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proof of what happens when you fight for the city that you love. the first black mayor of new bern, alabama, despite literally locked out of town hall by his white residents. i'm charles coleman junior in for ayman mohyeldin and we have a lot to talk about, let's do it. would begin the saturday with tale of two elections and how in the span of weeks, we have seen complete turnabout of fortunes. you can tell that donald trump is rattled because he is still obsessed with joe biden. >> the presidency was taken away from joe biden. if we did not have a debate, he would still be there, can you imagine? why the hell that i debate him ? i hear he will make a comeback at the democrat convention, he will walk into the room, he will say, i want my presidency back.

>> donald trump the fortuneteller, what has him off of his game? think back to a few weeks ago when democrats were looking at the reality of losing in november, all of the odds, polling, otherwise leaning in trump's favor, including the survey from the new york times siena college finding that donald trump was leading president biden following the poor debate performance. democrats spiraled over what to do, there was nation attempt on the former president's life and a hero's welcome at the rnc. at that moment, democrats were united and republicans unified. at the convention, it was game over, the democrats realize that. fast-forward a bit in the script, it has been flipped. thanks to a combination of vice president, harris becoming the democratic nominee and her selection of minnesota governor tim walz as her running mate.

the enthusiasm on the left is real, harris and walz are campaigning across the country with packed rallies that would undoubtedly make donald trump jealous. we all know when it comes to trump and crowd turnout, size matters. in fact, harris and walz will rally the supporters in the next hour in las vegas, nevada. they are taking the stage tonight with big news, that is a significant blow to donald trump. there is a new, new york times siena poll that indicates harris leads trump within the margin of error in three key swing states. michigan, pennsylvania, and wisconsin. whatever reason, trump and his campaign have been caught flat footed as a new york times reports today, trump finds the change from biden to harris, quote, disorienting. according to trump's close ally, his triumphant welcome at the rnc seems like a foggy memory, almost like it never happened. it is literally as kamala harris stepping into the rain has left donald trump

punchdrunk. this political panic is not isolated to team trump. allies on the right wing and media appear to be desperate as well. >> one of the boys, cracked a beer, shoot a rifle, but is also really in favor of gun control and trans kids . >> why did he honeymoon in china? >> walking is the bernie sanders of democratic governors . >> did you know that he has zero investments? >> the man felt the need to false impression about his coaching position, in truth, he was the assistant coach. >> what are y'all talking about? we are three months away from the election and in political years, that is a lifetime and anything can happen as we see with the current democratic turnaround that they have seen. it is hard to deny democrats are experiencing an energy they have not seen since 2008. it is that kind of hope that

truly has donald trump and his running mate, j.d. vance, completely wigged out. we have a great panel to start us off the saturday, msnbc analyst and pollster and ameshia cross, democratic strategist and former obama campaign adviser. thank you for starting us off. ferdinand, anything can change when it comes to elections, we have seen the pendulum swing in a few weeks, as a pollster, we know that polls are not necessarily predictive but they can give you a sense of where things are a if you're talking to the audience right now, how do you set expectations about any potential momentum swings we might see inside the next 90 days? >> i think it absolutely bears noting that the momentum is real, it is not fake vibes or news because we can see it in the data that the shift of one kamala harris became the

nominee of the democratic party and the polling is compelling, we have seen movement outside the margin of errors, not just the national polls that show and predict kamala harris ahead with the popular vote, also more importantly, in the swing states, battleground states that will decide the election, biden was behind five or six points, harris is ahead by three, four, five points in some cases. night and day change. here is a word of caution, you touched on it a few moments ago, there is tremendous feeling of goodwill and energy and momentum but the democrats cannot start celebrating like the victory, many folks watching the olympics on nbc have seen, there have been many races were all of a sudden someone is behind and they sprint ahead. the last meters, you can see the charges and they overtake them. democrats cannot allow that to happen. good news for democrats is, i think to have another fantastic two weeks ahead of them because

between the campaign that is been great all over the country, the rallies, that democratic convention, i think could send democratic numbers even higher because you will see unity, republicans coming out at that convention for the harris/walz ticket and they have the secret weapon in tim walz, who is the best communicator today in democratic politics. he is a phenom, we have not seen anything like him yet and since most voters are getting to know him and more fall in love with him, i think that will help the harris ticket rise higher. >> the best indicator in democratic politics today, that is a really, really tall claim. let's say that it is true, it puts republicans even more so behind the eight ball. one thing i've been wondering, how is it it seems like the trump campaign and everyone associated with them have been caught so flat-footed, it is not like kamala harris came out

of nowhere, it is not like she wasn't on the previous ticket. at some point, they would've had to prepare j.d. vance to debate her anyways, they would have been thinking about these different arguments and attacks, they would have to reprioritize them. for me, i can't understand it, can you help us understand why that is? >> thanks for having me. first off, two rings happened here. one was democrats after the flip of the ticket, there was a little bit of disarray that i think republicans were not counting on, they were counting on what they heard from some media sources, as well as some people who have notoriety within the democratic party that this was going to be a fight, there would be other names, other names that we recall thrown out there, that were not kamala harris, the governor of california, the governor of michigan, even governor shapiro, several people's names came up, i think that republicans were hoping there would be cafeteria level fight to see who would come out on top. meanwhile, skipping over vice president, harris to get the

nomination. i also think one of the other things we saw was that republican, honestly, the only had one line of a take -- attack for kamala harris since she was named vice president, race and gender. they have attacked her on those things quite some time and they were fine not changing the narrative. when they saw it fell flat, fell flat to talk about her in racial terms, to say that she is not black, it fell flat to shop at the national association of black journalists in a room full of people and try to denigrate the vice president for her race and make her choose. i think that was something that was their line of attack that did not work. between that and ideology that anybody was going to be picked for this role that was not vice president harris, i think was ill-fated, ignorant, quite frankly, out of lockstep with how the process works. she was heir apparent, someone who would be chosen, someone who the current president threw his full support behind immediately after he decided he

was no longer going to pursue this and i think they were not ready for what would be a combination of fundraising efforts, the fast-track speed at which we have seen for organizing efforts across the country and battleground states. quite frankly, a nation that seems to be strongly in support of someone new, someone fresher, someone who happens to be of biracial background, someone that speaks to what america wants, hope. what america wants, something to believe in, not fear tactics, strategies that take us back but someone that has a future. >> fernand amandi, when you started talking, focused on the momentum the harris/walz campaign has enjoyed right now, at the same time, donald trump appears to be and reportedly experiencing a great deal of buyers remorse regarding his vice president pick in j.d. vance. if you are thinking about strategy, you're in the harris/walz campaign, do you capitalize on that? do you let it go? how much of

that you play into in terms of trying to get into donald trump's had by attacking his vp further and seeing if you might be able to soul division within that ticket. >> you don't let it go, not when you have the gift that keeps on giving in j.d. vance, who thinks that all single women are cat ladies, childless women, he attacked those that have chosen not to have kids, who every day seems to make a new stumble on the campaign. that is absolutely getting inside trump's head . the more he sees these attacks on j.d. vance, especially the weird one, now trump is convinced that is only about j.d. vance, it creates that buyers remorse, offkilter approach that trump has, if anything, what they might do is sidelined vance a little bit. harris/walz camps see the terminus opportunity, they will not let it go, especially with the prospect of a debate coming up with tim walz, who will

expose j.d. vance even further in that setting. >> and misha, before we go, a lot of conversation about the black vote and all the momentum we have seen around the campaign, that can be significantly stunted if people press the notion of, where is the policy from the harris/walz ticket likes yesterday marked the anniversary, tenure anniversary of the killing of michael brown, how much of a misstep might be if we don't hear anything from the campaign regarding the notion of police reforms, regarding criminal justice in connection, some contemporaneously with the tenure anniversary killing of mike brown. >> i think we are hearing it, on the campaign trail, one of the reasons why, there were several, governor walz was chosen, was his positioning when it came to pursuing justice for african americans who have experienced police brutality. we know what the record happens

to be. in addition to that, kamala harris was one of the early voices when it came to the george floyd justice in policing act. she has been out in front of that. after a number from the top of the ticket on down, when it comes to democrats, what is at stake is the house. for democrats, this is something extremely important because to get the policies across the finish line, it has to be more democrats in the house, ensure this is a democratic-led house. with that being said, very important we acknowledge kamala harris has always been on the forefront of these efforts and she will continue to do so. her policies are outlined as we speak, she is speaking to audiences across the country, particularly the battleground states about what this means. make no mistake, she has always been at the forefront of leading when it comes to fighting against police brutality and ensuring there's accountability. >> donetsk and ameshia cross, two of the very best to get us started on saturday, thank you for being here. looking at life pictures of the

vice president along with governor tim walz arriving in las vegas for a rally tonight, we will follow that throughout the program. up next, how long can the harris/walz campaign keep up the enthusiasm we were discussing? across the country, we are looking at everything that is being discussed as it pertains to their campaign after this, stay tuned. ♪ (woman) ugh. (vo) trade in any phone, in any condition. guaranteed at verizon. and get the new galaxy s24 on us. only on verizon. where ya headed? susan: where am i headed? am i just gonna take what the markets gives me? no. i can do some research. ya know, that's backed by j.p. morgan's leading strategists like us. when you want to invest with more confidence... the answer is j.p. morgan wealth management hi! need new glasses? whebuy one pair, get onewith free at visionworks! how can you see me squinting? i can't! i'm just telling everyone!...hey! buy one pair, get one free

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as her roommate this week, the vice president and governor walz on a tour of swing states filling up basketball arenas and reported record fundraising numbers. both will go to las vegas in the next hour, progressive voters are helping to fuel this enthusiasm. this week, the campaign got a huge boost from the working families party, which endorsed vice president harris saying that electing kamala harris as part of our plan to win for working people in 2024. the question is, what are those plans? with the harris campaign, the vibes are immaculate, memes , the online platform is yet to be seen. a short time ago, harris was asked about a policy agenda by reporters, let's hear what she said. >> reporter: when are you expected to roll out your policy platform? >> next week. it will be focused on the economy and what we need to do

to bring down costs and strengthen the economy abroad. >> with me now national director of the working families party, my friend, therese mitchell. i have to tell you guys before we get started, 20 years of friendship, 20 mac plus going back to 1997. i want to talk to you about the notion of the progressive arm of both independent voters and the democratic party finally getting behind kamala harris. what was i thinking around that and how it came about? >> sure. prop to drew hall's '97, it is good to be here. the working families party has been wrestling with november for months. for us, not just about personality, not just about people, it is about policy and

elections are about the future. even before we knew that vp harris would be at the top of the ticket, we understood it was our historical duty to defeat maga and their agenda, project 2025. once it was clear vp harris was at the top of the ticket, we wanted to get into the fight to have conversations with folks in north philly and milwaukee who are wrestling with real questions, wondering how to make ends meet. those are folks we are intimately connected to, who have real questions, have questions about the democratic and republican party, who are skeptical about electoral figures in general. for us to get into the fight early, we knew we had to pull the trigger and make this endorsement. we rendered the endorsement because the stakes could not be higher and the contrast could not be clearer. >> that being said, i think both are fine, how much of this is an endorsement of kamala harris former president versus a complete rejection of donald trump as the next president? >> i would say both things are true.

we both want to block the far right and maga. elections, again, just about individuals. donald trump and his campaign is electoral legal -- vehicle, maga is his movement, project 2025 is his agenda. we need to block it and build something else. tim walz, america's coach, something like that, let me tell you about the minnesota miracle. the minnesota miracle, what was that? neighbor unions, grassroot organizations and activists coming together to flip the legislature in minnesota. what did with the thin flipped the legislature? they passed a full throated working families agenda that included billions of dollars in public education, it included universal and free meals for schoolchildren. it included protecting abortion and labor rights. imagine if we made that

minnesota miracle something that can happen nationally, that is what we are fighting for. not just blocking the far right, also enthusiastic about getting to the other side of this election so we can build a future for the folks we are accountable to and we believe there is no question with this contract that is possible with vp harris as the president and vp harris as vice president >> i have a minute left, i have to ask, what are your plans to hold this administration, should kamala harris be successful, cannibal with how your party feels and party members feel about the conflict in the middle east with respect to israel and gaza? >> yesterday there was juxtaposition. yesterday in gaza, there is a terrible bombing of a school where dozens and dozens of people, including women and children, were killed. and the vp, we were heartened to see the vp in rhetoric recommitted to a cease-fire. we have been committed to a

cease-fire in gaza since october, not just committed to cease-fire but arms embargo. we believe that will interrupt the violence taking place. we believe the contrast could not be clearer, bibi netanyahu's chosen pick is donald trump and maga. we want to get on the other side of this election and push for peace and palestinian rights, and a cease-fire. >> who knew that 27 years ago we would be sitting here? i could not thank you enough. best of luck to you guys and the working families party. maurice mitchell, thank you. , after the break, why the vice president is shutting down the trumpian, locke, chants at her rallies. we have more on "ayman" in just a moment. like eggland's best eggs. ( ♪♪ ) they're just so delicious. ( ♪♪ ) with better nutrition, too. ( ♪♪ )

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turn the tables on her political opponent, she is not, despite the fact donald trump has been convicted of multiple felonies. >> hold on, okay, this campaign, our campaign, is not just a fight against donald trump. our campaign, this campaign, is a fight for the future. hold on, hold on you know what, here is the thing, the courts will handle that, we will beat him in november. >> what you just saw is a very delicate balance for democrats with less than 90 days until the election. there is a urge by some to frank raced against donald trump as the stark reality that it is, former prosecutor versus recently convicted felon. yet, they are doing so with caution, reminding voters that his convictions without politicizing his legal cases. with me as democratic attorney

of nevada and democratic general , attorney general chris mays of arizona, thank you for being here. attorney general ford, what is your thought around kamala harris' approach condemned the presentation of her own experience as an ag between the types of parallels we are seeing with respect to the cases she has prosecuted and donald trump's convictions? >> first off, thank you for having me on, always great to see my colleague, chris mays. to your question, it is a great opportunity we have with a former prosecutor being the candidate for president and i'm delighted to be supportive and i do think her experience, she has said herself as prosecuting former fraudsters, former predators, former scammers, specifically as it directly relates to the individual on the other side of the aisle,

who is a standard-bearer for the republican party. i think she is able to come in her own words, prosecute the case in luxor -- electoral stance against mr. trump and ride the wave to victory . >> and if you know you're talking to former prosecutor so this is a lot of fun for me. attorney general chris mays, i would love you to comment on the delicate line the democratic party, particularly the campaign has to toe with kamala harris as the sitting vice president and pending federal charges against donald trump and the appearance of impropriety that could result if the vice president leans into this notion or narrative of donald trump not only is it convicted fellow but someone under indictment in several jurisdictions. >> charles, it is a great question. i think what we saw yesterday here in arizona, where i think there was a small smattering of

those chants that broke out and the vice president quickly handled that, like a leader, she handled it like a leader. this is something the courts will handle and that is true, you know. here in arizona, we have a fake electors case, other states with these cases, you have the federal case going on. kamala harris is both a former local prosecutor, as you know, she is also former attorney general of the state of california. she knows these matters are supposed to be handled in the courts. what she is saying is, we are going to win this in november. americans are going to have their voices heard in november. frankly, yesterday was a remarkable day in arizona. we had 16,000, 16,000 people

turn out for one of the largest, if not the largest political rally in the history of our state for nonincumbent presidential candidate. it was a joyful, brilliant rally in which the vice president, vice president harris and tim walz laid out their positive agenda for america. >> attorney general ford, one of the things i talked about is in 2020, when kamala harris first ran for president, i feel like it was a missed opportunity particularly among black voters, to have a real conversation about the role of the prosecutor, particularly black prosecutors because that is a space that often times gets misconstrued or on one hand, black communities deserved to be safe like anyone and everyone else, they also deserve to not necessarily be over policed or worry about excessive prosecution by prosecutors. do you think that is something she can lean into

now to address some of her critics and if so, how does she do that, or does she not even need to? >> absolutely, i think you're right about that. as the first black attorney general in the state of nevada, i myself had the opportunity to bridge that particular gap. what you talk about relative to the african american and black community wanting to have safe neighborhoods is exactly right. i don't know one person that wants to live in unsafe neighborhood, irrespective of what your background is it is interesting because we had interesting relationship the black community has with law enforcement. remember the 1990s, the song from flavor flav, 911 is a joke, you want to call 911 when you need help but contemporaneous song was a song that talked about how bad the police were when they showed up. the truth of the matter is, we will police to show up, we want law enforcement incarnate to protect us but we want

constitutional policing. i believe kamala harris, talking about the way she approached the terminal justice system, can bridge the gap and talk about the importance of law enforcement in the african american context. she has done a good job talking about criminal justice and reform issues, she has done a great job ensuring criminals are locked up but also don't recidivate and they are reintegrated back into our communities. that comes from a perspective that so often times is not present in the top law enforcement officer in the state, as she was as attorney general or a particular county. i look forward to her bringing that to the presidential office as well, as she has done in the vps office. >> following up, i think there is a very clear delineation and declaration of who kamala harris was as a prosecutor, not the progressive, superduper leftist leaning person the right would have you believe. she was, in many respects, a centrist that had policies that leaned into popular is him and

somewhat leaned left. now that we are talking about her running for president, is there a space for her to bridge who she was, her actual record as a centrist with the more progressive arm of people wanting more progressive policies around criminal justice and are really getting into the weeds of this? >> i think absolutely, there is that opportunity there. she has begun to demonstrate that, even when she was a u.s. senator. and as vice president, supporting the george floyd and policing act in her current capacity and ensuring we continue to have conversations around constitutional policing. i think that is certainly relevant to the more progressive community, but also certainly specifically related to something she sincerely holds as a belief about it, policing in all neighborhoods, specifically in the context you're talking about with the african american community.

>> last question to you, attorney general mayes, we focused on in the coming months as democratic attorney general with the election ahead, what is it you think vice president harris should be on her own campaigning about as things start ramping up? >> i think she is hitting all the right notes right now, when she was here in arizona yesterday, she talked about upholding reproductive rights and making sure that we never see a national abortion ban in america, which is exactly what donald trump and j.d. vance want to hand to americans if they are elected. in arizona, we have already had to deal with the effects of the trump supreme court in the form of 1864 era abortion ban. she also talked about holding corporate landlords accountable when they engage in price fixing. she talked about making sure that we address climate change

and extreme heat, which both arizona and nevada are having to deal with. i think harris and walls are hitting all the right issues, they are talking about the issues that matter most to americans, that are hitting americans in their pocketbooks. they need to continue to make that positive case, along the campaign trail and to do it in this incredibly joyful, happy, or your way they are doing. man, are they ever building momentum out there. >> attorney general aaron ford of nevada and kris mayes of arizona, thank you for being here. after the break, the connection between elon musk and the violent right across the pond in the uk. stay right there, you are watching "ayman" on msnbc. i felt like disconnecting. i asked my doctor about treating my td,

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this week in the united kingdom, massive rallies other ministries to counter phobia, racism, anti-migrant bigotry. the bigotry was vile and violent. before the protest had led to riots and far right mobs targeting muslims and asylum- seekers with violence, these rallies were welcome sign from all backgrounds come together to fight for their collective freedom and protect one another . it is important to understand why the violent mobs formed in the first place, if i'm a phobia and anti-immigrant bigotry are not new in the uk

but in this case, the incitement for the riots stem from dangerous and racist lies online. when you think of dangerous and racist lies online, who is the first person that comes to mind? no, not him but the other guy. if you said, elon musk, ding ding ding, you are correct. look at how this started, on august 1st, within hours of a stabbing attack in northwest england that killed three young girls, right-wing influencers falsely penned the blame on a muslim migrant. the truth is, the attacker was not a migrant and not a muslim. he was underage so his identity was not immediately revealed. during the critical hours, the information vacuum was filled with far right disinformation. by the time a judge agreed to release the identity of the attacker, a british born citizen, the damage had already been done. this information spread like wildfire on social

media, violent protesters were clashing with police and outside nearby mosques, the first of several violent protests in and across england that included riots, attacks on hostiles, those hostiles housing asylum-seekers, and the harassing of ethnic minorities in the street. one of the chief instigators of far right uk activist named tommy robinson, who was banned from twitter in 2018 for hateful conduct. he was reinstated by elon musk to what is called x last november. platforming violent right wing extremist is not at all what elon musk has done to spark these attacks, he added fuel to the fire by posting that, quote, civil war is inevitable. that being response to a video showing right-wing rioters clashing with police, and which spread information from his own account, on x, has gotten so bad that the british prime minister keir starmer's is feuding with musk and calling

his actions dangerous. they're hoping to summon him to testify. unfortunately, there are limits to their power, and burke suggest that falsehoods amplified on musk's platform fueled unrest but even in britain, which has passed one of the most ambitious laws to regulate toxic, online behaviors, stories are hamstrung to discuss the dangerous life but proliferate across telegram, tiktok, or x. in the face of violent right- wing mobs and the powerful that inside them, we see the parallels and make the connection can understand this as transnational issue in the collective fight for freedom, the question becomes, what can we do about it? after all, we are facing similar threats in america. let's listen to the voice of one of the organizers of these antiracist, anti-fascist.

>> whatever we do today, whatever we do with this protest, the one thing we're not going to do, they will not intimidate! >> my muslim neighbors are my brothers and sisters. if they are under attack, i'm under attack because they are part of my community. this is a scale of attack we have never seen the like of before, these people are emboldened by what happened in france, emboldened by people like trent and they are highly dangerous and our communities have to come together. i became involved in antiracist activity from 30 plus years ago, i come from jewish background, i know the damage fascism causes to families, it wiped out jewish culture across eastern europe. this is my history, i feel like i have anti-fascist blood running through my veins, i stand up for anybody who is oppressed because for me, to be oppressed, to be that minority and not have people understand how wonderful and human and great you are and allow this division to have people

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wilson from the smash franchise, back to the future. the first film takes place in 1995, server that works at the diner, strange encounter with a stranger from the future, inspired to run for the mayor of fictional hill valley, he wins. one can only imagine the obstacles he what i face in 1955, doors shut in his face, locked out of his own office, folks refusing to work with him. what if i were to type in real life, a black man duly elected in an mostly white town who had to face all of that and worse? only it was not 1955 and i don't have a delorean, this is very much so present-day and very much so real life in new bern, alabama, tiny town of 130 something residents, 90 minutes selfless of birmingham, it is 80% black and 20% white. it is so small, it has not held

an election since the 1960s but instead, mayors have been selected through a hand-me-down system where white residents would appoint another white person over and over again. that changed four years ago when the white residents of new bern forgot to continue their system. so, a black resident, patrick braxton filed for candidacy unopposed and as such, he became the new mayor. what happened next felt like something out of the dream in -- jim crow south, when he assumed his role as mayor, they would not have it, they locked him out of town hall and town council said that the town held a special election to fill the vacancy and only white people won. after years of legal battles challenging the practice and not holding elections, a federal judge signed off in a settlement officially giving him his mayoral powers. it forces the white residents to hand over official documents and allow mayor braxton into

town hall. as part of the settlement, rapist will hold its first democratic election since 1965 next year. joining us is newbern mayor patrick paxton and anita wong, attorney for the legal defense fund. welcome to you both, mayor braxton, tell me where things are, you have had a tremendous journey, you have the keys, do you have the documents? that is the first thing i've got to know ? >> yes, i have the keys. >> that's what we want to start with. >> as we go forward, what are you prioritizing for your work with the citizens of new bern? >> make sure everybody the priority, everyone treated equal inside the city limit from now on, you have the right to vote when the election comes. >> i want to ask you as the

lawyer on this case, what was the biggest obstacle you dealt with in terms of getting to this point of having the duly elected mayor be able to assume his duties? >> is a little bit like what you said, we expected the piece to be over because it was such a flagrant violation of the u.s. constitution, the voting rights act, yet, the defendants did not think they did with anything wrong, they maintained that they held a special election to fix what they admitted they had not done, which is hold elections for 60 years. it was a weird experience litigating something like this, at the end of the day, so glad we were able to get the defendants to admit they had indeed violated the plaintiff's rights and make mayor braxton mayor again. >> mayor braxton, throughout this entire ordeal, what was it that kept you going in the face

of opposition, this is something you have been fighting for years, i'm sure everyone in newbern was aware of, what fueled you throughout the entire time to keep on keeping on ? >> my faith and my cherished family, and my brothers and sisters, kept me pushing, they told me if you believe you are right, stand for that, don't back off. >> that is good advice that kept you going and kept you where you are. leah, when you look at what happened in the case of mayor braxton and newbern, direct line of issue the access to the ballot that has been so much discussed on the national level, it is clear this is something democrats are concerned about, is there, in your opinion, a message that we can draw from what happened in newbern that we can expand on nationally making this a priority, something very important and understood to be

important by voters? >> absolutely. the same week mayor braxton was inducted as mayor, the 59th anniversary of the voting rights act, which has been guided by the supreme court over and over again. that proves we are not at that multiracial democracy that maybe some justices think we are at. we have to keep fighting in the courts, on the streets, also attending local official meetings. most importantly, maybe in the legislature to pass voting rights acts across the state or federally that will actually protect minority communities to be able to vote. at the same time, i think the resurgence of the right-wing tactics of sowing distrust,

they never had elections for 59 years, anyone things that we don't need to do everything we can to expand the right to vote, for those that have historically been kept from voting is wrong. >> mayor, i will give you the last word, what is your hope, your vision for the future of newbern ? >> my vision is to rebuild the town and bring everybody together, not separated like the past. everybody should get along and love each other and care about each other in this town. >> simply put in super well said. mayor patrick preston and leah wong. thank you very much. more coming up after a super short break. treat for eosinophilic asthma that is taken once every 8 weeks. ( ♪♪ ) fasenra helps prevent asthma attacks. most patients did not have an attack in the first year.

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on this new hour of "ayman", harris/walz campaign campaigning while trent stayed home. targeting a different battleground, my panel is here to discuss. employers are dropping like flies as one former attorney cuts a deal in arizona. will she turn on her maga allies? >> recount j.d. vance is, dare i say, really weird week. why he is receiving the wrong attention. i'm charles coleman in for