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secure a major labor union endorsement? and a grim new milestone in gaza, and the story that pierced international headlines and the hearts of millions of viewers. let's do it. we are officially 80 days from the presidential election, and this week a very clear picture emerged of two very different candidates. one has spoken clearly and in great detail about her economic platform. searching, she is surging in the polls and she is whipping up the excitement of her party. the other is stoking panic among allies and taking his own campaign by simply, well,
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letting himself talk. that contrast was no more evident than the economic policies that kamala harris touted at a friday rally versus whatever trump was rambling about during two press conferences this week that were somehow supposed to be about the economy. watch. >> together, we will build what i call an opportunity economy. >> we are talking about a thing called the economy. they wanted to do a speech on the economy. >> and i will work to pass the first ever federal ban on price gouging on food. >> up 46% eggs, well. i think i'm going to take some of them back to my cottage and have a lot of fun, like the cheerios. i haven't seen cheerios in a long time. >> is president, i will attack and to take on the issue of the cost of healthcare. >> it is a communist system. you are going to be thrown into a system where everybody gets st healthcare. >> my administration will provide first-time homebuyers
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with $25,000 to help with the down payment on a new home. >> you have windmills all over the place, and you have birds. you want to see a bird cemetery, just go under a windmill. >> and voters clearly aren't buying trump's message. the new york times siena college poll showed that harris has taken over trump's lead in arizona by five points. she has also surpassed him in north carolina within the margin of error, and she has even narrowed his lead in states like georgia and nevada.t so, what is trump doing to try to save his flailing campaign? well he used his airtime to engage in personal attacks, calling harris crazy, biden stupid, and democratic vice presidential candidate tim walz a clown. republicans meanwhile are freaking out that trump's antics want only cost him the white house, but the house in the senate as well . according to politico, in a private call with lawmakers this week, house
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speaker mike johnson warned, quote, the numbers are ominous. one lawmaker told axioms, quote, if he does not have message discipline and he doesn't focus on the stuff we need to be focused on right now, it is not going to pass. it is not just congressional consumer sending the alarm. >> talking about what race kamala harris is. is not going to win talking about whether she is dumb. >> he was very disciplined leading up to the convention. in to go back to that place. >> donald trump in some ways can be his own worst enemy, so stay on track, hit her with her policies first, and make that your soul message. >> don't wander off. don't call her stupid and all kinds of names. stay on message. >> if you did not notice, those were people in the conservative movement. but it seems trump has not gotten the message. >> many of the allies who want you to win in movember they are current strategy isn't working, saying you need to stop with
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the personal attacks on kamala harris and deliver a more disciplined message. do you agree? >> i think i'm entitled to personal attacks. i don't have a lot of respect for her. >> now between the falling poll numbers and a campaign team that is failing to keep them on track, many are now wondering if a shakeup is imminent. he has already rehired one of the oldest most infamous supporters to advise the campaign senior leadership team. yes, former 2016 trump campaign manager corey lewandowski is coming back, the very same corey lewandowski who was actually fired from the campaign back in 2016. let's be clear my no amount of campaign shakeups and finger- pointing will change the fact that it is not actually the campaign that is the problem. it is the candidate. we have an all-star panel to kick things off for us. we have an analyst and special correspondent for vanity fair, and the cofounder of the lincoln project and the author of the book "running against the devil: a plot to save
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america from trump and democrats from themselves." i will start with you in this contrast that we saw from kamala harris and donald trump on the economy. it is funny how trump ran as a populist candidate back in 2016 and yet here harris is actually running populist economic policies while trump is ranting about windmills into taking cheerios back to his cottage. >> it is fascinating to watch the side-by-side of them together. that was a great -bcut your tea put together, because it really highlights just how off-track donald trump is. like, harris, she is still getting the legs under her as the top of the ticket, but she is out there delivering policies, talking about what matters to the american people. i love the irony that now that biden is out of the race, you have republicans like you showed saying you got to stick the policy, you have to stick to policies instead of these personal attacks. when you have project in 2025
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right there my which none of them want to talk about. they keep trying to redirect away from that. they don't seem to actually want to talk policy. they don't want him to talk t personal attacks against harris. i'm not really sure what the republicans want to do at this point, except hope that trump can somehow, again, pull out a miraculous win like in 2016, something he failed to do in 2020. they really have all their eggs in one basket right now, and they see the basket slowly plummeting to the ground and me hoping that trump will reach out to catch it. >> molly, what you make of this flailing response that we have seen from trump and republicans to harris' economic policy. they are incapable of having policy discussions. you have the title called, quote , kamunism. it's a sign that they are desperate. it raises the question how risky it is for them to try to engage in substitute policy conversations or policy
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proposals. >> right. this is a lesson a project 2025, which is the policy, which is that this policy is not popular, right? people don't want birth-control taken away. they don't want ivf regulated. these are not popular policies. i think the economic populism is popular, and harris and democrats have done that, too. i mean, look, the child tax credit was not trump's idea, right? that was from the democrats , and that was allowed to expire, because republicans voted against it. i think that economic populism has really caught fire, and honestly it did in 2016, too. but again, this whole idea, these people on television saying he has no message discipline, have they not been paying attention, of course he has no message discipline. that is a feature. >> i was going to say, expecting him to have some kind
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of discipline on anything is a bit far-fetched for a guy who has been on the political scene now for close to eight years. rick, your reaction to trump getting the 2016 band back together by hiring somebody like corey lewandowski, clearly a sign of desperation here. how long until trump fires his campaign comanagers, chris and susie? >> trump loves to torture people who work for him, so i think he's going to put corey lewandowski as he has is the campaign chairman, so chris and susie now work for corey lewandowski. the pollster has to now report to corey lewandowski. they have to go through corey the campaign chairman. he has taken over the central role in managing trump's effort. now corey lewandowski could not manage a used tire lot. this is a guy who has never won a statewide race, nevermind the presidential race. he is notorious for having a volcanic temper. he is notorious for a whole chain of sexual peccadilloes in
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various campaign settings. he was fired from the super pack because donors complained he was sexually harassing them. if you are donald trump, you have a big problem with women in the 2024 election, corey he lewandowski is not your go to guy. >> let me play for you guys just recently the personal attacks from trump. i mean, his allies on the hill are telling him to stay away from the personal attacks. we saw nikki haley sitting there and trying to talk about kamala harris' race is not the winning message that he thinks it is, but he just can't help himself. take a listen. >> have you heard her laugh? that is the laugh of a crazy person. that is the laugh of a crazy -- it is the laughable lunatic. >> i say that i am much better looking than her. i think i'm much better looking. much better looking. i am a better looking person then kamala harris. >> just a reminder, that was today, after a week of people telling him to stop and try,
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enough with the crazy, try to get back on track. this is not from a couple days ago. this is from a few hours ago. clearly donald trump did not get the messages. >> not at all. he's not going to is the thing. i think that it is mild how they are just wishing into the wind right now. they are hoping that donald trump somehow images to become someone who he absolutely is not at that point. they want him to stay on message. i want them to be disciplined. even if he was launching attacks specifically at harris, but doing it in a way that looks at things that they think she is vulnerable on. on immigration, on inflation ini the economy, that would be one thing. but he can't do one point at one time. and he thinks his political instincts are the best. that cheerios thing, i want to take them back to my cabin. anyone who has ever run a campaign knows okay, the best thing we can do is go, all this food we have here is going to be donated to a local food pantry for people in need who
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are hurt by the biden economy. said he saying i will take that home with me, why not, free food. what are you doing? is and things are terrible, and yes he believes because he won in 2016 he can do it overall. >> to be fed -- fair he said he would take effect as of fun with some serious. i know what he meant. ow the other thing is it almost seems like you could tell he was reading those prices were the first time. this is not a guy who is like, look at that, the price of eggs i'm being told is up 30%, because he doesn't know the price of eggs actually really is. he has always been a faux populist. there is one guy who is actually asking trump to basically stay on course. that is his running mate jd vance. he was actually asked by ma reporters yesterday as to whether or not he should or others are concerned, republicans should be concerned i trump's personal attacks. jd vance actually defended trump. he said, quote, i don't think the president needs to pave it.d
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again , we expect jd vance to be an acolyte, a yes-man, but e, this is pretty weird that he is still defending this. >> he knows that that is the job, to go out there and be a trump surrogate and defend the indefensible. that is what everyone in the end, if you are a trump supporter -- you know, i can't think about him without thinking about mike pence, who just gave it all for donald trump, and you know, he was rewarded with what, right? being threatened by trump supporters? and you know, you know, mike prince -- pence created the structure that evangelicals needed to put trump over the top, and his reward was nothing. so as you see, you know, people go, you know, they just keep making this mistake, and it like, it is shakespearian, you know. >> rick, another highlight from this week that just shows is trump's incapacity of change,
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his disrespect for our veterans. trump hosted an event at bedminster thursday. he was praising miriam adelson, a major republican donor, who he bestowed the presidential medal of freedom in 2018 to. here is what he had to say about how important that is compared to the other. >> that is the highest award you can get as a civilian. it is the equivalent of the congressional medal of honor, but the civilian version. it's actually much better, because everyone gets the congressional medal of honor. the soldiers, they are either so in very bad shape because they have been hit many times by bullets, or they are dead. >> should not be a surprise to anyone who has followed donald trump or the last several years. it was a moment of truth for him. he was speaking from the heart, and we have seen how he has attacked veterans like john mccain, a retired lieutenant
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colonel alexander vindman, and other goldstar family members. but this is a pretty new low even for somebody like donald trump. >> i recall in 2020 when he attacked the parents of -- i recall when he attacked john mccain. i recall when the stories broke about trump calling veterans suckers and losers. there is an endless pattern of donald trump's utter contempt for our military. there is an endless pattern of trump's hideous degree of just spleen and hatred for them, because he thinks they are desperate to be in the military because of their socioeconomic circumstances. he thinks it is like a welfare program that they should be ashamed of. donald trump's relationship to the u.s. military has long been one where he thinks that his luster makes him a leader. he a joked about one time, always wanting to get the purple heart. it's pretty easy, donald. you could have gotten the purple heart if you had not been a draft dodger during the vietnam war were 58,000 american men sacrificed their
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lives. donald trump spent his time during the vietnam war, as he racked around later, chasing women around new york. this is a guy who is beyond contemptuous. all the clichis that the republicans used it to try to put out there about all the democrats are anti-military and anti-defense, they have been flipped on their head. it is vice president harris and joe biden who honor the military. it is donald trump with utter contempt for them. >> not to mention he has also gone after generals who have served in the military. he went after mark miller at the time, the chair coaches of staff basically saying he was a traitor and suggesting that he deserved the death penalty for going after, going around donald trump's back when he was president. store mexico, we have a lot more to discuss. next, how he turned when labor leaders praise and outright fury, potentially helping kamala harris score a major union endorsement. we will tell you about that. treat cancer, fda-approved for 17 types of cancer.
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this republican convention, and that is unprecedented. you can have whatever opinion you want, but one thing is clear, president trump is a candidate who is not afraid of hearing from new, loud, and often critical voices. >> sean o'brien, president of teamsters, the largest union in this country with support and somewhat delusional words at donald trump's rnc, but the tables seem to be turning. during trump's, and i use this term loosely , interview with elon musk on monday, the ex- president praised the tech ceo for firing workers who tried to organize and talked about getting rid of employees who go on strike. o'brien then told to go playbook, quote, firing workers for organizing, striking, and exercising their right as americans is economic terrorism. pressure is mounting on the
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union to endorse a presidential candidate. last night the harris campaign confirmed that the vice president has accepted an offer to meet with the teamsters union. a date has yet to be set for that meeting, but earlier this week the teamsters black caucus broke with their parent union by publicly endorsing vice president harris. with me now, james, chairman of the teamsters national black caucus. it's great to have you on the show thank you for joining us. let's start with next week. the washington post is reporting that the teamsters president o'brien will not be speaking at the dnc, but the union will have a presence there . we know that o'brien did request a speaking slot, but has yet to receive a written response from the dnc. what can you tell us about what this teamsters representation might look at, look like at the dnc. >> i'm not totally sure what their representation will look like, but i know that there are
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leaders for the country and delegates, and it's a lot of delicates for here is that our in the leadership in the teamsters union. >> trump's comments on monday that i just kind of mentioned, praising elon musk for firing workers, it really comes as, you know, a slap in the face of o'brien, doesn't it? this was a guy was promoting and defending trump at the rnc, and he turned around and basically insulted those very same workers. >> i wrote a letter on january 31 reminding our leadership who this man was, and he actually proved me right, that he hasn't changed. he claimed that he changed, when he met with our leadership in washington, d.c. back in february, but like i say, i reminded them in the letter on the 31st of january that this man is no friend of labor
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unions, and he will tell anybody anything that he thinks they want to hear that he can count on them for a vote. >> what impact do you think your caucuses decision to break away from the parent union and actually endorse vice president harris has had on o'brien and others in the teamsters union leadership? we know he has said that they should have a decision on the candidate after the dnc next week, but what are you anticipating? how has it changed the debate inside the organization? >> i wouldn't say that we broke ranks. we wasn't involved in the decision-making. we wasn't involved at the roundtables. you know, as i stated earlier this week, we did not defy the union. we respect them, but no one asked us not to make an endorsement or to make an endorsement. we decided to make that on our own, and after we made our
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endorsement, multiple local unions also endorsed the harris campaign, and during counsel last night, endorsed the harris campaign. we must remember, brothers and sisters, you must know your power. we know what our power is. we know our power is in the street, knocking on doors, helping our coworkers, helping our family members, and talking to the community. i hope more local leaders taken a stand, sms already have, and on a personal facebook page, leaders of local unions have come out saying they support the harris campaign personally. >> thank you so much for joining us. we greatly appreciate your time. we look forward to talking to you again in the weeks and months ahead. up next, trump's interview with musk isn't just hurting him politically. they could actually bring a legal headache to the former president. find out why, next.
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we talked a bit about this before the break, how elon musk and donald trump's now infamous chat on x this week was actually billed as an interview , if you can believe it. take a listen. >> i'm honored to have this conversation. i want to emphasize it's a conversation. and it's really intended to just get a feel for what donald trump is just like in a conversation. so it's hard to catch a vibe about someone if you just don't hear them talk in a normal way. when, you know, when there is an adversarial interview, like, no one's themselves in adversarial interview. so, and this is really aimed at kind of open-minded, independent voters, who are just trying to make up their mind. >> does that strike you as a rather friendly and not exactly impartial introduction?
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because i've got to say you are not alone. the democratic pack is now urging that the so-called interview amounted to a, quote, virtual campaign event for trump financial -- financed by x which would be in violation of federal law. the pack in citizens united filed a complaint with the fec this week, calling for an immediate investigation, arguing that it violated the ban on giving and receiving corporate contributions, because that her ex spent, quote, considerable resources to host an event to expressly advocate for trump and was not entitled to the press exemption for that event. my panel is back with me. let me get your thoughts on this, with the points laid out in this violent against trump, his campaign treasurer, and x, and a citizen united argues it was a campaign contribution. what is the significance of that kind of accusation in the context of this event? >> i think that it is an entirely fair accusation at this point. consider the fact that that
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intro you played, who among us has ever thought of themselves, you know who i have not heard her speak enough to make up my mind? donald trump. that is insane. that is why old to me that that could ever be the premise of your conversation with him. so, the fact that it was not an adversarial interview, as he said, really does undercut the idea that this could in any way be considered a press interview. no, this was a, basically, an online rally, that many hundreds of people at least listened in to. i know that trump linked to decide a number that was millions, but that's how many views, the tweet link, but they only had maybe 1000 people listening to it. i'm fact, i am sure more people are listening to us talk to us now instead of listening to it. it was the right move to file this with the fcc, because yes, donald trump benefited substantially from this, from
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this event, and it should be looked into by the fec at this point. >> molly, the citizens united president said in a statement that the trump-musk event on x, quote, wasn't just an incoherent diatribe of lies marred by technical difficulties, it was a blatantly illegal corporate contribution to donald trump's campaign. do you agree with that? does that analysis resonate with you? >> yeah. i also think that for the sake of democracy, it is really important that things are not legal, you know, there is this long-held belief with donald trump that you should let him get away with things, right? that is what we see. we have seen him just continuously flout laws and get away with things. remember how hilarious the hatch act was considered in the white house. you know, the whole idea of, you know, one of the reasons why american democracy is in
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such a precarious place at this moment is because you have one of the two political parties who does not respect democratic norms right now. so that is how we got here. the little things like this, which trump would usually be able to skate on like everything else, really are sort of, these are the building blocks of how we keep america, you know, american democracy together. so i think it is actually really important. remember, like, one of the things that is most important here is sort of sunshine and as much transparency as possible. these are the things that are going to save us. >> could this filing in some way shift how the trump campaign and its richest fan boy conduct themselves going forward, or will they continue to operate with this kind of lawless approach that they, you know, that they have proven? >> i mean it should, but it won't. the fec is not actually considered on the very bleeding edge of law enforcement speed
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and consequence. i will say one other thing, though. elon musk also has another layer of exposure, and i haven't had a chance to read this filing yet, but he is also the major funder and the head of a super pack of 527 super pack that is seeking to give donald trump reelected. i help run a super pack. i can't call the harris campaign and coordinate with them. i can't talk to them about what we are going to do and what they are going to do. this is a guy who runs and finds a super pack for donald trump sitting in the room with him where they are engaged in campaign communication. this wasn't like donald trump, tell us your opinions about building codes or, you know, any other subject. it was a campaign event. i think elon musk may have exposure here coming and going. and at the minimum, they should have considered this an in-kind contribution from elon musk's company, x, twitter, whatever you -- i'm going to call it
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twitter until i die. they should consider that an in- kind contribution, but they are not going to change. they are going to do anything different. they have an utter contempt to the law when it applies to them , and donald trump's pattern of that has gone on for 50 years now. >> i have one more for you, this interesting development that really could put elon musk and more legal trouble, and it has to do with something that happened overseas. you've got this chechen warlord in russia who has invited elon musk to visit, and this was after he was filmed behind the wheel of a tesla cyber truck, mounted with a machine gun, which he claims that he actually received from elon musk. to be clear to our viewers, this leader has been sanctioned by the u.s. government over gross human rights violations. not a great look for elon musk to say the least. where would this leave elon musk if this was in fact a gift from musk to this chechen
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warlord? >> he is, you cannot give gifts or items of consequence, is the legal term if i recall, you can't give gifts, you can't give money, you can't support, you can't provide a $100,000 in cell camino cyber trucks to a warlord who is a guy who is sanctioned who has been engaged in war crimes, who is universally considered by every human being on earth who doesn't like to kiss putin's asked to be a monster. this is a baffling one to me. this is like a car company in the 70s giving pol pot a brand- new pickup truck or something. it's crazy. i think musk, because we know that all tesla vehicles can be remotely disabled, he should be switching this thing off right now and turn it into a break. he could do it today right now, and he should. >> i have to say, i have not
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been to chechnya, but i'm going to go on a limb here and say i don't think there is a tesla dealership in chechnya, so i do not think he walked in and said i will take this cyber truck with the machine gun on the top, but then again i don't know. i don't know. thank you as always. great to have you on. up next, some of the most heart wrenching stories from gaza, and the pressing question for accountability. we will tell you about it. now the world's smallest and thinnest sensor sends your glucose levels directly to your smartphone. manage your diabetes with more confidence and lower your a1c. the #1 cgm prescribed in the u.s. try it for free at freestylelibre.us (vo) you've got your sunday obsession the #1 cgm prescribed and we got you now with verizon, get nfl sunday ticket from youtube tv on us... and a great deal on galaxy z fold6...
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disturbing. last tuesday, israel's channel 12 release daily surveillance video that appeared to show is really soldiers allegedly sexually assaulting a palestinian prisoner in a detention center camp outside of gaza. nbc news has not yet independently confirmed details of the reported abuse, or if the video circulating was indeed of that incident, but the doctor who treated the prisoner told them that he suffered from, quote, a ruptured bowel, a severe injury to his , lung damage and broken ribs. the report of a gruesome sexual assault against palestinian prisoner at the hands of israeli prison guards barely received any coverage in western media. 4 days later, we saw one of the deadliest and most horrific attacks on gaza in the past 10 months. in the early hours of august 10 , as many palestinians were gathered for morning prayers, three israeli missiles tore through a school turned shelter that housed more than 2000
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palestinian refugees. that strike killed more than 100 people and injured dozens. the aftermath captured by an nbc news crew inside gaza. witnesses recounted this horrific sight of body parts and limbs wherever they turned, and it was up to their loved ones to actually collect their body parts and place them in plastic bags. after the strike, the israeli military said in a statement, quote, at least 19 hamas and islamic terrorists were eliminated. but according to an initial investigation by the geneva- based human rights organization which is on the ground in gaza, there were not any military operations or combat that the school. in venice tuesday another heartbreaking story emerged. he began as an evacuee from north gaza left the apartment where he and his family were sheltering, even in the midst of war he managed to find something to be happy about and thankful for. his wife, a pharmacist i had just given birth 4 days earlier
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to twins. recounting his experience to nbc news, the new father said while he was out picking up his children's birth certificates, a shelf truck the apartment just minutes later, and his wife, two babies, and mother-in-law were all killed. watch. >> [ speaking in a global language ] [ speaking in a global language ] [ speaking in a global language ]
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>> the israeli military told nbc news, quote, details of the incident as published are not currently to the idf and reiterated past statements that it, quote, employs various measures to minimize harm to civilians. in response to the horrific events of the past royalties, the biden administration's response has been his usual muted regarding the alleged prisoner abuse, the state department spokesperson matthew miller called it, well, deeply concerning and urged israel to investigate. after the brutal strike on the school turned shelter, again one of the deadliest attacks in the war, the administration responded with what is becoming a familiar refrain. that it is deeply concerned. again, urging israel to take measures to, quote, minimize civilian harm. when asked about the deaths of the newborn twins and their mother, the state department deputy spokesperson said he did
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not have any specific information on it, and he deferred to israel once again. to top it all off, senior u.s. officials who spoke to the new york times with this week says israel has achieved all that it can militarily and gaza, and that continued bombings are only increasing risks to civilians while the possibility of further weakening hamas has diminished. despite this increased risk to civilians, despite seeing the alleged prisoner abuse, despite the killing of innocent children, babies, can you guess what the biden-harris administration did? on wednesday, the administration approved a $20 billion weapons deal for israel. this weapons sale will be delivered in 2026, but it helps israel increase its military capabilities in the long run. it guarantees a weapons stockpile that the u.s. has helped israel grow for decades, regardless of which administration is in office, the current prime minister in israel is, or who is running the gaza strip. deals like this indicate that
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the u.s. may have no intention of holding israel accountable for what it has done, giving it tacit permission to do it again in the future. actions speak louder than words, and over and over again, the biden-harris administration has shown us that deeply concerned means absolutely nothing. instead of holding israel accountable for what critics have labeled as a genocide of palestinians in gaza, the u.s. continues to award israel with weapons deals and diplomatic cover. after the break i will be joined by steve sosebee, who had a direct state and helping out those innocent newborn twins before they were killed. his insights, coming up next. known as a passionate artist. known for loving the outdoors. known for getting everyone together. no one wants to be known for cancer, but a treatment can be.
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before the break i told you about mohammed -- a widower in gaza whose wife, mother-in-law, and 4-day-old twins were killed this week in an israeli airstrike pick a few months ago, heel palestine, a nonprofit organization, heard that his wife needed medical assistance and stepped in to make sure that she had a healthy pregnancy and gave birth in a safe location. with us now, the executive director of heel palestine thomas steve sosebee. you have been in direct contact with the family, steve. thank you for coming back on the show. as i mentioned your organization looked after mohammed's family throughout the last three months of his wife's pregnancy. what kind of help that they need, and where were they
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staying? how close was your team to this family throughout the last several months? >> while dr. tamana was one of the 1.9 million palestinians who had been displaced. she fled to north and reached out to us through a volunteer in ohio who asked us if we could help her. of course that we were able to and happy to do that. she was pregnant with twins and she did not have any contacts in the south, did not have any place to stay, was quite concerned about finding a place to deliver her babies, because most of the hospitals have been destroyed or are not functioning, as everyone knows. we were quite honored and able to be able to provide her some support. we connected her to a lactation specialist in the united states who gave her online support. we provided contacts with the imc field hospital. we have a field hospital in gaza. it was not near where she was at, but we connected her to the city hospital where she was able to give safe delivery, and we also supported her with food
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, and formula milk for her babies. she was, she reached out to us the day she was killed, actually before she was killed. she sent a message of thanks to our staff in gaza who were supporting her and how happy she was that she was able to give safe birth to these children. she is one of thousands of pregnant women in gaza who every month are searching for a safe delivery location. the health sector has been decimated. her two babies are among hundreds of babies under the age of 1 have been killed in gaza since last october. it is as tragic and terrible as this story is, unfortunately it is all too common in the gaza strip. >> it is all too common, and i wanted to ask you a little bit about what it is like for you and others. i mean, i know you are speaking to many palestinians in gaza on a daily basis. this is not the first time you have received traumatic and devastating news like this. tell us a bit more about your own experience of waking up to the horrors of what we are
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seeing in gaza, and losing people that you care about or that you are involved with on a regular basis. >> i have been working in gaza since 1988. i have had the honor and privilege of serving the health sector there and serving the gazan people, treating thousands of their kids either by sending medical teams in from all over the world are bringing hundreds of gazan children out, we have 17 injured gazan children in the united states right now, and it is extremely, extremely, it is hard to really describe it in the english linkage or any language, depressing, frustrating, every aspect, every word you can come up with to see innocent children day after day being killed. the whole international community is quite aware of the genocide that is going on these days in gaza, and yet is doing nothing about it. you mentioned earlier that our government is going to provide another $20 billion worth of weapons and that underscores the fact that people don't hold the lives of children in gaza
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to the same level that they do any other child in the world, otherwise this continued genocide would not be going on right now, and going on with our support as americans. it is just unbelievable. it is undescribable. for me as a humanitarian worker serving the gazan people on a humanitarian level, we are looking for any light of hope. we are looking for any sign of this is going to end and that there will be some sense of humanity and international law being applied in gaza. >> let me ask you about the american government for a moment. obviously the palestinian to care for and the civilians and the children, you are hearing these first-hand accounts. you have been doing it for as you said decades in various capacities. your thoughts as you saw the biden administration announced $20 billion of weapons to go to israel just this week, in a week that i highlighted had all of these horrific incidents. >> i'm ashamed. i'm ashamed as an american. our country is better than that. i don't think any american i've ever met in my entire life
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reports the killing of innocent children, from whatever religion, from whatever nationality, from whatever background, and yet our government continues to support and provide the weapons that are killing over 15,000, 16,000 children out in gaza .2% of the population of children in gaza have been killed since last october, and is not counting the number of kids who died from birth defects, from the lack of clean water, from the lack of shelter, from the lack of food, from the lack of medication that is being denied entry into the gaza strip. the numbers are much higher than that, and our government is complicit. not only complicit, but directly responsible for it. i'm ashamed as an american as all americans should be, regardless whether you are a liberal or conservative, publican, democrat, independent, or any background. you should be ashamed over the policy of your government and the role it has played in gaza right now. >> simply saying that you are deeply concerned by it and then hitting israel investigate itself is simply unacceptable. steve, thank you so much for your time. thank you for the work you and your organization are doing on
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the ground in gaza to help people. >> thank you. a new hour of ayman starts after a quick break. ♪ [suspenseful music] trains. [whoosh] ♪ trains that sense what isn't on the schedule. ♪ trains that use the power of dell ai and intel. ♪ to see hundreds of miles of tracks. ♪ [vroom] [train horn] [buzz] clearing the way, [whoosh] so you arrive exactly where you belong.
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