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senator amy klobuchar, a close ally of kamala harris and tim walz and she is coming up first. plus, we will show you my behind-the-scenes trip through the convention hall this week and i may or may not have taken a shot with illinois governor j.b. pritzker before i left chicago. also, a top architecture project of 2025 on caught on camera talking about his cozy relationship with donald trump. what he said and why it should concern us all. and later, you might know them as deputy national security adviser kate harper, actors of westland fame are here in studio for a conversation i have been looking forward to for a very long time. >> [ music ] okay, the democratic national convention kicks off tomorrow in chicago, and over the next four days, politicians, presidents, and

maybe even some pop stars, we will see, will come together to celebrate the legacy of joe biden, and of course, the candidacy of kamala harris and tim walz. i think it is safe to say there is one guy out there who is really going to hate all of that, because if there's one thing donald trump loves above anything else, it is attention, and it doesn't even have to be positive attention. trump is someone who takes the phrase all press is good press quite literally. this is a guy who put his own mug shot on t-shirts and coffee cup, for god's sake. he simply likes to be the focus, we have seen that over and over again for years. i mean, he has shown a willingness to do some wild, offensive, and yes, deeply weird things in order to hold onto it. but now, perhaps for the first time in his political career, donald trump is losing the battle for attention, and he is losing it because kamala harris is beating him at his own game. this afternoon, harris and walz

will speak to supporters in pennsylvania, if they say anything, we will bring it to you. they're going through the state on their way to chicago, and that visit will cap four straight weeks of packed rallies and crowds, campaign events, and swing states across the country. in just one month's time, harris and walz have become the hot ticket. they have also made up a significant ground in swing states, even pulling ahead in arizona, putting nevada back in play. and they have also drummed up more excitement than the party has felt for some time. take it from the national finance chair for the dnc who told nbc news, "a credential to get into the chicago democratic national convention is a hotter ticket than a 12 taylor swift concert." now, that dynamic is very clearly driving trump insane, so he is trying to work his way back into the limelight by tapping into his old bag of tricks, he only has one bag of tricks. a racist comment here, a crazy

conspiracy there, and of course, grabbing a microphone and camera and doing whatever this is. >> what happened to biden? i was running against biden, all the sudden i am running again somebody else. i said who am i running against? harris. who is harris? have you heard her laugh? that is the lap of a crazy person. it is the laugh of a lunatic. i am much better looking than her. she actually called me weird but i'm a big fan of electricity. you want to see a bird cemetery, just go under a windmill, you will see thousands of birds dead. i love the playback controls you have nowadays. they say he was rambling, i don't ramble, i am a really smart guy. >> the was a lot packed in there, but the problem with trump's strategy to regain the spotlight, if it isn't obvious, is basically this. every time he opens his mouth at these rallies and press conferences, it kind of sounds boring, he looks small, and other times, he looks like he is completely unraveling. the best case scenario is boring and small, i guess.

in past elections, whatever he thought was demagoguery, and there was a lot of it, it was kind of hard to look away. there was the star, eerie predictability around him, that is no longer the case. now it is just reruns. it is boring and small and kind of sad. now harris and tim walz have stolen the show, and everything they are doing right now, harris and walz are shrinking him down to the aging, confused, boring, rambling donald trump who he really is. they're holding the huge rallies, generating the crowds and the headlines, which makes him seem small. they're putting out funny press releases, which makes him seem small, and there calling him weird, because he deserves it, which also makes him seem small. and all the joy and excitement and the celebration at the democratic convention we will see over the next four days, starting tomorrow, will make him seem even smaller, that will drive him crazy. joining me now is democratic

senator amy klobuchar of minnesota. it is so great to see you. i mentioned through the course of this show -- great to see you, and truly seems to me like trump is losing the battle for attention and to harris and walz, and it is kind of driving him nuts. but how do you see it? >> completely, i loved your synopsis there, because i was thinking he is talking bird cemetery is and they are in brat summer. he is out there winding around that his golf club, talking about claiming credit for things he never did, like bringing down the insulin prices, when in fact it was joe biden and kamala harris that put that cap in place. and there on a bus tour throughout pennsylvania. you would think what she has done in 21 days, it is phenomenal. since the nomination, has raised over $300 million, has made the convention of the

hottest thing ever. i have had the same experience, text after text, are there tickets left, are there hotel rooms? she has picked this extraordinary vice president, filled arenas with 15,000 people, and i just love a good bus trip on a way to a convention. i was remembering the clinton campaign, the obama campaign, it just creates this momentum, and it is not just the states we refocused on before, it is also now arizona she is surging in and georgia she is doing well in, in addition to the blue wall states of pennsylvania and michigan and wisconsin. it is just incredible. nevada. just what we are seeing across the country is phenomenal. >> no question. i saw governor pritzker when i was in chicago and he tells me donors are calling him to try to get the money, which as you know, is not always how it goes. let me ask you a little about messaging because you have actually been talking to people across the state, across the

country for years, you know what works and doesn't work. for a long time, the messaging was really focused around the threat trump poses, and there is no doubt, he poses a threat to the rule of law, to women's rights, to freedom, to many, many things. but there is a shift now to painting him as weird and small and boring. what you make of that? is that a better political argument? >> i think the fax speak for themselves, because people are just tired of seeing this a rerun of him saying these naughty things, they don't want to hear them again, and then the words that use to represent the republican party, rule of law, they have bins slept on their heads. there are still republicans out there that still believe that, and any of them, i would predict, would end up voting for vice president harris, but those words are now our words, and you are seeing it in the themes for the convention. you have got for the people, that is about putting the people first, but it is also about democracy. you have got freedoms where

donald trump has said he is probably the person responsible for overturning roe v. wade, and democrats are standing up for freedom and freedom to make your own decisions. you have got kamala harris, when that debate happens, coming up in september, on one side, a former prosecutor who has put murderers in jail, who believes in the rule of law. then you have donald trump with his over 100 indictments, and what is it, 34 felony convictions. this is a clear contrast where they have turned the words and the meaning of their party on its head, and i think it is all just coming in and he just cannot believe this is happening and he brought that party to that point, we know that. and he also cannot believe -- he is obsessed with crowd size and this is not going well for him. >> it's not, he has had some gaps in his crowd sizes. i want to reference, we were just showing the vice president

and her husband doug at joint base andrews, getting on the plane to meet the bus in pennsylvania. let me ask you about president biden, because this convention is of course about the top of the ticket, it is also about honoring the legacy of joe biden, his presidency, his commitment to public service. you have known him a long time, you have worked closely with him. i want to ask you about, what do you think the hall is going to be like tomorrow night when he speaks customer >> there is going to be so much love for joe biden, there are going to be tears of joy when he walks into that call. and what he has done -- and i love that the major focus of this is going to be on democracy, he literally saved our democracy in the u.s. he beat donald trump. he was sworn in, as you know, i was there. and there are some people saying put it in a bunker after the

insurrection. and joe biden says no, we are going to be out there on that platform that they first invaded, we don't care if we have windows that aren't real or if we have to spray paint the pillars, we are going to be out there, we are going to take back that platform. so, on monday night, you're going to hear him talk about that democracy that he has upheld. he has upheld it with voting rights, he has upheld it with his fight to save ukraine and stand up for democracy. he has fought for it with how he has done things for the people, which is a theme of that night, and i just think everyone is just going to want to give him a big hug and i can't wait to hear his speech. ask he is going to be hugging a lot of people, i think. i heard that staff are coming in, alumni are coming in, of course. you are also very close to vice president harris, he worked closely with her, you know her personally. she had a much shorter runway to prepare for all of this, which is very hard, but i actually think it has been good for her. i mean, she has had to be decisive, fearless, what do you

think? >> yeah, those qualities, and i would say fearless is a great adjective, that have always been kamala harris. when you see her cross- examining the supreme court nominees that donald trump put on the bench that overturned roe v. wade, she had their number. and she has always been fearless, from the attorney general, biggest attorney general's office in the country when she ran that office in california, but now you are seeing those decision-making skills. there are so many good candidates for vice president, there is absolutely no doubt about them, any of those top people would have served with such honor and brought a lot to the ticket, but she had to make the decision and she couldn't wait a week. it was like speed dating. and she made a decision that i would say was unorthodox, choosing my friend tim walz, the governor of minnesota, and it has worked incredibly well. she made a got decision based on their chemistry, based on the fact -- what he had done in his life, and i think you are

seeing the results of that. so, that is one big decision she had to make, as well as many others, keeping dylan and many of the great people from the biden campaign, and then adding in a few new people. you know what that's like, having been involved in campaigns. that alone is a hard thing, but she has done it with grace and with force and you can see the results in the polls, in the numbers, and just in the momentum we are seeing, and excitement. >> no question. i know we will be talking to you because we always love to hear what senator amy klobuchar thinks and what is going on over the course of our coverage this week. thanks for joining me today, really appreciate it. and coming up, mary mccormack of westland fame are going to be here in studio. kamala harris is about to land in pittsburgh. there is so much happening, we are going to talk about all of it. at first, with the dnc kicking off tomorrow, i traveled to chicago to get an

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i came to bayview hunter's point, where there was only one pediatrician to serve more than 10,000 children. daniel lurie said, i'm going to help. we opened a clinic for our most vulnerable children. i have worked shoulder to shoulder with him as we have brought solutions where people thought the problem was unsolvable. daniel doesn't take excuses. he holds himself accountable. and i know that he can do it for the city of san francisco. there has not been a democratic convention hall full of delegates, politicians, walloons, celebrities, all of the things for eight years,

because of covid-19. this year is going to feel different people, new in some ways, and not just because of the change at the top of the ticket. this week, i went to chicago and got a sneak peek of what is in store from the people responsible for pulling off what is the biggest show in politics. >> [ music ] >> there is always a story that conventions are trying to tell, what is the story of the convention this week? >> you know, i think the story is about where joe biden started, you know? he started us with we are going to claim the soul of this nation. that is, to me, the underlining story of this, we are going to continue to work in the biden- harrison ministration, we are certainly going to pivot to the future as we look at harris- walz, but i think our anchor and our north star was where he started us. >> as the northstar, the sitting president, how will he

be honored? >> it would hard to be a convention that wasn't reflective of joe biden because joe biden represents everything the democratic party is about, fairness, decency, american leadership, these are things joe biden has fought for his entire career, and those are the values the democratic party is going to put on display in chicago next week. >> you both have had a challenging task, i think it is fair to say, because the top of the ticket changed just a few weeks ago, and now vice president harris is on the top of the ticket, she selected governor walz to be her running mate. how have you had to change your planning and programming for the convention? >> you know, one of the things that i think we should do and we have an obligation to do is to introduce her and governor walz to the american people in a way that they probably haven't seen her but, so it gave us the opportunity. it wasn't as hard as people thought it was, i think it was probably more of a shock to people, but she was always built into this convention from

the beginning to end, so what we really had to do was change names, we had to start looking at what she believed in. we had the coats, which we are all excited about, we will introduce her husband, we will see his family, so those are the things that we will see differently. >> one of the parts of her that i think people have seen in recent weeks is our connection to her story. alpha kappa alpha, one of the divine 9, they're very supportive and proud of her, she is very proud to be a member. are we going to see some excited sorority sisters next week restaurant >> you will see a lot of pink and green. >> you are an a.k.a. as well? x yes, i am. we plan to devote a special day and section to the divine 9, because they have been a part of her history, a part of her journey, so you will see all the colors of all the sororities and fraternities come together. >> there are a lot of things that people get excited about in conventions, including hollywood and singer's. are we going to see -- i mean,

beyonce said that kamala harris could use her music. could we see beyonce next week? >> well, you know, i think anything could be a surprise, even to us sometimes. we have seen a lot of that on social media, but you know, we do have a lot of entertainers who have expressed interest, but we also have a lot of people that are just coming because they believe in this ticket, they believe in what we stand for. >> [ music ] so, we are backstage, this is backstage at the convention. what is happening behind the scenes at a convention? what everybody is seeing on camera, speakers giving big speeches, what is going on behind the scenes? >> so, all those speakers who come out and nail their lawless speeches are back here first, we have a writers room where they can work with their speechwriter to fine-tune the details. we have got hair and makeup.

>> the writers room is a bunch of speechwriters who come in and they help people find tune. sometimes people are nervous. sometimes they want to change their whole speech. >> yes. it is cliche to say it is the super bowl of something, but this is the super bowl for speechwriters. >> [ music ] >> this is the convention floor. and what are we walking out to right now? >> we are walking out to the first of its kind creator platform. just because we are going back to an in person convention doesn't mean we are going back to the same old way of doing everything. >> so, this stage has never existed before in this form? what is going to happen here? >> this is the front row seat for content creators to cover our convention. we know the number one search engine for gen z is tiktok, so we are going to be welcoming all of our traditional media friends, and you can see the positions for them all over the hall here, but we also have our 200+ credentialed content creators.

they're going to be having the opportunity to come up here and create and broadcast their content to americans right where they are, because we know so many people, especially young people, they're not necessarily watching television or reading a newspaper, a trusted voice as they turn to for their news and information folks online, on youtube and tiktok and instagram, so we are bringing them here. >> is behind us here are some balloons. the balloons are all going to go up into the ceiling, then they will be dropped down on thursday. >> so many spoilers, jen, g's. x you had me wondering, what are all those balloons back there? >> we are bringing creators, but we have got to honor some of the time-honored traditions. >> [ music ] governor pritzker, so great to see you, thank you for taking the time on convention east. last time i was here in chicago with you, we sat down, this was last fall, we talked about the convention. one of the big reasons it is in chicago is because of your

advocacy, so how are you feeling? it is finally about to start. >> we have been planning for a year and a quarter since we were awarded the convention. we are ready, the city is energized and ready to go. we have got tens of thousands of people arriving for the convention, even now, so we are so excited. >> it feels like there is a lot of energy around this ticket, vice president harris, governor walz, how are you feeling that here in chicago and as we anticipate the start of the convention? >> i have to say just the electricity, i mean, the young people in particular who have come out and said i want to volunteer, i want to be involved. >> you have known governor walz, he is a fellow midwestern governor, you have that in common. what do you hope the country sees about tim walz? >> i think the first thing that is very noticeable about him, and it is true, he has got a big heart, he genuinely cares

about people. you are watching him operate, and what he has done in minnesota for young people, what he has done to stand up for the values of every day minnesotans, he is going to bring that to america. >> there has been a lot of reporting about protests, the potential for tens of thousands of protesters. are you anticipating that number coming to chicago? >> i don't think that number, but we expected protesters. it has been a year and a quarter of truly planning for this across the city of chicago. i want to remind you that every level of law enforcement is involved here, all the way from the secret service to the fbi to the sheriff to the cpd. so, it is going to be a safe convection. >> i would expect you're going to speak next week sometime, when can we expect to hear from you? >> tuesday night prime time, i get an opportunity to tell people about illinois, and more importantly, the ticket and why we are also excited about kamala harris and tim walz. >> [ music ] that did not taste good, i

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key authors, that guy. someone who could be white house chief of staff during a second trump term. well, this week, we watched him explain to undercover reporters that he is personally overseeing the drafting of hundreds of executive orders, regulations, and memos to help make project 2025's radical goals a reality. and while trump and his allies claim they know nothing about project 2025, he managed to undermine that claim at literally every turn. >> i don't know what it is, it's project 2025, he is involved in project -- and then they read some of the things and they are extreme, i mean, they're seriously extreme. >> it is running against the brand, he is not running against any people. he is not running against any institutions. it is interesting, he is in fact not even opposing himself to a particular policy. >> project 2025 is not affiliated with the trump campaign. >> i think it is transformative for sure.

[ inaudible ] project 2025 has absolutely nothing to do with the past, present, or future. president trump and president trump alone will make his own policies. >> if it is someone like miller and all the stuff gets plugged right in -- >> the joining me now is democratic congressman dan goldman of new york. congressman, it's great to see you, thank you so much for joining me. i wanted to start by asking you to give us your reaction to that undercover video, that's what that was of rust, and that side-by-side of trump allies trying to distance themselves from project 2025. >> yeah, it's so telling and private, it's clear that this is all part of the trump operation. you don't have to look far, russ was the office of management and budget director under donald trump. another leader of project 2025

was donald trump's personnel manager. dan just left, even though he was a big part of trump's exoneration. and let's not forget, this is called project 2025. it is not called project 2029, it is not called project of the future. donald trump has been the clear presumptive nominee since january 7th, 2021. and we all know that this is exactly what they have been gearing up for, they have many people they want to plug into the trump organization, there has been tremendous coordination behind-the-scenes. donald trump realizes that it is apolitical -- [ inaudible ] but he can run as far as he wants, and project 2025 is going to follow him. >> no question, russ vought is on his short list to be chief

of staff, so the american people know what is going on here. let me ask you, there is a lot to talk about with project 2025, you will continue to do it, but kamala harris and tim walz are about to embark on this bus tour through pennsylvania, they are kicking it off today, there is so much energy around this campaign. i mean, it felt for so long like a big part of the democratic message was anti- tran20, anti-donald trump, obviously that is still core, but does it feel like to you this election is becoming more about voting for something rather than just voting against something? >> yes, and i think that is part of the energy and vision that kamala harris has brought, and joe biden has been a historically oppressive president. but the message he had was we need to finish this job and the danger is donald trump if not. now, we really have a messenger in kamala harris who can promote this vision of the future, where we are working in government for the american people, we are

trying to lower costs, we are trying to give people the opportunity to achieve the american dream as opposed to donald trump and project 2025, which wants to go back to the 1950s and take away our rights and freedoms. and limit immigration and limit the great melting pot that is this country. and it's basically a forward- looking vision versus a progressive vision that donald trump has. >> some of it is even going back to the 1890s, even before the 1950s, believe it or not. before i let you go, i have to ask you, house republicans led by your colleague congressman james comer, i know one of your favorites, launched an investigation this week and to governor tim walz's connections to china. what you make of this latest attempt to attack the harris- walz ticket? i don't think it is going to stick, but what you make of all of it? >> it will probably stick as well as the biden impeachment

investigation did, which is to say not at all. but it is grossly inappropriate and improper. you cannot use the official authority of congress as the oversight committee to do partisan electoral work. and we made that clear, that that is all the biden impeachment investigation was for a year and a half, but now there is no way around it. as soon as vice president harris and tim walz are on the ticket now, james comer launches investigations into them. it is clear that james comer is improperly using the oversight committee as an arm of donald trump's campaign. it won't stick because there is nothing there and because comer is inapt, but it is truly, truly remarkable that they go this far and this brazenly to make such a partisan effort out of an official duty of congress. >> and governor walz was teaching when he was in china. people should be aware of what he was even doing there.

congressman dan goldman, i always enjoy talking to you, thank you so much for taking the time today. >> thanks, jen, see you this week. coming up, donald trump's outrageous comments about medal of honor recipients, a reminder of just how warped his view of patriotism is. i have got a few things to get off my chest about that and we will do it when you come right back after fifth break point >> [ music ] teady. glucerna. bring on the day. looking for a smarter way to mop? try the swiffer powermop. ♪♪ an all-in-one cleaning tool that gives you a mop and bucket clean in half the time ♪♪ our cleaning pad has hundreds of scrubbing strips that absorb and lock dirt away, ♪♪ and it has a 360-degree swivel head that goes places a regular mop just can't.

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bullets or they are dead. she gets it and she is a healthy, beautiful woman. >> what you heard there was trump essentially saying that a republican donor is more deserving of recognition than our men and women, many who have been injured, in uniform. and what he clearly doesn't understand is that patriotism isn't at all determined by political loyalty or how hard you publicly help the american flag, it is about actual service to the people you represent and it is about sacrifice. and trump's worked view of patriotism really stands out. when you listen to how kamala harris and tim walz talk about our country, they are just speaking about democratic ideas, their speaking about american ideas. they're not just speaking as partisans to a single base or to donors, their speaking to a much fuller picture of america, a much bigger swath of the country than trump is. throughout his political rise, trump has tried to pick up what

republicans had branded as their own for decades, that they are the party of patriots, that they are the only ones who own the flag, but their projection doesn't make it true and it also doesn't mean it can't be disrupted. remember at a democratic convention 20 years ago, my old boss barack obama walked on stage and reframed patriotism entirely. >> abundance like to slice and dice our country in the red states and blue states. red states for republicans, blue states for democrats, but i got news for them, too, we worship an awesome god in the blue states and we don't like federal agents poking around in our libraries in the red states. >> [ cheers and applause ] >> we coach little league in the blue states, and yes, we have got some lgbtq friends in the red states. [ inaudible ] there patriots who supported the war in iraq. we are one people, all of us

pledging allegiance to the stars and stripes, all of us defending the united states of america. >> trump's rise was in part a backlash to exactly that vision that barack obama outlined. he did his best to turn the american flag into a symbol of his maga movement, rather than a symbol of this diverse and complex country we live in. but right now, kamala harris and tim walz are exposing how airbrushed that view of patriotism really is, and people out there are responding to it. >> usa, usa, usa. >> usa, usa, usa. >> trump and his party don't own patriotism. no political party does. they don't own what it means to be an american, and right now, kamala harris and tim walz are reframing patriotism as something that belongs to all of us, because it does.

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okay, the story goes like this, the historically successful but aging democratic president prepares to step aside from public life and throws his support behind a young, impressive, diverse, inspiring successor to carry his mantle forward. and no, i'm not talking about joe biden and kamala harris. >> [ inaudible ] >> [ music ] >> still the leader of our democratic party, president josiah. >> [ music ]

>> it's been an honor to serve you the past eight years. >> [ music ] >> four more years. >> now, it gives me a great pleasure to introduce to you the leaders of our party and the next president and vice president of the united states, matthew vincente santos and [ inaudible ] >> [ music ] >> joining us now is actor martin sheen, also known as president bartlett and mccormick, also known as deputy

national security adviser, kate. the author of the backstage and passed to the west wing, its cast and crew. this is coming at such a perfect time, everybody needs hope and a reminder. we were all watching that and getting a little emotional. >> i've never seen it. i have never seen that before, and people have asked me about it, and john spencer still lives here in our family. >> in your heart? >> i think that was his last scene if i'm not mistaken, his last time on camera, and i have never seen that scene until just this moment. it is just overwhelming. we were talking about him last night and we were equally sad and happy and joyful to have worked with him, to have known him. and to have seen him there, i have never seen that thing before and i'm just overwhelmed, forgive me, i just and unexpected.

>> you never need to be forgiven, i am emotional, too, watching you, and thinking of how special that show is and how it brought about so much love and patriotism and commitment and connection to public service. >> it still does. >> a love letter to public service, and it is, you know? it is okay to feel aspirational about our government. and it is nice to feel it again, frankly. >> no question about it. and that is exactly this book. it is a reminder to people, and i will tell you, i am re- watching the west wing. a remarkable show. and i watched that and i was thinking also of joe biden. i watched it a little earlier and i got a little emotional watching it earlier because i'm thinking of the speech he is about to give tomorrow night, and it is such a prophetic moment, because he is also handing over the torch. i know you both were at the white house this week, right? you spent some time with him.

>> i got tongue-tied, i mean, i just adore him. i had an infinite measure of gratitude and praise, and i got tongue-tied. i cannot remember what i said. he said a few things. mr. president, thanks for helping out and so forth, and i just got tongue-tied with what made me laugh in that picture you were showing earlier is he came back, we saluted each other, and he came back to me, and what he is saying right there is do you want to talk to the gavel? xo. [ laughter ] absolutely not. >> i said no, no, no, i played a president on television, this is not what i do for a living. >> the president was probably criticized in some episodes. that is another story line. i know you also were there watching marine 1 take off. it never gets old. i mean, i worked there for two presidents, it never gets old. >> i'm just a girl from new jersey, i don't know what i was

doing there. that was crazy. it was such an honor, though, to be able to say thank you to him for everything he did, for saving us, for saving democracy, for saving the country, for his decency and kindness. >> one of his staff said no president with the possible of exception of jimmy carter made such a personal sacrifice of true patriotism and love of country. >> there is no question about that, and i experienced that working for him, too. so, this book, as i was talking about earlier, i mean, i am so inspired by this show. i actually left politics, i left the obama administration, i was a consultant, i watched the entire seven seasons, and i went back to politics and worked on his campaign. and as you were saying earlier, there is this real connection between public servants who are inspired by it, but also, the show is inspired by public service. talk to me a little bit about that. >> melissa fitzgerald, who wrote the book with me, one of

my best friends, she played carol, she was approached to write a backstage pass to the west wing, and she said it is not really my book to write, i didn't have a huge part. i said it is not my book to write, i came late to the party. then we both were talking and decided the book that we could write was one that shined a light on service. if we did it through a lens of service. and both the show's legacy to service and also our friendship, we are all really close still, we are all in a text chain. >> [ inaudible ] >> we are still family. >> all day long, we make fun of josh molina, and we also ask each other to show up for events. we always do. x do you plan the reboot we all want to happen? >> talking about this last night that the reboot for us is we are a little too old for that kind of a show where we would still be in power. but he said that at our ages and where we are, if we started in a small town where one of us

-- and richard would be the key, working for a council man or woman who is trying to get an office, and he gets involved and that is the start of it. because it is the state level, the county level, the city level, politics is local. and he said that's where we could serve. he said i could come into a campaign somewhere in iowa or mississippi or who knows where and give a speech for a candidate that no one has ever heard of, and suddenly, they have some light shined on them, and that's what we could do point so, are you listening, erin? >> i would watch. also, the whole cast is always invited, we will do the whole thing here. let me ask you, the show was inspiring, too, because it brought joy back into politics, and politics should be joyful. >> it is again. >> are you seeing that out there as you're watching harris and walz? >> seeing it, feeling it,

knowing -- it is like reagan won the election with primarily a new dawn in america. it has happened again, it is a new day. america is the shining city on the hill. a new jerusalem. there is a new fresh air, there is a new energy, it is young, it is vital, and it is joy filled, and it can finally breathe. >> i think people watch the west wing as a tonic also and that's what feels like it is happening now with walls and harris, it feels like a tonic and they are what's next. >> they are not afraid to talk about politics on a deeply personal level. yes, we are responsible for one another, whether we accept that responsibility or not, and we are responsible for the world, because consciously or unconsciously, we have made it what it is. and we don't control the rules that govern the universe, we do control all the rules that govern our own hearts and

minds, and that's what we are being given a chance to finally express. >> we have seen you out there a little bit, are you going to be out there on the trail for harris and walz? >> i hope whatever we can do. >> we will show up in any way we are invited. >> i hope everybody is listening out there, they will show up in any way. >> i will get the chain going. >> so, what's next? >> that's what we are ready for. thank you both so much, i have been looking forward to this all week. i am re-watching the show, we all are as a team. i really appreciate you being here. i hope the book will bring some nostalgia and joy back to your lives. we will be right back after a very quick break. very quick break. ( ♪♪ ) the best moments deserve the best eggs. especially when they're eggland's best. taste so deliciously fresh. with better nutrition, too.

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that does it for me today and a huge thanks to mary maccormack and martin sheen with the whole crew stopping by. we have special coverage of the democratic national convention starting 6:00 p.m. eastern time every night. stay where you are because there is more news coming up on msnbc. on this new our of ayman, the harris campaign is taking a page to win over republicans and it is working plus trump's allies are sending players to the former president warning he is risking winning by relying on personal insults and can anybody get them