that does it for me today and a huge thanks to mary maccormack and martin sheen with the whole crew stopping by. we have special coverage of the democratic national convention starting 6:00 p.m. eastern time every night. stay where you are because there is more news coming up on msnbc. on this new our of ayman, the harris campaign is taking a page to win over republicans and it is working plus trump's allies are sending players to the former president warning he is risking winning by relying on personal insults and can anybody get them on track?

>> a case of rape sparking a discussion in israel and beyond. let's do it. these days there have been two words closely associated with vice president kamala harris's campaign and a one time charli xcx reference turned cultural phenomenon brat and then weird and if you listen carefully, there are two other phrases that signally ranting revamped for the democratic ticket. >> we want dignity for all people. we want to recognize the right all people have to freedom and liberty to make choices especially those about heart and home and not have the government telling them what to do. >> some of us are old enough to remember when it was republicans who were talking about freedom.

there is a golden rule, mind your own business. >> that is right vice president kamala harris is taking freedom and liberty right out of the republicans mouth and the branding machine tim walz is putting his own midwestern spin on it with mine your own business. the word freedom has been largely absent from the democratic campaign for the past few decades and liberty has essentially been a property of the gop ever since ronald reagan ran for office in over the past few decades republicans have stopped being the natural conduits of that message but not when they are the ones fighting tooth and nail to control women's bodies or control which books kids can read or which bathrooms people can use. the harris-walz ticket shrewdly enlisted help from pop culture royalty.

♪ >> last month beyonce granted here is permission to use her hit song freda messer campaign soundtrack with the message resonating not just with democrats but with republicans who can't will themselves to vote for donald trump and republicans for harris launched a campaign with the campaign targeting primary voters who back to nikki haley and unlike haley won't back trump. harris immediately unveiled two dozen gop endorsements including the former congressman denver recommind and the former press secretary stephanie grisham. that list grows by the day and last week republicans for harris held a virtual rally attended by over 70,000 people. >> do you want this republican party to change?'s do you want

to be ronald reagan's party again? do you want to be a party for freedom with limited governing an opportunity again? >> i can say that is why i am voting for kamala harris because i want a future for my children and grandchildren that embraces freedom and liberty and equality and democracy. >> there are those keywords, freedom and liberty. those terms as well as references to reagan were scattered throughout the call and the harris campaign is expanding its reach to even more disillusioned never trumper's at the dnc which kicks off tomorrow. it could get a boost from the former republican congressman adam kinzinger a vocal critic who served on the january 6 committee. he is expect it to speak at the convention on thursday night, the same night as vice president harris. with me now is craig snyder with voters for harris and the upcoming political thriller author. before you ran this, was the

republican support in your group for president biden as enthusiastic before he dropped out of the race? what may have reenergized this group of boaters when she announced her campaign? >> there is a mixture with some folks more comfortable with president biden because they knew more of what they were getting but most i think of these voters, the haley voters, have really joined the rest of the country in the lift of enthusiasm with the change to the vice president at the top of the ticket. people have been saying they want generational change for a very long time and a new sense of energy. and that is what the vice president has brought. i think that has been across the board. >> let me ask you about your

group. nikki haley has strongly endorsed donald trump despite criticizing him and has come back and kissed the ring and even sent your group a cease- and-desist letter because of the name of your group and why keep the name haley voters for harris and how much do you think her former voters are swayed by her choice to endorse trump? >> look. i think most of these voters and i am one of them and i am one of 160,000 registered republicans in a closed primary in pennsylvania which, by the way is a four times the margin by which donald trump got the state in 2016 so potentially decisively a large group of voters. a lot of us have respect for the former governor. she has made her decision. that is fine. it certainly isn't transferable to all of these voters. most people who voted for nikki haley in the primaries after she dropped out of the campaign

weren't really voting for her but against donald trump and voting against the authoritarian bent of the trumpets republican party trying to send a message to the party and i think they will send that message to the country come november 5. >> what you think vice president harris and tim also been doing specifically to bring more republicans on board, if anything? is there something specific about these policies? or is this more about trump posing a threat to democracy that you want to reject regardless of who is on the other side? >> no. obviously there is a coalition of people who want to protect and revive american democracy. and there are coalitions in american political history crucial to getting change accomplished. there is an anti-trump base to this but there is a genuine attraction to the vice president and he is somebody who over the course of her

career has done many things that are appealing to people in the center-right and the trump campaign will spend a lot trying to paint her as mouse a tongue and the policies that she has supported with president biden and the policies she is laying out for her own future administration are in the center of american policies and they are not radical left and they are voted for her by people who are still registered republicans and not something that they need to feel somehow difficult or awkward about and that is the primary message of the pack, the make a positive case for the vice president in this trade off with donald trump. >> thank you for your time. i greatly appreciate it. thank you for joining us. my panel joins us now, the cofounder and ceo of the seattle project and the part of

the political comedy duo and i will start with you. you have been a long time outspoken critic of donald trump going as far back as 2016. give me your thoughts. how do you feel when you see former republicans and others from your party, formally, come out, break ranks with the trump, support harris and stand up for our democracy? >> i think it is great and it is about time and my cofounder and i started this seneca project. we looked at these right of center women voters who were haley voters who are sick and tired of trump and what the republican party has turned into and it is a misogynist party on top of other things. we saw an opening here and this is who we speak to and we are a

bipartisan super pac targeting women in battleground states particularly those right of center women. we are thrilled to see this coming to the forefront now because it takes a permissions structure from fellow republicans to tell them it is okay that the water is warm here and you will be just fine. you won't spontaneously combust if you decide to cross party lines and do the right thing. nobody knows who you decide to vote for. when you go into the ballot box or you check that ballot mail- in, that is the privacy between you and your ballot and you don't have to tell your husband, neighbors. it is nobody else's business. the more women who get that permissions structure and see the example of republicans, and i have left the party because i think it is irredeemable at this point, but i commend my republican friends fighting the good fight and doing the right thing this time putting country over party. this is really no comparison. it is the future of our country at stake. what kind of country do we want

to leave to our granddaughters and daughters? is it a future that has positivity and forward thinking? or is it a country that is regressive, backwards looking attempt at retribution by donald trump and maga and the contrast couldn't be more clear and i am glad to see more republicans speaking out. >> jason, you know very well that when you leave trump or you leave maga world, you are cast as a traitor and dismissed whether it is liz cheney, adam kinzinger or anyone else. you have spoken to republicans. how do they feel when you go out there and talk to them and ask them well, what about this republican and prominent republicans are saying trump isn't good for this country. >> a question we said is why didn't bill barr find any evidence of voter fraud. i keep going back and we were

in butler pennsylvania at the rally where the assassination attempt happened. we did look and he had the opportunity to pick somebody like nikki haley and widen this a little bit for the party but he picked jd vance like basically a senator and basically a subpar podcast host who gets weirder and weirder with every interview he does and current the his polling numbers are worse than sarah palin. and then donald trump says i don't think i have changed from the shooting but i have actually gotten worse. i think a lot of moderate republicans that hear that, they think this guy has gotten worse? the guy that may be wanted to go to nikki haley now and they think how can this possibly get any worse? i think moderate republicans want a leader like john mccain or mitt romney who graciously

would concede if they lost an election and not create a whole new reality in which he was the winner of the election and everybody has to kiss the ring and say, yes, the election was stolen. and you probably want somebody not engaged in name slinging and questioning the race of their opponent or saying derogatory and racist comments. it is a very low bar. and it keeps getting lower and lower. >> is the cofounder and ceo of the seneca project, a bipartisan super pac form to mobilize women voters, are you conducting outreach of your own to former haley voters? >> yes. that was the foundation for why we started because we saw there was an appetite for an alternative and they just needed the permission structure. we are a women led organizations the women

speaking to women about what is at stake. the more we put it out there and look at what that is and look at the contrast and obviously we were supportive of biden when he was at the top of the ticket but now that kamala harris is there, it has really galvanized women and we see that reflected in the polls and the recent polling coming up in the new york times shows that kamala harris has a +17 advantage over trump when it comes to women which is six points higher than hillary clinton had in 2016. this is significant and two points higher than what trump has with men and there is a significant gender gap going into the selection. we firmly believe that women will make the difference and we galvanize women and we can save our democracy and everything else at this point. the women will decide this election and maga could keep insulting women and keep underestimating the power of women at their own peril

because we have seen it reflected in the polls and enthusiasm that women, including republican women, who aren't okay with the republican party but it is the mega maga misogynist party now. they are not okay with this and we are seeing it now where you have places in arizona with ballot initiatives with reproductive rights on the ballot in the fall and we had a record number of signatures in arizona which is bipartisan. and you can't forget the girl that out there upset about what is going on with the attack on women and they don't want their daughters growing up with that and my good friend denver ring woman is in support of kamala harris and part of our outreach to get that structure. we are encouraged but it is close and let's be clear about this. it is still very close and will take all of us to win. >> she brings up two good points. on one hand you have women who have historically performed or

i should say historically participated in elections voting at a higher rate than men do but at the same time you are at a critical junction in our history where daughters are having less freedom than their mothers and in some cases even their grandmothers and it's a bad trajectory going forward as we have seen but you would think donald trump would pivot and recognize this situation and he didn't do it in 2020 and people said you need to do something to win over suburban women in suburban mom's. he didn't do that obviously. to your point, he went ahead and picked jd vance and really putting gasoline on the fire with the cat lady comment. >> leave it to jd vance to insult a group of people out of nowhere. and over and over again. but one thing we have seen at trump rallies, and we were on the primary campaign trail when we went to a haley event and roe v. wade with the big issue and a lot of them have moderate

views and they believe in a women's right to choose or what to do with their own body. even at trump rallies, we were in bozeman, montana, last week. a good 25% of the people thought that a woman should have the right to choose what they can do with their body and they believed in the right to abortion. i think now you see donald trump saying we are taking it back to the states. a lot of people are smart and realize that he put those justices in and roe v. wade is gone because of donald trump. >> and because of the fact they are pivoting and you have people like lindsey graham saying they want a national abortion ban and donald trump said he wanted at the state level and republicans can't be trusted anymore on this issue than what they have already demonstrated. >> women do see that. they are not stupid. we see what they have done and

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trump's biggest sycophants are suggesting that if he doesn't change course he will lose to kamala harris. >> donald trump the showman may not win this election. i am looking for president trump to show up in the last 80 days to define what he will do for our country. >> almost every other republican candidate would be winning this race by 10 points and trump would say i am entitled to personal attacks and nobody cares what you are entitled to but do what you have to do to get the votes and win. >> he keeps defying his allies escalating his attacks going after harrises gender and appearance as recently as last night in pennsylvania repeatedly saying he is a better looking candidate than her and insulting her laugh and his trusted allies have reason to worry and the washington post poll released today shows that harris leads him in the national election by four points within the margin of error and it's a reversal from the same poll in july that had

biden and trump tied at 46% so how can republicans get the 78- year-old trump to magically change overnight? honestly, you probably can't but our key political analyst and strategist suggested this week that the campaign team shouldn't be blamed for trump's inadequacies but their job is to figure out how to house train him. one way may be to remind him why he is running in the first place, not to lead the nation but avoid federal prosecution and the possibility of prison time and it didn't motivate him, nothing would. it's really unbelievable to say you are doing this to keep out of prison and not shut up but stay on the talking points but it is remarkable that he has no message discipline. >> is that remarkable? >> it is remarkable he got to that point is a candidate and despite the fact he is lost in 2020 and that he isn't even

willing to have this kind of pivot and say let me see if i can adjust here. >> i want to say that i think it's really funny where they think we don't need this but you don't want the showman because they put out the cell phone number national television and here we go. look. maybe people should be telling them you should avoid jail and i know i would with federal crimes pending and i may be like maybe i should take a step back and had as i hear or what can i do differently. and he is doing the exact same thing over and over again and already saying this election will be stolen and harris is cheating and since it is donald trump he does it in his own weird way by saying an image from her rally is ai. i think he is a wounded guy and upset that joe biden dropped out because he thought he would win it. >> he is an old senile man who doesn't make sense and he rambled on and on and he lost control of mental acuity and

now this is who republicans are stuck with. >> yes you made your bed and you lay in it. he is very sensitive and he is a sensitive guy and i think we see this now that these crowd sizes that harris has is really getting under his skin and starting to say the one thing that joe biden couldn't draw a crowd and now harris has this huge crowd and -- >> how bad is it when somebody like lindsey graham says you are in trouble? >> i don't give any credit to anything lindsey graham says and he's trying to latch onto something to stay relevant and that happens to be trump this time. i don't really care what lindsey graham has to say and frankly governor sununu was insulting kamala harris in that interview this morning saying she didn't think -- he didn't think she was smart enough and

they are castigating trump for the insults and what they are entitled to but he is still towing the trump line of insulting kamala harris is intelligence which is quite rich especially coming from maga world where they have a guy at the top of the ticket who is the biggest an array missed to occupy the white house in history. again, it goes back to the contrast in the fact that republicans -- what do they think will happen that trump will be normal? isn't a normal guy and he's a malignant narcissist sociopaths obsessed with dictatorships and sharks and boat batteries and windmills and birds and make up and whatever that is on his head and goes out to rallies and tries to convince the american people that he is competent to run this country again but now this is old this lounge act and people are seeing through it and not only is that old but he is and people see this. republicans know what they have chosen and they made this

decision because they thought if we kiss up to him enough he will win again and we will be back in power but they do really know that trump is unstable but they are so tied to their medical future think it has to be maga or nothing that they are willing to sell their souls to do it. >> i suspect you will see more republicans follow that trajectory in the coming weeks and months. >> good luck. he is never changing, people. >> thank you to the both of you as always and good to have you on the show. >> next up a latino rights group breaks with its own history by endorsing vice president harris but the question is why now? why now?

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presidential ticket. vice president harris and tim walz for the first time in its 95 year history and the league of united latin american citizens made the endorsement and the group considered forming a pack for years but the prospect of another press -- trump presidency pushed it over the edge and as chairman, domingo garcia said the politics of hatemongering and scape goading latinos and immigrants must be stopped and joining me now to discuss this is the chair of the pack and thank you so much for making time for us and talk to us about how your organization came to this organization and the concerns you had which is the third time he is running for president and what did you and your fellow leaders see at stake now that you didn't see in 2016 and 2020 to make you endorse a rival candidate?'s >> we saw this coming from ex- president trump at the

republican national convention and we saw those signs with mass deportations now when he was talking about really weird ideas like i will abolish the department of education or defund public education and many latinos go to public schools and i was able to get a public education at a public university and go to a public law school to become an attorney and that is something we take seriously and the fact of the matter is latinos are the ones who are central workers and they are picking the crops we eat every day and in the meatpacking plants and construction sites in the minimum wage hasn't been raised that donald trump wouldn't raise it. when we saw that project 2025 where they were talking about sending the army going door-to- door and asking people to show papers and he would build mass concentration camps for immigrants and people who didn't like his politics and we said that isn't enough and we are going back and we have to have something positive and

hopeful and that is what vice president harris brings to the campaign and the daughter of immigrants and somebody who wants border security but also a bipartisan immigration reform bill and somebody wants to help education and somebody who says she will raise minimum wage and won't tax the tips of waiters and waitresses and all of those things combined to say enough is enough and it is time to make a difference and in states like nevada, georgia, arizona, wisconsin we have thousands of members. >> tell me about your membership and what has the sentiment been since this endorsement was made public? was there any dissent or debate within the organization as to this is the right time for kamala harris and tim walz as being the right people? >> we have many members in the

united states and puerto rico. we have veterans, law enforcement and republicans, democrats, independents. we have a few that we are concerned about the vast majority of our membership said it is time we make a difference and time that the hands that picked the cottons and builder cities and that was that she was the best candidate or far superior candidate to make a difference overall. >> let's talk about policy. are there any issues that you would like to push for the vice president and her potential administration on? we talked about how there are new advertisements calling for more border agents are different approaches on immigrations but what would your organization specifically like to see her address on the issue of immigration? what specific policies? >> we need to secure the border and pass this that has been used in the past primarily because the republicans won't help pass a bipartisan bill so if we have -- if the democrats

can control the house, the senate and the presidency, i think we can pass sensible immigration reform that will secure borders and go after the drug cartels and go after the smugglers but also have a humane legal option where people come to this country who want nothing more than the american dream and we know what trump says and he uses latinos and immigrants as political piñata is to bash and yell criminals or terrorists and it's a big lie repeated over and over again that needs to change. >> thank you so much for your time and insight and i look forward to having many more conversations with you as we approach election day. thank you. >> next up the case of an alleged rape in and it is really -- an israeli prison. is.

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the footage you are about to see is from a protest turned riot in israel from the end of last month. it wasn't against israel's destruction of the gaza strip now deemed an extermination campaign by united nations report and being investigated as a genocide by the international port of just it -- justice nor is it against a cease-fire deal and the man being seen as the biggest obstacle to such a deal but these protesters, which included members of the israeli

military and the government were demanding the release of soldiers arrested on suspicion of rape at a prison in southern israel. the protests on behalf of the alleged rapists got so heated that they had to send battalions to support them. they said it was a riot for impunity that shows israel's proud embrace of its crimes in these protesters once a fringe group are now the public face of the state and rather than complete outrage and denunciation the use of sodomy and other forms of torture have advocates in this and in a heated debate among israeli lawmakers in july one parliamentarian asked if it was legitimate to insert a stick into a person's rectum and one of another party shouted yes if the detainee is a hamas militant and then everything is

legitimate to do. sadly, this isn't the only israeli lawmaker openly promoting sexual violence as a weapon of war nor is the advocacy of torture and rape confined to fringe parts of israeli society. this is really journalist posted , unbelievable and on a popular morning show and a commentator argued that israel should approve torture and rape's policy and they let them go on. the media has normalized the most extreme voices and in the middle of this shocking debate the prominent human rights group released a study called welcome to exposing how the prison system turned into a network of torture camps and they collected the testimony of 55 palestinians incarcerated in prisons after their release and their conclusion is that israel is conducting a systematic institutional policy focused on the continual abuse including

frequent acts of severe arbitrary violence, sexual assault, humiliation, degradation deliberate starvation forced unhygienic conditions, sleep deprivation and denial of adequate medical treatment among other forms of torture. and as if this harrowing report wasn't enough, a shocking video was broadcast on israeli television last week appearing to show israeli soldiers doing this to a prisoner at the facility in late july and we haven't independently confirmed details of the reported of abuse but we spoke to the doctor who treated the prison -- prisoner but he did suffer and manage damage. they said they have serious abuse allegations and an investigation is ongoing.

the prime minister for his part isn't responding to a request for comment about the alleged abuse but did call for calm and the protest on the behalf of the soldiers accused of committing rape. matthew miller was recently asked about the footage of the gang 22 -- rape and here is how he responded. >> we have seen the video and reports of sexual abuse of detainees are horrific and they ought to be investigated fully by the government of israel and the idf. >> when asked about the report about this and whether there should be an independent investigation miller had this to say. >> there to be zero tolerance for sexual abuse and rape of any detainee . that is a fundamental belief of the united states. if there are detainees who have been abused and detainees who

have been sexually assaulted or raped, the government of israel and the idf have to investigate those actions and hold anybody responsible and accountable to the full extent of the law. >> the us government, supposedly fighting for the rules-based international order, is still going with the talking point that the government of israel should investigate itself despite compelling evidence that it is running a torture campaign including gang rape. despite prominent members of the government are advocating for both rape and the soldiers committing it, how much longer will america allow this to go on? when we come back, we will discuss this and more. stay with us. but a treatment can be. keytruda is known to treat cancer. fda-approved for 17 types of cancer,

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before the break i mentioned a new report by the israeli human rights group detailing systemic torture and rape inside israeli prisons but the group explains this isn't a new phenomenon and they said israel has imprisoned over 800,000 palestinian men and women from the west bank and gaza strip which accounts for 20% of the total population and 40% of all palestinian men and i am joined now by a palestinian analyst and former legal advisor. it is great to see you and it is hard to put this in context with 800,000 palestinian men and women over the course of decades arrested who are the people making up the prison population. tell us a little bit about that

legal process in the occupied territories and what legal rights do they have? do they have lawyers or trials are not? >> virtually none. it is important to keep in mind that what we see now particularly when it comes to this prison camp or actually the torture camp is the vast majority of the palestinians are those who have been picked up from the gaza strip and thrown into the detention center or the torture camp without any due process or the ability to see a lawyer, speak to a lawyer without appearing before a judge. we don't actually even know the complete picture and we don't even have the numbers and the latest statistic we have is there are 21,000 palestinians who have been picked up just since a tober being held in these prison camps and many of whom are children.

it is important to keep in mind that all of these people coming out from these other prison camps are talking about repeated torture and rape. of course, all of these people are civilians . it is important to keep that in mind because as people try to blur the distinction between combatants and noncombatants, each and every one of the palestinians held in these prison camps is a civilian. they have been tortured repeatedly and oftentimes sexually abused and with no access to lawyers or judges or access to any form of legal system whatsoever. >> you have conducted interviews with some of these released prisoners and what did they tell you about their treatment in israeli prisons or israeli torture camps as they have gotten reports and as they have called them and what did you hear firsthand? >> it is hard to describe the

things they have been going through. everything from people having their hands and legs shackled 24 hours a day or being placed in a fetal position, a circle drawn around them and not being able to cross this line drawn around them. if they do, they are tortured. if they speak up, they are tortured. if they ask for water, they are tortured. many of them have been describing that their bones were broken. many of them talked to me about the lack of medical treatment and one man in particular told me how the israeli prison guards broke his wrists and he was bleeding, vomiting blood and even the medical care there they said if they sought medical treatment he may be someone to disappear. it is everything from extreme torture to many of them talking about the sexual abuse that they have gone through. many of them have also talked about witnessing torture and

for example one man told me that the only time that the blindfold was removed from him was to be able to witness another palestinian being tortured. in addition to the physical abuse he was enduring, it was the psychological torture of seeing somebody else being abused or tortured and being raped. they told me about the lack of water or the inability to take a shower. one young man at age 18 said he was denied the ability to shower for 50 days and forced to remain in the same clothing and others who have stayed there without charge or trial for such a long period of time talking about also having and i don't even know how to describe it but repeated rape and being subjected to that with objects put inside of their bodies

including batons and being attacked by dogs and so on. the stories that are coming out are horrific. the problem here, ayman, is that israeli society is so used to these stories that they aren't even questioning what is happening but they are supportive of it and there was a poll that came out today by the israel institute for security studies that say 65% of people polled believe those soldiers who have carried out this brutal gang rape should only be subjected to disciplinary measures and not criminal. >> let me ask you about this broader debate in israeli society. you speak the language and you know the country in and out. what is it like witnessing this heated public debate were some members of the public are openly calling for sodomy or openly fighting on behalf of those committing sodomy against palestinian prisoners?

>> this is the result of the decades of dehumanization, israeli dehumanization of palestinians, where it becomes okay to do what they want to do to palestinians. it didn't start in october and it certainly predates it and when you have politicians like the former justice minister saying that palestinian mothers did that and they have the israeli president saying there are no innocent and gaza and will you hear individual after individual claiming that every person should be subjected to be shown who is boss, you realize that this is the result of decades of dehumanization. it is important to keep in mind that what israel is doing now is not torture being done and that is a legal. this isn't being done in order to obtain information or by any stretch of the imagination but simply done to exact revenge or show who is boss and the fact

we see this within israeli society, people literally rioting for the right to rape palestinians shows you how israeli society is thinking and where they are today. it is because they haven't been told no or given a red light by the international community and said enough is enough. >> thank you so much for your time and reporting on this. i look forward to talking to you again. >> thank you. a few moments ago vice president harris and her running mate tim walz arrived in chicago ahead of the dnc kickoff and you see pictures of them arriving at the tarmac and it's the last stop of what has been a very busy day for the democratic ticket including a bus tour through battleground pennsylvania. that will do it for me tonight and thank you for making time for us. make sure to catch ayman each sunday and follow us on instagram and ask -- x. until

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countdown to chicago, the democratic national convention begins tomorrow. a show of excited unity that will culminate with vice president, harris officially