♪♪ ♪♪ it is good to be back with you on this second hour of "chris jansing reports." at this hour, tech glitches, insults and hosts barely getting a word in for more than two hours. the rocky rollout and donald trump's talk with elon musk. how kamala harris' team is seizing on his responses. >> plus the fbi opens a high-stakes probe months before election day. what we are now learning about hacking attempts on both the trump and biden-harris campaigns. and restraint or retaliation? iran's new message as the u.s.

and its allies try to prevent a strike on israel with the cia director heading to the region. is there anything that can stop the conflict? and joe biden races the clock to cement his health care legacy. his now announcement today for his cancer moon shot. our msnbc reporters are following all of the latest developments and we begin with nbc's dasha burns on the much talked about discussion between donald trump and elon musk. so the trump campaign said this would be the interview of the century. what did we actually hear? >> well, chris, it sounded a lot like some of former president trump's rallies. they typically run about 90 minutes though this was over two hours with elon musk who didn't get too much of a word in there. it was a lot of the same talking points going after president biden, again, falsely claiming that harris staged a coup against president biden and attacking harris on her record and also getting a little bit

personal as we've seen him do recently. take a listen. >> kamala wouldn't have this conversation. she can't because she's not -- she's not a smart person, by the way. she can't have this conversation, and biden, we don't even have to talk about it. i mean, he couldn't have this conversation. he would have given up in the first half of a question. he would have walked out. >> the harris campaign, chris, is hitting back putting out a statement saying that trump's entire campaign is in service of people like elon musk and himself, self-obsessed rich guys who will sell out the middle class and who cannot run a livestream in the year 2024. the latter part referring to quite a significant delay in the start of this conversation, musk claiming there was a hack, but really harkening back to, if you might remember, earlier this year when another presidential candidate in the primary, governor ron desantis rolled out his campaign on twitter space

wes elon musk and did not go so well, chris. >> yeah. that seems like a decade ago. dasha burns, thank you so much. the fbi is now investigating allegations of a payer of hacks, one against the trump campaign that we first told you about yesterday and now another on the former biden-harris campaign and nbc's dan delucia is on the campaign. what can you tell us? >> we are in the early stages, chris and all we know at the moment is there was a hack of the trump campaign and the trump campaign believes iran was behind it. fbi is not confirming who might have been behind that hack and it's also not clear how cooperative the trump campaign is with the fbi investigation and at the same time there appears to have been an attempted hack on the biden -- former biden-harris campaign organization, and we don't know

how serious that was, but what is interesting is this is all an echo of 2016 when there was a russian hack that stole emails from the hillary clinton democratic party campaign organizations, but pass them on to wikileaks which is published them and at that time trump welcomed those leaks and encouraged them at the time. this time his campaign is warning news organizations not to touch any leaked documents that are circulating. at the moment, nothing's been published so this attempted hack and leak hasn't worked, but we'll just have to wait and hear what the fbi finds out. dan deluce, thank you so much. >> now to tensions in the middle east and iran is ignoring international pressure to stand down on plans to retaliate against israel. matt bradley is reporting from beirut. three senior iranian officials told reuters only one thing can stop this attack, a ceasefire in

gaza. so bring us up to speed on those negotiations. >> chris, that reuters report, there's kind of a glass half full way of looking at it the and the optimistic way of looking at this would say that there is a way out of this, that the iranians could step away trt brink if this negotiated deal goes through and the more pessimistic or realistic way to look at it is these negotiations are unlikely to work and they've been going on since november and they've not succeeded despite the enormous amount of diplomatic energy that the u.s. and other intermediaries have poured into this. hamas has said that they'll not be joining these ney gosch yagzs, and we don't know where they'll be taking place, they will happen in doha or the capital of qatar and there's pessimism. as this continues the u.s. is sending top-level diplomats.

amos hockstein is headed to beirut to bring the parties together to continue the negotiations wherever they may be while at the same time trying to get the both sides, iranians and hezbollah, an iranian-backed group in lebanon not to retaliate against twin assassinations that happened two weeks ago. two assassinations in as many days. one of them here in beirut and the other in the capital of tehran. this is a situation that is very tense and there's a reason why so much diplomatic energy has been thrown on this, and it looks as though this still might be a major problem, if this doesn't succeed and the iranians have pledged they will continue and pledge they will retaliate and so has hezbollah and that could take the region into a region-wide war. >> matt bradley, thank you for that update. president biden is traveling

to new orleans to promote the cancer moonshot which aims to end cancer as we know it. white house correspondent aaron gillcrest joins us. what do we know about what's going to happen there today? >> chris, president biden is on his way here to new orleans right now, and when he gets here he's going to be able to see a new piece of equipment that's in development. i'll explain that in just a second. as you said, this is a part of the cancer moonshot program that's designed to to develop detection and treatment abilities faster than what had been possible prior to 2016 when this initiative launched when he was vice president biden. today we know the president is going to announce $150 million in awards for development of technology, specifically to make more successful outcomes as it relates to tumor removal. more specifically, tulane university where we are today is going to receive about $23 million for a piece of equipment that they've been working on here. one of the big problems with

treating and removing tumors is the question of did we get it all? that's something you'll hear if you've ever had to deal with someone who has had tumors removed and that's a big question. this will be able to image a tumor that's been removed and answer that question more quickly. we are told by the university typically it could take days or weeks to get an answer and this technology will allow it ten minutes during a surgery so a doctor can go back in and remove any of the tumor that remains. a huge step forward in the effort to battle cancer in this country. two years ago president biden sort of reignited the moonshot program and the new goal then was to reduce the cancer death rate by half by 2047 and today we'll hear about the president talk about the funding that's been infused into this effort and what he sees in the possible near and long term. chris, this obviously, is a cause that's near to the

president's heart. his son beau died in 2015 from brain cancer and from that time to this time the president has said that this is something that he believes we have the ability to tackle and to beat and you'll hear him talk about that more this afternoon, chris. >> i think fair to say virtually no american whose lives have not been touched in one way or another by someone they know having cancer. thank you so much for that i aaron. >> in 90 seconds allies warning donald trump to get back on message. new reporting on how they're trying to convince him to stop with the personal attacks and move past crowd size.

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live claritin clear. here's a question. how do you convince donald trump that he's wrong? nbc news has learned that close allies of the former president are trying to do just that by ramping up the pressure on him to abandon personal attacks he's been using against kamala harris. a senior member of the trump campaign tells us that trump's staff is working to notch what it considers incremental wins over time and persuading him to shift his message and quieting the racial identity by refusing to give the comments air and showing him the bad press that results, and it's not just happening behind the scenes. >> this is going to be a race and you've got to make this race until on personalities. stop questioning the size of her crowds and start questioning her position when it comes to what

did she do as attorney general. you have a short time to do it so don't sit back. get out there and start make pg the case. >> let's bring in jim messina who managed barack obama's 2020 election campaign. david jolly is msnbc political analyst and here in studio, julie rabeinsky, co-founder of the non-profit organization lift our voices. david, we know donald trump hates to lose maybe even more than most people, so does he think he's not hurting his cause, that he knows best? what's happening here? >> chris, the vanities of donald trump have always been something that raises eyebrows and he can certainly repulse. i genuinely think the last three weeks have been one of the worst chapter of a presidential campaign in modern political history. it's that bad and it's because of the candidate. they could have done more to

with vice president harris and the ads about to drop making her soft on crime, hitting her on immigration or as a prosecutor and in some ways they missed that opportunity and the candidate himself seems incapable of prosecuting any case. right now vice president harris has won the right direction-wrong direction conversation with voters and donald trump needs to make this race about a hard contrast of ideology, but he's really incapable of doing that as we saw at the rnc convention and at his speeches since. he is just ram belling and off message and unable to execute the case. donald trump is in trouble. he's in a whole lot of trouble with this campaign. >> i don't know, julie. some of this stuff worked, right? in 2016, calling people names. i was out with jeb bush and he called him low-energy jeb and all of the things that got under people's skins and now he's called kamala harris names, he's called her dumb ask crazy liberal and he's also commenting

on her lookis and want to play a bit of that elon musk conversation last night. >> she's terrible. he's getting a free ride. i saw a picture of her on "time" magazine today she looks like the most beautiful actress to ever live. it was a drawing and she looked very much like a great first lady, melania. >> yeah. >> she didn't look like camila, that's right, but of course, she's a beautiful woman, so we'll leave it at that. >> i remember the day that joe biden stepped down and through threw her endorsement to her and several analysts said she has to define herself before donald trump does, how is he defining here?analysts said she has to d herself before donald trump does, how is he defining here? this is the same kind of misogyny you talked about before, she's dumb, terrible, but she's hot, so i guess she's going to get a free ride because

she's hot, right? because women who are hot in his terms get a free ride. she's a former prosecutor, a and you may not think that her pol serious the right policies and yet reducing her down to her looks and saying she's dumb. she's not so smart, but because she's a good-looking woman, kind of like my wife melania she'll get a free ride from the media. this is someone who was effectively nurtured in the 1980s new york post mentality where this kind of stuff existed and this kind of stuff is okay. he's 70-something years old and he doesn't get that this is not how it is anymore and the more he talks the more women especially women and the men who care about women get incredibly offended and say what you say about kamala, he doesn't address her by her right name, completely con descending because he doesn't respect

anybody who is a woman. he's never respecteded a woman. his treatment of woman his been horrible. this is the man who sent out his second wife to talk about how great the sex was with him. and the more people hear, and it's awful and he's defining himself more than he's defining her, actually. >> jim, i wonder if you see a difference in the way that other candidates whether in primaries or clinton or biden in the general election handled trump and his attacks. are they different from what harris and team are approaching it. she's been pretty subdued and doesn't play into it. the biden stuff usually is the end of a more substantive line in a speech or something on social media. what do you think is their strategy against donald trump which frankly has foiled a lot of opponents in the past? >> i think it's really smart, chris.

for ten years the problem for democrats of donald trump has been he says all these crazy things every day and we can chase all of it and it's super fun and you can raise a lot of money to do it, but it doesn't help move votes and the harris campaign has been incredibly disciplined not to chase every one of these comments and just stay on their message and stay with the message of hope. ride this momentum they have and donald trump, we're 83 days before the election and we're under four weeks before voters in the first day of north carolina start voting and donald trump hasn't been in a battleground state for nine days and the reason to david's point is because he doesn't have a message and he has a campaign that's falling apart and the harris campaign is letting him sink while they stay focused on building their campaign. >> so these outside allies, jim, that we talked about in our nbc reporting, they do seem to have a strategy. to summarize, they want to put joe biden's record on her. they want to talk about

immigration and the economy areas where polls show trump has been strong. isn't it the biggest threat to hairis that trump somehow gets onboard with that strategy? >> yes and no. on one hand the problem with the trump campaign is they have a candidate that doesn't understand message and doesn't care what the rest of the campaign or the outside group is doing. so he his this disnance that voters really understand. they look at him and say this is donald trump. we've seen him for a decade, we just don't believe him him. that's the fundamental problem. the swing voters don't believe him anymore and the most important number that i look at every day is the change candidate in this election is now kamala harris and the reason is because people are just sick and tired of donald trump. he's kind of frozen at 46 in all of these states and he can't move above it because he has nothing new to say to these voters. >> well, that leads to an interesting question for me, david. trump is obviously getting

external help and the pro-trump super pac is launching a $100 million blitz ahead of labour day and they'll run commercials on sunbelt states over the next three weeks and they'll paint her, kamala harris as soft on crime, a radical, too dangerous for the white house. do you think advertising and appointed message can overcome perhaps the lack of one from the candidate? >> it's the only tool they have and outside groups can be far more disciplined than the inside candidate-led campaign. you will see what we otherwise would have expected from the donald trump campaign, hard hits on immigration and crime, regardless of where the facts are. to jim's point, there is a ceiling for donald trump. he can't gather new voters and all he can do is take voters and soften the harris support and the negative partisanship technique here, and i think on

immigration, here is a fascinating thing, chris. kamala harris in the speech she gave in atlanta said i would sign the bipartisan immigration enforcement bill and donald trump wouldn't. so even now if immigration is the issue, it can't just be on the facts. they're going to have hit her really personally and hard. she walked away from the job. she's weak and they're going to go after her personally to try to soften her numbers. look, it's a hard case now to prosecute against vice president harris. the three missed weeks of the trump campaign will be hard to make up for? she's got something reasonably big coming up, a huge audience for her speech thursday night at the dnc. this is next week, obviously, something they're crafting now. they have biden in mind. this will be a very different kind of speech. how does she walk that line? her success has been at least in pretty large part hope, making people feel better about what

america can be and what the future can bring. does she prosecute donald trump at the same time? >> well, she's got to prosecute donald trump, that's job number one because she's not running in a vacuum. >> for that speech? >> for that speech. biden has a good record. people were upset with joe biden because of his age, but people were not happy for joe biden's policies. she has to take ownership part policies and people agree and she has to chart her own course where people may not agree. she -- that was a great point that jim made. she represents change, but she is the sitting vice president. that is a very difficult thing for her to navigate, but it's not that difficult when you think about the fact that she's running against somebody who is basically doing a re-run. it's not like donald trump is a breath of fresh air. that's why trump was so appealing to people in 2016. in 2020 he flamed out, and i think he'll flame out in 2024

because everyone has seen the schtick. there's nothing new. this is an old guy who has been repeating the same thing for a decade over and over again and in a way someone who is a sitting incumbent represent change. that's a pretty interesting thing that trump has been able to accomplish. >> this is never boring. jim mess ina congressman david jolly and julie rabeinsky, thank you so much. for more on the 2024 race, you have to check out the how to win 2024 newsletter right your inbox. so there it is, sign up. coming up, he's been filling cameos and all over social media and even the subject of an snl skit, but now george santos says all of that publicity could taint his trial next month. his latest court battle. plus the olympics may be over, but the drama certainly isn't. the new ruling involving jordan chiles' bronze medal next.

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accused of spending campaign money on everything from per ferragamo shoes to botox. george santos stares down a september trial for fraud. santos has kept anything but a low profile going on talk shows, posting his hot takes on social

media and even making a killing on cameo. his lawyers tried to convince a judge all of that publicity means extra steps need to be taken to screen yourors, but that argument fell on deaf ears. antonio hilton is live. what's the latest there, antonio. >> hi, chris. well, the judge did give the santos team one thing and that is that they are going partially protect the identities of the jurors. so that means they'll be known to the parties involved and to the press, but there will be, to some extent their identities will be hidden. the piece that was rejected as you mentioned they wanted to have all of the prospective jurors go through this expensive questionnaire process and their beliefs about george santos and political leanings and that was all in an argument to say he is essentially at risk because of how much negative publicity he's gotten and that argument was not in part because the government

made the argument that he sat for the interviews and he recorded himself on cameo and he's continued to very much keep himself in the public eye. the other part of the conversation today was around witnesses. the government says they have three dozen people ready to testify, and we are talking about money fraud, money laundering and very serious charges. the judge told them they should consider streamlining the number of people they bring forward. so we'll see where that lands, but you know, chris, at one point people were talking about the potential of a plea deal, but from when we see at this horing, it really looks like they are moving toward a trial that will start with jury selection on september 9th. as we know, santos has continued to plead not guilty all throughout at this stage, chris. >> antonio hilton, thank you. keep us posted. it now looks like gymnastics superstar jordan chiles will have to give back her bronze medal from the paris games after

all. following a ruling from the court of arbitration, nbc's emily ikeda is following the story for us. there has been so much don tro controversy on this. she's such a compelling athlete. >> a lot of controversy and a lot of back and forth in the last week. >> a major setback from the court of arbitration. procedurally it doesn't re-open cases once it hands down its ruling even with the presentation of new evidence which is something usa gymnastic his done and they submitted a letter and timestamped video that showed that the coach, jordan chiles' coach not only submitted one, but actually two statements within, they say the one-minute deadline because that's what this is all about. the dispute is over when did the coach introduce that appeal, and so they're saying it happened within the deadline.

usa gymnastics releasing a statement in the announcement saying we are deeply disappointed by the notification and will continue to pursue every possible avenue and appeal process including to the swiss federal tribunal to ensure the just scoring, placement and medal for jordan. that appeal process could take month, if not years, so we'll continue to see developing news out of this. again, usa gymnastics hoping the video evidence will come into play. i think what is so aggravating and it's not that her score shouldn't be as high as it was after the coach appealed, but it is a dispute over the timing and it's a procedural issue. the completely different circumstances, but the u.s. skaters had to wait two years and got their medals in paris of all places. still to come. another storm brewing in the caribbean as fema contends with a cash crunch even before

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bracing for more aftershocks from a 4.4 magnitude earthquake that rattled buildings from l.a. to san diego yesterday. home cameras in pasadena showed shaky driveways and living rooms with wine glasses shattering off a bar cart. video also captured frightened pets including three dogs following the kids in the house and they all went under the kitchen table. watch them. there they go under the table together. nbc's steve paterson is reporting from l.a. steve, when i lived in l.a. i was one of those people dodging under my desk, actually, at the office. what do we know about damage assessment? anybody hurt in this quake? >> chris, i've been here almost ten years, there's little i hate more than the feeling of an earthquake and we are about 15 miles from the sepp center in pasadena and because of seismic waves a understand it or so close together it felt more like a jolt than a consistent shake. it felt like a semitruck hit the

bureau with a propane tank inside. a lot of people reported feeling this same feeling. the good news is that there has been a full assessment by nearly every fire department within the entire region. the good news is again, no injuries, no major structural damage and the fact that this could maybe upset a larger tectonic plate system or a fault system, very unlikely because of the shallowness of the quake and it wasn't very huge on the richter scale. still, it did do some traumatic damage to a lot of us in the region and it caused a little bit of damage at pasadena city hall, water gushing out of the building and someone was trapped in the elevator there, as well, which is just terrifying. can't imagine that and there was a school that was evacuated just out of an abundance of caution. there could be aftershocks. likely though, there won't be because every hour that you go past a big quake and nothing happens it's more likely that

nothing will happen, but still possible and there's a chance this does trigger something bigger and the seismologists say this would have happened and i want to thank my lucky stars because i don't want to experience this again. >> we are glad you're all okay and most people seem to have come through it, maybe with shattered nerves, but not much more. steve paterson, thank you. let's go to puerto rico where the national guard is activated and schools are canceled in preparation for tropical storm ernesto. the storm intensified rapidly over the atlantic in the course of just 24 hours. it could bring ten inches of rain and life-threatening floods including to parts of the caribbean still reeling after hurricane beryl. ernesto is the fifth named storm of the summer season. officials warn it could reach hurricane strength by the end of the week and while the peak of hurricane season is still ahead of us, new reporting reveals that fema is already stretched to the limit. role call reports that fema is

phasing into what they call immediate needs funding mode when they put non-life-saving activities on pause and they prioritize urgent recovery efforts. that's because the agency has already issued at least 100 disaster and emergency declarations this year. nearly as many as they authorized all of last year. fema's warning that by the end of september they could be more than $6 billion in the red. here to discuss it, former fema administrator ken fugate. good to see you again. as of august this country has weathered $25 billion in storm damage in extreme events. we are seeing hurricane season escalate. what does that mean in the weeks ahead and most pointedly for people who find themselves in need of immediate help? >> well, what fema did was to make sure they did have money for future disasters. really, when they go to the funding which we have done in the obama administration, they

had done it through the bush administration is when funds get to a certain point you stop doing permanent work from older disasters and you focus on the life-saving, but also taking care of the families and other people that are applying for assistance in the aftermath of the storm and what's key here is we're going into september and the pack of the season and october 1st is also the start of the new fiscal year for the federal government. so fema is trying to manage their funds based upon october 1st even with the continuing resolution they get new money for disasters. the biggest problem right now is all of the work from all of the other disasters including hurricane maria that hit puerto rico will have to stop until fema gets additional funds. >> so florida senators, mark on rubio and rick scott pushed for more fema funding because a more severe hurricane season was predicted and the agency is, as

i said, still facing a big deficit. is the issue that, i don't know, there's not enough awareness of the urgency, not enough awareness of the role fema makes and ask anybody who has been through the storm and i've covered enough of them and talked to enough people that have come through, but not without loss of homes and other things. i mean, are we going to have to reassess what fema needs especially in the light of climate change? >> i think the formulas that are used to build fema's budget need to be adjusted upward, and they're catastrophic disasters. looking at the large disasters and there's a lot of recovery work, that we're seeing more of those multibillion recovery operations and put on more funding on the reo curing bases

each year and we also focus on the immediate response and search andy is rescue, and helping states pay for debris and other immediate costs. the real problem is if you have a fire station that got destroyed in a storm, a fire or earthquake and you haven't started work on the fire station and that project hasn't been approved you can't restore that fire station until fema gets more money. >> that's one of the most obvious things. are we seeing more even from when you were in office of one disaster following another following in another. they haven't recovered from one thing and here comes the next. >> well, it's certainly been something we've been seeing more of as we're seeing more active hurricane seasons, but also look at wildfires. we're seeing some places where we had fires in northern california. we're seeing people have rebuilt and now we're seeing fires

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a new inflation report is out that could push the federal reserve to start lowering interest rates. nbc's business and data correspondent brian chung joins me to break it down. a lot of people have been waiting. so we have one inflation report today. another tomorrow. what's the message it's likely to send. >> the one we got this morning is the producer price index. how much does your retailer, your target or walmart have to pay their suppliers to get the stuff into their stores. those prices increase by .1% between june and july and that is below what economists have expected and they're expecting .2% and that's certainly good july. below what economists expected. they were expecting .2%. that's good news. but the question is do those retailers then pass it on to you and me. we'll get a snapshot from that from the consumer price index.

that will come tomorrow morning when we find out how much regular americans pay for the many things across the board. if that shows a lower rate of inflation, that could be good for the federal reserve which is expected to cut interest rates in september if they see a good print on that tomorrow, that gives them the green light to say all right, we can start to cut those high interest rates in the form of credit card debt and mortgage rates. >> starbucks out with the old in with the new. what's happening? >> the new coming from chipotle. starbucks deciding they didn't want to go with their ceo and hired the ceof chipotle to basically ramp up sales because at starbucks, they've been seeing a slump. people are balking at these higher prices. they don't want to pay $7 for a coffee. how can they turn the value proposition of customers while keeping the brand strong? that's going to be an open question in addition to trying

to fix their sales in china. big overseas market that chipotle doesn't have which is going to be a challenge for this new ceo. but can they really juice sales in that important economy. >> juice sales? thank you, brian. good to see you. let's go overseas. president zelenskyy says the war coming home to russia as their troops claim control of hundreds of miles of russian territory. nbc international correspondent, josh lederman is following that story. how unsettling is the ukrainian advance into russian territory for putin? >> reporter: what's even more unsettling for putin is the fact that ukraine has held on to that russian territory for a week thousand and russia has been seemingly unable to take back its own turf. i think a week ago if you would have asked most military experts

how this would play out, they would have said this would be a short lived blimp that caught the russians off guard. but that's just now how this has turned out. we just heard from president zelenskyy in his evening address saying ukraine now controls 74 settlements in the region. roughly 385 square miles. now nbc can't independently confirm the exact geography of this, but however you slice it, we are talking about thousands of russian citizens that have had to be evacuated or living under ukrainian control. they had to evacuate another district today. the big question still is what is in it for ukraine? we heard from zelenskyy today saying we don't have intention to seize another country's land, but this is self-defense. russia has used this territory to launch deadly attacks into ukraine. the pentagon is backing up that claim. they say it is fair game for

ukraine to use u.s. weapons as part of this operation. and russia has had to move its own troops that were in occupied parts of ukraine back in. so putin in addition to sending in those reinforcements, he's vowing major retaliation from this operation, but so far, they have not been able to push the ukrainians out. if anything, chris, after a week of fighting inside russia itself, the ukrainians appear to still be on the march. chris? >> josh, thank you. nearly two weeks after he was released in an historic prisoner swap with russia, we are learning new details about paul whelan's road to recovery. his attorney who worked directly with the white house to secure his release told andrea mitchell that paul is still down in san antonio where he can stay up to 19 days a t the brook army medical center, which focuses on physical and mental health.

so with all paul's courage and as i say, he's doing very well, but he has to begin to rebuild his life now. he lost his job, his home. he lost five and a half years of his ability to earn resources. and so now he starts over and starts to rebuild his life. >> you might remember when he got off the plane and met president biden. the president took off his american flag pin and placed it on him. his lawyer revealed today paul has not taken it off since. that's going to do it for us this hour. join us every weekday 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern here on msnbc and tune in when we take the show on the road next week. i'll be in chicago anchoring live from the democratic national convention. i'll see you then. but first, our coverage continues with katy tur reports, next. continues with katy tur re, next who can i talk to? can this be treated? stop typing. start talking to a specialized urologist. because it could be peyronie's disease, or pd.

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good to be with you. vp candidate tim walz is in los angeles. he's going to be talking to union workers out there. this comes as there are some questions about his military service and why he chose to get out of the national guard when he did. if he addresses those questions and there's some anticipation that he will, we're going to go right to it.