times freezing up, if not borderline seizing, and yet these treatments continued. this is the guy that is listed as saying i wonder how much this moron will pay. he then finds the ketamine queen where he receives 50 vials for $11,000, clear that you will the people listed in the indictment, five in total, prosecutors say led to perry's death at some point with all of these ketamine treatments going on. ryan? >> steve patterson, thank you for that report. we appreciate it. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." andrea will be back monday live from the dnc in chicago. remember to follow the show on social media at mitchell reports. you can follow me at ryan nobles with one n and re-watch the best parts of the show any time on youtube. go to msnbc.com/andrea. chris jansing reports with jose diaz-balart starts right now.

and good day. i'm jose diaz-balart in for chris jansing. help to get ahead, not just get by. that's how vice president harris is framing the economic plan she'll be unveiling in her first real policy speech set to take place in the next hour. plus, hurricane ernesto could hit bermuda directly by this time tomorrow. residents warning they're running out of time to hunker down before getting slammed with up to 100 mile-per-hour winds and more than a foot of rain. i'll talk to one of the heads of fema about that impending disaster and the one they're already dealing with in puerto rico where a quarter million people are still in the dark. and the venezuelan opposition leader has been relentless in her fight for freedom. now in hiding, she is calling for world solidarity as she tries to ratchet up pressure on nicolas maduro following last month's disputed presidential election. coming up, more of my conversation with her about what's next for her country.

>> we won't let go. we won't surrender. we'll keep fighting, putting pressure and internationally so maduro accepts that his only real choice is to accept the terms of negotiation which we are offering. >> more from that conversation shortly. we start with vice president harris taking her first shot at outlining to the american people what her presidency might look like as she travels to north carolina to unveil the heart of her economic agenda later this afternoon. that's expected to include plans to lower the cost of groceries and prescription drugs, expand affordable housing, and cut taxes for the middle class. it's part of an ongoing challenge to capitalize on the most popular and effective policies from the biden administration while drawing a contrast with the president and responding to the millions of people unhappy with the economy. i want to bring in nbc's ramish

alsandor, dean of the clinton school of public service at the university of arkansas and msnbc contributor, and tim miller, writer at large for "the bulwark" who worked on the jeb bush presidential campaign and is an msnbc political analyst. so yamish, the vice president just arrived to north carolina moments ago. set the stage for what we can expect today. >> yeah, good afternoon from what is really battleground north carolina. the harris campaign wanting to make this date more competitive, believing that she's in a better place to win the state than president biden was. now what she's going to be doing today is laying out her policy proposals, laying out her policy plans. she's been getting some feedback and criticism of not having really details and proposals about what a harris presidency would look like. as you said, she's really both saying i want to do some new things while also building on the biden-harris administration. i want to take you through

things she's talking about and expected to talk about today. she's going to be calling for a federal ban on corporate price gouging on groceries, hoping that americans will feel that in their pockets and that groceries and food will be cheaper because of that. she also is going to throw support behind an expanded child tax credit. up to $6,000 for middle income and low-income families with newborns in the first year of that child's life, now she will be proposing a $3,600 tax credit for children -- middle-class families after that first year. she's also going to be talking about cutting taxes for families and frontline workers. that plan revives and extend temporary measures that president biden had already put into place during the first two years of his term. she'll propose building three million housing units and helping renters to try to keep the cost of renting down. and she's going to be expanding, she wants to be expanding the $35 insulin cap which also is something that would be building on what president biden was doing. she's going to propose up to $25,000 in down payment support for first-time homebears.

take -- home buyers. taken together, this is her pitch to say i'm here to focus on the middle class, i'm here to make the middle class better. when the middle class is great, america is great. she's launched the campaign in the last few weeks here. she's going come here and hope to talk to americans in this state but also hoping to really send a message to the nation that her campaign and her presidency would help everyday americans. jose? >> thank you so very much. appreciate it. victoria, "the new york times" says, quote, taken together her plan represents more of a reboot of president biden's economic policy than a radically fresh start, a new sales pitch focused on his most popular aspects. not a new vision. many of the policies reiterate or build on proposals, and mr. biden's most recent presidential budget. what are the challenges for the vice president here? >> well, first of all, here we see her going deeper.

we're not seeing a radical shift away from what biden did, but stepping back you see a shift from what the democratic center was during the clinton administration or the obama administration. i think you see that progressive move toward progressive policy. i think that's really important to see that within the democratic party. and what this means on the ground is a lot more tangibility in what we're going to be seeing rolled out here. we're talking about eggs, butter, bread. we're talking about the insulin that people need to take on a daily basis. and then also thinking about our children, our homes, things that are those kitchen table issues. i think at the end of the day, it really is about the economy. it is about figuring out what your stability is. so i think in going here she wants to reach that disaffected group of, say, independents and democrats who have shifted for the republican party in making

the tangibles front and center. >> you know, it's in "the washington post," described this an aggressively populist economic agenda. so there's different sides depending on where you're standing. what do you think here republicans are going to pick apart in their criticism of the vice president's policy? >> for sure, some of this stuff is good politics and great economics. and so i think that it's good for her to be forward looking rather than defensive of the biden agenda. all the things that yamiche listed poll very well. all are popular. if you're on the republican side you're going to look at this and try to turn the price gouging, her efforts to stop price gouging at grocery stores, and say well that's price controls, that's what you see in socialist countries, that's backfired, it hasn't worked. donald trump tried to deliver that message yesterday at bedminster. he had one or two sentences

about it, but then he was rambling and got distracted and started talking about so many other things and issuing personal attacks. i think it overshadowed the substance of the economic attack. i think that is where they will try to focus that some of this is big government gone awry, that it's not actually -- it might actually exacerbate inflation more than doing anything to combat it. >> yeah. victoria, president obama's top economist is apparently not a fan of this plan to go after price gouging. he told "the washington post," quote, the good case scenario is price gouging is a message, not a reality. bad case scenario is that this is a real proposal. you'll end up with bigger shortages, less supply, and ultimately risk higher prices and worse outcomes for consumers if you try to force this in a real way which i don't know if they would or would not do. how should the american people know what are realistic proposals and what is just

messaging? >> so we're in the thick of campaign season, so we are going to see a lot of these bold messages come out. to tim's point, these issues poll extremely well. the other thing we all have to keep in mind is that the president by herself or himself cannot do it all. there's going to have to be a lot of help from congress. it also is going to depend on what the public decides and who they send to washington. so these proposals, their ability to actually take effect are going to depend on that. i think that this is the place and maybe the american public will balance this message out with a republican congress and, hence, trying to check and balance those potential off effects from a price control or price gouging depending on how you look at it. >> yeah, tim, the vice president will have to kind of thread the needle of -- just started talking about this -- kind of embracing the president's

economic policies that have been very successful and that happen are popular, but also distancing herself from the more unpopular aspects of his administration. how is she going to be able to accomplish that? >> i think probably by not worrying about defending the president's record that much. that's what i would recommend that she do at least. one of the core messages here that she's offered is we're not going back, we're focused on the future, we're focused on how to change things to make things better for americans. i think people are very tired of the trump years, even though biden was the president, he was.during this kind of era -- was president during this kind of era where donald trump has overshadowed politics. people are sick of it. they're sick of him. the more she can talk about her policy proposals going forward and not get bogged down in being defensive of the biden-harris agenda on economics -- it's been pretty good, frankly, but not worth arguing out the details. the best thing for the campaign is to talk about what she's going to do going forward. i think that's what she's focused on.

>> yeah. victoria, peggy noonan writes about vice president's acceptance speech at the dnc ads the biggest -- as the biggest speech of her life and writes, quote, here is her big opportunity. nobody knows how she thinks. we don't really know what she thinks either. but how she thinks is more interesting and important. so far her story is her persona, child of immigrants, mixed race, a woman who's risen high. what else is in there? what does she see when she thinks of the word "america"? what is its story, and does she understand it? how will she add to it? some interesting concepts. what do you think, victoria, her speech needs to be about? >> so first of all, it's an introduction, jose. folks know she is the vice president, but they really don't know kamala harris for the most part. this is such an important part just in terms of connecting with the broader american public. and aside from that, picking up

on themes she's already been establishing. number one, one of optimism and forward thinking. we're not going back, and not only are we going forward, but i feel really good about where we're going forward. and on the immigrant piece -- and we've been seeing bits and pieces of this, so she is that american dream story. and further, this is about not just surviving in this country but about thriving. and i think that if she can capture that energy and coupling it with that forward vision, i think that can be extremely powerful. >> victoria and tim, thank you both. tim, if you would, stay with me. in 90 second we're going to talk about hurricane ernesto. it strengthens to a cat two as it barrels toward bermuda. the life-threatening conditions residents there are preparing for. plus, how fema is handling the widespread devastation the storm left behind in puerto rico. fema's acting recovery and response director joins me next. stay with us.

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could be next. the storm already pummelled puerto rico. from even a further distance, but it left 245,000 households without power as of right now. and due to the spin of the storm, it is also unusually hot there, a dangerous situation with so many people simply don't have electricity, and they need to turn on some way of cooling themselves. aerial views show devastation on the island. entire streets under water. this road completely unusable as it disappears into the floods. puerto rico got so much rain that it burst a major dam. take a look. you can see the water rushing out past the barriers. nbc's guad venegas is in bermuda today. guad, people there expecting the storm to arrive. how are they preparing? >> reporter: jose, you've got two categories. you've got the residents that have prepared for storms like this in the past with officials telling them they need to make

sure they have food, water, batteries, and of course charge their cellphones. some of them boarding up their homes or businesses. but you also have a lot of tourists that came, that scheduled this vacation before they knew there was a hurricane coming to bermuda. there's a group of individuals right next to me who are staying at this resort. many of these tourists said they had flights that were leaving on saturday or sunday. they don't know if they'll be able to leave on those flights. some of them trying to change their flight, but they were unable to. so they're essentially out here before the rain and the wind intensifies in this part of the island. then they have to shelter in place. government officials had a press conference earlier today making sure people understood the severity of this storm. they expect a lot of rain and a lot of wind here in bermuda for about 36 hours. so the shutdown will begin later tonight. the airport is going to shut down. cruise ships have already left the island. and by then it's going to be

just the time for people to shelter in place throughout the evening and into tomorrow. now the forecast has the hurricane making its way northwest of bermuda in this direction. we would be getting the wind and a lot of rain right here. but the head of the weather service of bermuda did say that they expect the wind and rain conditions to affect the entire island, not just the west part of island. the last time that a storm this big came this close to bermuda was fiona two years ago. that storm did not make a direct impact, but it did cause damage to the power infrastructure. left thousands without power and also caused other types of damage here. so that's why government officials want people to understand how big this storm is as ernesto keeps making its way toward bermuda, jose. >> guad venegas, i thank you so much. take care. and joining us now is keith turry, fema's acting director of

recovery. thank you so much for your time. what are you hearing about the situatio in puerto rico? >> thanks for having me. so our understanding is that those well under way. as was mentioned, a tropical storm when it passed by puerto u.s. virgin islands still obviously capable of producing significant damage from wind and from rain. in the last couple of days there's been significant effort in getting stabilization activities under way. the power obviously did go out for a number of residents. those numbers are improving at this point in time. and fema is on the ground supporting our partners with the governor of puerto rico. we actually deployed teams in advance of the storm to support those that we already have permanently on the island. and we're linked with them, able to provide any support they may need. >> so what kind of support are you able to give the people of puerto rico? i'm thinking also the u.s. virgin islands, what kind of support are you able to provide?

>> so the president approved for puerto rican emergency declaration prior to the storm making landfall. that gives us the ability to provide direct federal assistance. we've predeployed incident management teams to help with coordination of the recovery. we've predeployed power restoration teams that can provide generators to critical facilities if required and also search and rescue capability. that is all provided to supplement what is already there on the island, already part of the government of puerto rico's response. but making sure that anything that's required to get those critical lifelines like power, water, transportation back up and running and make sure folks are safe, that we're able to support anything that may be needed. >> you know, a federal audit revealed that only a fraction, 8% of the money meant for puerto rico after hurricane maria and earthquakes, was actually spent on aid there. can the people of puerto rico trust that this time they're going to have some kind of assistance and access to this --

these funds? >> yeah, for this storm right now we're still in the stabilization period. us making sure that everyone's safe, everyone is secure. we'll move into the damage assessment phase with our partners in puerto rico and see where that leads us to additional types of assistance. previous support through other disasters, those processes take time. there's been a lot of work done since the earthquake and since hurricane maria to help support rebuilding in puerto rico. that includes a significant work on the power grid to make it more secure and more stable than it was before maria. but of course there's still a lot of work to be done, a lot of projects that are under way, projects that will be executed over the next couple of days. as i said earlier, we have a team of staff that are full time dedicated to puerto rico, they're there every day to help support those efforts and continue to help make the infrastructure there more resilient to these storms in the future. >> yeah. hurricane maria was in 2017. we're in 2024.

i know things move slow, but man. keith, as you know, fema just shifted to immediate needs mode. it predicted deficit of $6 billion by september? next month? is there enough money out there to help all these people? you know, we're -- we haven't gotten to the most intense part of the atlantic hurricane season. >> yeah, that's the reason why we go into meeting needs funding. obviously our projections were that there was not going to be significant resources in the disaster relief fund for our operations and supporting the long-term recovery projects that those obligations as they come up. so we've transitioned to what we call immediate needs funding. that means essentially prioritizing life safety, prioritizing the response operations that we need do between now and the end of the fiscal year to make sure that we have those resources required for those life safety requirements, and then our expectation is at the beginning of next fiscal year when the relief funds are replenished we'll be able to fund projects that were temporarily paused. we take that action to make sure

that our priority is on keeping people safe and supporting life safety which is our core primary mission, and this methodology of immediate needs funding lets us do that. >> keith, thank you so much for being with us. pressure your time. >> thank you. israel remains on high alert amid ongoing concerns of retaliation from iran as negotiators continue high-level cease-fire talks. we're going to go live to tel aviv next. -cologuard®? -cologuard. cologuard! -screen for colon cancer. -at home, like you want. -you the man! cologuard is for people 45+ at average risk, not high risk. false positive and negative results may occur. ask your provider for cologuard. ♪ i did it my way ♪

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26 past the hour. so many questions still remain in jeopardy today, vis-a-vis venezuela. as a matter of fact, the future of venezuela remains in question. nearly three weeks after a contested election there. nicolas maduro keeps insisting he won without any evidence, presenting any evidence after the election results seemed to show the opposition won in a landslide. earlier today, i asked venezuelan opposition leader maria corina machado, who has been targeted by the maduro regime, about how they plan to proceed. >> tomorrow we will have a huge, a huge mobilization and calling people to the streets around the world in our 300 cities around the world and tens of cities in

venezuela, as well. so we will see the people's power expressed, and the regime know that we will not give up, and that we will go all the way until the end. >> the history shows that there are very few cases in which digtators or author -- dictators or authoritarians leave power or relinquish power voluntarily. what makes you think that in this case history can be changed? >> well, we were told there are few cases in which we could demonstrate our victory against our regime that controls all the electoral process, and we did. so right now, it is not by his own will that he's standing where he's standing. he -- maduro lost total touch with reality. he never expected that so many people, this massive

participation, would turn out the day of the election. but even less than we were ready and prepared to prove a victory. he's in the weakest situation ever. he has no legitimacy whatsoever. >> tomorrow is a day you are calling for people to come out and go on the streets peacefully, not only in venezuela but throughout the world. the last time you called for people to come out you actually showed up. you have an arrest warrant. they have killed and arrested people that work with you and those who are participating in a democratic process that has been stymied by the regime. how are you doing, and how are you going to continue when there is a huge target on your back? >> there's a huge target on the back of many, many, and we are not going to let go. we will not abandon our people.

we will keep on moving this small movement forward and growing and growing every day that goes by. tomorrow, it's -- a unique day. i think it will be historic. >> maria corina machado, thank you. and now to new developments in the middle east. earlier today negotiators from the u.s., egypt, and qatar announced they had delivered an updated cease-fire and hostage proposal to israel and hamas which they say narrows the gaps between the parties and is consistent with the plan established by president biden and endorsed by the u.n. security council. nbc's raf sanchez is in tel aviv. also with us jack jacobs, u.s. army retired nbc news, mnz military analyst. medal of honor recipient. what comes next? >> reporter: so the negotiation jarrett wrapped up what -- negotiators wrapped up what were two days of meetings in qatar.

the united states says these were serious and constructive conversations. what was different about this round of negotiations is at the end the u.s. presented what it is calling a bridging proposal. so previously we've had hamas' position, israel's position, and a gap in between. this time the united states putting forward a text of its own, trying to close those gaps. now that has been presented to israel, presented to hamas, according to the mediators. and we hope to find out in the coming days their initial take on it. the mediators say they will meet again in cairo next week. president biden was briefed on these talks a little earlier. he says we are significantly closer to a deal now than we were three days ago. take a listen. >> we are closer than we've ever been. i don't want to jinx anything, but as my grandfather said with the grace of god give the nations a lot of luck. we may have something. we're not there yet.

>> now jose, these talks in qatar taking place under the shadow of that potential iranian attack on israel. what was very notable, the prime minister of qatar, who has been the key mediator throughout these long ten months, called the iranian foreign minister, both yesterday and today, to update him on the status of the talks and the message from qatar is pretty clear to the iranians -- hold off on this attack at least for now. let this diplomatic process that we are trying to steer move ahead. and so far there is no sign of this iranian and hezbollah attack. that does not mean people here in israel are sleeping easy, but it is more than two weeks now since that very high-profile assassination of a hamas leader in the very heart of tehran. a huge humiliation for the iranian regime. despite all this talk of retaliation, it hasn't yet materialized. i'll also close by saying secretary blinken will be

heading back here to the middle east this weekend. jose? >> raf sanchez in tel aviv. thank you very much. so colonel, israeli prime minister netanyahu is under tremendous pressure from protesters at home demanding a hostage deal. his own defense minister saying the goal of totally destroying hamas' quote nonsense, senior u.s. officials told "the new york times" that israel has done all it can militarily. do you believe israel can achieve its state department goals of destroy -- stated goals destroying hamas and bring home the hostages by force at this point? >> well, the short answer is no. that was -- that was not an achievable objective even at the beginning of the war. totally destroying hamas and getting all the hostages back. they're not going to get all the hostages back, as we know. and one of the sticking points is in what phased array or r hostages going to be -- are hostages going to be released. another sticking point and one

that hasn't been addressed fully and may not be addressed fully is who is going to control the border of gaza? now israel wants to control the southern border to make sure that there are -- there's no further entrance of, a militants, and b, weapons into gaza when the shooting stops. but neither hamas nor egypt wants that to happen. so it's going to be an extremely difficult negotiation to get -- somebody's going to have to give in the end. hamas cannot be totally destroyed, and they will be resummerents of it -- resurgents of it as long as iran wants it to be a resurgence of it. not all the hostages will be released, certainly not the first time around, jose. >> yeah. and you know, there's so many kind of different possible outcomes of what could happen in israel. i mean, the consequences of the peace talks go far beyond gaza,

could determine whether israel is plunged into an all-out war, with lebanon or with iran, but each of those countries have serious domestic problems. lebanon has been dealing with dire economic crisis for years, according to "the new york times." hezbollah is worried the lebanese people could turn on them if they drag them into the war. in iran, not long ago they had mass protests against the regime, a regime that has been violating the rights of its people since 1979. the supreme leader there is 85 years old. his presumed successor died in a helicopter crash back in may. all these groups have vowed to retaliate against israel. how can the u.s. and its allies take advantage of that uncertain moment to maybe keep a lid on these tensions and maybe even, you know, avoid a greater war? >> you know, it's really interesting that the united states is -- is using all the

elements of policy, all the instruments of foreign policy in order to prevent a larger war and to influence the -- the combatants here. one is diplomacy, and we've already spoken about that. continued effort in that regard, especially using intermediaries like qatar and others and egypt is going to be of great assistance in maintaining, keeping the lid on. second is the use of the economic instrument the united states has been very successful in using economics to try to keep the lid on iran. you mention a very interesting thing about the internal politics of iran. the person who is elected just recently was elected as a reformer, and immediately fired his vice president. so he was heavily influenced by what the mulas said. the undercurrent of the populous' discontent with the regime is also -- is always an

influence here, and the more discontented the populous inside iran is, the easier it's going to be for the united states and other clear-thinking people in the region to keep things quiet. at the end of the day, hezbollah is a major independent variable here. it's funded by iran, trained by iran, supported by iran, but it makes decisions often by itself. a mistake by hezbollah is liable to tip the balance and may make things much, much worse. but for the time being, things will remain as quiet as they have been as long as the united states continues doing what it's doing and its allies and people who are assisting it keep doing what it's doing, jose. >> and colonel, i want to take advantage of having you here and the privilege of our conversations always. i know that as a medal of honor recipient, i wanted to play for you something former president trump said yesterday. i want your thoughts after you

listen to what he said. >> we gave miriam the presidential medal of freedom, that's the highest award you can get as a civilian. it's the equivalent of the congressional medal of honor, but civilian version. it's actually much better because everyone gets the congressional medal of honor, that soldiers, they're either in bad shape because they've been hit so many times by bullets or they're dead. >> colonel, just -- what are your thoughts on what he said? >> well, it depends how much time we have. donald trump is the least adroit public speaker in my memory, and i'm pretty old. so i remember a lot of public speakers. it's difficult often to figure out what the guy is saying in the first instance. that's the first thing. and most people are not entirely certain that he knows what he's talking about. every time he talks, it's extremely digressive, goes from one subject to another without finishing the first subject.

but we have to remember that in this particular case, remember that donald trump is the same guy who some time ago said that people suggested and said directly about the first world war marines that anybody who serves this country is a sucker. it's -- we also have to remember that it's donald trump who managed to avoid the draft by having this deleterious bone spur on his foot. you're looking at somebody here, me, who believes that everybody who's lucky enough to have live in a free country owes it something in the form of service. we have to constantly be mindful of what the first century hebrew scholar hill el said, if i am only for myself, what am i? and after that, you can probably conclude if you're only for yourself, you may in fact be donald trump. an extremely unfortunate thing to say by somebody who says a large number of very unfortunate things, jose. >> colonel jack jacobs, i thank

you very much for your service, and i thank you very much for being with us today. >> thank you. coming up, former president trump wrapping up personal attacks on vice president kamala harris saying he's entitled to do so. how do voters feel about that? u? since my citi custom cash® card automatically adjusts to earn me more cash back in my top eligible category... suddenly life's feeling a little more automatic. like doors opening wherever i go... [sound of airplane overhead] even the ground is moving for me! y'all seeing this? wild! and i don't even have to activate anything. oooooohhh... automatic sashimi! earn cash back that automatically adjusts to how you spend with the citi custom cash® card. [mind blown explosion noise]

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42 past the hour. many of donald trump's allies have been pleading with him to focus his campaign messaging on policy issues and stop the personal attacks on vice president harris. but he hasn't been taking that advice very much. case in point, yesterday's news conference at his new jersey golf club. the intent was to focus on the economy and inflation. his campaign placing grocery items on tables behind him. there you see it. former president doubled down on personal attacks on harris. even insisting he has a right to do that.

>> i think i'm entitled to personal attacks. i don't have a lot of respect for her. i don't have a lot of respect for her intelligence. and i think she'll be a terrible president. and i think it's very important that we win. and whether the personal attacks are good, bad, she certainly attacks me personally. she actually called me weird, "he's weird." it was just a sound bite. she called j.d. and i weird. >> nbc's dasha burns is covering the trump campaign. tim miller is back. so i thank you for that, tim. dasha, what more can you tell us about the trump campaign's goal for the news conference? did they accomplish what they intended to? >> reporter: look, you can tell just by the background that the goal was to focus on the economy, inflation. he had those grocery item props behind him. but you played it there. he did kind of go off the rails a little bit on those personal attacks. and look, he -- he says that he feels like he's entitled to those. he said in that conference that he has to do this his way.

and his way is trying to brand harris, take a listen to what he said. >> this is a radical left lunatic that we have running for office, and i'm trying to brand her as such because if i don't, you know, they get a lot of support, they get a lot of money coming in from lots of bad places. >> reporter: the thing is that branding has really ranged on the spectrum. he hasn't coalesced around a single line of attack that's necessarily sticking or working. look, when i talk to his advisers, i talked to one of his officials recently who said the thing is trump is our secret sauce. because he is who he is and the way that he is, he's also been successful so we sort of have to take the good with the bad, the things that work with the things that don't work. at the same time people are look at the data seeing that significant gender gap. that's why you have people like

nikki haley and other going on the airwaves saying you need to focus on a policy contrast and stay away from personal attacks because it could be turning off some of those voters that you really, really need. >> yeah. i mean, tim, i'm thinking about 2016, right? when trump was equally as unpredictable, comments of all kinds, you know, making fun of people left and right. and yet he was successful there. is it -- do you think two times or three times, is this -- sorry. dasha, i'm sorry, i think i want to thank you for that. i want to to know, talk to tim about that because, tim, is 2024 a different time? is donald trump's, you know, campaign style different this time around? >> no, of course it's not. and he lost only by seven million votes and the popular vote. he had a lower percentage of the

total vote in 2016 than he did in 2020. but there were more voters went to the third party and the electoral college worked in his favor. donald trump is going to be donald trump. i just -- i have to like either laugh or cringe whenever i hear a nikki haley type go on fox to say that he should focus more on issues. is nikki haley that gullible? has she been in a coma? did she think we're stupid? donald trump is not going to focus on issues, donald trump is going to be donald trump. you saw that at the press conference yesterday. i think they think their path to victory is to lower kamala harris' favorability and attacks will include policy attacks and some gross personal attacks. i think that that is probably right is a strategic point. donald trump's got 46%, 47% in every poll, that's around where his number is going to be. he has to bring kamala harris down. i don't think any of the attacks he's tried so far seem to be

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52 past the hour, rising temperatures could have a major impact at the ballot box. a new poll exclusive to nbc news asks young voters in battleground states about the issues motivating them in this election. and at the top of the list, inflation, jobs, and abortion rights but survey also found that climate change could be more of a motivating factor, and actually getting young people to the polls. nbc news chase cain, you have spoken to a number of voters, what did you learn? >> reporter: what a lot of them said is they don't identify with either political party but the research from the voter project found something interesting, when they asked to distinguish between the top issue and the issue that's going to get them to the polls and vote, climate change was right up there with

abortion. climate change has become a deal breaker issue for many young americans. 40% of voters under 35 say they will only vote for a candidate who prioritizes climate action, something young voters have been saying since the last election. >> i don't consider myself a democrat or republican but i'm here because climate change is the most important priority. >> i want a livable future. i want green jobs. i currently go to george washington university and i'm worried about the job future. >> reporter: this new poll of registered voters in five swing states showed that across the political spectrum, super majorities of young voters demand or at least prefer candidates who prioritize climate change. >> yeah, there is enough voter support, not just among democrats, but also among republicans, to force politicians to lead on climate and not out of the goodness of their hearts but because it will be the easiest way for them to win elections. the burden is upon us as voters

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