tv Andrea Mitchell Reports MSNBC August 16, 2024 9:00am-10:00am PDT
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that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. i will be back today at 1:00 p.m. eastern, 10:00 a.m. pacific. see you tomorrow night on "nbc nightly news." you can reach me on social media. you can watch clips from our show on youtube. thank you for the privilege of your time. "andrea mitchell reports" begins right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," it's all about the economy. vice president harris rolls out her plan to rebuild the middle class, taking the baton from president biden. >> today we take the next step -- thank you, joe -- forward in our fight. >> thank you, joe. thank you, joe. thank you, joe. what donald trump's newly released financial papers show about his personal wealth as he
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blames higher costs on harris and defends his attacks against her. >> i think i'm entitled to personal attacks. i don't have a lot of respect for her. inside the tragic final days before matthew perry's accidental overdose. doctors, dealers and perry's personal assistant took advantage of his addiction to line their own pockets. >> these defendants were more interested in profiting off mr. perry than caring for his well-being. eyeing ernesto. shutting down the island of bermuda. warnings for u.s. beachgoers this weekend. ♪♪ i'm ryan nobles in for andrea mitchell. kamala harris travels to north carolina this hour, to sharpen her economic message, targeting
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voters who are frustrated by the higher cost of living and inflation. there her pitch, harris will propose tax incentives for builders of new homes, cracking down on corporate landlords and a federal ban on price gouging in the food industry. she's improving on president biden's deficit on the economy. she's still behind donald trump. a poll shows that 40% of voters think trump would be better for them financially speaking versus 21% for harris. notably, 35% believe the winner will not make a difference at all. we are learning that kamala harris is in debate prep for her september 10th face-off with donald trump. president biden playing the happy warrior yesterday at his first joint remarks with harris since dropping out of the race. >> the guy we are running against, what's his name? donald dump or -- whatever. let me tell you what our project
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2025 is. beat the hell out of him. >> joining us now, yamiche alcindor, who is in north carolina, ahead of the vice president's remarks, brian chung and kimberly atkins stohr and jeff mason. what is harris proposing? is she trying to set herself apart from joe biden? >> she's trying to make sure that people understand what her policy positions are. there's been a lot of question of whether or not she had detailed in her stances. i want to walk you through some of the things. she's going to throw her support behind an expanded child tax credit. it's $6,000 for middle income and low income families with newborns during the first year of the child's life. after that, she's going to talk
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about a federal ban on corporate price gouging on groceries. this overlaps with efforts by the administration. she will talk about housing tax initiatives. she will propose providing up to $25,000 in downpayment support for first-time home buyers. she will focus on cracking down on corporate landlords. this is a story we broke yesterday. they should stop having data firms driving up rent prices. she will try to remove key tax benefits for wall street firms that invest and buy home trying to make the case she wants to help people that are starting with homeownership but wants to keep rent down for people who are renting. this is all about talking to the middle class, talking about the fact this is a people-powered campaign that she will impact people's lived experiences. >> brian, we proposals by presi
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candidates in that harris will need congress to sign off on the proposals. we don't know what congress will look like after the election. as the numbers and data guy, how realistic or detailed is what she's proposing? >> some of the things are things that the administration has been trying to do. yes, congress is going to have to approve that $25,000 assistance on downpayment, which might catch the attention of a lot of voters. that can't necessarily happen on day one. you need congressional support. there's bureaucratic things she could do on the price gouging. that's what got my attention from her announcement. namely, she wants to give the federal trade commission and attorneys general more power in trying to police instances where they might see some large companies trying to unduly raise prices to increase profit margins without passing on cost to the consumer. these are things she could direct the ftc chair, if she keeps the current change or replaces her with somebody else,
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to basically say, why don't you tighten the screws on some of the companies? the current administration has tried to go to court against a number of companies to try to stop in some cases large mergers and acquisitions, with some mixed results. specifically on the big tech side. these are things that are viable. the plan was relatively vague when it comes to investigate and impose new penalties on companies. we don't know what they would look like or what might constitute price gouging, which economists have been telling me is a tough thing to identify and even prove in court. those are very difficult issues. >> jeff, the problem that democrats have had throughout the campaign is that the numbers seem good. there's economic progress. inflation is dropping. it fell below 3%. the vibes don't resonate for harris on the economy. is her effort here about contrasting herself with trump rather than biden? how do they get this economic message to sink in with voters?
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>> it's a vibes election. the harris campaign has embraced. this vibe is not one that's favorable to her. the answer to your question is, they do want to contrast with former president trump, specifically on tax policy and on tariffs. former president has proposed an increase in across the board tariffs, which economists say would lead to an increase in costs to americans. the harris campaign is aware of the fact that the numbers are coming down and the economic numbers look very positive, the fact that grocery prices, gas prices and housing prices are still high is a vulnerability. that's what she's trying to speak to. she's trying to come out aggressively on that with these proposals. of course, there's the question of whether or not they could get passed if she became president. it's her putting a marker on what she would like to do. that is a populist one, which
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she hopes will resonate with people in swing states like nevada and michigan and wisconsin. >> kimberly, the vice president has had a good run here, a honeymoon period with voters. she's got the race back to even like it was before joe biden dropped out, before the debate. now they head into their convention next week, the democratic convention. what are you looking for? joe biden will speak. there's hurt feelings about the way he might have been pushed out. the backdrop of the pro-palestinian protests which we expect to be vocal in chicago next week. we saw president biden interrupted three times at his event with kamala harris yesterday. give me an overall sense of what you are expecting next week. >> it will be a combination of passing that baton to the new democratic nominee in a way that democrats will probably try as much as they can to show unity,
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to sort of quell the bad feelings. i'm reminded of 2016 at the dnc when after hillary clinton accepted the nomination, a lot of the bernie sanders delegates were upset. we knew that would carry over. it did. we saw the results of that. the democrats will need to try to quell that and say, listen, you may not like the way we got here, but we have a job to do now. we need to pull together. as for the protests, that is one of the many issues that kamala harris, once she becomes the nominee, will have to address among things that voters care about and that democrats care about. so far, she has offered to listen, to sit down. but have a constructive conversation about it. we have seen her being able to handle protests and things like that. i don't think that that really bothers her. she knows she has to make the message, needs to make the pitch to voters the same way she's trying to do as we were discussing about the economy, on
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all of the issues, including gaza. the democrats have a lot to do next week. >> we do have breaking news. president biden just speaking in the oval office about the progress of negotiations around cease-fire talks in the middle east. let's listen to what the president had to say. we will talk about it after. >> one of the reasons why i was late was i was dealing with the cease-fire effort in the middle east. we are closer than we have ever been. i don't want to jinx anything. as my grandfather would say, the grace of good, a lot of luck, we may have something. we're not there yet. much, much closer than three days ago. keep your fingers crossed. thank you. >> jeff, put this into context. we have been here a couple of times where it seems as though negotiators are on the precipice of a deal and then it falls apart. this seems to be a level of optimism. how realistic might it be?
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>> a couple things, you are right to say we have been there a few times, more than a few. it hasn't led to something. the fact that the president is weighing in i think is notable. one, it shows his optimism. two, it shows a little shift with joe biden speaking to the press more, seeming a little bit less burdened after having stepped aside. three, ryan, on a political level, this could be a really, really big thing for him and his legacy. also for his successor, vice president harris, if they were able to come up with a peace deal. it would neutralize a lot of the problems that are facing her and her campaign that we have been talking about. it would also cap off his presidency in a way that he would like to have a strong finish. reality check back to what you said before. this is -- they have come close before. it hasn't happened. of course, the most important thing will be for them to actually get a deal done.
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>> we may have something. emphasis on may. it's that's what we need to put this into context. yamiche, brian, kimberly, jeff, thank you for being here. donald trump veers off topic and lands in hot water with veterans. that's next when "andrea mitchell reports" is back in 90 seconds only on msnbc. growing old is part of the journey, even when you have heart failure. but when he had shortness of breath, carpal tunnel syndrome, and lower back pain, we wondered, could these be warning signs of something bigger? thank goodness we called his cardiologist because these were signs of attr-cm, a rare and serious disease... ...that gets worse over time. if you see any of the warning signs, don't wait, ask your cardiologist about attr-cm today. (aaron) i own a lot of businesses... so my tech and my network need to keep up. warning signs, don't wait, thank you, verizon business.
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speaking last night at a campaign event intended to focus on anti-semitism, donald trump, as he often does, went off script, telling republican donor, the widow of sheldon adelson, that the medal of honor he bestowed upon her is better than the top award to members of the military. >> i really -- i have to say, i watched sheldon sitting so proud when we gave the presidential medal of freedom. that's the highest award you can get as a civilian. it's the equivalent of the congressional medal of honor. civilian version. it's actually much better. everyone gets the congressional medal of honor, that's soldiers. they are in very bad shape because they have been hit so many times by bullets or they are dead. >> that was the medal of freedom, not the medal of honor. joining me is garrett haake and
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jeremy peters. garrett, let's talk about that. he said what he said last night wasn't in the teleprompter. this is him going off script. do you think there's any effort by his staff to try to change his tone? is that a fruitless endeavor at this point? >> the staff knows they can only kind of build him the tracks that they want him to follow and hope he does. you saw that in the event that preceded this last night where he was speaking about inflation and abouting prices. it was like the campaign saying -- using that as a reminder, this is what the topic is supposed to be. whether they think they can clean it up in some particular way, i don't think there's any evidence that they feel a need to do that or that they could in a meaningful way. he said what he said, as he often does. onward the trump train goes. >> he made comments about john mccain early on in 2016. >> a laundry list. >> that was the end of his
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campaign but look where we are now. we saw this yesterday afternoon. he is in bedminster. he has all of the props around him. he went off script again and really went after kamala harris, suggesting he is entitled to personal attacks on the vice president. it took all the attention away from the event focussed on the economy, where polls show he has a strong message. do you think they will continue with these news conferences? is there evidence that this tactic is working for them? >> i think it's working in the sense that it reminds people that kamala harris is not answering a lot of questions from the media. she has here and there after events done little gaggles with reporters. one of the arguments that the trump campaign and trump himself keeps hitting on is the notion that she's hiding, she doesn't want to come out and face the cameras, she's basically doing what biden did and staying in the basement.
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i think that's going to change. at this point, just three, four weeks into her presidential campaign, she has the luxury of this honeymoon period. that's going to change once we have the convention next week. i would assume that once we get past labor day, you are going to see her sitting down for interviews. she's going to be out there. there will be policies. that's another criticism that -- today you are going to see policies where kamala harris is going to outline her economic plan. the trump campaign in flailing around, casting about, looking for an attack on her that will stick, still really hasn't found anything. that's why you see these random stream of consciousness rips from the president -- former president at his events. >> this may make some guys roll their eyes. but his base loves it.
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the question is, has he reached a ceiling in terms of riling up the base? at some point, does the campaign need to start making on entree to the middle of the road voters? >> the campaign doesn't think that they do. they don't think it's that kind of election. nothing in their behavior, advertisements, that suggest they are trying to go after the nikki haley voters. their belief is, this is a turnout election. find donald trump's base and turn them out. find people who would be inclined to vote for donald trump who are not engaged in politics. that's the way they view this. the tone can generate negative media coverage, a self-fulfilling bad news cycle, they don't see it as necessarily taking voters off the board that they were playing for anyway. i hear it from trump voters that they wish he would stop talking that are going to vote for him anyway. it creates negative buzz around him. whether it's the kind of thing
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that shifts elections, we will find out. >> garrett, jeremy, thank you. let's talk about this now with the former republican governor and 2016 presidential candidate john kasich. you and i have talked about this a lot in terms of the republican party kind of retreating that the base and not making an effort to get to the middle of the road. is this a huge mistake? do they have an opportunity to win this election by appealing to the middle of america? >> look, it makes total sense. i've been in office for 30 years. had a lot of elections. if all you are trying to do is deal with your base, what about the undecided voters? particularly in these battleground states where the race is so close. look, i tell you, i was in the gym today. i get a lot of ideas in the gym. one of the guys there, he doesn't have any political
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leanings. i told him i was coming on to talk about trump behavior. he said it's terrible. the democrats are talking about things they are going to do. where have they been in the last three years? that's a vulnerability the democrats have. trump is not taking advantage of any of it. i don't think -- you follow the guy. he just -- he gets bored with things that are critical here. that's why he gets off script. he is so interested in all the cheers and everything from his people. i have never thought you win elections by going to your base and not being able to reach out to other people. this is what he did in 2020. he lost. he lost that election. he is following the same format that he did in 2020. if he keeps it up -- if this is a battle between personality, his personality versus hers, he is going to lose that. if it's a battle on ideology and records, he has a shot to win.
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the polls indicate that. i don't know what he is going to do. who knows? >> the trump campaign believes that the enthusiasm that we are seeing for the harris-walz ticket is temporary. it has lasted a month. is the momentum she has sustainable? what's it going to take to keep that going? >> she's going to have to face the press at some point. she's going to have to have clear ideas. is she trying to run away from joe bidebiden? she's starting to realize something. people are not happy with the economy. by the way, real income for middle class americans has gone down. i think she's starting to say that you have to recognize that, to her credit. the problem is, back to my friend in the gym, who says, where have they been the last three years? trump is not speaking to that. then you have the issue of the border, which is another vulnerability i believe the
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democrats have. the argument is, where -- you stop it all? what have you been doing the last three and a half years? there's an opportunity for trump. will he take it? i don't know. if it's personality, his versus hers, he is a loser. i do think those undecided voters, who you have covered for many years now, those undecided voters matter a great deal, particularly in the battleground states. >> i appreciate your insight and your friend at the gym. make a stop before every appearance on msnbc. that contributed to the conversation. >> thank you. coming up, an nbc news exclusive. inside dnc convention prep days before the chicago kickoff. this is on "andrea mitchell reports," which is, of course, only on msnbc. your pet loves. with selection for any pet, with any diet, chewy has a taste for every tummy. all right at your fingertips.
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he started us with, we're going to claim the soul of this nation. i think that when he started that, we all looked and said, what does that really mean? then when we really went through this process and saw what we were up against, i really came to understand just how valuable that was. we decided that not only were we going to anchor in that, because he has always thought about unity, bipartisanship, it became the theme of who we were. so that's, to me, the underlying story of all of this. we are going to continue the work of the biden-harris administration. we are going to pivot to the future as we look at harris and walz. i think our anchor and our north staff was where he started us. >> joining me is jen psaki. i think it's safe to say that there's a lot riding on this
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convention for kamala harris. she has an unbelievable amount of momentum. she would like to sustain that. how is she going to use the convention to keep that momentum up? >> it's only been three and a half weeks, it's hard to believe, since she stepped in and is at the top of the ticket. this is her last best opportunity to communicate with a broad swath of the public, who may have seen her at a rally, maybe on tv, maybe they like her vibe, maybe they are feeling joy from her. this is the best opportunity to do that. after the convention, it becomes a sprint to the finish line. she will have a speech on thursday. the entire convention will be telling the story of who she is, her biography, what she's fighting for, the prosecutor versus the convicted felon i'm sure will be a part of it, as will her own biography, the define nine. she was a member of a sorority. also, conveying to the public the choice and the selection. this is an important moment for
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every presidential nominee. >> there's an opportunity for democrats to actually build this bridge between biden and harris that maybe they didn't get to do because of how quickly president biden ended up leaving the race. probably a little hurt feelings there about the way this process played out. he will have his opportunity to kind of give a farewell speech on monday. what should we expect? >> that's exact -- i was thinking about this earlier. this is probably his last huge speech that he will give. we don't know if he will give a final speech in january. this is also a huge moment for president biden. i would expect -- he is beloved in the party. even more so now given the choice he made a couple of weeks ago. to your point, this is really a baton passing in many ways. he is speaking on monday night. i would anticipate a big standing ovation for him in the room. i have been talking to staffers who are feeling emotional. they are feeling elated. they are feeling sad. old biden alumni will fly in to
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be there. there's a staff party happening afterwards. for president biden, i think this is his opportunity to tell the story of how he sees this moment in history. as you heard in that clip, he has always been a believer in the possibility of bipartisanship. he is a believer in civility. he is a believer in getting things done for the working man and working woman. i expect those themes to be in his speech as well as a defense of the soul of the nation, which is a phrase and language he used in 2020. he has continued to it. he sees that as the choice that has been the choice in this election and will continue to be for the remaining period. >> it's dangerous to read into body language. i watched that joint appearance between harris and biden. it seemed as though biden -- there was a degree of weight off his shoulders. he did seem comfortable in making this decision, at least at this point. do you think that's a fair assessment? how do he and harris navigate this relationship? >> i think it's probably a mixed
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bag. i think for him and his family and the people who are close to him, including staffers who have worked for him for a long time, enormous pride, a weight lifted. there's no more campaigns he will be running. that's a sad thing if you have been in public life for more than 50 years. i think their relationship is one where it's complementary. that's what the presidential and vice presidential relationship should be. they have different strengths. they have different superpowers. i loved what president biden said this week about lou tim walz is somebody he would be friends with. he is saying, here is your vice presidential running mate. he is the kind of guy i would hang out with, too. i think that tells you a lot about the complementary nature of it. for president biden, i think it's bittersweet. i think this is the end of a long incredible career. there's only a few more months to go in the story that will be told on that front. >> jen psaki, thanks for that. catch "inside with jen psaki"
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sunday at 12:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. another programming note, "andrea mitchell reports" will be live from the democratic national convention in chicago next week. don't miss andrea's special coverage. bracing for impact, hurricane ernesto barrels towards bermuda, set to bring with it life-threatening flooding. we are live there for the island's final preparations. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc.
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hurricane ernesto is it barrels toward bermuda. the category 2 storm has left hundreds of thousands without power in puerto rico and could dump up to 15 inches of rain on bermuda. bermuda is under a hurricane warning today with conditions there expected to worsen this afternoon. nbc news correspondent guad venegas joins us from bermuda with the latest. guad, give us a sense of what you are seeing on the ground right now. >> reporter: ryan, it's the final hours of preparation here in bermuda. the weather is relatively calm. we have had some light rain. these are the final hours for people to get all of their supplies, food, water, of course, batteries and to make sure they charge their phones before we get that heavy rain and the wind. the water here usually doesn't
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have this much waves. it will make its way west of the island. authorities today, the head of the weather service in bermuda said residents needed to keep in mind no matter where it ends up passing, they expect the effects of the storm to affect the entirety of bermuda. during that press conference, the minister of national security wanted people to understand the danger of the rain and the wind that's expected. this is him speaking minutes ago. >> this is not a storm to be taken lightly. we are about to endure at least 36 hours of hurricane and tropical storm force winds. if you do not take these warnings seriously, you are putting yourself in danger and the lives of our emergency personnel who may be called to assist you. >> reporter: the total shutdown
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is expected to begin tonight. the airport will be shutting down with the last flights getting out this afternoon. there's a lot of tourists on the island that are happy to be able to get on flights. others that were going to be flying out saturday or sunday tried making changes. many tell us it was impossible because those flights were sold out. they will have to ride out the storm here in bermuda. cruise ships have left early to make sure they were safe and away from the storm. it's the final hours before we see the wind and the rain from ernesto come down here to bermuda. >> guad, live in bermuda. stay safe. thank you for that report. a growing gender gap in a key battleground as the republican ticket drivers many women voters away. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. rts" onlc (aaron) i own a lot of businesses... so my tech and my network need to keep up. thank you, verizon business. (kevin) now our businesses get fast and reliable internet from the same network that powers our phones.
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with the democratic national convention kicking off in chicago on monday, the harris campaign is hoping to keep its momentum going and hold on to the swell of enthusiasm it is seeing heading into november. joining me now is republican strategist susan del percio, adam gentleson and former advisor for president biden's 2020 campaign, alencia johnson. susan, i want to show you a new poll this week that shows in the
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battleground of pennsylvania, women are backing harris over trump 54% to 41%, whereas men support trump by a seven-point margin. the comments we are hearing about kamala harris and from j.d. vance about women, can they pivot this to make a point and inroads with women voters who are an important part of who decides the next president? >> they can try. as we have been discussing and will continue to discuss, donald trump's not going to change. he is not going to stop being a bully, he is not going to stop going to georgia and making fun of the very popular governor's wife. those are things that turn off independent and especially women voters. donald trump is banking on two things. crime and the economy as far as issues to go after those suburban women. right now, it's not going to be enough. in many states we have abortion
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on the ballot. also, donald trump is just turning them off in droves, similar to what he did in 2020. >> vice president harris could see a boost from a powerful voting block, that's black women. she's a proud member of a sorority. she has access to members of the divine nine greek organization. tell us about that. how will that help her across the country? >> i'm one of those 2.4 million divine nine members. our group chats are fired up and talking about wearing our colors at conventions, on election day, on inauguration day. soon after it came up she was the nominee, you saw the divine nine organizations who are non-profits talking about voter mobilization. then you saw some of them,
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endorsing kamala harris, along with other members of the greek letter organizations that are running for office. you will see this contingent not only mobilizing their members, also they are leaders and influential folks in their communities. they will continue to mobilize a lot more black voters within their service areas and beyond. >> adam, vice president harris is getting support from the different voting blocks. there's a worry she's losing older white voters who supported president biden at the top of the ticket. what can the harris campaign do to hold on to them? >> i think first of all, it's not clear that that is grounded in a lot of data so far. the numbers so far have been holding relatively steady, even as she has improved with other blocks like young voters, non-white voters. we have to wait and see if those
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losses do manifest. i think there's a lot of things she can do. she's been very smart so far about signaling moderation across a number of issues. she's been running aggressively on border security on her own role that she did play as vice president in reducing border crossings over the past couple of years. border crossings are way down. there was a story about how governor abbott of texas, who has been famous for shipping migrants to other cities, he is having trouble filling buses because there are so few border crossings. i think she's mindful of that risk. she's addressing border security. i think we will see that probably next week at the convention and as the campaign moves into the fall. >> susan, we are anticipating the first debate between kamala harris and donald trump. it's less than a month away. abc announced it will be held at
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the national constitution center in philadelphia. how would you advise either candidate as they prepare for their first meeting? >> trump is hopeless. put it that way. he will not prepare. he will do a little and he will yell and scream and go around and stalk the vice president on tv if he repeats his performance from 2016 with hillary clinton. when it comes to the vice president, i think she has a lot of that training built in as a prosecutor. i think we're going to see her make her case. what is so important for the vice president in this debate is to really come home to voters under 40, but even more voters between 20 -- 18 and 25. they're really looking at her now and being most vaccinated to vote for her. they weren't necessarily ever going to really go for trump, but they were staying on the couch when it came to biden. now they're active. i think that should be more of
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her target as far as that goes because she is actually doing well with voters over 65, 70 years old. the problem where trump does well for her is in the people in their 50s. >> there's always a danger in a debate with donald trump because he is not afraid to go after someone personally. he said yesterday that he believes he has license to attack kamala harris personally. how does she respond if those personal attacks come not just during the debate but in these weeks leading up to the debate and then when she is -- they're face to face on the stage? >> well, i've noticed over the past few weeks when he makes a personal attack, she gets down to business. she talks about his policies and calls him a bully. i do think in the debate of course he is going to have the personal attacks. we saw what he was doing to secretary hillary clinton. but if i was him, i'd be pretty scared because i remember vice president harris when she was
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senator and prosecuting the case when people were at the judiciary hearings. and i think that is what you're going to see from her, you know, shut him down kind of like she did vice president pence, telling him that she was speaking and to stop interrupting her, and then moving forward with very real policy. >> and adam, there is new polling from abc that shows that more americans are paying attention to what's happening in this debate, and they have more of a favorable impression of tim walz than they do of j.d. vance. what impact is the bottom of the ticket going to have in this race coming up? >> well, i think vice presidential picks typically don't have a major impact on the race. i think vice president harris will win or lose this on her own merits, and so far she is winning. you know, it is the first major decision that she's had to make as the de facto or presumptive nominee. and i think the evidence shows that she made a great decision
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here. governor walz has proven extremely popular, much more popular than his republican counterpart who is already creating major headaches for the trump campaign. he's proven a very adept campaigner. he's great on the stump. he's funny. he's -- he clearly enjoys the job. they always say interviews for the job you want and he clearly wants this job. >> all right. susan, adam, olencia johnson, thank you so much for being here. last hour at the white house president biden was joined by civil rights leader to officially designate the site of the 1908 race riot in springfield, illinois, as a national monument. 116 years ago this week a white mob terrorized black residents for days hanging two black men and burning black-owned homes and businesses to the ground. the riot led activists to form the naacp six months later. up next, profiting from addiction. damning text messages between the two doctors charged in
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queen. all in connection with the actor's fatal ketamine overdose. prosecutors say the "friends" star was injecting the drug six to eight times a day, spending $85,000 on ketamine in the month before he died. dea administrator ann milligram on the "today" show this morning said that perry was being treated with ketamine for anxiety and depression, but at some point he wanted a higher dosage which his physicians wouldn't provide, so he sought out other sources. >> it's part of the tragedy of this case that doctors are in a position of authority and trust, and these doctors violated that. they saw him as a payday, and they saw it as an opportunity for them to make a lot of money. so it doesn't matter, this is an important message in the united states, it doesn't matter if you're wearing a doctor's coat or you're a member of a cartel or you're a drug dealer on the street, we're going to hold you accountable if you're selling drugs. >> joining us from los angeles, nbc news correspondent steve
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patterson. it just seems that the story gets more heartbreaking with every development. what does the indictment tell us about the doctors and the dealers who allegedly provided this ketamine to perry? >> reporter: yeah, i think heartbreaking is the operative word here. i think you could take it a step further. this document is harrowing. it points the -- paints the portrait of a man who is spiralling into his addiction and instead of the people closest to him providing help, instead of medical doctors who swear an oath to nurture and preserve life, they are further pushing him into that abyss. so again, as you mentioned, he's receiving these legitimate ketamine treatments for anxiety and depression. it's clear he wants more. in these documents, he find this dr. salvador plasencia, noted as dr. p. in the indictment. gets 50 -- sorry, 20 vials for $50,000. keep in mind every figure i'm going to list is within the weeks of his death. 20 vials, $50,000, and it's clear at points when the doctor is giving injections in this
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indictment that perry is at times freezing up, if not borderline seizing, and yet these treatments continued. this is the guy that is listed as saying i wonder how much this moron will pay. he then finds the ketamine queen where he receives 50 vials for $11,000, clear that you will the people listed in the indictment, five in total, prosecutors say led to perry's death at some point with all of these ketamine treatments going on. ryan? >> steve patterson, thank you for that report. we appreciate it. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." andrea will be back monday live from the dnc in chicago. remember to follow the show on social media at mitchell reports. you can follow me at ryan nobles with one n and re-watch the best parts of the show any time on youtube. go to msnbc.com/andrea. chris jansing reports with jose diaz-balart starts right now.
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