for the last couple of days. and kind of put the ball back over in the harris campaign's court to say donald trump was able to come here and take questions for more than an hour, when will the vice president do so. they believe that's a weakness of hers, and the more she talks, and this is direct from senior advisers, the more she talks without a script or teleprompter, the less americans will like it. they are daring her to do unscripted appearances in the hopes it will lower her popularity as well. the trump campaign understands that by the time the election is over in november their guy is not going to be super popular with a lot of the country. their theory is kamala harris will be equally as unlikable. part of that includes throwing

down a gauntlet with an event today, i took questions for an hour on a variety of typicalics, what are you going to do to tell people who you are and what you believe. that's the challenge from the trump campaign. >> and that's certainly something that the harris campaign is well aware of as a point of criticism and our reporting at this time is they know they need to get both of those candidates or harris in an interview setting, taking questions from reporters. all of us want that to happen. it strikes me as i was listening, garrett, saying that she needs to be off of a teleprompter, the open border stuff, it's all the same kind of attack against biden. it doesn't feel like they are specifying a tax against her, at least it didn't here. did i miss something? >> reporter: i think that's mostly right. there are two things in play here. the trump campaign believes they can run against harris as though she is an incumbent.

there's a lot of muscle memory. they spent 600 plus days just in this campaign running against joe biden. so kind of shaking is off the moves they have been using against biden will take time. i think they will take some of them. they think the biden record is a potential albatross around the neck of kamala harris. i think the thing we're going to see in the coming weeks is more of a focus on harris's record prior to being the respect, specifically the positions she staked out in her own campaign for the presidency in 2019 and 2020. support for things like medicare for all, and gun buybacks, and kind of the positions you take in a democratic primary that don't play as well in the general election. that's what the trump campaign is telegraphing what will happen. you're right to point out that is not something donald trump himself has been dexterous. you say in his answers to my questions in describing and defending the how of a lot of his own policy positions, not really able to describe in any detail what his policy would be

on mifepristone, which is something that democrats will seize on given the importance of abortion rights on the democratic side of the aisle, and not willing to explain his plan on mass deportations, something he has been running on for more than eight years now. >> and even as he continues, garrett, and you know this so well to say that the abortion issue is back with the states, he thinks that placates. and certainly it does. there are swing voters, we have met them, expressed concern about what the patch work of rules across the country is doing to women seeking care. i think the thing in this moment that is important to remember is that this was always going to be a neck in neck race. so much has happened over the last several weeks, and you look at the polling and it's still neck in neck. if change the top of the democratic ticket has shaken this thing free of the typical guardrails, can anything at this

point? >> both campaigns will publicly and privately say that they have always known this was going to be a close race. and regardless of what happens, they still expect this to be the case. that's not surprising. when you talk to democrats, and i think you saw the former president a bit frustrated about this, and that's why he held this news conference today, they do say they feel, and again, elections, it's worth noting, are not won on vibes, right. they're won on turning out your core voters to the polls, and persuading that small sliver of voters, and the blue wall states who matter. but there is an enthusiasm and an excitement and a certain joyfulness, again, in this moment for vice president harris and governor walz that was not present before, and that's what democrats of course are hoping to harness and former president trump, as garrett mentioned, the

one attack that could potentially have sticking power is this idea that harris is not willing to take questions from the press of all the stuff that i saw him throw at her in this news conference. it's not necessarily that the american public particularly cares or particularly likes the american press as we all know. just this idea that she's scared. she's hiding. she's in a basement. she's not okay if she has to talk about policy or explain herself, this is an argument that democrats have privately told me is savvy by the trump people and the harris campaign will have to find a way to deal with. >> one of the big points of news is it seems there will be debates. do you think this is welcome news that the harris campaign wants to hear? it sounds like she said this earlier in the week. you have something to say, say it to my face. >> that's right, and we have almost seen the harris campaign bait the former president into

agreeing to this debate after we saw him agree to that september 10th debate with abc with president biden, and then say that because kamala harris hadn't officially become the democratic nominee, this was a couple of weeks ago, say that he wasn't willing to face off against her in a debate, and the harris campaign has used the former president's words against him, blasting him on social media, using these platforms to pressure him into this moment. it's likely we see the harris campaign respond positively to the new commitments by former president trump. this is something they have been holding him to his former words the last few weeks. >> something that didn't come up that i thinks i was anticipating because we have heard it so much from j.d. vance on the campaign trail is about tim walz trying to go after his military

service. you have done a lot ft o of reporting on this. what's real, what's not? break it down. >> there's three main things that j.d. vance has attacked, and frankly other supporters of the trump/vance campaign have attacked governor walz on. the first one is his rank. if you look at his official bio, he was the command sergeant major in the national guard when he retired. he was serving as the battalion command major. he was going through an academy to be able to attain the full rank of command sergeant major when he retired in 2005. he did not fulfill his time in grade or the educational requirements needed to retire. he was a master sergeant. it's true to say he served as a command sergeant major for a battalion. that's issue one. the second one is one we have heard j.d. vance use the term

stolen valor. that's a term used, become almost defined as someone claiming to have military service or sort of talking about their military service in a way that is untrue. that is one of the arguments j.d. vance has made. talking about governor walz' time in the minnesota national guard, he actually did deploy in support of operation enduring freedom. that was, at the time, the mission in afghanistan in 2003. he deployed to italy as part of the overall mission there. so it is fair to say that he deployed in support of the mission but did not actually go into afghanistan. the other part is the one that has gained a little bit more traction in recent days, and that is this argument that governor walz retired from the military, from the minnesota national guard only months before his battalion deployed to

iraq. this is where it gets a little sticky, though. there is a time line that specifically lays out when his unit -- we just saw it on the screen there -- when his unit was notified they would be mobilizing or going to another base to sort of do their workups and get ready for deployment in advance of a deployment to iraq. you can see there governor walz actually put in for his retirement and officially retired in may 2005. his battalion was alerted they would be deployed in july, several months later. the argument of those who served in the unit, he knew he was going to go to iraq. this would be a tight time line. generally it takes longer than that, especially if you have been in for 24 years, as he had at that point. it's not impossible but it's very difficult.

what this all comes down to on the last point is really his own motivation at the time. this is something we have to ask governor walz about. until then, we don't know what his reason was at that time. >> save this explanation. save that graphic that we had on the screen. clearly this is going to be one of the lines we have to come back to and talk about. thank you for that. thank you for joining us and breaking it all down. joining us now, former special assistant to president biden and former director of message planning megan hayes, and former pennsylvania republican congressman and senior adviser at our republican legacy. charlie dent. is anything we heard from trump today enough to restart his political momentum and is that the tone in which he should have been kind of going into this new chapter and phase of the campaign with? >> he's trying to bring

attention to himself. i don't know that he was particularly effective today. he kept talking about crowd size, kamala harris isn't that bright. the usual types of things he ordinarily says. i don't think he did a whole lot of good today. other than he put himself out there to take questions, will she stand up and take questions like he did for over an hour. overall, i don't think it's changing much. i think they're making a mistake going after tim walz on his military service, 24 years in the national guard. donald trump evaded service in vietnam, and said that he was trying to make sure he evaded getting stds. it was his own words. i'm not sure it's a particularly effective attack. at least we're talking about donald trump today and not kamala harris. maybe that's a victory for him in some way. >> you're right. to trump it's a good thing we're talking about him. the smart money among political operatives is as long as trump is quiet, it helps him and keeps the focus elsewhere. one of the things that he talked

about, he didn't mince words about the stakes of this 2024 election. watch. >> if trump wins, no, i'm not confident at all. i mean, if trump loses, i'm not confident at all. he means what he says. we don't take him seriously. he means it. all the stuff about if we lose, it will be a blood bath. >> in response to that, we heard trump say it will be a peaceful transfer of power, and it was last time. of course we know what happened on january 6th. is this the role that biden can best play as a supporter to harris, playing the role of the man who wants to hold democracy together? >> he's been on the forefront of that. his campaign in '24 was about as well. saving democracy. he is reminding the american people the contrast that is at the ballot for kamala harris versus donald trump. i think that he's reminding folks that donald trump means

what he say, he does not believer in a peaceful transfer of power, laying the ground work for a stolen election. i think the president can go out there, and you know, back up the vice president now, and sing her praises and remind the american people the contrast of who's running. >> we're watching trump get back in the fray, try to redefine the new ticket that he's running against. you look at the forums. he's done interviews online, on tv, but he's trying to get back on the campaign trail. most of the events he has done, the one in montana as well as others have been in places he has won and done well. at what point does he have to wade into swingier states and taking the message there, charlie. >> he tends to go to areas. he was in harrisburg. that's a swing area. butler county. that's a red area of pennsylvania. he does go into swing states.

he tends to go into communities where he can draw a crowd that's favorable to him. he went to the bronx to speak to people of color. he tries to speak to voters in other communities that have not historically been aligned with republicans. i think that's quite smart. the problem for donald trump is most of his rhetoric doubles down on his maga base. he does little to reach out to say the haley voter or other swing voters who he often times mocks and insults. i think that's a challenge. he's running a disciplined campaign, but he's an undisciplined candidate and these two things collide all the time just as they did last week in the interview with the black journalists. that is a complete fiasco. and his team pulled him out. he's trying to do the right thing, talking to a constituency

that's not ordinarily with him. >> the wavering discipline has been the story line of the trump campaign for as long as i was on the trail from 2015 through now. but charlie brings something up about the role of independents and swing voters. a new cnbc poll shows independents breaking for harris 40-36%. 20% remain undecided but her lead is four points lower than biden's in our july survey. is this a matter of voters needing to know her better or the challenge that harris has more of in a way biden didn't with independents. >> i think she's reintroducing herself to the american people. they are out there on the campaign trail. this will be decided in seven states, 10,000 or so voters are going to decide this election. they are out there, talking about policies. they are doing what they need to do to reintroduce themselves. the momentum is in their favor. they are talking about the

future, showing people hope and optimism in a way that the biden campaign did not have that momentum. it's just watching trump, you know, it's a stark contrast of watching that press conference and watching the rally from yesterday with the governor and the vice president. it's just a stark difference. and i think that people don't want to look backwards. they do not want to talk about 2020 being stolen or how everyone has wronged donald trump. they want to know how people are going to help them. gas prices lower, and their milk lower, they are worried about putting their kids in school and getting a good education. i think the vice president and the governor are out there making people, you know, see their policies and being positive and forward leaning. >> sounds like we're going to get to see the contrast. there has been a will there or won't there posture. trump said now, he's agreed to three debates, but september is a bit of a ways away. do you think it benefits him to do this, or is there a risk getting on the debate stage not once, not twice but three times with kamala harris. >> there's always a risk getting

on the debate stage with donald trump. he's erratic and can say all kinds of crazy things. i think he understands, that is different race. he didn't need to debate joe biden after the first one. this is a different race. kamala harris is in. she's surging, she's got momentum. he needs to tamp that down, slow it down. i think it's smart for him to debate. it's interesting to watch him today. actually, where i thought he did well, talking about policy, the strategic petroleum reserve. he does better when he does that. he has no discipline, keeps going off on the tangents and the governor of georgia. harris isn't smart. the add attacks. you don't know if he's going to control himself. he did well against biden. he was more controlled in that environment. we have seen him in other circumstances. he's just out of control and you just don't know what's going to

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the newly minted harris/walz campaign, larry sabato's crystal ball, shifted races. joining us, presidential historian and editor in chief of the crystal ball, larry sabato. your report notes that it appears harris has stopped the bleeding that came from president biden's first debate bringing the overall race back to a tie just ahead of the dnc later this month. is there a possibility that she can pull ahead with some post dnc bump, and would that even take her out of the margin of error? >> that's what we're looking for because she's already tied. in fact, there have been seven pretty reliable bipartisan or nonpartisan polls of either swing states or nationally in the last 36 hours or so. and every one of them shows either a tie or trump ahead by

one or harris up by one, two, three. including in some surprising states like the one we move, georgia. aarp has a bipartisan team of pollsters and they've got it now dead tied 48-48. even more impressablely, a poll out of arizona, a high ground, as it's called, has kamala harris up by three. joe biden never led once in arizona for many months prior to his withdrawal. so clearly, she has moved into a tie. then you've got a five or six day paid commercial from the dnc, from the democratic national convention, as long as the convention goes well and doesn't turn out like chicago is the 68, i think she will get another bump. how big it is, who knows. >> and certainly, we always look for that post convention bump for either party. while we're talking about key sates like georgia and arizona, kamala harris and her running

mate tim walz are there, as you can see on your screen, in detroit, in michigan. that's shawn fain, the united auto workers head speaking there at the podium ahead of them. of course much attention has been paid to the role that union voters will play here. if i can shift back to the other battleground states that you have been doing work on and that we have been talking about here by switching that rating in georgia to a toss up, what impact and what does it mean for other purple or reddish purple states in the south? i'm thinking north carolina specifically, a state that the biden/harris campaign, and the harris walz campaign was spend ing a lot of time talking about. >> we're focusing on north carolina a lot. not just because i live in virginia and grew up on the north carolina border. remember, that's the state that joe biden lost in 2020, but it was his closest losing state, and north carolina has recently been very very tight. so you're talking about a point or two. what could possibly tip it

toward harris? obviously the enthusiasm factor matters, as it did for obama, who narrowly carried north carolina back in 2008, but there's another factor there that really is, i think, going to be critical. the governor's race, the republican's nominated someone, lieutenant governor mark robinson so far to the right that even mainstream republicans are starting to have doubts or moving away, whether they vote for josh stein, the attorney general, the democratic nominee is another question, we've got a long time to go. there can be such a thing as reverse coat tails. we're also looking for this in arizona, because of kerry lake, the republican nominee for senate there who's also viewed as extreme and lost the governor's race two years ago. >> i have definitely heard that concern about reverse coat tails from folks in the trump orbit, as it relates to arizona. again we're keeping an eye on what's going on in detroit. as i was listening to the former

president today, larry, trump repeated that he's doing well with white male voters, that's not new. white men becoming more conservative has driven the gender gap in national politics for years, but it's also no secret to democrats. where can this part of the trump coalition, specifically with white male voters be offset by democrats and where should they be shifting their focus as they build a new coalition? >> that's a great question. democrats should not be abandoned white males. i say that as a white male. i'm telling you, you divide them into two, college educated white males, and noncollege educated white males. i think noncollege white males may be a lost cause, given the short amount of time between now and november. but college educated white men are not a lost cause, and the abortion issue, the overturning of roe v. wade is actually critical for them too. they're very interested in that issue. as far as where kamala harris can make up the ground, she's

already doing it with young people in particular. those between 18 and 29, it's not just that more of them are supporting her, it's that they're much more enthusiastic and their turnout rate will be higher. of course, women, generally, not of any particular race, all women and hispanics, she's showing that some of these trends that people were talking about at great length were really a matter of trump versus biden. they're not so important with trump versus harris. >> a lot for us to look out for. i'm specifically very interested in how that gender gap ends up revealing itself come november. larry sabato, thank you for joining us. we're going to keep an eye on what's happening at the harris/walz rally in detroit. still ahead, what we know about the teenage suspects behind a foiled terror attack on taylor swift's vienna shows, and what investigators found inside one of their homes. plus, where team usa stands

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we have new details on the intelligence tip that helped stop a terror attack on a taylor swift concert in vienna. nbc news reports the u.s. was first to alert austrian authorities about the potential attack leading to the arrest of two teenagers. the main suspect, a 19-year-old austrian confessed his plan to

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austrian authorities, as many as possible. it's the worst nightmare of counter terrorism. this lone wolf plot not connected actually to actual isis people and when they searched his home they found explosives and a machete. this was a person prepared to do violence. >> what does this mean for other events going forward. not just taylor swift, i've been to this concert twice now and these are massive events and coldplay's expected to be in this exact stadium two weeks from now. what is this expected to be like going going forward? >> so far authorities are saying they have no reason to believe that these concerts should be affected and they've contained the threat with these two suspects, but the terror threat in austria remains at a high level. >> if you're looking ahead to taylor swift's concerts, for example, she has a long slate of shows in london. those officials are taking extra precaution. >> there is a heightened threat

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it's day 13 of the paris olympics and the united states still leads with the most medals and now has the most golds, too. runner quincy hall took home one of those golds in the nail-biting stretch of the 400-meter race passing three men in the last six seconds of the event to win gold yesterday. today three competed in the 200-meter race including the fastest man in the world noah lyles who left the track in a wheelchair. right now the men's basketball team is facing off against serbia in the semifinals going for their fifth straight gold. joining us now nbc news

correspondent stephanie gosk. stephanie, what happened on the track today and why was lyles in a wheelchair? >> this was supposed to be his stronger of the two races so people thought he was going to win this one. when it was over he had a hard time staying on his feet and he asked for water. he later said he tested positive for covid on tuesday, and he still felt like he was able to run the race. he said he was very proud of himself for the way that he ran it, but obviously, not a noah lyles who is up to the kinds of expectations people had for him, but there is some good news from track and field. you had sydney mclaughlin-levrone, she broke the record and got the gold and grant holloway just got the gold medal. so track and field has been the center of success for team usa, that's for sure.

>> excitement in track and field and meanwhile, the men's basketball team is playing serbia right now against the nba's mvp, nikola jokic. how does the u.s. stack up? they have mvps of their own. >> they do. they are the favorites, but this is a tough game and they are losing unless they've come back in the last five minutes that i've been wiring up to talk to you. it's been a really tough game and jokic is amazing. as you mentioned the mvp in the last three out of the four years, actually. so this is probably the stiffest competition that they've faced. and everyone is biting their nails a little bit. they're supposed to be going to the finals. >> supposed to be going to the finals, we will see as we literally watch how that game is playing out. stephanie gosk, you've been at the olympics the whole time, anything down the stretch that we should be looking out for? >> yes. women's soccer on saturday.

they're playing in the finals. it is a new generation for women's soccer. they're in the finals and going for gold. it's a young team. they've been incredibly successful. there are a lot of fun, exciting players. so that is going to be a good one to watch for sure,ali. >> trinity rodman is such a firecracker on the field. i love watching her. stephanie gosk i am so jealous you get to be there, and i hope you get to the soccer match. >> i hope. >> i will keep my fingers crossed for you, when you are not watching soccer, what else are you looking for and what should i be tuning my television to before saturday? >> i mean, listen, keep your eyes on track and field. they'll be continuing to compete there, but also you have breaking for the first time in the olympics. it will be interesting to see how that works. it's a dance, right? it is really an art form.

how are they going to score it? you know, how is it all going to work out? it's certainly going to be fun to watch. i'm looking forward to seeing that play out. it starts tomorrow and then on saturday they have medals. >> stephanie gosk, thank you for doing this dance with us. enjoy paris. that's it for me today. "deadline: white house" starts right now. ♪♪ ♪♪ hi, everyone. it's 4:00 in the east. vice president kamala harris is right now addressing the uaw in wayne, michigan. let's listen in. >> -- always fought for those ideals, and we know we are a work in progress. we haven't yet quite reached all of those ideals, but we will die trying because we love our country and we believe in who we are. [ applause ] and that's what our campaign is about.

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