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tonight on "the reidout" -- >> dinner a little late tonight, dear? >> patience, papa. had to straighten out my dressing table. somebody or something tipped over my bottle of hand lotion. powder was spilled all over and my pancake makeup is missing. >> don't say someone is trying to sabotage your natural heaven sent beauty. >> oh, yes, june cleaver, the quent sensual submissive homemaker and mom from the 1950s. seven decades later, it is still how the republican party wants women to be. not so on the democratic side, where the new slogan is "we're not going back." i'll be joined by one of america's most powerful women ever, speaker emerita nancy pelosi, to talk about that and the historic presidential candidacy of the vice president of the united states, kamala

harris. >> also tonight, as the harris campaign picks up momentum and an historic endorsement, we need to have a conversation about how we in the media cover trump. but we begin tonight with a moment that explains a lot about donald trump. remember this photo from october 2019? then speaker of the house nancy pelosi confronting then president trump in the cabinet room during a contentious meeting with the rest of the table, all older white men, averting their eyes. that picture became iconic, symbolizing the strength of arguably the most powerful house speaker in modern history. nancy pelosi has repeatedly demonstrated boat her ability and bold fearlessness in wielding political power. whether it was muscling through the affordable care act, aka obamacare, expanding health care for americans. or getting the cares act passed, the historic stimulus package that included the famous stimmy

checks that donald trump gets undue credit for. she did that. she's responsible for the most productive lame duck session in u.s. history, in late 2010, after democrats lost the house and the senate. and its waning days, congress pazzed a repeal of the military's don't ask don't tell policy for lgbtq troops, passed tax cuts, a bill for september 11th survivors, and approved a nuclear arms treaty with russia. trump was in the white house and once -- sorry, once donald trump was in the white house, nancy pelosi as house minority leader became a symbol of resistance to his overreach. there was the 2018 oval office meeting shortly after the democrats took the house in a blue wave that year when trump threatened to shut down the government over money for his racist border wall. among her other iconic moments, her infamous red coat and sunglasses after that meeting and her response to trump's state of the union as speaker. and of course, her leadership in

the face of mortal danger on january 6th as trump's insurrectionist mob attacked the u.s. capitol. >> you ask me in the middle of the thing when they have already breached the inaugural stuff that should we call the capitol police? i mean, the national guard? why weren't the national guard there to begin with? >> we were disappointed that it took so long to approve the national guard. but i'm glad to hear that's at least moving. >> now, in her speaker emerita era, pelosi is still wielding her considerable influence. she was the primary voice behind the push to get president biden to withdraw from the presidential race, triggering anger and relief. since biden exited the race, the reunified democratic party has lined up behind his chosen successor, vice president kamala harris, a game of chess between these two power players in america's game of thrones.

and let's be clear, there's no other political figure powerful or respected enough to take on a sitting president than nancy pelosi. simply put, other than vice president kamala harris herself, nancy pelosi has been the most powerful woman in american politics ever. and we all know donald trump has a problem with powerful women. that photo i showed you earlier, donald trump was the one who tweeted it out. no reporters were in the room, but his ham-fisted attempt, his alpha male bull aing to try to insult her backfired and got the hashtag #pelosi owns trump trending on pre-elon twitter. now he's releasing his misogyny on harris, with the help of jd vance, whose demagoguery of childless cat ladies has become his brand, that and something about couches. ms. magazine says misogyny

defines how republicans talk about devaluing women as a political identity. which was clear from donald trump yesterday. >> she's a woman. she represents certain groups of people. she doesn't know how to do a news conference. she's not smart enough to do a news conference. we need smart people to lead this country. >> joining me now is peeker emerita nancy pelosi, author of "the art of power, my story as america's first woman speaker of the house." thank you for being here. i want to let you respond to that. donald trump did that repeatedly yesterday. tried to denigrate the vice president of the united states as not smart. a former attorney general and united states senator. your thoughts. >> well, first of all, thank you. it's wonderful to be with you. and i accept every compliment you paid me on behalf of the house democrats whose courage and unity made all of that possible. in terms of him, you know what, i really -- i think we just have to focus on kamala harris.

in a little while, we will see her speaking to 20,000 people, showing up in arizona, and people being turned away. kamala harris and tim walz. she is going -- she is a person of deep thanks, strong principles in terms of personally and officially. she knows her issues, she knows her priorities. you see that with all of the issues but most recently women's right to choose, and she's politically astute. she wrapped this up. let's just talk about her as the best person to run and lead us to victory as president of the united states. she happens to be a woman. and that's icing on the cake, but the fact is, she's the strongest and the best and that's why she's in the position that she is in. politically, she engineered what we thought was going to be an open process, and it was, but people didn't sign up because

she wrapped it up so soon. so i am so thrilled, so happy. i don't pay attention to what he has to say. it's pathetic. this is an election about change, and let that change be we don't have to listen to that anymore. >> you know, what i thought about that is number one, you are so easy with disparaing and dismissing donald trump. but you also don't let people like that intimidate you. i do want to talk a little bit about, you're both -- you emerged from that san francisco political world. of course, you're from baltimore, but you came up in san francisco. and there's something about the bay area. let me just list them. the great late great harvey milk, dianne feinstein, jerry brown, the former governor, yourself, speaker pelosi, gaver newsome, the current governor, and of course, vice president harris. what are they putting in the water in the bay area that creates so many powerful people? >> don't forget barbara boxer.

i'm so proud of her as well. one of the things that is in the water is that we're an intellectual resource on almost every issue you can name, whether you're talking about saving the planet, saving our rights. fairness in every way, and our economy. but we also respect each other. we all are not all in the same place on the spectrum. we don't always agree, but we respect each other, and we do not take down anybody. so we're always building strength. and that strength has taken us. now, kamala, you have to give her credit. she is politically astute. she won a tough district attorney race. she won a tough attorney general race. and then of course, it got easier for the speaker -- excuse me, the senate race. and now, running for president of the united states. so officially strong. personally, you know, personally a person of values. and politically astute.

>>. >> we like to think that whether it's in the water or it's in the air, or it's just in our tradition in the bay area, we're very proud of the positions we take and the friendships we develop and the respect we have for differences of opinion. >> well, it probably helps that you're a state that cares about clean water and clean air. you try to fight pollution and climate change. that probably helps as well. you wrote in your book about the advice you give women and future politicians. the best advice i received when i initially ran for congress was be yourself. be true to yourself, your values and who you are, and be ready. you never know when the opportunity will come knocking. the final piece of advice is the first piece of advice i received years before i ran. that is, know your power. i love that line because you have never been embarrassed about or afraid to as a woman wielding power. how can we get more women to understand that?

that there's nothing wrong with a woman wielding power, we don't have to be june cleaver. >> well, let me just, before i answer that, just go back to something you said earlier about the power that i have had. people say to me, you're the most powerful woman. i cannot wait to relinquish that honor pretty soon, we will have a woman president of the united states. not just because she's a woman, but because she is the best person for the job. i say to people, confidence is really important. and women should take pride in whatever experience they have. because they're the only person like themselves. i say to women, there's nobody like you in the history of the world. so know that individuality, know the authenticity that you bring. have confidence in that. be yourself. again, and also know the power of you. and be ready because you never know. i never had any intention of running for office and here i

am, housewife, house member, house speaker, and now fighting the fight to have kamala harris be president of the united states. tim walz vice president. i'm so excited about it all. >> i can tell. i can tell. you know, there is something that, you know, and look, i don't like to dignify the silly things trump says as serious things, but you know, the republicans are now trying to raise an issue. you know they want to litigate this election. they don't want it to be won at the ballot box. they want it to be lost by democrats in the courts. they seem prepared to litigate the process by which vice president harris became the nominee, even though she was literally on all of those primary ballots. are you concerned that no matter how enthusiastic the voters are and how this goes, republicans are going to try to drag it back to john roberts and the right wing supreme court or the republican house to try to force the election into territory where they're stronger which is essentially take the election from the american people? >> well, you know, they're

bankrupt of ideas for helping people at the kitchen table. the only thing they did when they had the majority and the presidency was pass a tax bill to get 83% of benefits to the top 1%. at the same time, having the worst job creation record since herbert hoover, while joe biden came in, 15 million jobs, again, lowering the unemployment rate and the rest. he is a fabulous, fabulous president. so since they have nothing to offer to the kitchen table about health care or job creation or so many things that relate to clean air, clean water, for children, the list goes on, they have to resort to gimmicks. to gimmicks. and that's what they always have done. but we're ready. we don't agonize about them. we organize. and that's what is happening now. joe biden is a tremendous consequential president of the united states. he's endorsing kamala. she'll go forward as a great

president of the united states. and we have to, of course, we were ready with how we dealt with the changing our nominee and the rest. and i mean, i do agree that the supreme court has gone rogue and i don't know about john roberts. i think he's gone rogue or weak, whatever it is, but we cannot let the fate of the nation be dependent on the politics on their side. you said i was from baltimore. i was in baltimore last night, and i told them, i said, i say this all over the country about my baltimore roots. the national anthem was written in baltimore. and my favorite line in it is in especially now, proof through the night that our flag was still there. i know everybody cheers at the end, but i cheer when they say that. proof through the night. we're in the night. we have to prove through the night that our flag is still there with liberty and justice for all.

what they are doing is scrambling around for some way to confuse people about things. the fact is we are going to have clarity of where we're going with all of this. and kamala is going to lead us and tim are going to lead us to victory. >> before i let you go, how is your lovely husband? he's been through a lot, and you have talked about it, and we didn't have time to get into talking about that, but how is he doing? paul, wonderful paul. >> he's coming along okay. thank you so much for asking. i know it will mean a lot to him. he admires you. he's coming along. almost it will be two years at the end of october. they say in two years, everything should be okay. and so he's doing what he needs to do. but thank you so much. and i feel so good. where is nancy, where is nancy? that's what they said in our home. that's what they said in the capitol. liberty and justice for all, our flag is still there. that's our job. >> speaker emerita nancy pelosi, who defended the capitol on january 6th, when the president

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visit this week and the first out west. ahead of the visit the campaign released a new ad on a chi issue, immigration. >> kamala harris has spent decades fighting violent crime, as a border state prosecutor, she took on drug cartels and jailed gang members for smuggling weapons and drugs across the border. as vice president, she backed the toughest border control bill in decades. and as president, she will hire thousands more border agents and crack down on fentanyl and human trafficking. fixing the border is tough. so is kamala harris. >> all of this comes as the harris/walz ticket picked up an historic endorsement from the political arm of the oldest latino civil rights group. it's the group's first endorsement of any political candidate in its 95-year history. joining me now is basil smikle, democratic strategist and msnbc political analyst, and dean obeidallah. msnbc columnist and host of the

dean obeidallah show on sirius xm. that's a big deal. lulac doesn't actually endorse candidates. back when i was working in the business, that would have been a great thing for these previous candidates to have. what is the relevance of that indorement, particularly as the campaign heads to arizona and of that immigration ad? >> well, to start off, i think it touches on something that nancy pelosi said earlier. that these are really -- donald trump has this way of putting this pall over america, this darkness. when you look at the endorsement, talking about immigrant communities and migrant communities and the way that he is, the murderers, the rapists that he's always talked about them as, it goes to the importance and the urgency of this moment to try to rewrite and revoers that entire narrative and get really smart policy making on the table. that's why that ad is so

important and critical. it shows that she would be both tough but also compassionate. and also bringing in the human trafficking and fentanyl is incredibly important. and i would also add that i believe that latino voters are now, she's doing better among latino voters that even joe biden did. that means arizona and nevada are in play in ways they were not before. extremely important moment for the campaign. she holds this really tough line. you know, it could mean success in november. >> and also, by the way, i just saw a poll today that she's polling ahead in miami-dade, which was starting to go redder and redder. i mean, dean, there's sort of a thing in talk radio and also in politics that you can't talk people out of what they believe. you can argue with them, but it's hard to talk people down from it. there is a paranoa and anger about the border in the country that is disproportionate to the number of people coming in, border crossings are down. you cannot argue these facts

with people. people have developed this anger about the border. do you thing it's significant and do you hear this on the radio with your callers and what do you make of the strategy to go right at it? >> look, donald trump every night is scapegoating and demonizing latino community and migrants. that's part of the reason, i love this announcement, this endorsement. lulac is trying to wake up america. things are not normal. we are doing something we have never done in 100 years as an organization. in the statement, it's not just for our community. it's for our democracy. that's why they're doing this. you have donald trump out there saying migrants are bringing crime. you know who's bringing crime? donald trump is bringing crime. hey, i'm the convicted felon who was an adjudicated rapist. he should have to report to the authorities everywhere he goes. he doesn't. i think this is vitally important. the immigration issue, it plays well. the number one issue is inflation. there's a new ad that kamala

harris talks about greedflation. sherrod brown and bob casey are doing that in ohio and pennsylvania. it's working. it resonates. to me, that's a bigger issue than immigration to get our base out to vote. >> by the way, donald trump is planning to round up migrants, but you think they're going to be super discerning about which brown people they're putting in the camps. latino voters for trump, think about it. they're just going to grab brown people. we were talking with speaker emerita pelosi. i want to play this lie that donald trump did in his string of lies yesterday that weird, you know, sundowning press conference he did. this is a story he told about willie brown. and i want you all to note that he talked about willie brown. all right. take a listen. >> i know willie brown very well. in fact, i went down in a helicopter with him. we thought maybe this was the end. he told me terrible things about

her. >> okay, that's not who he meant. trump was never in a helicopter with willie brown. willie brown came out with a statement. he laughed when he heard trump's allegations and said he has nothing but respect for admiration for vice president harris. he says he looks forward to electing her to be president and the debate will probably be unfair because trump is so inept. the brown that he meant, dean, was jerry brown. jerry brown, who was the governor, but said he's never said anything bad about vice president harris either. it was gavin newsom who was in a helicopter with trump when they were serving wildfire damage, and he said he remembers trump worrying about the helicopter crashing, and suggesting california rake its forests. trump never had an emergency landing in a helicopter. so he got the wrong person. he completely missed the person it really was about. he doesn't know the difference between willie brown and jerry brown. why are we not having a serious

conversation about his cognitive decline? that was sundowning. >> when i watched that press conference, i thought should we call somebody? something is really wrong here. this is not even political. there's something deeply wrong. is he just lying like normal are we in a new world of delusional. i think that's where we were heading, and that's where we are. nothing makes sense and he has no one around him who will fact check him to his face. saying, you know what, that's not right? because if you do, you're gone. this is a very dangerous place. i think it's great you're raising it. we have to. >> let's do one more thing over here with you, bezel. trump going all in on these weird lonely young dudes who hate women, he did an interview. can we show the dancing? i don't understand it. he's mad at joe rogan and tim poole because they have been endorsing rfk jr. i hope we have the dancing video. no? just imagine it in your mind.

donald trump doing his this. he thinks that's cool. >> i have seen it. >> every day, he looks older. every day, he looks older. and more feeble. >> he does, and i'm glad that we're talking about it because he should be called out with the same energy that folks talked about this with respect to jooid. even though it's not the same. >> biden's marbles are still in there. >> that's my point. donald trump, you said the sundowning and it did seem like that. my whole feed was, what is this guy talking about in? the fact that he's actually now concerned about joe rogan and that he's coming out against him because of the rfk thing. you know, to me, it really does show that they don't know what to do. everything they tried, it's not sticking. >> it's not working. very quickly, in 15 seconds, we didn't get to it, but i wanted to ask you, dean, what did you

make of vice president harris' response to the protester yesterday? good change, change the response? >> i think it was better than the conversation behind the stage. i'm a comedian. hecklers are very hard. you can't have a conversation. by the way, with trump, this is now elder abuse. we have entered the world of elder abuse. does anybody love him. talk to him and tell him to go play golf and stop this election stuff. >> yeah, i wanted to get that out. she did meet with a different set of people who were from the uncommitted room before that happened. thank you very much. coming up, how the media is covering donald trump with less than 90 days to go before the election. election dupixent can help people with asthma breathe better in as little as 2 weeks. so this is better. even this. dupixent is an add-on treatment for specific types of moderate-to-severe asthma that's not for sudden breathing problems. dupixent can cause allergic reactions that can be severe. tell your doctor right away if you have rash, chest pain,

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it would be hard to find a sentence in what donald trump said today that did not include at least one lie. the stupidest person who has ever won a nomination for president stood there in front of those reporters and said his opponent isn't smart enough to do what he was failing at right in front of those reporters. >> that was the awesome lawrence o'donnell's commentary last night following trump's 90-minute lie fest. i would note most networks did not go live to vice president harris addressing the united autoworkers members in detroit. but in fairness, most did play clips of it.

what lawrence's commentary brought up was the most salient question for the media in the 87 remaining days of this election cycle. how to cover trump and how to cover vice president harris and our responsibility in doing so. because these trump spectacles tend to be chock full of lies, nonsense, and misogyny. she is not cloistered off from the media. here she is approaching reporter. you see the plane behind her. ever wonder why it's so big? because it has to fit her staff, aides, and also reporters. they sit in their own section. i have literally sat in that plane. while i did it one time, a traveling press corps follows the vice president everywhere she goes. they have been with her all week. they fly on air force two with her, they interact with her and ask hr questions when she gets on and off the plane. and here's another thing. when vp harris does walk up to reporters, these are the kind of questions she often gets asked. >> president trump had a pres conference today. he talked about a lot of things.

wonder if you have a reaction? >> i'm glad he's finally agreed to a debate on september 10th. i'm looking forward to it. and hope he shows up. >> are you open to more debates? >> i'm happy to have that conversation about an additional debate after september 10th. >> some of the criticism has been about your vice presidential pick and his leaving the national guard at 24 years. vance said that he deserted hiown troops, his own colleagues. what's your take on that? >> listen, i praise anyone who has presented themselves to serve our country. and i think that we all should. >> ah, yes, every question framed around trump. joining me is jelani cobb, dean of columbia journalism school and a staff writer for the new yorker. very handy to have the dean of columbia journalism school around. thank you for being here. my question is, a bit frustrating for me as a member of this profession, is so much of the way that we talk to and

interview, for instance, vice president harris or any opponent of trump is to take the things trump has said about them, which have no basis in fact, and then make that person respond to them. when there are so many independent separate things we could ask. what are your thoughts? >> so here's a few. there are a few things that are wrong with this scenario. the first being that when you repeat disinformation, even if it is to dispel misinformation, what you wind up doing is re-enforcing disinformation. and so you have to be very careful with a candidate with the record of mendacity that donald trump has in terms of what you say and what you broadcast and especially when you're broadcasting a question like that to the other person. the other is that this is the kind of lowest form of political journalism. you know, very much like trying to prompt two kids on a school playground to fight. like, did you hear what this

person said about you? and then you go back and say what the other person said. and then you wait to see what happens at 3:00. there's little significance other than maybe a kind of brief sensational bite that you might generate from that. as opposed to the really serious questions you could have used that time asking about gaza, you could use that time asking about the economy. you could have used that time asking about reproductive rights. about a whole array of things that are going to have a significant impact on people's lives. as opposed to, i mean, really, fundamentally, who cares what the opponent thinks of your vice presidential pick. i can tell you, there has never been in the history of the american presidency or the campaigns for the presidency anyone who has run out with open arms and just said, i think they made the best vice presidential pick they could, and i could see this person should actually win the election now. >> there you go.

and i would -- 90 minutes of donald trump doing a press conference, nobody asked about project 2025. nobody asked about his remaining court cases or his 37-count felony. nobody asked if he thinks he's going to be sent to prison. he was not asked if he would release his medical records. he did have one question about his ear being healed. he said he's a quick healer. no pushback on his false claims about vice president harris' black identity or about her intelligence. she's literally the vice president of the united states. and no yegzs about minority voters. he was asked at least by rachel scott, thank god, why should voters vote for you given all the horrible things you said. 90 minutes, none of that came up. that's a problem. >> he was asked, are you going to do press conferences? so what, are you going to do press conferences as president. >> i would also reiterate the fact that he did not answer that question. the question that rachel scott posed to him about why black voters -- he attacked her, which is what he tends to do with a

difficult question and completely, you know, kind of don't look at what i'm doing with this hand kind of magic trick. and so people gasp at the fact that he had said such insulting things, but he never answered that question. and i think that ideally in a service like that, you reiterate that question again and again and again. there were three people on stage, the second person should have picked up that question, so should the third person until you got an answer or the person walked away. so it's really, the other part of it, one of the things i thought was most resonant about what lawrence said is flowing from the exact same sort of coverage that happened in 2016. to just allow the fire hose of unedited commentary, you know, very feeble attempt at correcting any of the kind of voluminous misstatements,

misinformation, complete fabrications and so on. none of that really happens. so we fall down on the job every time we do that. i think it's a really, at this point, the learning curve looks like a flat line. >> the other piece, and this is quick. i have a great sound bite i don't have time to play, but there's a tone thing. there's a level of deference shown to donald trump, a quiet way of dealing with him where no one shouts at him as opposed to people literally shouting at president biden, shouting down karine jean-pierre. she gets screamed at. that never happened to trump's people in the briefing room. why do you suppose, is it because democrats seem to be like they're not going to lock you up and throw you in jail so we don't have to treat you with this weird autocrat deference. for trump, it's silence as he speaks. >> it's strange. there's a kind of mental self editing i have noticed in other circumstances as it relates to him. some of it may be his bluster

and bullying. some may be gender bias and sexism. there's a whole array of different possibilities here, but i have absolutely noticed that kind of unwarranted degree of deference. >> yeah, it's an odd thing that we should correct because he's just a guy. he's a dude with a golf thing in florida that has golden toilets. he's nothing special. jelani cobb, thank you very much. coming up, everyone's favorite modern relative, jesse tyler ferguson joins me to talk about his new documentary with msnbc, it's okay, when delves into the right's fixation with drag queen story hours and not because they're fun and want to attend them. i don't understand that. you do not want to misthis conversation. you do not want to misthis conversation my recommendation is simple: every home should have salonpas. powerful yet non-addictive. targeted and long-lasting. i recommend salonpas. it's good medicine. ♪ hisamitsu ♪ i would say that we're closer than ithe average mother daughter. hi mom! if i lost my mom... i can't think about that for too long.

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targeting drag events. still, on the face of this increasing hate and hostility, there's been an increased visibility for exactly what maga crusaders are fighting to take away. it's okay, a documentary that premieres sunday night, this sunday night on msnbc, is all about embracing differences in small town america. it follows two young brothers who observe and absorb their first drag story hour. >> how are we today, everyone? >> yeah. thank you. you look beautiful, too. we're both in purple. >> yeah. >> can we play a game? >> yeah. >> if you have ever been to one of my story hours you know exactly what shalita says is. >> do i have to? >> can i go over like to one of these stands? >> like five minutes. >> remember, you only do it if i

say shalita says. can we practice? all right. sit down. now wait a minute. did i say shalita says? >> joining me now is actor jesse tyler ferguson, who produced "it's okay" alongside director david phrase. i will start by saying, thank you for being here. i'm super jealous that i don't get to be at drag time story hour. i feel super deprived. >> same. >> right? i feel like there's nothing that kids love more than colorful costumes and stories and fun. how could anybody not love this? i don't get it. >> it's a great question. it's a great mystery of our generation. i mean, it's so funny, i was with my son in new york recently and we happened to walk by a drag queen i knew. it was beckett's first encounter with an actual drag queen. the only question he had for her

was why are your hands so big? that's all. >> that's a good question. >> that was the only thing that was puzzling to him. >> it's, i have been to drag brunch, you know, with kids. it's like, it's fun. it's comedy. they make you laugh. they're singing songs. and people are trying to create this sort of threatening environment. what caused you to do this documentary? what are you trying to convey? >> well, david franz, the director, is someone i would do anything for. we worked with him on welcome to chechnya. when he came to my husband justin and i with this idea, we immediately jumped onboard. we have a lot of friends in the drag community and we're watching them trying to figure out how to navigate this new who are in the drug community and we are watching them sort of, kind of figure out how to navigate this new landscape they are in. i grew up in a time when diversity was a gift. being unique was special and i just don't know when that changed. the things that made me special and unique are what give me a

career. so the fact we are attacking people being different and unique, it doesn't make any sense to me. >> don't tell them about shakespeare as it was performed in the 15th century, they would be shocked. right now we have seen the aclu tracking 527 anti-lgbtq books in the united states and that is just as of 24. big clad analysis from the state to the highest number of drug events targeted by protests and threats, texas, number one, the north carolina, even california and georgia. the drug performers in this piece, in your documentary and others that you know, are they still feeling comfortable doing their art? now it takes a certain level of bravery to do what has been art literally since the shakespeare era when all the parts were played by men including the women. >> that's right, i am that you keep reminding us of that, it is true. i feel like this national attention on this is both going to change it but also in that

time make it something that is scary to do. we have shown in our documentary there were protests at this back story hours so it is a time when people are very -- emotions are very heightened. i think we all worry about our safety. i know a lot of my friends in the community definitely worry about that. seem again, the protesters are probably much scarier to the kids then the drag queens. drag queens don't scare them but people standing outside of drag shows sometimes armed, by the way, that will scare kids. so if you are worried about children, maybe stay away from there, if you don't want to go to drag brunch and drag story are just don't go. the last message i will add here, if you could talk to say, ron desantis, if you ever wanted to do that, what would you say to him, somebody like him who has really made targeting drag shows his mission in life? what would you say to him? >> i would say i think

celebrating all families, those families that look like hours -- i am not a drug performer, but lgbtq family, is incredibly important. >> you wish you could be a fabulous drag queen, as do i. >> that's right. but i don't understand this obsession with families that don't look like everyone else's. i think diversity is a beautiful thing. why do we all have to look the same? >> art is amazing and kids love it, kids love color, they love costumes, they love stories and so there is nothing that is not fun about drag queen story hour. we are going to play our favorite game, who won the week . we will be right back. ♪ far-xi-ga ♪ ♪ far-xi-ga ♪ ♪ far-xi-ga ♪ ♪ far-xi-ga ♪ ask your doctor about farxiga. shop etsy for classroom staples under $40 that are anything but basic. find everything from personalized apparel

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it is the end of another week which means it is time to play our favorite game, who won the week? back with me as the great jesse tyler ferguson. who won the week? >> this is no surprise to anyone, it is tim walz. it is tim walz! >> yes. he did. is he not ted lasso? am i crazy to think he is basically ted lasso? >> he has just interjected his campaign with so much needed energy and joy. i get so much joy every time i look at him. he just makes me smile. >> he is the guy who you -- he

spends 20 minutes trying to tell you how to fix your -- [ inaudible ] a bunch of people. it is a reasonable member of the olympic multiple teams, they are killing. 111 total metals, usa is doing so great. richardson, doing the looksee when she is running past you, noah liles, a cold, a silver, two total. gabrielle thomas on the track and field side. regan smith, also a summer. katie ledecky, caleb drexel, you name it. this whole olympic team has been so amazing, i am so proud of them and i am just enjoying finally going back on peacock and scrawling back and watching the game. the women's relay was

awesome. you know what was also great? who won the week? me. because i got to hang out with you, it was fun. please go to drag queen story hour with me someday, i think it would be fun. >> let's do that, absolutely. >> it's okay premieres this sunday on msnbc at 9:00 p.m. eastern standard time along with to be destroyed, latest installment of the turning point documentary series from executive producer trevor noah, the film explores the fight against book banning after five books were pulled from the shelves. and is a must watch, please tune in. you can follow me on tiktok and instagram. please follow our show on instagram and tiktok. thanks so much to jesse tyler ferguson, that was fun. tonight on all in, don't believe him when he played dumb coming is exactly what he is talking about. he