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walz joined kamala harris on the campaign blitz this week. but, what should americans know as the minnesota governor introduces himself to the nation? to answer that we are asking his governing partner penny peggy flanagan. >> good morning to you. so good to see you. i love this detail from a mother jones piece titled, how paul wellstone helps give us tim walz. the instructors were mostly young politicals with campaign experience. penny flanagan, 25-year-old veteran of the wellstone campaign, and the native american organizer who had the previous year winning minneapolis school board seat. he worked tim walz instructor before you were his governing partner. if i had told you 20 years ago that he would one day be a vice presidential contender, would you have been surprised? >> i probably wouldn't have been surprised, because he really embodied all of the things that we love so much
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about senator wellstone. that he was authentic, and connected to people. and just knew who he was. you know, when he first came into camp wellstone he was wearing jeans, and a t-shirt. tennis shoes. and he said, i'm tim walz. i'm a teacher from mankato, and i want to run for congress in the first congressional district. and we said, as a democrat? he said, yeah. we were like, okay come on in. i watched that weekend as he was just so ready for this moment to serve his community, and had felt so fortunate to be on this journey with him for almost the last 20 years. and i think one of the things, he's a teacher. one of the things about being a good teacher is also you want a good learner. and that is something i saw that weekend, and that i continue to see as he has met
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with folks, and worked with people like myself who have life experiences that are different from his own. and he's been opened, and learn from them. and learning how to bring folks together through cross -- i'm a tim walz superfan, but it's really fun to see my buddy. right? on the campaign trail, and having a lot of fun with the vice president. he knows how to partner with a woman of color, and i'm just over the moon to see what they are going to be able to do together. >> lieutenant governor flanagan, in the aftermath of governor walz being selected as vice president here as his running mate. there were all of these folks -- matches folks in the republican party apparatus. there were some democrats who said, i don't know. his record as governor might be problematic. the record as governor as i understand it is ensuring girls at school have the -- you know, the healthcare items that they need in terms of tampons or
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pads. children being able to eat lunch for free, and not have to worry about being able to pay for it. it means women being able to make decisions about their own bodies. i didn't know that this was radical. how has it been just -- the way your record is being -- you, and governor walz's record as governing partners is being talked about in a way in which somehow have healthy kids in school is something that people want all over the country. >> as a kitty group with free or reduced price lunch i can tell you how incredibly important that policy is. we've been very clear that we want to make minnesota the best date in the country to raise a family. and we've been solidly grounded in making sure that middle- class families have an opportunity. the way you do that is to pass policies that improve people's lives. like as you said, making sure kids have breakfast and lunch at school so they have full
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bellies. so they can learn, and following the model of the biden/harris administration. a child tax credit that will help lower child poverty by a third in our state. the largest infrastructure bill ever signed into law. the largest tax cut for middle- class families in the history of the state. all these things. right? add up to opportunity. and i think, you know as the governor said. oh, no. we are doing things to make sure that the people can make it. that's what governing should be all about. is listening directly to the experiences of people's lives. and then doing something about it. nobody should be surprised that this is what we did with our time in office. this is what we heard from folks all across minnesota about what they needed in order to thrive in their community. >> so, lieutenant governor. i remember when i was in your
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position. i used to drive around with my bible in the car, because you never know. right? you just never know when you need to pull that out, and take it out the office. >> i thought you were proselytizing, medical. i didn't know you needed it for a swearing-in. >> i was like, yes. >> you got to be prepared, right? that's what makes us good number two's. we are always prepared. and you, yourself are in a unique position. potentially becoming a historic figure. not just for your state, but for the country. showed the selection to play out as many hope, and the good governors moved to washington. you madam, lieutenant governor will become the first highest ranking native american woman elected to an executive office.
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you are a member of the white earth band of ojibway. and that speaks volumes on so many levels of how this country continues to recognize its future, and its history at the same time. give me some of your thoughts as you look at having worked, and governed with the governor. but, now potentially stepping into that mantle of leadership in your own right. >> well, michael i'm glad you asked that question. you know the number one job of second-in-command is to be ready. and often times it's because there is some tragic event where you have to step in. in this instance it would be a joyful occurrence. the governor is still the governor, and we have 85 days to make sure that, harris, and
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tim walz are elected president and vice president. but, as soon as you accept that place on a ticket you say i'm ready. and i'm ready for whatever the future holds, because that is your role. being the highest ranking native woman in executive office, in this moment has meant that young people can see themselves in places that frequently i never could. and the reality for my daughter who's 11 is that auntie deb is the secretary of the interior. auntie charisse is in congress. representation matters, and i think we are in a moment that frequently is bigger than any of us ever dreamed possible. on the night when president biden, and kamala harris were elected my daughter was sitting in my lap. and as the vice president was walking across the stage in her white suit, my daughter turned her head up to me and said mommy she looks like me.
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i mean, that is the power of this moment. it's also the power of the legacy of president biden. of creating a space of a woman of color to lead. and she is ready. she is ready to be the president of the united states. and tim walz recognizing that too. the voice of a native american woman, a suburban mom, a nonprofit leader. that was a voice that was necessary to be at the table. so, we are in a moment. and i'm honored, and humbled to be a part of it. and the chair of the lieutenant democratic governors association. the most diverse group of elected officials in the country who are ready to go. and i can't wait to see what's next for all of us. it's a hopeful time. >> lieutenant governor, there was a big endorsement that came in for the harris/tran14 team. that came from george floyd's brother.
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i'm going to a little bit of what he said. at first, speaking about walz here. he was just a regular governor looked like a politician. then he stood up, and put keith ellison in the place as a prosecutor. and that should a lot of people he was not playing. if it wasn't for governor walz we would not be able to walk around, and say we got some accountability. no secret to you that donald trump is going to focus on this period of crisis. minnesota try to rewrite history as the person who was standing by governor walz sighed as he made his way through this as a governing crisis. what did you witness? what you want us to know about how that was handled? >> i mean, first of all it was a tremendous trauma for our entire community. he watched our hearts be ripped right out of our chests. with the murder of george floyd. and we are all still healing from it. i watched a governor who is compassionate, and thoughtful step up and bring people together. at a time where we felt
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incredibly fractured. and i watched him just to step up to the moment, and i've seen that over, and over again in his leadership. and i find it interesting, and i say that in the most minnesotan way possible. that donald trump is trying to critique at all the governor's response. one frankly, he on tape praise to the governor for -- governor tim walz in that moment. you know, at the same time and that was all happening, donald trump was calling for the police to shoot at protesters. you couldn't have sort of more of a contrast there, and as far as i know the only person who caused a riot. who's running for the highest or second highest office in the land is donald trump with january 6th. so, i just watched tim walz,
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and his big heart on full display. and i think that's probably what the rest of the country saw too. >> lieutenant governor flanagan, i just think your insights on governor walz. but, also your words earlier that gave me chills. that made me think of the langston hughes poem. i too am america. i think at this moment when everyone is collectively experiencing is this is a place for them as well. in the election season where it has really been -- it's been a little dark up until this point. so, thank you for bringing some light here this morning. and the joy. and shadow to the midwest. native nebraskan. >> you just feel at home. >> there are people of color in the midwest, folks. okay? >> that's right. they are everywhere, you all. >> okay. peggy flanagan. thank you so much.
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donald trump january 6th case, yes. what happened to it? we are going to talk about it, because it's delayed another three weeks. we are going to discuss why. this is the weekend on msnbc. new gain relax flings. (vo) they're back! verizon small business days are here. august 5th to the 11th. get a free tech check. and special offers. like a free 5g phone, when you switch. don't miss out. get started today.
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the justice department's legal fight against donald trump may be delayed, but it's not over. the new september 5th hearing has been set after special counsel jack smith granted the delay in trumps 2020 obstruction case. smith requested more time to review the supreme court's ruling last month for presidential immunity. trump really believes the immunity ruling should translate into a blanket get out of jail free card. the rolling quote, demands and requires of the complete and total dismissal of all the legal challenges against him. joining us now, msnbc justice and legal affairs analyst anthony coley. he's the former director of the office of public affairs.
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and new york university law professor, andrew weissman. he's a former fbi general counsel. and cohost of the podcast, prosecuting donald trump. >> so, here we are. i'm excited that we are getting to talk about these cases again, because they kind of recessed into the background. anthony, what is jack smith doing here with this process with the justice department? you know, parsing through these immunity decisions. what do they need these extra time for right now? >> what i and public affairs at doj i was still back in office, i had four tvs. i would watch talking heads like i am now. like andrew weissman's. tried to read the tea leaves, and figure out what was happening. sometimes they got it right. frequently, they didn't. so, what we know for sure is happening. what we know for sure in this case is that donald trump was
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indicted by a jury of his peers. we know this. this is not politically motivated as he suggested. the other thing we know is if this case moves forward. if he's tried, and convicted he faces the very real prospect of spending the rest of his life behind bars. those are the stakes. and that's why we see jack smith just taking a little more time to get this right. to consult with the other major components of the justice department. the office of legal counsel. the office of solicitor general. we know before this case can really ever get started, it's going to go back to the supreme court again. so, our friend george vance put it really well. she cited this old african proverb. she said, if you want to go far, go alone. if you want to go fast go alone. if you want to go far, go together. >> i don't understand though. i don't understand.
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you know? i hear what you are saying. okay? we only know what we know. and because we are out here, and not in there we don't know too much. we are trying to read the tea leaves. but, i don't understand. entry. help me, and the folks. i'm just here as a viewer. just why we're talking about this morning. >> let me give you the big picture i might take home, and then i'll give you a more direct answer to your question. big picture for those people who want to see legal accountability for donald trump. it means that kamala harris has to win the election. we are talking about the january 6th case, like the florida case. they are dead in the water if donald trump becomes president. similarly, the supreme court case that has caused all these problems for all of these cases. if you care about the composition of the supreme court, you vote for kamala
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harris. the immunity decision is so dangerous. as she has been saying, and as president biden has been saying. which is remarkable, because these are people who are now in the white house saying the supreme court has given the white house too much power. what do i think is going on? i think there's probably a bit of tension between jack smith who is a career prosecutor. who is a sort of very hard charging, and i'm sure as the special counsel in charge of this case wants to go forward as best as possible. i think he probably wants to have a factual hearing. the factual hearing that's going to be required by the supreme court decision. and i think you'd like to have that sooner rather than later. so, fax get out into the record. and from witnesses that we do not know about, and have not heard from even in the january 6th hearing. such as mike pence, and certain lawyers in the white house who worked for donald trump. but, as anthony correctly said.
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merrick garland is a cautious, careful, thoughtful man with many, many components of the department of justice who all have equities. because the supreme court's decision on immunity is so bad. and it raises so many issues for the department. that is i think the tug-of-war. and i really do think the submission that you read from really tells you everything. there are other parts of the departments that would need to wait -- weigh in on this decision. i think that's the tension for why he has asked for, and has been given the three-week delay. >> let's talk about the interplay between the campaign, and everything we are talking about. so, we are going to take a listen to vice president harris on the stump. this is in las vegas. the crowd, you can hear them chance lock him up. >> i took on perpetrators of
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all kinds. predators who have abused women. fraudsters who have ripped off consumers. scammers who broke the rules for personal gain. so, nevada. hear me when i say i know donald trump's type. well, hold on. hold on. hold on. the court is going to take care of that. we are just going to beat him in november. >> that is part of the tension, anthony. as nbc notes there's a practical reason for here is avoiding showing any support for that type of language. any comments, signs of approval could further delay or complicate the pending criminal charges trump is facing. she understands what is at stake here. >> she absolutely does, and ryan o'reilly wrote that. that report you just mentioned. it's one of the best g doj press reports on the beat.
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the issue is, everything she says on the campaign trail could be used in a court proceeding. right? so, what we saw here is kamala harris not just a politician. we saw kamala harris the prosecutor, and attorney general who was well aware of the process. and who is committed to not allowing the political environment to seep into what will ultimately happen in a courtroom, in front of a jury. >> anthony coley, who i was warned about the beard. and i love it so much. i'm so glad somebody told me in advance. andrew wiseman, as always. >> we are negotiating on the beard. >> is giving well rested. >> thank you both so much for being with us. next, vice president harris said to make her first appearance with president biden since he gave up his candidacy. the knife democratic to call on biden dropping out joining us
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>> what happened was a number of my democratic colleagues in the house of senate thought i was going to hurt them in the races. and i was concerned if i stayed with the race that would be the topic. nancy pelosi said -- and i thought it would be a real distraction. >> how was president joe biden on cbs news just moments ago addressing his decision to end his re-election bid. while he, in vice president harris mean longer brain month running mates. they are headed to maryland this week for white house events that is aimed at highlighting the administration's efforts to lower costs for the american people. joining us now is democratic congresswoman, and member of the house mikey cheryl of new jersey. greetings. >> it's good to see you again.
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let's focus on the governing aspect. the politics is the politics. we all know how the campaigns are for that. but, to simone's point. the president finds himself having to still govern the country. what type of policy initiatives you think democrats should be helping and assisting the administration with in the remaining months of his term? does -- and that legacy of accomplishment that we've already seen from the chips act to infrastructure? to even bringing inflation down to 10% to 3%? there were still some runaway even though you are in a house of crazy. you know, given with how the republicans are running the joint. but, there are still some initiatives that can be leveled up by this administration with the help of democrats in the house. what would some of those be in your view? >> so, you know first of all as
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you sort of alluded to. we have difficulty just doing the day in the business with this majority in the house. and quite frankly, passing our budget. keeping the government open is our first priority. unfortunately, we think that'll be somewhat difficult over the next couple months. but, we also do have some -- in some of the thing the president did. making sure that the infrastructure law that we put into place with a biden administration. that we make sure we are continuing to find that. continuing to fix our crumbling roads and bridges. i would love to see us address housing. workforce housing. making sure that middle-class families have access to affordable housing. we know that the crisis across the country. and continuing to bring costs down for families. that's what i think we should be laser focused on, and i'm sure the president is.
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>> it's been interesting to hear vice president harris out on the stump talking about that affordability crisis. both in terms of housing as you referenced also in prices at the grocery store. as a matter of corporate greed. one of the things or the attacks that you have the trump/vance campaign launching against the harris, walz campaign as you know is about the governor's record of service. i want you to take a look at at what jd vance had to say. then we will talk on the other side. >> i wonder, tim walz when were you ever in work? what was this weapon that you carried into work? given that you abandoned your unit right before they went to iraq, and he has not spent a day in a combat zone. what bothers me about tim walz is the stolen valor garbage. >> congressman, as a navy pilot yourself. as someone who serves on the armed services committee. what is your response to that attack? >> you know, it's so incredibly
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offensive. this just takes me back to when i finished my service overseas. i have just come back to the united states after my final four. and the swiftboat attacks against john kerry launched shortly thereafter. and i wasn't called. yet, i've known people who were out in vietnam. they have the bullet scars to prove it. that's difficult. and to be attacked on that honorable service. knowing, for example people like donald trump avoided service by going to his dad's dr. to be falsely diagnosed with -- to get out of service. so, knowing someone had honorably served in difficult times in vietnam. then was attacked for it was so offensive to me. and to see the same guy. the same guy now launching these same attacks behind a lot of the same attacks against veterans. it's like, the republican party has become a one trick pony and his presidential campaigns.
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just attacking veterans. we saw of course the trump constantly attacking john mccain. too many of us veterans of the vietnam war. we've seen the attacks by trump as a veteran speaking suckers and losers. but, to now see this new generation of republicans attacking servicemembers. attacking service, like jd vance is incredibly offensive. especially, because vance is a veteran himself. i have to say it really enrages me. especially, because not only did i -- we saw walz joining us 17 serving for 20 years. i joined at 18. now, my 18-year-old daughter is in the navy. so, to see these attacks on servicemembers, and these attacks on veterans. it's just something that i cannot believe they are launching this again, and i think everybody should be offended by it. >> congresswoman, it strikes me that the trump campaign -- donald trump himself, and jd vance seem to be doing a very
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good job of trying to assert what they are against. i guess they are against childless women or women who did not birth children themselves. even if they are said parents. jd vance apologized to the cats, but not the ladies he is talking about. it seems like they are against folks being able to make decisions about their own bodies. in some respects, they are attacking tim walz. attacking specifically his record as governor, but also his military service. but, they haven't been able to yet dictate to us what they are in fact four. and i'm wondering how that's playing in your district. you are what we considered a frontline member in new jersey. what are you hearing from your constituents about the state of the race at this point? that the harris/tran14 campaign being clear. then you have donald trump, and jd vance. it sounds to me talking about what they are against. and i have yet to see a
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positive vision. but, i've heard a lot about retribution. >> sure. on the ground there is an incredible amount of excitement. like other congressional candidates across my state. we are receiving hundreds of phone calls of people who want to get engaged. want to support the harris/tran14 ticket. canvassing, phone banking, and they are signing people up to vote. so, that has been incredibly refreshing to have this kind of excitement on the ground. because i will tell you, we in new jersey know exactly what trump is four. he is for putin. he is for china. he is for dictators. he is for staying in office despite a democratic election that he lost. so, people in new jersey know the threat he faces, and around that they know the opportunity that the harris/tran14 campaign represents to our state and country. an idea that our future is so in line with our values.
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i always say that vice president harris just embodies the american dream. embodies the possibilities open in this country to people if that is the path we take. i can tell you in new jersey that is exactly the path we want this country to be on. >> so, governor. i mean, excuse me. my bad. >> it's the second time you've done that today, sir. >> my bad congresswoman. i am hearing from the peeps on the ground of your neighborhood that there could be a future -- campaign in your future. and that's interesting. you know, coming in line with my good friend christine todd whitman as the first woman governor. you'd be the first democratic woman governor of the state. anything you want to share with us today on that front? >> well, yes.
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as you know, as you probably heard i focus on 2024. making sure that we have president -- oh, excuse me. vice president harris as our next president. and making sure she gets across the finish line. i want to make sure we get good democrats up and down the ticket. we have got to flip the house of representatives to make sure that we can continue the agenda that we have of driving out across america for families. and yes, in '25 i'm strongly considering running for governor here in new jersey. but, we all have to get through '24 first. >> all right, there it is. one eye on the prize, and the other on another price. very good. >> well, that's the military veteran enemy. always concentrating on the current job. the future, and where you need to get to in your next job. we are constantly focused on
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how we can serve people here in new jersey better. so, thank you so much. it was great seeing everybody. >> we appreciate you congresswoman mikie sherrill from new jersey. much more still ahead. you are watching the weekend. be skin cells while you sleep. you'll see visible results in 7 nights. olay.
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>> we got a list of dnc speakers. which is not necessarily surprising. president biden will speak. former president obama. former president clinton, and former secretary of state hillary clinton. >> no answers yet on beyonce. we are still waiting. if you're watching to send me a text, grow. let me know what the situation is. i think we will see in the coming days, frankly more official list of speakers come out. you know, on a convention stage that is usually where you put your rising stars. vice president harris. former president obama. they convention stage. >> i made a debut on mine. >> how did it go? >> it fell flat. >> you ended up being a lieutenant governor. >> i think he's begging us to pull the sound, symone. we will have it for you next weekend, michael.
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so, you can relive your greatest hits. >> we will absolutely play you from your cat daddy days if you will. so, i'm looking forward to seeing what the dnc brings. again, this is one of the biggest moments for a campaign. a lot of people say okay, the dnc, and then people will settle. but, after the dnc people start voting. >> i think that lineup tells you it speaks to the historic moments that will occur on that stage as well to have former presidents, and certainly hillary clinton as a former -- the first woman running for the presidency like that. i think it's just kind of a nice package. for me it'll be interesting, to your point it'll be the others that fill in those rising stars. and others who sort of will be on the front line of a harris/walz administration in terms of policy, and advocacy. things like that.
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i think the democrats, when you compare these two conventions it's going to be dynamically different from what you saw happening in milwaukee. >> i will say one other point about the conventions. there have been three historic conventions if you will in history. the first was obviously the nomination of geraldine ferraro as first woman on the ticket. that was four years ago this year. then you have barack obama. the nomination of barack obama as the first black veteran. they have secretary clinton, 2016. first woman. now, vice president, harris. another historic convention. the fourth historic convention. >> and we haven't met any of that history on my side. >> i know. we are still waiting. >> set trump aside. we will be all right. coming up, we are going to take a turn into something. a south dakota community takes up the fight against right-wing
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years. a new msnbc documentary entitled, to be destroyed examines one communities fight against book banning in south dakota. the director of the film, arthur bradford joins us now. >> arthur, truly such an important film. i want to play a clip from this documentary will be here from an author whose book was pulled from the shelves. then we want to talk on the other side of that. >> i'm here, because my book along with four others was pulled from the shelves along with high school libraries. the students that were assigned the books were no longer allowed to read them. >> we decided many seniors in high school that were supposed to be reading them can come to mitzi's book and get them for free. >> seniors in high school are about to be totally independent people. they are treated as adults in the eyes of the law. and they certainly can handle a few passages, and a few books that have a little bit of sexual content to them or adult
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content. >> how often is this happening in south dakota specifically? we noted what happened within just the last week in utah. >> yeah. i don't know exactly the figures. i know it is definitely a nationwide trend. i think it was something that picks up shortly after the pandemic. a lot of the community sort of overhaul their school boards. i think this is one of the results. >> you have the number of banned books reaching all-time highs across the country. titles targeting for censorship surged 65% in 2023 compared to 2022 reaching the highest levels ever documented. by oif in over 20 years of tracking. 4240 unique book titles were
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targeted for removal from book schools and libraries. beyond the obvious, you know noise that you hear from far right extremists with respect to this. the one thing that has struck me is the lack of pushback in some sense. which is why i really appreciate the film, because you are basically saying hello, wake up. this is happening. and students are being impacted by this. what did you find in that regard? that you don't see this sort of nationwide sort of pushback against these extremists who are literally burning books, and banning books. and students of course saying, what's going on? >> yeah. i think what motivated us to make this film was in particular i had a relationship with dave eggers. the author.
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his book was removed from the schools. and what i like to learning was exactly what you are saying. this community in rapid city really did pushback. dave, when he found out his book had been removed, like you see in the clips. he made the book available for free at the local bookseller. and then the teachers, and students in rapid city invited him to come speak at their school. and he was inspired to do that. and we followed him out there to watch what happened there. and when we got there the teachers especially i think were really feeling like they needed someone to listen, and someone to hear what was going on. they are on the front lines of this. the teachers, and the students. so, we just wanted to give a microphone, and a camera to them to speak out.
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>> let's that microphone, and camera back to them. there's a clip from the movie. a student in south dakota talk about the impact of these book bans. >> if you give of us the books, you tell us you don't need to go through this if you don't want to. then one, you don't have to take it away. it's there for whoever wants it. two, whoever doesn't want it doesn't need to go through it. it can expand you as a person to experience things outside your comfort zone. but, we need to learn, and figure it out for ourselves. i don't think that it should be taken away from us. >> you know, the irony of people not wanting young people to read 1984 when they are basically living through 1984 is not lost on me. what surprised you most about what it was that you heard from these young people? >> you know, there was a few things. what i really was interested in
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hearing was not only from the young people themselves. i wouldn't say i was surprised. but, it wasn't really a nice revelation to see how intelligent, and articulate, and well spoken all the students were. i am a parent of high school students myself, and any parent of a high school student will say it's really hard to get kids to read these days. they spend a lot of time on their phone. and i think it's nice to see that kids are actually interested in this issue. and the other thing was that i really wanted to speak to the opposition. to speak to some of the people who are responsible for these book bans. and that was hard to do. it's hard to get people to speak out about that. but, i do -- as a parent i do recognize that it's a reasonable conversation to have. that there are some books maybe we don't want our kids to be taught in school. i think that's not a crazy
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thing to say. but, i think there's a real feeling. maybe in certain communities that teachers are out to quote, indoctrinate kids. and i think that's a problem. i think it was nice to hear teachers pushback on that. >> all right. author bradford. thank you so much. we really appreciate you coming by. arthur's new film to be destroyed tonight. you are watching the weekend. and coming up on the top of the hour. allie will be joined by senator bernie sanders to talk all things 2024, and a whole lot more. so, stick around. k around. before they've left the ground. this is how business goes further with t-mobile for business. [audience laughing] worried you'll laugh so hard you'll leak? well always discreet can hold your biggest gushes
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