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do not think that was possible and i would come on shows and say, no, this is what we are hearing from our grassroots community, these are the actions they are taking, here is what they are hearing from fred and rural places. we are not going to win this places wholesale that we are going to help at the margins. for me what i am seeing is not only are we seeing energy from our volunteer base, it is growing, re-engaging, we are seeing brand-new people who are not politically active coming out and being politically active. as someone who has been working in movement organizing for the last seven years, when we see that we have got to pay attention because something special is going on, it doesn't mean it will not be competitive and tight but it means that we have a lot we are working with no and we should continue to actualize that and not worry too much about the polls or, let's focus on things we can change. >> thank you both, appreciate it. that is "all in" for this week. alex wagner starts tonight. >> at evening, that was an excellent show, thank you so
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much. take a look at this. this was the line to get into vice president, harassment rally in glendale, arizona tonight. not making this up. this is the actual line. keeps on going and going and going. yesterday the cook political report of the key swing state of arizona from a rating of liens republican to toss up. one look at the size of the crowd showed up to see kamala harris speak tonight really speaks volumes helps you understand why. the hearse campaign estimates that more than 15,000 people showed up to see her and governor tim walz tonight. all week harris has drawn massive crowds, 12,000 in eau claire, wisconsin. 14,000 in philadelphia. 15,000 in detroit and tonight more than 15,000 in arizona. people all across the country are legitimately excited about kamala harris. some of it is organic, some is relief about the inkster on joe biden and some of it is a new
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campaign strategy. is taking their place at the top of the ticket, harris has changed the democratic ticket's messaging strategy entirely. as people close to harris told nbc news today, gone are joe biden's dark warnings about the life and death stakes for american democracy. while harris understands that threat, she is choosing to focus the messaging of her campaign on freedom and joy. freedom and joy. let's take those two things one at a time. as a member of harassment team told nbc news, harris thinks freedom is an easier way for people to understand how they are being personally impacted. freedom is an easier way to understand what it means for democracy to be under threat. what that means practically is that harris has started speaking less about the threat that trump poses to democracy and more about the freedom for kids to read the books they want to read. freedom for women to control their own bodies in the freedom to be safe from gun violence.
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so in terms of content, harris wants her campaign's messaging to be optimistic and focused on a world with more freedoms. not fewer. people close to her told nbc that harris is cummaquid, "committed" to a she calls a joyful campaign. >> it is so good to be back in arizona. i thank you for turning out today. this is an extraordinary, extraordinary -- [ cheers and applause ] and arizona, also this. as exciting as this is, we cannot lose sight of a really important fact. we are definitely running as the underdog. we are the underdog. we are out in great numbers but we have got a lot of work to do. and this is going to be hard work but i know we like hard work. hard work is good work for all of us. hard work is good work and we will do it with joy.
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>> and we will do it with joy. not a way you here donald trump ending his speeches. i want you to compare that energy that you just heard and that message to trump. this was how trump kicked off his latest set of public remarks yesterday. >> thank you very much, appreciate your being here. just a statement before i talk about debates, i think that our country is right now in the most dangerous position it has ever been in from an economic standpoint, from a safety standpoint. we have a lot of bad things coming up. you could end up in a depression of the 1929 variety, which would be a devastating thing, took decades to recover from it. and we are very close to that and we are very close to a world war.
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>> are going to talk a lot about economics later in the show but the point is that while trump and his campaign are preaching this is the end of days, harassment strategy is to contrast that. while trump wants people to be angry about some nebulous dark future in which america is overrun by criminal immigrants, harris is trying to excite americans about the future that our country could have. it is not just the top of the ticket where this contrast is that sharp. >> the one thing that i will not forgive them for is they tried to steal the joy from this country. they try and steal the joy. but you know what? you know what? our next president brings the joy. she emanates the joy. >> tim walz is speaking at a rally in detroit on wednesday. you might remember that donald trump running, senator jd vance, was also in detroit on wednesday and while he was there a fox news reporter pitched him this softball. listen to the question and to jd vance's response.
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>> you've been criticized as being a little too serious, maybe angry sometimes. what makes you smile? what makes you happy? >> well, i smile at a lot of things including bogus questions from the media, man. i mean, look. i think if you watch a full speech that i give, i actually am having a good time out here and i am enjoying this, but look. sometimes you have got to take the good with the bad and right now i am angry about what kamala harris has done to this country and on to the southern border. >> there is that fear again, no time to smile when you are preparing for the border invasion. in full disclosure here, i have to admit. is someone who has spent years covering the threat to our democracy that the m.a.g.a. movement and big five post, the idea of not forfeiting that aspect of the selection surprised me. but today the historian, risk, on who i really heavier for her expertise which is the history of authoritarianism and fascist movement circulated something that she wrote years ago, that
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also surprised me. it was an article she wrote about how chilly one -- from the authoritarian dictator, quote, hope may seem a flimsy thing to wield against autocracy, but it is the secret weapon of resistance and an essential lever of action,". in 1988, chile held a referendum to decide whether the dictator would remain in power. his military had destroyed voting registries and intimidated the public through force but rather than focusing on the fear, the pro-democracy opposition focused on the joy. their slogans were, joy is coming and happiness is a rainbow. they ran ads featuring soccer stars and ordinary people expressing hope for chile's future which was a daring thing to do in 1988. his ads and contrast repeated the old talking points about the threat from leftists and harped on grievance and loss,
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terror in the end, was all the resume had. the courage of chilly citizens to get out to vote in the power of their positive messaging created the momentum to remove him from power. again, let's be really clear before anybody clips that and put it on the internet, donald trump is not him. he had already killed tens of thousands of his own people for the time he was kicked out of office but joy was effective in the face of that kind of brutality. so here in the u.s. today with vice president harris facing off against an opponent who is consumed by vengeance and rage and authoritarian instincts, a man who has already tried to overthrow an election and seems to be laying the groundwork to try to do so again, what should we make of the strategy of countering that threat with joy? joining us now, john allen, senior politics reporter. and, the former campaign manager for bernie sanders,
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founder of a more perfect union. thank you for being here. i do want to get a piece of music came out of arizona. the other day, kamala harris faced criticism from the audience. she faced a heckler and some chance and she gave a sort of dismissive response. she got it again tonight and i want to play this, i want everybody to listen to how different her response was tonight from what it was the other night. let's listen. >> we are here to fight for our democracy. democracy. which includes respecting the voices that i think we are hearing from and let me just say this, on-topic of what i think i am hearing over there. let me just speak to that for a moment and then i'm going to get back to the business at hand. so, let me say, i have been
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clear, now is the time to get a cease-fire deal and get the hostage deal done. >> i want to get your take on that, it was a total shift, tonal. not total, from what she did in detroit the other night. >> it is the mark of a good candidate that you can adjust on the fly. i think she has a better tone tonight that is respectful of disagreement, leads some space to say, right with me, i am with you on values and give me a chance to work with you on policy. i think that is the right approach. to the point of joy, i love the approach, i love the enthusiasm, i don't think people want to live in here -- here, they want to exit out of it. my caution on it is that there are people you are angry. and if you look at the persuasion vote, low income people who are frustrated about our economy, we should not lose them because when you're joyful and can come across as class privileged, to the small segment of people who are understandably angry about the
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wages not having risen enough. inflation hurting them. and i think the way to access them is not to tell them that i'm going to live in anger with you, it is i understand your anger and i see hope and optimism with a plan to help you. and i do think it is, from my mind, it is important to think economically about the people who aren't already joyful hinted to bring up the joyfulness. >> that is valid, john. because those people's concerns are valid. we could talk in broad strokes about how the economy is doing that for some people it is not working for them. tell me how you square that? how you square the idea that there is hope, together we can do that, we can rise out of whatever you think we are and without it being dismissive of people's actual concerns and some of the anger that is out there, some of the legitimate and valid anger that is out there with undecided and swing voters? >> first of all, i think he is absolutely right. there are people who are angry and have reason to be upset the dollar doesn't go as far as it used to.
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it is tougher to make it in america right now. then it was just a few years ago, five years ago, 10 years ago, in my lifetime, i feel like there are more people struggling. all that said, kamala harris right now is in a period where she has quickly brought the democratic party together . i think she is trying to continue to do that, trying to continue to do that and i think the joy message is part of it. interestingly, she is talking about joyfulness and about the future. not very different than the message we heard not so long ago from candidate barack obama. hope and change, hope and joy very closely related. change in the future, very closely related. the question is, after the democratic convention, after this period of coalescence among democrats, though she then convert to what he is talking about and really hammer home a message about how she is going to adopt policies that are helpful to people who are concerned, who are worried, who are hurt, who are angry?
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in this economy. because that is that swing vote. no matter who you talk to it is about 10% of the battleground states you are undecided, who are swing voters right now. think she's going to have to have a good message about what it is she wants to change in the future in order to capture those votes. >> let's talk about that, because you have been in a campaign that has been very, very deeply steeped in policy. there are things that the biden administration had wanted to do and has plans to do and in some cases has done in terms of student loans, in terms of childcare. there are policies in place. this is unlike donald trump who was winging it until project 2025 came along. there are policies. are those good enough for her or does she have to do something else to say, this is how the things that i am proposing connects to my hopes for the future? >> she has to create her own economic narrative. she can borrow and should put
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the accompaniments of joe biden, the values that he had, but also i think she has to establish her own -- on this. when you think of freedom, you mentioned that word, i think leaving a tale of economic freedom. what is economic freedom? that workers are free of noncompete agreements, that we have freedom to devilish small businesses and compete against corporate monopolies, a freedom not to be overly taxed and watch wealthy people get away with paying less than all of us. i think there is a way to think about that. one of the most reported things in the biden philosophy is making it in america, bring manufacturing jobs here, the tack on your back matters to me. i want manufacturing jobs, i want to feel the american ethic that she has to create her own language and her own story. she was at the uaw yesterday talking about how her belief in labor and unions as a part of her philosophy but she has work to do to talk, i think to this last one or 2% is going to come online in michigan, wisconsin,
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pennsylvania, people who have not been deeply engaged in the political race thus far and that is what i think they are going 20 here, is it is the economic message that incorporates to me, they tell me our fight against monopolies on price fixing and price collusion, those things matter to me. she has got some language there but i think she's got to flesh this out in a much more aggressively down the home stretch. >> these things get flushed out in interviews which they have not got a ton of. that will probably start somewhere connected to or beyond the convention. and then they get flushed out when people start to tune in. not people like us, people who are otherwise occupied with things who will tune into this campaign later. do you see an actual shift occurring which moves from this momentum and energy and crowds into policy discussions? i assume the debate, september 10, would be a great opportunity for some of that. >> we are starting to hear some policy shifts already, they are not really as much on the -- on a sort of broad economic scale. we have heard her sort of move
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in a different direction on fracking which she once wanted to man. she -- we have for the campaign save this week she believes unauthorized immigrants coming across the border have broken the law, so there have been some changes there. i think there is going to be some tension, of course, as she tries to create her own policy platform, because she has been vice president for president biden and because he is still in office, there is a natural tension between anything she wants to that hasn't been done and what is being done right now. and i think she probably is taking some time to figure that out. she is a new candidate but at the same time, there is an entire economic team at the white house, one of the top economic aims in democratic politics over the last 30 or 40 years has just moved to her campaign so we should start to expect to see that pretty soon, and as far as interviews go, as a reporter, i would like to see her do them sooner than later.
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>> thanks very much for kicking us off tonight, we appreciate it. we have much more ahead tonight including donald trump's latest burbled word salad comments on the subject of abortion. first, there's campaign has managed to put two sunbelt swing states back in play. but can she win them in november? i'm going to talk to the veteran arizona reporter about that right after this. smile! you found it. the feeling of finding psoriasis can't filter out the real you. so go ahead, live unfiltered with the one and only sotyktu, a once-daily pill for moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, and the chance at clear or almost clear skin. it's like the feeling of finding you're so ready for your close-up. or finding you don't have to hide your skin just your background. once-daily sotyktu was proven better, getting more people clearer skin than the leading pill.
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part of why we are going to win is because we remember. and we are smart. and we know what is happening and we are not falling for the gas lighting and we are not falling for the okey-doke. >>, harris and tim rawls just wrapped up a raucous campaign rally before more than 50,000 people in glendale, arizona. it is their largest rally to date and it comes as recent polling from bloomberg and morning consult shows harris gaining ground in arizona and nevada, leading donald trump in both states by two points. that is within the margin of error but it does show a difference in trend. joining me now is the reporter for axios phoenix. thank you for being with us. i want to talk to you about the various things that are resonating for, or not, for arizona voters. obviously the border and
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immigration is a big one for arizona voters. talk to me about kamala harris's message there and how it is doing? >> the message we saw from the ad i think came out just today, she is trying to kind of capitalize on the border issue, it is something that donald trump is very much made the cornerstone of his campaigns since he has been running for president. this is a state where the border issue, these are potent issues everywhere in the country but here in arizona it reaches a much different level. this is where we bear the brunt of all of this stuff. so if she is able to kind of deflect some of trump's criticism on that, it could bear fruit in the campaign. but we have yet to see, this is still pretty early. >> talk about the discussion about abortion rights and reproductive rights in arizona. there is a ballot measure in november on abortion rights. tell me where they are on that?
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>> they have submitted their signatures, there is a court challenge, there might be multiple and going on. i think the people trying to kick it off the ballot, if i recall correctly, they have lost their appeal. i think the general expectation is this is going to be on the ballot. this is very well-funded, very well-planned. they were working on this for a long time before they even launch the campaign. i would be surprised if this wasn't on the ballot. it is something that can definitely be a turnout driver for harris and other democrats on the ballot in the same way the dobbs decision the supreme court overturned roe v. wade a couple years ago, that was a big turnout driver a few years ago as well. >> let's talk about that turnout issue. in arizona it is a big deal in the company to deal because there are a lot of republicans who in the last election crossed lines to support democrats because they were so frustrated by the election denial stuff. up against ruben gallego in the senate race, which one
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motivates the other? the senate read? does that bring people out to vote in the presidential race or does the excitement about harris and falls bring more people out to vote in a senate race or are those two things in your mind, not connected? >> reporter: the senate race, or the presidential race, sorry, probably drives more people to the polls. there are probably some folks who weren't necessarily excited about voting for 4 to 6 weeks ago. there was a definite attitude shift among democrats where folks were just not optimistic, or not particularly motivated, not enthused. you have seen as we saw in that video of the harris/walz rally tonight in glendale, the attitude has shifted a lot. i think you very well may see it drive more folks to the polls who may be otherwise weren't going to put that in the abortion initiative could potentially, not a lot of
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dividends for the democrats. >> talk to me about this issue of republicans, frustrated with the republican party and arizona. one might have thought after the last election there would be a bit of a postmortem and they would say let's not alienate the people who actually identify as for publicans and conservatives, arizona is a state with a proud conservative heritage. but arizona republicans double down on their election denial message. does the harris/walz to get benefit from the crossover vote? >> most likely. we saw that two years ago with, this is still a center-right stage. even the democrats have had a lot of wins in recent elections this is still generally a republican leaning state but things change a lot when you start putting in some of these candidates like lisa, vote in 2022. folks who really made no attempts to reach out toward the center to reach out toward
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what out here you might call the mccain wing of the party, a lot of those folks ended up voting for democrats two years ago. so far i don't know that we have seen a lot of republicans running here in arizona, some of them are doing kind of the same thing as even some of the same candidates. in some cases, not really making much of an effort to reach out to the center, to the republicans who have kind of peeled off in the last few years and they are not able to win those folks over. that could be bad news come november. >> we are all going to be paying a lot of close attention to the state of arizona. good to have you on, thanks for joining us. still had tonight, the question was, quote, would you direct your fda to revoke access to the abortion pill, mifepristone? trump's answer was very unclear and that was intentional. i will talk to you about republicans intentionally evasive messaging on abortion, after this.
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supplement, absolutely. and those things are pretty open and humane. but you have to be able to have a vote. and all i want to do is give everybody a vote. and the votes are taking place right now as we speak. >> if you have no idea what he meant by that, you're not alone. but it turns out trump's advisors do have a very clear policy on whether or not to ban medication abortions. all you have to do is turn to page 491 of project 2025. if elected to the white house, they say loud and clear that their plan is to instruct the fda to quote, "reverse its approval of chemical abortion drugs." but how did donald trump put it again? >> you could do things that would supplement, absolutely. and those things are pretty open and humane. but you have to be able to have a vote. >> that word salad response is no accident because republicans are painfully aware of the fact
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that being the party that banned abortion is hanging around their necks like a political anvil. they are not softening their policy positions around abortion, they are just softening the way they talk about it. and they hope that voters don't notice the difference. tonight in arizona, vice president harris made the difference very clear. >> and just yesterday in a press conference, we got a fresh reminder of what donald trump's project 2025 agenda would do. it would ban medication abortion in every state. but we are not going to let that happen. because we trust women! >> training is now called the president and ceo of reproductive freedom for all. thanks for being here. i have to say in all the years i have covered this issue of
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abortion, i have never seen this. these magic tricks, these different ways that republicans try and answer this question. you can still find some people who speak their truth and tell you what they really want to do and that is ban abortion, ban mifepristone, possibly ban contraception, all sorts of things. but everybody else is doing some kind of dance to make sure they don't really say that. >> every time abortion is on the ballot, abortion wins. we have had valid measure after ballot measure, we have had candidates running on this issue. and even when things were looking really tight between biden and trump, abortion was the issue that was moving voters to the democrats. abortion is the most salient issue and it continues to be salient because the longer these bans are in place, the more extreme these stories and the horrifying consequences are. but republicans know they cannot win on their actual policy positions. that is why they are trying to hide from project 2025, disavow affiliation. but when you have a vice president candidate like jd vance who is so cozy with the
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heritage foundation but also, get this. i know we are talking about mifepristone but also the comstock act, jd vance was one of the republican senators who asked the doj, in fact, demanded the t oj, and forced comstock to block medication abortion just months after the dobbs decision, maybe even weeks. because they are so emboldened and in bed with the antiabortion extremist movement. they cannot disentangle themselves from it, so now as you said, they are converting themselves to try to hide their record but their record was just fine minutes ago. so either they think we're stupid or they are stupid. my guess, it is a little bit of both. >> i wonder whether somebody didn't talk to somebody before they printed this 922 page project 2025 because abortion is in there 200 times. that is not even just in one section, it is all over the place. i guess they are counting on the fact that document is hard to read and people aren't going
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to read it because it is written. if you've up that way and in january you get donald trump is a president, it is 180 day plan to do everything they can do to take abortion rights away from people not in the states they are already gone, in every state. >> they also, remember, took this to the supreme court. and every republican, attorney general in the country, almost every republican attorney general in the country, signed the brief to the supreme court asking the court to support banning mifepristone. and what did the supreme court do? they did not actually rule for mifepristone to remain authorized, they punted , they kicked the can down the road very conveniently for a future republican administration and a future republican led fda to take the action to revoke the authorization. so this is the case that came out of that texas court, a chump appointee, incredibly extreme, who wanted to challenge the fda. one of two
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abortion medication combos. everything has been lined up. you have project 2025, the state courts. an extremist supreme court. you have republicans in the house and senate pushing their own legislation on ivf, on contraception, on more restrictions against abortion providers. so again, they can't hide it, it is all in clear sight and they have not stopped. all they have done is tried to twist the way they talk about it. they have not actually stopped any of the policy, whether it is the cause, whether it is legislatures, and whether it is these states with these bans that you know are continuing to fight. >> so i opened the show today with a conversation about messaging and what the democrats need to do. there is some discussion about the fact , the hope and freedom message is good but it is going to have to translate into some meat and potatoes in terms of actual policy. as it relates to reproductive freedom, kamala harris is in a
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very good place on this because she has been a face of that. she leans into the concept of freedom which is in the name of your organization. because it is a good way to understand abortion, right? you can think about it as abortion or as the freedom to make your own choices. as kamala harris said, we trust women. end of story. once you have got that, you get the message. >> it is the fundamental freedom to decide if, when and how to have a family, which every american can relate to. what is really interesting about shifting from that choice life binary to a freedom framework and talking about abortion access, but also so many other issues, is that it takes it away from just one gender. it is no longer just a women's issue. we all have skin in the game for our fundamental freedoms. and it is about the freedom from government interference, the freedom to make decisions about your own body. that is something every american can relate to and it also takes away the judgment, right? and it makes it more than just
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a choice. although the choice is still really critical to have. the other thing that you just mentioned is that the vice president talks very much about trusting women and that is something that for a long time, that americans haven't embraced and it is time to get back to that. and honestly it is my mother's generation, right? that really leaned into the trust women messaging. what i love about vice president harris is she is able to take the modern framing and method of freedom but she is also reinforcing what my mother's and our grandmothers want to hear, right? which is, we want to be trusted. we don't want to be marginalized. >> it is a remarkable message. great to see you, thanks for joining us. the president and ceo of reproductive freedom for all. coming up, american athletes at the paris olympic have discovered something else besides medals and competitive spirit to get excited about. i'm going to tell you about it right after the break. eak.
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two stories out of russia, both of them are eye-popping and both of them raise questions about strategy. the first one happen in the russian republic of dagestan, russian chess player may be banned for life after trying to poison opponent. according to russian authorities the player was caught on surveillance video entering a room set up for hs turner, she appears to rub something on one of the boards, watch this. a person who later played at the chest -- chessboard became ill but ultimately survived. the substance was mercury, and the woman appears to have planted it, she is the subject of a criminal investigation. not exactly a well thought out strategy especially for a chess player. right now in the russian region of kursk on the border with
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ukraine, battles rage in russia as the kremlin struggles to repel surprise ukraine encourage and. the fighting marks the first time since russia's illegal invasion of ukraine two years ago that ukraine's armed forces have taken the ground fight on to russian soil. and along with the surprise and shock of the ukrainian cross- border offensive into russia comes the question of why now? colonel lt. col. vindman, thank you for being with us today. >> thank you for having me. >> i want to ask you about this, this is the first time, ukraine has launched attacks into russia before. but this is the first time a ground incursion has taken place in fact is the first ground incursion into russia since world war ii. >> yes, that's true.
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there have been previous ground incursions but by russian brigades so brigades of russia that are supported by ukrainian military but actually, russian in nature, this is the first time that the ukrainian armed forces have had an incursion like this and this is not an insignificant incursion, this is a multi-brigade operation. not only were the units in that immediate vicinity a surprise but units all the way up to strategic intelligence and the kremlin were surprised. the question is how well this operation unfold, is it just a short-term rate, are the ukrainians planning on holding the territory, i think regardless, the russians are going to have to dislodge them, i think if they don't pressure the ukrainians, the ukrainians have no reason to leave. it's a profound embarrassment for the russian armed forces,
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for the kremlin, for putin, russian territory is now occupied territory. >> washington and berlin have responded by saying ukraine is defending itself. it's got to do what it's got to do. what does this mean now and what is the significance of it. i think the point you make is remarkable and that is that there is rock -- russian occupied territory by ukraine. >> the purpose of the operation is to force a dilemma on the russians. russians are continuing to push in the south of ukraine in the east, along.net, and it's pressuring the ukrainians.
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with the ukrainians are trying to do is force a dilemma on the russians. do they continue those offenses, do they try and reinforce and push the ukrainians back from the occupied area? it's a smart move, it's one that will force the russians to make some hard decisions. and frankly it's a demonstration of continued ukrainian ability to the skills and capability to surprise the russians and to do things that the russians and frankly the rest of the world does not anticipate. >> if you been looking at the ground maps, basically since april or may of 2022 until now. people can argue on the ground it's been a stalemate but that doesn't tell the full story. russian has never been able to gain air superiority over ukraine. they can send their drones and muscles and, many are
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intercepted but they don't openly fly easily over ukraine. and they been pushed back to the east on the red sea. now the f-16s might start coming into play, this is a remarkable situation for russia that we thought was going to take ukraine in three days or a week? >> that's 100% true. don't forget the black sea fleet in the crimea has been pushed out of crimea, they are now operating in the eastern side of the black sea, so, there have been remarkable successes by the ukrainians with drones, by being able to minimize russian aviation assets. the f-16s coming online will further force the russian aviation to be more careful and back further from the front. so these are some remarkable successes, the russians have
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already demonstrated they don't have the capability to siege large swath of ukrainian territory. now, this looks like it could be at least the beginning of a shift of momentum across the battlefield for ukrainians. >> colonel, good to see you again. that's our show for tonight, tomorrow i will host my own show, velshi, and there's still time to do some reading of that band book club and tomorrow i'm sitting down with the author of all the light we cannot see which as you know is a pulitzer prize- winning historical novel loved by critics and readers but not by activists who keep trying to get it removed from school bookshelves. that's tomorrow

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