that does it for me today. don't worry, we will be back with you tomorrow night at 8:00 p.m. eastern, and remember, that you can catch me every saturday and sunday with my friends alecia and simone on the weekend, 8:00 eastern. but for now, stay around. there's so much more news coming up on msnbc. msnbc. >> good day from washington bureau. welcome to alex witt reports. i'm ali vitali -- in for alex.

85 days to election day and eight days to the democratic national convention. today, vice president kamala harris is in san francisco for a political event. donald trump also fundraising out west this weekend. as they hit the trail, president biden opens up for the first time detailing why he left the race and back to harris as the nominee in his place. >> it was a neck and neck race. went down to the wire, but what happened was a number of my democratic colleagues in the house and senate thought that i was going to hurt them in the races. and i was concerned if i stayed in the race, that would be the topic. i can even say how old i am. it's hard to get out of my mouth, but things got moving so quickly. it didn't happen. and the combination was that i thought there was a critical issue for me still and it's not

a joke, maintaining this democracy. harris campaign officials picked up the raton and are running with it, hitting swing states to harness the renewed energy and enthusiasm from voters across the country. we knew this was going to be a close election and it's going to be a close election and that's why we are not taking a victory lap. we have 260 chlorinated officers, we have more than 16,000 staff that are out there and that's just the battleground states, making sure we are knocking doors, making sure we turn out. one critic who previously said there was no energy now says that dems are on the right track with lots of work left ahead. if the democrats, i'm not spiking the football yet. the job is not done. you still have to bring this thing home in november. i think that there's a lot of energy. people be keep calling this the

honeymoon phase. i don't think it's the honeymoon phase. people have been energized in the democratic party in a long time. i think a lot of voters, you know, if you're an independent, undecided person, you haven't been energized for something in a long time. meanwhile, the trump campaign on its allies try to turn up the heat on harris, saying it's time for the vice president to answer questions on immigration and the economy . >> we always knew this would be a close election. whoever the democrats choose to put up against president trump, but the more the american people learn about kamala harris, the less they are going to like her. let's start with nbc's julie adjuster who is following the campaign from delaware. julia, what are we hearing -- going into the convention? >> reporter: well, ali, -- in nevada, answering questions from the economy to gaza and

her potential policy rollout. she told reporters that it could come as early as next week. she plans to roll out policy plans largely on the economy and on the situation in gaza which escalated this weekend with that is really strike on the school. the vice president was pressed about administration policy on how to reduce civilian casualties. here is what she had to say about the situation in gaza. >> israel has a right to go after the terrorists that are hamas but as i have said many, many times, they also have, i believe, an important responsibility to avoid civilian casualties. the president and i have been working on this around the clock. we need to get the hostages out. we need a cease-fire. and i can't stress that strongly enough. it needs to get done, the deal needs to get

done and it needs to get done now. >> reporter: now the vice president has not -- an opportunity to distance herself a bit from existing administration policy. she's not quite done that. she had an opportunity to speak to that in that answer but stuck to the talking points for the most part. but we will see the vice president this week with president biden. it will be their first appearance together since biting backed out of the race and harris became the democratic nominee. they will be appearing in maryland together on thursday and looking further ahead, nbc news has reporting on some of the speakers of the democratic national convention in chicago coming up. president joe biden will speak at the convention as well as former president barack obama and both former president clinton and secretary hillary clinton as well. will be interesting to see who else joins that lineup and will be hearing from harris in the coming week, ali.

>> julia, a lot of big names on that list and a lot of -- thank you for joining us. we go now to nbc news -- -- on the road in bozeman, montana. trump carrying his own -- j.d. vance is back in the spotlight. notably batting cleanup on the answer that trump gave about possibly banning the abortion bill, abortion pill. that can possibly p -- be -- that can't possibly be where they want the focus to be. >> reporter: that is right. ali . he touted a $28 million fundraising hall for the past few days. -- on saturday, one in wyoming and another in aspen, colorado. he also expressed a willingness to participate in three upcoming debates with vice president kamala harris. the first on september 4th, hosted by fox news in harrisburg, pennsylvania.

that's a town we seen him visit multiple times this cycle. the next, on september 10th, hosted by abc news in philadelphia, that one is so far the only one that we know that vice president kamala harris has committed to and the third on september 25th, hosted by our very own nbc news in grand rapids, michigan, which is part of kent county, a swing area that will be watching closely ahead of november. now overall, the campaign strategy for the last few weeks has been to criticize harris. she hasn't been answering media questions, meanwhile, ohio senator j.d. vance has been blanketing the airways this sunday, but when he was pressed this morning about the proposed abortion initiative in order, he was light on the details and really just outlined his positioning on abortion overall, largely deferring to former president donald trump. here's more from that interview. >> what i believe, and i'm running to be the vice president of the united states,

it is that the american people have to make this decision, and president trump has said explicitly that they are going to make this decision on a state-by-state level. i will let donald trump offer his position and i will talk about them. a lot of the reasons that women choose to terminate a pregnancy is a polino have any other choice. want to get the more options to choose to have that baby to make it easier to raise that baby. >> reporter: and ali, as for former president donald trump, whatever he has been pressed on abortion recently, he has largely stuck to the republican messaging as of late, which is to say that since roe v. wade has been overturned, he believes that this should be a states rights issue and left to a case-by-case basis . ali? >> and and jillian, we will see that abc debate in september. the rest of them still sort of up in the air and of course nbc is not commenting on the former president tweets to this effect and jillian frankel, thank you for bringing me the latest. from one of my favorite live shot positions of the country, by the way. it is beautiful there. let's go now to staff writer for the washington post,

merrill, both campaigns are on the road this week. -- with a single rally. is this how you would expect the next few months to go? >> i think we have learned from this election. it's really hard to accept anything. in a month where we didn't get to see them debate as women for the last debate, anything can happen. we will see if trump remains in mar-a-lago with the red strongholds, but vance is very much following after harris. especially spending time in the battleground states. last weekend, coming up, he will be in michigan. >> best if only place that make sense for him, given the fact that he's one of the senators from ohio, but the dnc is around the corner, and the convention always provides a bounce for the party in the campaign.

trump's already complaining about his rise in the polls. should we expect him to do something to counter protests? >> he said he will not be out as much after the convention. it seems to be an effort to avoid taking the message from democrats, which is unhelpful because, you know, obviously, when the rnc was going on, they talked about unity, republicans had this advantage at that moment dominating the airways. we can see the same for democrats that week. >> you wrote about the dynamics of abortion in 2024. trump treading carefully, you write that harris was leaning into it. the reality is this an x factor and a ton of swing states, arizona, nevada, even florida. when you hear him downplay the role that it can have, what does that tell you about the campaign and how republicans are broadly seeing this issue? >> republicans had trouble

messaging on this. we saw it at the convention when there was a difference in how people wanted the republican party to strengthen their platform. they stripped the long-standing language demanding an abortion ban to further appeal to politicians, the political whims of the issue. but in terms of democrats, on the trail, tim walz talks about his own experience with the idf and they both learn that republicans will ban abortion if they are back in the -- >> it's not just a conversation about abortion, it's a conversation about ivf, as well. as i this issue, bolster harris, who's already been a strong message or in the minds of democrats in this issue. >> is a unique messenger. he is a man talking about a woman's issue, but he has his own personal experience, but he -- and talks about when his

daughter was born, he named her hope after the feeling that he had having his child and i think it's interesting to see voters respond to that. at events recently, i have seen the audience feel very engaged with that. he brought up the threat that republicans could take away abortion rights at this one rally last week, and i saw a woman shout back that they can't take that away from us. >> we have seen harris start to do a little more q&a with her traveling press corps. she said in one of those question-and-answer sessions that she wants to get a more formal sitdown schedule by the end of the month. it's not like she's been sitting around doing nothing. they are in a major rollout after an insane road to getting here. but where does a formal interview fit into this major rollout plan, do you think? >> harris said she would do an interview in this upcoming month. we don't know when that will be.

i think she wants to focus her message at this moment with the dnc coming up on her policy and that is something that a lot of voters i talked with don't really know much about from her. before she was announced -- battleground areas. they wanted to hear about her positions going back from 2020. i was obviously very different race that she was running in the democratic primary. so going into this general election, we will hear more from her. we already saw a little bit of this when she talked about no tax on tips and a policy that trump had suggested. she talked about immigration and willing to create a pathway for citizenship. >> meryl kornfield, thank you for joining us and thank you for taking us on our next segment. tax talk, what's behind both campaigns agreeing on one big proposal that could help millions of people. we are back in 90 seconds.

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assassination of hamas leader into ran. -- to ron. matt, israel is bracing from a potential strike and cease-fire talks are still ongoing. give us the latest from both of those fronts. >> reporter: yeah, ali. we were talking about this. it's not just israel that's bracing. it's the entire region that's waiting to see what hezbollah and iran does, based in lebanon, what they do next. now, on tuesday, it will have been two weeks since we saw those twin assassinations that set off the speculation that i ran would be responding and that has blow would be responding. i call it speculation but it's not. both sides had said that they will retaliate. the question is how will they do so. will it resemble what happened in april when it was mostly kind of like a symbolic attack that the israelis were easily parrying and that they have their own response to that response, it really didn't do much damage either. this situation looks like it could be much much more severe.

in the meantime, all eyes are looking at thursday. that is when they are supposedly going to be yet another meeting of diplomats trying to hash out the negotiation deal to bring some measure of peace to the gaza strip and perhaps release the rest of those is really hostages that are still being held in gaza. that deal has alluded these negotiators for the past several months ever since november. the last time, there was a successful deal, that only last a week and it freed about half of the remaining hostages that are thought to still be held in the gaza strip but this situation, it looks as though the people who are intermediate those diplomats, who are negotiating and are talking about the egyptians, the qatari's, and the -- telling them that they really need to come to the table and finalize the steel and get it over the blind. so far, that has been so elusive for all of these groups

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>> next week and it will be focused on the economy and what we need to do to bring down costs and also strengthen the economy. >> that was vice president kamala harris last night, teasing ahead to the release of her economic policy plan in the coming days. it's a top issue that polls show democrats have ground to make up on, as voters say they tend to trust trump and republicans more on the issue. republicans, for their part, have been keen to point dire costs and cost inflation to bolster their position on the economy. joining me now, democratic huntsmen from michigan dan -- congressman, first, happy birthday. my gift to you is that i'm going to pepper you with questions. >> all right, thank you so much. >> congressman, as harris builds her policy plan, she's effectively doing this while flying the plane. it's going to be critical. what do you expect or hope to be included when she rolled out her policy proposals this week? >> i expect that it would

center around families, particularly around working families, the ways that they have position policies for a long time. we don't have to guess what the public and policies were was only a few years ago when he was writing the tax code with republicans and pond -- congress that prioritize the wealthiest americans. the tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. obviously, we take a different approach. what i expect to see from her is a focus on making sure the working families in particular have the resources to deviate in order to meet their needs and their kids to college and be able to have the kind of economic security that an economy of the size ought to provide. not just those at the top. >> you bring up the trump era tax cuts, which are expiring next year. that law/the -- included some child tax credits. what if any parts of that

should harris moved to keep and i imagine that there will be a focus in her economic plan on items like the care economy, given the focus that was the first two years in the ministration? >> so the things that i would like to see is that focus on family. the child tax credit, probably the best vote i made in 12 years in congress, half of american children's were lifted out of pollen re--- poverty. i'm hoping to see that. what we really need to do is make sure we have a tax code that's fair. in 2017, we saw their priorities. they gave away millions and billions to the wealthiest. it's -- is a proposal that does not allow billionaires to pay lower tax rates than schoolteachers and firefighters. i expect to see that. but i won't be surprised if it looks a lot like what has been the democratic priorities for some time. focusing on families, the child tax credit, things of that

nature. >> one of the things she plays yesterday was to raise the minimum wage and also eliminate taxes on tips for services and hospitality workers. would of course need -- but trump immediately pounced, attacking harris, saying that the no tax on tips was actually his idea. he has been talking about that in the weeks prior to her announcement yesterday, but is is a rare moment were democrats and republicans actually agree on an economic idea. >> it would be great if we did, but what we have seen in the past is there's a big difference between what donald trump says at a rally and what he actually -- going back to 2017, we don't have to guess what he would do with the tax code. we saw what he did when he had the opportunity to make those changes. he didn't help tip workers. he held billionaires. words are cheap. actions speak

louder than words, and when it comes to donald trump, the two have very little to do with one another. they will say one thing on any given day, but when push comes to shove, it is the billionaires and he goes to work for. >> when you're talking actions, democrats were busy and i know this because i was chasing you and other members around the halls of congress for the first two years as you are trying to pass build back better, the question was always how do democrats get the credit for that in the minds of voters. here's what president biden said. >> i know all the things will take a long time to work their way through so now people are realizing oh, that highway, oh, the -- we didn't put up a sign thing joe did it. >> sort of a joe did it sign is democratic messaging stronger on this, and do democratic voters give democrats the credit here? >> yes. they are beginning to. i think part of this challenge is that the policies that we enact do take some time for them to at the kitchen table. but for any senior out there who now has to pay $35 a month

out of pocket to have lifesaving insulin or for people who are -- driving on better roads or, more portly, or seeing jobs come back because of the investment in manufacturing, we have to remind people that those things are not falling out of the sky. those moments are occurring because democrats and democrats alone, quite frankly, prioritize those policies with the inflation reduction act, the bill back but her agenda. >> congressman, i want to get you on something michigan specifically in a short amount of time that we have left, but of course, we see the uncommitted movement be a strong force in michigan during the primary. what is your concern about it going forward into movember, especially after vice president harris just met with some of the leaders of that movement last week. >> the fact that vice president harris is willing to sit down

with the folks that represent that movement is a big step in the right direction because what she knows is that everybody's voices matters. so we listen to them. and we just make it clear that there is a choice, and it's not a choice between joe biden and another democratic candidate. it's a choice between kamala harris, and what she brings, and donald trump, and what we know about this sort of angry agenda that he will bring to the country and i think, in that case, those uncommitted voters will become committed pretty quick. >> congressman dan kildee, thank you for joining us. next time you come on, i'm going to have you play those drums and bongos. need to see what that's about. >> thank you. >> see you back on the hill next month. >> you bet. coming up, the kamala harris phenomenon. was behind her meteor campaign and a fresh democratic base . the rise of the third option. o y condition. guaranteed at verizon. and get the new galaxy s24 on us. only on verizon. everywhere but the seat. the seat is leather. alan, we get it. you love your bike. we do, too. that's why we're america's number-one motorcycle insurer. but do you have to wedge it into everything? what? i don't do that.

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america cannot survive for four more years of this bumbling communist lunatic. we cannot let her win this election. it's not a question of me. we can't let her win this election. >> unlike donald trump, i will always, i promise you, put the middle class and working families first. >> since becoming a presidential candidate, she has refused to do a single interview. you know why? because she is dumb. >> someone who suggests we should terminate the constitution of the united states should never again stand

behind the seal of president of the united states >> campaign 2024 in full swing as donald trump struggles to sharpen his attacks against vice president kamala harris after a week of policy and personality contrast on the campaign trail. joining me now, don calloway, democratic strategist and founder of the national voter protection action fund and susan, -- political analyst. guys, we are getting to the contrast of those two clips in just a moment but broadly, don, some voters are still voting -- learning about the vice president, though she appears to have -- kamala harris phenomenon -- >> independent, black owned -- obviously, engaging when -- but it was energize a certain way

when -- because we are ultimately talking about black folks, churches, all types of different interest are ready to go and engage and frankly, not just black folks, but democratic interest across the board have been invigorated, but the point is that there is this independent infrastructure, external to the democratic national committee that was ready to engage and was super invigorated. all of that is part of what is behind us, but also, i mean, just at the end of the day, she's a dynamic candidate. it's a link to be excited about. we are doing something of a death march being very, very kind of, there was trepidation around whether or not joe biden could make it after the first debate all that's out the window.

we have a completely different race now and frankly, i think that the 90 day sprint is better for vice president harris because you can keep people's attention for about 90 days. that's about where you can keep people's engagement and enthusiasm through the end. >> i want to ask you about something you brought up there. you talk about the structure of black voters and we also saw the power that behind president biden when he was then candidate biden. there were questions about whether that would so seamlessly follow harris, but then you see things like black women on zoom, black men on zoom, and the dollars that those fundraisers generated. was that fear misplaced, don? >> it wasn't misplaced, but it was yet untested. now, as soon as we got the opportunity, we showed what it was. i mean, listen. the vice president is historically somebody who is not public, who is not heard from or seen and it's someone whose job is to support the agenda of the president. when we say we didn't know

kamala harris we didn't see much of her, that because she was good at doing her job, being a substantive supporter of the president's agenda and not attending to outshine her -- him, and that something i expect tim walz to be truly good at over the next four years. but if we didn't know her, but because she was really good at doing her best to, i had to use the work, but shrink behind the president, because you are not to outshine the president. remember, it's very important, and sarah palin learned this hallway -- the hard way. we are supposed to get to know the president. we are not supposed to get to know the vice president but in these last few weeks, she has shown it tremendously. >> you are exactly right. i wrote about that in my book, people who are somehow disappointed in the role that she wasn't playing the first two years of the administration. some of them felt that that was unfair in misplaced, but because she was historic, it didn't mean that she should just not do the job of vice president, which is to be a quiet bolster to the president. susan, the early contrast that we have seen at this point in the race seems pretty clear. harris-walz saying we are not going back versus trump's make america great again slogan, which is innately backwards looking. in that early frame, which you think appeals more to voters?

>> well, to donald trump's base voters, it doesn't matter. whatever he says, but make america great, it works with them. it has for the past few years. and when it comes to hairs, i think she brings so much to the table as far as energy and, to don's point, not beating biden. her messaging is starting to really come together. for those folks who say she hasn't done interviews, she hasn't done that. imagine being at this level of a campaign within less than three weeks. she still has a convention speech to give. it is unheard of to do what this campaign has done. they have built on a strong infrastructure. as don has said, the kind of reignited or re-motivated existing infrastructure and when you look at the comparison, i mean first of all, you have a candidate and the vice president who can finish a complete sentence. there is that difference. but more importantly, she really shows where she wants to go and donald trump is only

running, and this is the important part, no matter what he says, he is only running to stay out of jail. it's only about him. >> you know, susan, when you make the point initially about harris is not being biden, it immediately makes me think of the idea of double haters. we heard a lot about that at the outset of this election cycle, that they were voters who didn't want either trump or president biden. does harris solve the problem, or, as a great political strategists -- strategist taylor swift say are haters just going to hate hate hate? >> that was part of the double haters, yes, they hated donald trump, and yes, they hated joe biden, but now all those joe biden double haters are moving to harris and even some republicans are left-leaning -- right-leaning independents , they are really looking at her like okay, i can vote for her. even if i don't like her policies, where they had

trouble looking at joe biden and saying i just can't do it. i think you are seeing more motivation there. >> don, quickly, look into your crystal ball and tell me what you anticipate that september 10th debate to look like between harris and trump? >> it will be really bad. it will be embarrassing for donald trump, and let's be clear about something, donald trump has not had to make a substantive case the last 10 years since he has dominated republican party politics and the problem here is when you train and campaign staff, no staff, there's no response staff, there's no rapid response, they don't know how to pivot, there's no discipline the messaging, he's trained legions of people up and down ballots we don't know how to support him in a debate. republican staff, as well as he around the country have been trained in his methods and there's no substance there such that they know how to deal with an extraordinary capable and substantive arguer, a professional debater and lawyer

in kamala harris. i expect it will be really bad and she will send it -- he will say things like she is dumb and call names. it's a bully getting punched in the mouth. i'm really excited to see that. >> susan, do you agree? >> i do agree, and debate is not a rift session, as he is used to commanding. he's going to have to answer questions in a certain time and i don't think she will let him get away with anything and don is right. it's going to be just a punch in the nose that he probably should have gotten in 2017, but he will be a little bloodied as a result. >> don calloway, susan del percio, sue -- two of my favorites. thank you for spending your sunday with us. >> thank you. >> coming up. what to make of rfk's disappearing act on the campaign trail. we have more news, coming up.

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he is on some ballots and still in the race, but one presidential candidate has been curiously absent from the campaign trail and he's slipping in the polls . with the election countdown ticking, -- noting his campaigns last public event was in freeport, maine, on july 9. that's more than one month ago. his public poll numbers once hovering around on it -- nine or 10%, are now half that. joining me now, the reporter on the story, nbc news 2024 campaign and bend catherine kerensky. you write in the piece when kennedy has been in the -- it's bad for a reason. for instance, -- though he says he has no memory of that. he also revealed his decision to pick up a dead bear cub on -- and then stage a bicycle accident with it in central park these are not the kinds of things that most campaigns would allow to continue as the

narrative, but they don't seem to be doing much to change it. what's going on here? >> yeah, ali. it's important to sort of take everyone back to the timeline following the june 27th debate. rfk jr. did not qualify for that debate stage with president biden and former president trump. he was in the headlines for missing that deadline. just a few weeks later, the vanity fair article detailing a lot of details about his drug addiction, about his -- the sexual assault allegation, like you said, eliza cooney, we later learned that a few weeks later, he sent her text messages, saying he doesn't remember the incident and a few weeks later, the bear incident. he got ahead of the new yorkers article by posting -- falcon hunting with his friends in upstate new york, he saw a woman hit this bear, the bear was killed. he put in the back of his truck

with plans to skin it and when his dinner went too long, he needs to catch a flight and decided to stash in central park. not something that a traditional campaign would want as their headlines, -- there was also rumors that he had eaten a dog, feeding his dog, saying that he was in the doghouse. a lot of the bazaar headlines coming on the kennedy campaign as we look ahead to the rally. >> sometimes the headlines just seem like a mad libs gone wrong, but it also speaks to the political bottom line, which is if his campaign is flailing or if it's disappearing, what impact does that leave him with in the 2024 contest? >> so i think -- who is he going to take votes away from, one of our polls from april since it was likely former president trump, obviously president biden got out of the race, now vice president kamala harris. rfk jr. has not held an event

since kamala harris has joined the race, not an independent campaign event, his press availability has been very limited since his dropout. he has hosted a dropout -- since his family home -- they didn't really address how he levels up with harris but you know, new polling showing that his single-digit margins about nine, 10% is now at about five. a few months ago in april, he was taking away from former president trump, but it will be interesting to see how he levels up with now vice president harris in the race. >> a lot of things changing in if he doesn't get out there, i don't know where this campaign goes. katherine koretski, you will keep it us updated on that. i know. >> meanwhile, the battle is on for the union vote and that harris-walz ticket making efforts to shored up. they spoke to members of the united nation -- united auto workers in michigan. >> so deeply honored, as a lifelong supporter of union

labor, for tim and i to have the endorsement of the uaw. >> joining right now, sarah nelson, international president of flight attendants. she represents -- at 19 different airlines. sarah, that's me, your organization was among those who voted to endorse harris in this election. talk about why? >> first of all, we are at 55,020 airlines and i give credit to the biden harris -- and organizing an hour union, too. so we endorsed kamala harris and tim walz even before she had picked him because she's been there at the president's side, setting standards for flight attendants that after a 20 year hiatus after an incredible strike, we were able

to get this administration to make it clear that there is incredible strike threat so we can get agreements that are between 20 and 35% improvement that america, alaska airlines, where we can get, start to get paid, rewarding pay, so much the country is so concerned the flight attendants have been doing work without getting paid and so we are pushing forward on these agreements because of that backing from the administration, making it possible for us to have collective bargaining under the railway labor act where there is no expiration date, or we have to make that fair to get this contract on. >> you talk, about the biden and this -- biden has called himself the most prounion president ever. does she have trust to build with these voters being new to the ticket, new to the top of the ticket? >> i am super excited to listen to kamala harris now.

i think that she is her authentic self on the campaign trail and i think that that is because workers have been fighting and winning and we have been showing the country and to -- unchecked inequality with the corporate elite taking more and more to wall street and controlling our politics, too. we have been standing up for good jobs, standing up to push forward on what it means to be an american worker and she is owning that. she is signing off on all of her rallies when we fight and win but that is a sleeper of these -- labor slogan. to push even further, to make this a country that's going to deliver on the promise that it's for the people and not for the corporations. >> sara, there is a battle raging for union votes, and they don't cut cleanly along party lines. we saw teamsters president sean o'ryan -- what was your reaction to his appearance and what would you tell your own members who not feel the way

that you were a larger organization feels about the harris-walz ticket? >> for small, sean o'brien give a great labor speech, but what that shows is that leave -- unions are the most popular thing in the country now and so trump and vance are trying to pander to that. they are absolutely against unions in all of their actions, all of trump's actions when he was in office, we have his record now. he took away federal workers' rights to collectively bargain. he try to put in place schedule f to get rid of a civil service and his long-standing union representatives to go from a ministration cool -- administration to a ministration to make sure we have social security, medicare, all these things. it's a big line of baloney that they are trying to say they are for working people and i would say we saw this during the

government shutdown, 35 days. trump try to divide us with racist prayer mongering about the southern border when really, what that was about was trying to break government to make good on a fifty-year attempt to try to privatize everything, stuff it in the hands of wall street and get rid of everything else that we count on as americans and we push back and -- one against him. >> sara nelson, thank you for spending part of your sunday with us. >> thank you. thank you, ali. coming up, heartbreak for team usa in the city of love. the decision that cost an american gymnast a metal -- medal . plus -- that's coming up next. stay with us. us. and keeps them white every day just by brushing your teeth. christine i never thought that whitening my teeth could be so easy. i just put the gel on the brush, the toothpaste on it, brush and i can see my white teeth. announcer simply add smileactives to any toothpaste, and our patented polyclean technology activates into a powerful micro foam that penetrates into the enamel surface to safely lift and remove stains. robert you need a simple way

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in paris with more on the final event of the game, women's basketball. staff, he was a nailbiter, but the u.s. came out on top by a single point, right? >> yes, -- just a point -- -- basically and then they got to this final game in paris. with a crowd, and local crowd, cheering for the home team. at times, so ruckus, you could hear the person speaking to you. and that unnerved them. they had trouble shooting and it came down to the last seconds. lots of free throws back and forth, and france was down by three points and take a look at how it all ended.

>> no time-outs here. joe hana is up ahead. it's william, that was a two, they make it in! a two ball, and the united states is going to claim gold for the eighth consecutive olympics! what a finish! williams with her foot on the line! >> reporter: so when you look at that, people in the crowd thought she had tied the game with a three-pointer and they went insane, but, in fact, she hadn't, she was over the three- point line, it was two points, and the u.s. just eked out that gold medal by making the record eight consecutive gold medals in a row, ali. >> yeah. i candidly thought that they had tied it up in that moment, too. i was watching for my desk sort of writing my nails and watching how the had shaken out. stephanie, thank you for this coverage, all your coverage, we will is love having you. you.