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that is what is driving these rallies for so many to come out. >> even if you are talking about democracy. >> it is interesting christina, do what basil said there. that sort of visceral response

to what people have had and what they are having to this campaign and it really kind of drives for me, the question of how-- once people sort of get a pass, the yummy part, which is the part that feels good in your belly right now, it is like oh, this is so exciting, so new, you still have the reality that there are things that folks want to get addressed, there are some young undecided voters in arizona that's talk about what their priorities are, let's take a quick listen. >> for me this is the most of it , pay attention on how it affects me directly and put money into my pockets as far as making it more affordable. >> now that biden stepped away, harris is in, tim walz is her vp, running mate, i am probably going to be switch to vote democrat, come november. a little bit of is undecided so, i feel like one policy on

the other side that i really don't agree with his a lot of them are pro-life, i am pro- choice, it is not my body, it is not my decision. >> so, you begin to see the contours of the policy, personal narratives that folks are looking to apply to these candidates in order to get their vote. how are you reading the electorate right now in that regard? >> well, people always go to the polls for economic issues. i think with the democrats have been slowly doing but they need to do a better job over time for their surrogate is really linking some of their progressive policy proposals and pragmatic aggressive's i should say, to economic issues. so, republicans have taken over this term, pro-life, there's no such thing as pro-life. they provide zero social safety net, so democrats should say it is a choice, between pro-choice and anti-choice, because making a woman and a man have a child that they may not be prepared for is an economic decision. you know, talking more

critically and crucially about how it is based on pocketbook issues, how will they actually rebuild the social safety net that we see republican executives ripped away every time they are in office? and so, a lot of this work is often times done during the campaign season. it needs to also be done when people are in office, particularly the wins that democrats have, which is not something that democrats have ever been great at, touting their wins and we know that kamala harris is going up against you know, an opponent who will just keep lying until he repeats it enough for people start repeating it as fact, as in, his job creation or helping veterans or helping blacks, which is completely false. so, doing multiple things at once is quite complicated, but this is where sarah gets on a local level come in and help on the economic issues. because we have seen time and time again, people don't really go to the polls based on

immigration or climate change, this is the first time we are seeing international issues really come to play in a domestic election, but really tying that to economic issues is really going to be a key for the paris-walz happened. >> we have seen the message to come through both in the ads and the stopping of that and now, talking about harris and working at mcdonald's and then tying it to things, like the affordability of housing, the affordability of healthcare. i want you to take a listen to the way that she has framing it and we will talk about it on the other side. >> she grew up in a middle- class home, she is the daughter of a working mom, and she worked at donald's while she got her degree. kamala harris knows what it is like to be middle class. it is why she is determined to lower healthcare costs and make housing more affordable. donald trump has no plan to help the middle class. just more tax cuts for billionaires. being president is about who you fight for. and she is fighting for people like you. >> i am, lane harris and i approve this message.

>> the promise of america is what makes it possible for governor walz mackin to be on the same stage together, because think, two middle-class kids, one, a daughter of oakland, california. who was raised by a working mother, had a summer job at mcdonald's, the other, a son of nebraska planes, who grew up working on a farm, think about it. only in america. is it possible, for them, together, to make it all the way to the white house. >> one of the questions i always find most interesting, basil, when you talk about pulling his who understands, who gets me, who is looking out

for me? and that connection between the bayou is absolutely critical. >> my father worked at a mcdonald's in queens, boulevard, my mother worked at the host pajama company at the empire state building. excuse me for telling stories, but that resonates and that is the kind of relationship that harris is trying to build with the voter. very different from what donald trump is doing, and when you think about what has happened over the last few days, endorsing for the first time in their history, when joe biden stepped down and harris became the nominee, you had latina putting $45 million on the ground, because those stories and those individuals, who are going to be deeply affected by that negative language around immigration and violence that donald trump and republicans are promoting, they understand that the harris-walz campaign understands their story and are putting people on the ground to affect change. >> i have never seen you missed the item until you talked about

your mom and dad and mcdonald's. now i am misty eyed. >> no, don't do that now, come on. christina, i want to shift gears on that a little bit, because i really-- it would have struck me since donald trump's press conference is the, sort of highbrow nature of the press coming out, lane harris, saying what she, in my view, whining that she doesn't talk to us, she hasn't done a sit down with us, she has done interviews with us, and i watched that press conference and i go, well, you start actually asking real questions of donald trump and pressing him then that sort of creates a space of violence, but then i look at polling. you have the "new york times" siena poll showing harrison battleground states, michigan she is up by 44, pennsylvania come up by 44, and wisconsin up by four, 50-46 all within the margin of error, so, at one point you say strategically,

why do i need to talk to you right now? and talking to the american people and we are having a conversation, you are happy to follow it and to report on it, how do you think the campaign balances going forward? you know, she will sit down at some point, but right now is there a real need for her to sort of, you know, get the press on her campaign and her efforts, when she is having a very good conversation, seemingly, with the american people without them? >> right. well, we have to remember, lane harris has only been at the top of the ticket for roughly 3 weeks. i know it has felt like, you know, months time, barely be in three weeks. governor walz was added to the ticket less than a week ago, so, they are perfecting their origin stories, as basil just talked about. she is reintroducing herself to the american public now, and possibly at the leader of the free world. you know, most minnesotans know who he is, you know, besides

last week who had thoughts on governor walz. this time, when you go to the dnc, there will be an error of feelings and also lots of celebrities, it will be a great show. there will be a dip, obviously, so it is incumbent upon the press do not harp on the fact that the dip is going to occur. most likely, just because that is how things happen. she will sit down with them, but i think ever since covid, time has been a construct. so, we are talking about, lane harris as she has been raining, it has not even been a month. so, as she perfects her messaging on this stuff, and reintroduces herself and ticket to the american people, that you will have more specific policy issues, but it is also uncommon upon the press that they treat these two candidates differently. donald trump is allowed to ramble, ramble, ramble, lie, lie, lie, and everyone says it is so hard to keep up with him and all the lies, we try to what are you going to do? whereas kamala harris is held

to a different standard. democrats know that, we sort of make jokes about republicans oh, they clutch their pearls, how dare we, and all of the sudden they are crying crocodile tears, when we have seen better language that republicans use about democrats of the american people. so, knowing that it is not a level playing field, kamala harris is a black woman, is an indian woman and child of two and immigrants, she knows it has never been a level playing field, yet she plays the game very well. and this role that has been almost seamless, and if they stick to the game plan, which is explaining to the american people what they have done, and the democratic party, and what they plan to do as far as economic issues that matter to american families. i think they will be in good footing. >> all right, basil, christina, stick around, because next we want to talk about vice president harris on the issues, her promises and one early point of tension on the left. this is the weekend. weekend.

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from reproductive freedom to the economy, the israel- hamas work, the southern border, voters will be casting their ballots with a litany of burgeoning issues at the top of their minds. the trump-harris campaign and christina greer are back with us. you are looking at, basil, the process sort of play out politically, in terms of the campaigning and all of that. but there are some faultlines for the harris campaign to have to confront, within her own race, and we have seen that recently, with some protesters, who have spoken out at her rallies. let's hear, you know, harris

sort of talking about the border for example. let's go with slide two. >> we know our immigration system is broken, and we know what it takes to fix it. comprehensive reform. strong border security and an earned pathway to citizenship. >> the choice in this election is between a mass amnesty with welfare, social security and voting rights with the illegal, and they want to give illegal immigrants all of this and here's all we are going to do, it will be called a trump mass deportation. >> what i think the vice president is saying is that we do have the idea of putting

back and play the very border bill that's trump killed for republicans a few months ago. how do you see that particular tension around the border playing within the democratic party, particularly with progressive, will they look past that? how do you see that playing out right now? >> is similar to what we were saying before, these starkly different views of the country, donald trump is on talking about immigrations on migrants poisoning the blood of the country right? and kamala harris, her own story promotes the notion that immigrants are part of the lifeblood of this country and been able to move this country dramatically forward, culturally forward, and you can hear that in her language, here that in her own story and i think the way that she has talked about it on the stump, sort of follows that line.

she has commercials that are talking to trying to be more strict at the border, if you will, try to say that we can tighten the border, but if we are going to do that we also need to provide a path for citizenship. she also talked about needing to fight against the influx of drugs across the border and, in terms of human trafficking. so, it is not just this dichotomous view of immigration comedy what these people here or not? but there are multiple issues that not only create problems at the border, but create problems in the countries from where these individuals are coming from that the u.s. has had a hand in. so, if we actually look at this problem in a much broader sense and be tough when we need to be tough, but compassionate when we need to be compassionate and we can have a much more comprehensive policy that so many others can get behind and that is what i said before, when she says we will make an endorsement for the first time in this 95 year history, that says a lot about the views of

five brett vice president harris in terms of the border and more compassionate by those individuals, those families, those children are there versus what republicans have been promoting. >> what i have to say about donald trump is that he has been consistent, consistently ugly, consistently xena phobic. the fact that 11 million. people have built their lives here, basically work, exist, pay taxes as americans in contrast to abortion and reproductive rights in which historically he has been all over the place. a reporter try to nail him down on whether or not he will vote for florida's abortion referendum. take a listen to what he says. >> well, i am going to announce

that, i am actually going to have a press conference on that in the near point in the future, so i don't want to tell you now. but florida does have a vote coming up on it, and i think probably the vote will go in a little more liberal way than people thought. >> so, mostly it seems like there's news to him that there is an abortion referendum in florida, dr. greer, but this issue is going to be front and center in this race, and he wishes that were not so, because he knows the positioning he has taken up to this point is not popular with the general election electorate. >> right. donald trump is in a conundrum, donald trump doesn't read and he said that he doesn't read, but has shown is that time and time again, when abortion is on the ballot, democrats win. donald trump is keenly aware of that, he definitely thinks that these hardliner evangelicals and people who are hard-core anti-choice, he thinks it is bad for business it is bad policy, and quite honestly he

finds them a little weird and strange and he said as much in passing over the years, so, he recognizes that the republicans can't keep digging their heels, being anti-ivf, anti-women's right to choose, he has said a lot of rhetoric, but he knows that women and men across this country, more and more are realizing that this hardliner stands just is not good for the future of our nation, especially taking away rights and liberties from millions upon millions of women, who should and could be making their own decisions, so he is going to try to hunt as long as he can, it is incumbent upon journalists to really pin him down, if he is going to, ron desantis, farther and farther to the right, trying to out prop trump, and donald trump needs to say whether or not he agrees with members of his party, and he has created this monster, yes excavated this monster, in the sense that he wants these hardliner republicans to go along with everything, civil rights and

civil liberties from americans, this is a key issue where he has looked at, he knows that when it is on the ballot republicans lose, especially in florida. >> dr. christina greer, thank you both so much for getting us started. next, united auto workers president, sean vane joins us to discuss the endorsement of, lane harris. you are watching the weekend. ♪ i heard i had a choice ♪ ♪ i know the name, that's what i'm saying ♪ -cologuard®? -cologuard. cologuard! -screen for colon cancer. -at home, like you want. -you the man! -actually, he's a box. cologuard is a one-of-a-kind way to screen for colon cancer that's effective and non-invasive. it's for people 45+ at average risk, not high risk. false positive and negative results may occur. ask your provider for cologuard. ♪ i did it my way ♪

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>> really it is not just union members, working-class people or not, this is about humanity.

really, this, this election, it is about people, the soul of america. and we know which side kamala harris is on, and we know which side donald trump is on and we-- that is one thing we do at uaw, we look at back, not alternative back to what we call life. we look at facts. we look at these two people in their and their own actions and their own words. and it is a very telling story. trump talks about the workers and how much he cares about auto workers. you know, he was president in 2019. there were plants closing and he did nothing. not wanting to help alleviate that situation or try and that from happening. workers were on strike in 2019. again, he did nothing, he said nothing, you know who is on the picket line in 2019? , lane harris was, not because it was a convenient thing to do, but that is because we it is who she has, she believes in workers and comes from the working class and that is the difference in these two candidates, donald trump has been headed and in the world by daddy, ed, lane harris has worked for everything she got, she started at mcdonald's and

work all the way up. >> it is funny, i will play a little sound from donald trump reacting to all of this, and i just want to make it very clear, the name-calling in this is donald trump, but take a quick listen, i want to get your response aside. >> look, the united auto workers, i know them very well, they vote for me, they have a stupid person leading them, but they vote for me, they are going to love donald trump more than ever before. >> so, again, setting aside the childish name-calling from a 78- year-old, grown man, i-- i want to focus on the core of this, because i-- i brought it in in the lead in, you have got a massive group of union workers out there part of the union united auto workers family, what is the effort behind getting them? we know they are all not going to vote for, lane harris or not

all going to vote for donald trump, but what is the strategy to sort of galvanize the union worker behind the idea that there is a big difference between these two presidential candidates when it comes to the working class and working men and women across this country as you said, not just within unions, but outside of unions, remembering that he was the one that had a union event with nonunion workers. >> yeah. look again, it is going back to facts and we will remain members between retired members and active workers and, you know, we are launching our campaign now. and we have been very actively speaking about this, showing these two people, as we tell them every time i speak it is not my opinion, it is just party politics, this is these people in their own words on their own actions and that is enough for anyone, when you show this fact it is a very clear picture, so that is one of the things we are doing, we have created some videos we are putting out, talking about these facts and where they come

from but, you know, the ultimate thing to be is it just shows i mean-- you know, i-- i know this and i know our members, a majority of our members will be supporting kamala harris and tim walz, they are excited about this and we see this thing continue to build, so, you know, the name- calling and stuff, that is what trump is, that is how he operates, just like with veterans, he claims to be for military but he calls people who made the ultimate sacrifice suckers or losers, he called john mccain, you know, my heroes don't get captured and now he is questioning, you know, the service tim walz. i mean, give me a break, donald trump knows nothing about service, daddy got him out of the military because of a bone spur or something, this man knows nothing about serving anything but himself it is a very clear picture when you look at that. >> you can also later on your endorsement the culinary workers union, very powerful in nevada, going to be critical in that state. i was struck by something you said in your release in your endorsement, you said we can put a billionaire back in

office who stands for everything our union dance for, or we can elect, lane harris who will stand shoulder to shoulder with us on our war on corporate greed, i noticed that that language about corporate greed is beginning to be incorporated in the vice president's remarks on the trip, right? they have talked about inflation, which is i think that, if we are honest, he can't control inflation the same way that, if you talk about corporate greed, she both, in her record as a prosecutor actually has a record of going after this and two, i think it provides sort of an answer and a path forward for why a bag of chips costs what it does right now at the grocery store. >> yeah. i mean, look, that is a thing, that is a difference, that is a stark contrast between, lane harris and donald trump. , lane harris and tim walz, they have struggled, they know struggle, they know what it is like to live paycheck to paycheck because they have been there, donald trump knows nothing about what working- class people go through, so,

you know, kamala harris understands, working-class people in this country have been hurting for decades because they have been taking everything and leaving nothing behind, that is the essence of what we are talking about, we are about inflation a lot, we don't hear about the cause of that inflation, it wasn't policy driven, it is the fact that the weiner class and the wealthy do what they do best, when they have a pandemic or an emergency or a disaster, they find ways to extract more wealth than they did at this time the pandemic through price gouging the consumer, whether it is paying our gas at the pump, whether it is the price for a gallon or met of milk or a vehicle, the auto companies, they jacked up prices on vehicles, 30%-40% in the last four years. prior to our contract, so when they talk about our wages and contracted driving up the cost of our vehicle, no, that is a lie. they did it without us even having a contract with our wages staying stagnant, so it is a big lie and we have got to

speak truth about inflation and what is behind it, it is corporate greed and that is what donald trump represents and the greatest testament to that is him bragging about him taking $45 million a month from elon musk and now all of a sudden he cares about electric vehicles. so with trump this country is for sale, with biden-harris, the country is not for sale. >> shawn fain, united workers are union, thank you so much good >> next, trump's newly unearthed connection of his extreme 2025 playbook for a second term, this is the weekend. like a phone, when you switch. don't miss out. get started today. meet the jennifers. jen x. jen y. and jen z. each planning their future through the chase mobile app. jen x is planning a summer in portugal

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favorable view of it, 43% viewed unfavorably, 24% increase in its unfavorable rating since june, so, clearly this-- this particular effort to, now sort of distance the party, the republican party and donald trump, specifically, and his campaign from this, does not appear to be working. i think there is more work to be done to really get people to appreciate what this administration, what the trump administration looks like. how do you see these efforts of distancing trump from this, playing out? and what more should be done in your view, to help people understand exactly what is at daycare? >> thank you for the question, michael, isn't it shocking to discover that americans are alarmed that they are trying to take one fundamental freedoms away from them? in the center for american

progress, we pulled on this project, we back in the spring, getting no attention at all in the media or not enough attention from elected officials and we found exactly what you said, michael, not enough americans know about it, but when they do learn about it and they get information on the individual planks inside that 925 some odd pages, it becomes incredibly unpopular to them. they understand what it means to restrict choices that women are able to make they see very clearly that it is problematic to attack medicare and medicaid and social security and they are concerned with the basic dignity of all americans and increasingly, an inclusive society are threatened. so, you are right that not enough books know about it, but more and more are learning about it, and we have been amazed to find that at some point, right before the presidential debates, project 2025 was actually out pulling

donald trump, in terms of searches on google. so, more people are becoming alarmed and we found that our own pulling that the more they learn the more they are turned off by it. so, it is no surprise at all that right now donald trump and jd vance, doing everything they can to pretzel themselves, to declare that they know nothing about the heritage foundation even though they have also woken there multiple times and even though jade events, himself wrote the preface to his book, to this authoritarian blueprint, he is now disavowing it, he says that he has had nothing to do with it, not a surprise. >> you can think and send for those google searches, the platform that she gave to these. the platform was violent in nature, which, perhaps isn't surprising, but it is still alarming and you talk to us, one of the things that project 2024 lays out his possibly the deconstructive administrative state, laying off 50,000 government employees, but i

have also had it posited to me that they have watched and learned from democrats and said they have figured out how to leverage government in order to do things they want to do, and so, there is a duality to it, they both want to deconstruct the administrative state, but they also wants to build up certain pieces of it in order to execute plans that they see as beneficial to them. >> alicia, that is not on and i want to make a real distinction here. when roberts was on your section two months ago, he didn't say that what we are going to do is take apart a bloated government, he made it very, very clear, this is very different from the ronald reagan's message in our government. he said we will replace the civil servants, michael your dad, we will replace them, because with the lease that these people have come ideological views that are different from our own, and he said here on this said that he intended to codify trump's them through project 2025 and new

political appointees that they brought in government. we learned just a short while ago that there's an active investigation from the department of justice about resources possibly the trump campaign, $10 million but that investigation was by political appointees, who took over that previously independent agency. this project 2025, this project trump 2025 would put those kinds of agents all throughout government. they break the lines of defense against authoritarian-- not just authoritarianism but corruption in our government and they will do so with this kind of violent shield that kevin roberts himself has put forward, they said very clearly this is a second american revolution, they likened it to the patriots fighting in 1776 and they said very clearly in this book that jd vance endorses, they said we have to figure out if this is a moment, where americans, who believe, as we do, that somehow we are

threatened, our belief system, our ideology, our demographics, if they are prepared to die and they say very clearly, so that is what they are calling go. >> so, patrick, we have a little minute left and we want to sort of level up the conversation around two things, one, you have the book now that kevin roberts wrote and jd vance has done a forward to, being delayed. because of all of the-- >> you know what, that is like when you have really nice company coming to your home and you have that junk drawer or junk closet and basement where you don't want folks to know how you actually live your life, that is what they are trying to do right now. they are trying to fire people, they are burying it, they are hiding it, but they can't, because those zombie policies keep surfacing in the republican platform, every speech that trump makes, that hour-long q&a he did the other day, if you take it apart, it is really an unpacking of the papers of project 2025, you

can't hide the zombies. >> you can't hide the zombies, you put the knotty book in the closet. i love it. patrick, thank you so much, for coming on and being with us at the table. there is more head on the weekend, of course remember that very soon you will be able to obtain nbc's very first life event, it is called msnbc life, democracy 2024. we will be in brooklyn, new york on saturday, september 7th. and if you want to buy tickets, just scan the qr code on the screen, you know how you do that, put the phone up to it, you don't want to miss the first of its kind in person interactive experience, offering insight perspectives from some of your favorite hosts, including all of us on the weekend. (woman) ugh. (vo) trade in any phone, in any condition. guaranteed at verizon. and get the new galaxy s24 on us. only on verizon.

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finding a cure for childhood cancer, it means everything. help st. jude give kids with cancer a chance. [audio logo] alicia, i want to come at you with two perspectives that folks think are kind of separate, but i think kind of come together and that is our conversation with shawn, the uaw president and our conversation around immigration. and what is at the heart of immigration are immigrants, and the value of the work they bring to our country and our society. i think there's some really interesting dynamics there for the harris campaign when they are talking about the worker,

working families, moms and dads out there, that those two narratives can seemingly come together in some interesting ways. >> which is important to bring them together, given the work that donald trump, to use one issue as a wedge issue with another group right? to say to working-class, to middle-class americans, if you are not comfortable, if you have economic grievances, let me tell you who to blame, you blame all of these people who are coming, fleeing their home countries they are the bad guy, that is not the answer, that has never been the answer, but donald trump used to that anger and pointed it in the direction of people who never deserve to have it land at their feet. so, you are right, immigrants are workers in this country, immigrants have helped build this country, the fact that you have one of the oldest civil rights groups in this country, what is interesting to me, this is not a group that every four

years issues an endorsement, this is the first endorsement, president endorsement and lulac's history and that is because as the government positions as this is a make or break moment for america for democracy and for the latino community that the stakes are simply as they say, too high, and so i think you are right that there is an opportunity to unify people under this umbrella and i think that is especially important given the division that we have seen from donald trump, and he has been effective, it has taken hold. you see it bear out in this list of endorsements, and i also want to make sure, we have an nbc news exclusive, the brother of george floyd endorsing the harris-walls ticket specifically speaking to the strength of walz's character , you know, the organizations are important, those individuals are important too, michael.

>> they are, and i think a lot of folks on my side of the aisle will sleep on that endorsement by george floyd's brother but it does speak to the heart of how we see ourselves and the leaders who can help us deal with moments of crises and folks remember how the trump administration looked at that and the reaction to the frustration of, not just black communities across the country, this was a global impact that this particular murder had, and so i find that to be profoundly important in that regard and when you look at this campaign as it is and this is why i made- - i raise the question about the press hankering for, you know,, like to play their game. you need to come on our turf and sit with us before we do your campaign to be legitimate. y'all need to back up, because the american people are legitimizing this campaign and

that is exactly how it should be. you should, as the press, be taking in my view, observing what is happening and relating that information, not wanting to be a part of the story and having your feelings hurt, because oh, kamala and tim haven't sit down with you. more on the weekend ahead, reverend al sharpton will be joined by a former minnesota governor, jesse ventura, to discuss the choice of tim walz as jesse harris's running mate and what it takes to win in the west. that is coming up on politics nation at 5:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc, and you know, we are going to be right back. . like a free 5g phone, when you switch. don't miss out. get started today. you ever try cashbacking? it's earning 3% at drugstores with chase freedom unlimited. so i can save on something special for a first date?

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