got to love that music. good to be with you. i'm katy tur. tonight in chicago, we're going to see something we haven't seen in 56 years. a convention, built around a nominee who wasn't chosen in a primary. but instead of frustration and anger from a democratic

electorate who, again, chose someone else, there's jubilee because for the first time in a while, a political party actually listened to voters and did the hard thing, pressuring the ageing sitting president, a beloved and accomplished party stallworth to step aside, and they did it with four months before the election. that in itself is huge. the fast coalesce around his successor is even bigger. just this weekend, an abc news "washington post" ipsos poll showed vp kamala harris in the lead nationally, 51 to 45% among likely voters. that is outside of the margin of error. so what can the democrats do to hold on to and then build off that this week? unity is going to be a big part of it. tonight that task will fall on the one guy in the party who got the short end of the stick amid all of this. that's president biden.

he'll give the keynote where a lot will be riding on what he says and how he says it, showing and telling americans whether all of this unity is the real deal, folks. joining us now is nbc white house correspondent, mike memoli, inside the hall for us. they do a lot of sound checks there. so beware out there that you could suddenly be drowned out by loud music. tell me a little bit about tonight. you know president biden so well, what's this going to be like for him, and what's he plan on saying? >> reporter: well, it's remarkable, katy, because this is a president who has attended 13 now democratic conventions. he wasn't even old enough for the office he was running for in 1972 for his first, and so he didn't have a 2020 convention, the usual experience when he finally won the nomination s so there is a bit of a bittersweet nature to him coming heem with a sort of farewell address. he knows his mission is important. he has to continue to unite this party. we have seen a remarkable

consolidation of support around kamala harris. he knows there's more parts of the biden/harris coalition that he can help shore up. he feels he has an important mission to continue what he started in 2020. as one adviser put it, he saved democracy in 2020 by defeating trump and wants to make it clear to the delegates how he views the stakes of the election as significant, the need to keep donald trump out of the white house, and he'll talk about the accomplishments of his administration. he sees kamala harris as an important partner in getting a lot of these accomplishments through, and the way that he's going to put it, according to an adviser closely involved in the process is, yes, it's presidential leadership that he showed, and is able to use the coalition, the narrow majorities democrats had in congress to get this done, but to bring along the rest of the party, to bring along bipartisan majorities, in some cases for those accomplishments. he thinks he has been able to accomplish a lot because the american people have been behind him. donald trump views himself as

somebody who only himself can fix it. that's a contrast in leadership that they see as an important part of his presentation to the country tonight. >> it's also interesting, mike, when you look at this convention compared to the republican convention, there were no formers on the stage at the republican convention. very few republican leaders on the stage, storied republican leaders, at least, and in this convention, we're going to see a whole lot of formers, hillary clinton as well. it's going to be a, you know, who's who of democratic party leaders over the past 30, 40 years. >> and we're even going to see jason carter who's going to represent his grandfather, former president jimmy carter. this is a party that despite the trauma, frankly, of the past two months, remember, it's less than a month that president biden did step out of the race at the debate performance, they are fully behind their nominee. it's an important message. we are going to hear from some republicans. we had one prominent republican

endorsing kamala harris today. we have a coalition of republicans for kamala harris that you will also see as part of the presentation. but i think the most interesting part will tonight, of course, be the tributes to president biden. there's a reason i'm standing where i am, katy. we wanted to be in the delaware delegation. they have a prime floor position, even if president biden is no longer the nominee. >> mike memoli, thank you very much. and former president donald trump is going to try to counter program this week, giving an economy speech right now in pennsylvania. we'll dip into that in a little while. joining us now "the washington post" senior political correspondent, msnbc political correspondent, ashley parker, chief impact officer of 1063 west broad and is former senior adviser for biden's 2020 campaign alencia johnson, and former clinton campaign manager, robbie muck. this is a big opportunity for democrats. history has shown, according to research, that there's a big

polling bump that comes out of a convention, and the party with the most excitement after this moment is usually the one that wins? >> yeah, it's a huge moment for democrats. i was actually thinking, just walking into the united center today that in a weird way, both parties got the convention they wanted. obviously in retrospect it wasn't the convention the republicans wanted, but you and i were both there, katy, the republican convention, it was excitement, enthusiasm after the assassination attempt, and with biden still at the top of the ticket, there was a sense that donald trump was just going to walk back into the oval office, and even being on the ground here for 24 hours, there's an incredible sense, again, of excitement and enthusiasm for democrats, for vice president harris at the top of the ticket, but i want to say that this is particularly important, this convention, and this bump, in this particular case because of the unusual circumstances. normally, you would have a

candidate who is so well defined from the primary process, but this is much more of a sprint, a british parliamentary timetable. a lot of voters don't know vice president harris, and so all conventions are introductions, but this one it really matters how they introduce her, and how they sort of launch her out of that cannon for this final 80-odd-day sprint. >> as we said, there's some rehearsals going on. we're all going to be fighting against that. she's had the nomination for a little over a month, the agenda for the democratic party, the platform was announced today, it's 92 pages. a lot of it refers to president biden, a biden second term. a lot of it leans on biden proposals. does that mean that a kamala harris presidency is going to be second biden term on the policy issues? >> well, look, katy, i'll be

very honest with you. my headpiece just went out, but i think you were talking about the short sprint that we have between now and election day and how she's only been the nominee for a few weeks. listen, vice president harris is going to, this week, build upon the achievements of the biden/harris administration, which is a great thing for democrats, for us to start with. president biden, this week, listen, he actually did a lot for this nation, and there were a lot of supporters. i know the media apparatus was talking about how he needs to step aside and the enthusiasm wasn't there. but president biden has a huge base that still loves him. i mean, they're yelling thank you, joe, we love joe biden. he was at a rally in maryland with vice president harris, and we are going to continue to see her build upon that momentum, and continue to show the american people that she can build upon that agenda. that's a popular agenda. the one thing i think ashley said about people getting introduced to vice president harris, i think president biden

is going to do a job introducing her. she's also going to build upon that and talk about where she stands on the future of the party, the issues that we care about when it comes to abortion rights, protecting lgbtq i americans, the economic agenda that is popular that she wrote out last week, so we are really excited. i'm wearing blue. i'm excited to see president biden tonight, and thank him for his service, and then as he passes the torch to vice president harris. >> alencia got to a lot of the what i was asking in that question. i want to ask it of you. is this going to be a continuation of a joe biden presidency or do you see moments or opportunities for vp harris to deviate, to chart out her own path for her own administration if she wins? >> well, i think you have seen the rollout that she did this week around reducing prices, grocery prices and every day costs for american families,

that was a bit of a different direction than we have seen. it's less about the specifics are going to be radically different or anything like that. and i do believe that you're going to see her focus, you know, that focus shift. we also heard that president biden talked a lot about saving democracy. we have seen this ever so slight shift from the vice president talking about our freedoms and protecting our freedoms. i think you'll see some different focus areas. but this will definitely be a continuation of a lot of the success that she's had under this administration. but the last thing i'll say in this, and i apologize because it's been hard for all of us to hear. i hope this wasn't said before. i believe it's so important for the vice president to make this campaign about turning the page in our politics in this country. and so -- and that's more thematic than specific. but part of turning that page is that she's her own person. she's a different candidate. this is a different time, a different future we're going into. i think you'll hear that

throughout this convention. >> tell me about what hillary clinton will do tonight, and what this moment is going to be like for her. you were there in 2016, running against donald trump. she thought she was going to breakthrough. she thought she was going to be the first woman president. how is it going to be for her tonight to get on the stage and talk about kamala harris? >> well, obviously it's going to be bittersweet. what you're going to hear that you heard in 2016 is how important it is for us to break that glass ceiling. but i don't think you're going to hear hillary talk about the past or talk about what did or didn't happen eight years ago. i think you're going to hear her talk about what the opportunity to elect a woman president is going to mean in people's lives, what it's going to mean in terms of people's freedom to make their own health care decisions, the freedom to tell your children that they can be anything they want when they grow up and, have your kids really believe that. i think it's going to be an optimistic speech, a

forward-looking speech, and she's going to be seeking to bottle that lightning that we're feeling right now, keep driving that momentum to make sure that, you know, all of that energy we have been talking about here in this convention center pushes that campaign, this campaign through to november. >> ashley, how much more does vp harris need to get into policy going forward? i know we've got the platform from the dnc that's been released. she had her economic policy speech on friday. some of what she said has opened her to criticism from republicans that she's using, the price cap she wants to put or price gouging at the grocery store. they're using that against her to say she supports marxism and communism. you hear donald trump calling her maduro. does she open herself to more attacks if she gets farther into attacks or does that not matter? does she have to going guard? >> i think the answer is both.

it's been fascinating to watch donald trump and his team try to land on nickname for vice president harris that sticks and has resonance with voters. so far they haven't been successful. it will be interesting to see if comrade harris, comrade kamala does stick. we don't know yet. it's a little early. for these nicknames to stick, the voters have to feel there's a kernel of truth. now, for the policy question, i spent this morning talking to and listening to some very smart people who are running the democratic outside super pac, and what they were saying is, yes, she doesn't necessarily have to drill down into the policy weeds in a way that will please economists, but this is a bread and butter election, meaning the cost of bread and the cost of butter and what voters want to hear, especially voters who don't know her, what they want to know and what they

want to tell her is look, this is what my life is like, going to the hotel or super market, and barely eking by. what are you going to do to help me? she needs to have a plausible answer for that question, and it does involve some policy details. it doesn't necessarily involve deeply granular details, but it needs to be more than a broad platitude of i'm going to fight for you. >> what about immigration, alencia? >> listen, what ashley was saying is a really good point about the economic policy. i do think what you have seen with the harris campaign is they are already speaking to voters. they have been traveling, you know, there's been a conversation about whether or not she's going to sit down and have a media interview. her interview, with the voters, they were in pennsylvania yesterday and are getting here today, the piece around fighting for the american people is partly, yes, this policy piece, but also defining herself and governor walz, and showing that we are not from the same class

of previous leaders, right? we come from middle class america. we didn't go to ivy league schools. she worked at mcdonald's when he was in college. for folks to engage and build that trust with her, they can actually move towards vice president harris and governor walz around this conversation, around the economy. along with a whole host of other issues that we have talked around, abortion, voting rights, criminal justice reform, governor walz has been a great advocate around criminal justice reform. what a lot of minnesota voters and citizens appreciate about him. so i think as we are defining who they are and where they come from, the policy will make more sense, and people will start trusting them quite a bit more. >> i do wonder about immigration and how far she gets into that subject. donald trump leads her on that, and democrats face a deficit. does she try to head it off or does she try to skirt the issue. alencia, i'm out of time.

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looking than she was, and close bid saying he could have put hillary clinton in prison in he wanted to. joining us now, nbc news correspondent, vaughn hillyard. i list that stuff off because i think it's important not to pick and choose the newsy bits. >> there's a lot. >> he's giving an economic speech. i can't tell you if he's actually talking about the economy. how does the campaign feel about what he has been saying so far? >> the campaign lets donald trump speak at his own will. i was at the rally on saturday, and he went off on a riff about the appearance of kamala harris, people say she's beautiful but she thinks he's the better looking of the two. i mean, this is where donald trump is at, and it's what his crowds eat up, right? outside of talking about issues, but let's be also very clear, the issues when he does talk about them have lacked a lot of substance. if we're talking about the economy, there are real repercussions about one of the

policy proposals he's actually put forward, that would be a 10% tariff across all goods. that would essentially by a 10% tax on american companies, on americans for all goods, parts that are brought into the united states. major repercussions that eventual conservatives are concerned about here. for donald trump right now, my producer is watching his remarks. he has mentioned biden impeachment stuff here, and i think that is a question we're going to be seeing as donald trump hits the road not only here but michigan, north carolina, arizona, and nevada, all this week. >> i mentioned the low energy crowd for a reason. wilkes-barre, i have been there a number of times with donald trump, and usually those crowds are especially raucous in that part of pennsylvania. he draws enthusiastic support. the reason i'm asking about the crowds, they have been described as a place where you're not getting a lot of new supporters. you're getting the same people going over and over. people have likened it to a dead concert, people that are deadheads or phish might say, that's not quite the same thing.

but you're basically getting the same people over and over again. while, you know, we expect him to go on these riffs and to talk about other things, they're not as effective as they used to be because it's not new. it's the same old act that he's been putting up there on stage for eight years. does the campaign feel like it's the same old act, that the personality of donald trump is no longer as effective? we had lindsey graham on "meet the press" just this weekend saying the showman, donald trump the showman, might not win. >> and let's be clear. there is nobody in america who has talked about the crowds at donald trump's events more than donald trump. the reason we talk about his crowds is because donald trump, every single time, he says, turn the cameras around, show everybody that's here. right. so if we want to talk about crowds, he was suggesting that ai generated crowds for kamala harris's team, we're having this conversation because of that. >> there are new people going to kamala harris events. we didn't see people like that for joe biden's events.

the enthusiasm, the crowds are the same size, the enthusiasm is different because this is a new set of people. >> where do you need enthusiasm from? the base of support, and who makes up the base, people who are turning up for rallies. when you see the same people compare to the foundational base for kamala harris. the one event we need to watch is the event in glendale, arizona, this friday. why? because it was the largest democratic event in the history of the state of arizona that kamala harris and tim walz had two weeks ago, and it was at the old arena where the phoenix coyotes used to play hockey. this event garnered about 15,000 people. who is having his event at that arena for the first time ever, donald trump this friday in glendale, the same arena, the question is will there crowd be able to match what the kamala harris crowd brought just two weeks ago, the exact same venue, the capacity upwards of 20,000, if they don't block off sections

at the top, so really, i think that's a barometer. if you're talking maricopa county for folks to look at. >> are you going to be there? >> i'm going to a wedding this weekend. this is the one i'm not going to arizona. i'll be watching from the wedding out here on the east coast. >> i'll wait for your analysis. vaughn hillyard, thank you very much. and georgia is back in play for democrats, but the election board over there could jam things up on election day. "the new york times" reports that georgia's election board, the independent unelected agency that shapes the state's voting rules has a new conservative majority that sympathizes with election deniers. joining us now, "new york times" domestic correspondent covering national politics, nick corsiniti, thank you for being with us. tell me a little bit about what this election board is going to mean for the election, how they can jam things up? >> i think to understand what's happening in georgia, we have to

go back a few months. the state election board was at a deadlock, more conservatives trying to push these, you know, different rules and laws that could theoretically jam up certifications, especially the way former trump plans to subvert the 2020 election, and go back to '16 and 2024, and there was a member who was opposing all of this, a republican, his name is ed lindsay, and they orchestrated an aggressive take down of him. the state republican party was putting out policy papers and putting things on the ballot, on the primary ballot that were against him. the policy foundation, all parts of, you know, the kind of maga world was targeting him, and he eventually buckled and, you know, stepped down, and they appointed a more trump-aligned third member. so what they've done now, and this state election board is able to make rules and kind of tell counties how they have to run elections, and they've started make rules that sit exactly with what trump tried to

do in 2020, the most important one is giving local election officials, county election officials the ability to say whether or not they will certify an election. they use the words discretionary, ministerial, the thought is long established georgia law said they shall certify elections, meaning it's ministerial. what the georgia election board just did, the newly conservative board said, no, they have discretion, and what that could do if you go down one of these doomsday scenarios is that someone aligned with trump could find what they claim is evidence of fraud, even if it's not there, or just say, i have a lot of questions, i want to keep investigating this, i need this document and that document, and run out the clock until the legal time of certification was completed by passes, and then we're in a crisis. so that's kind of how they inserted themselves into what was normally a pretty routine process, and it was raising a lot of concerns for november. >> is this happening in any other states?

>> nowhere near the level of success they have had in georgia. when you look at other states, democratic governors, democratic secretaries of states, insert themselves into rules, they have had success like this at county boards. there has been about 20 local county officials who have already refused to certify primary elections over the past two years. in eight different battle ground states, according to a study by protect democracy. nothing to the statewide level. what's going on in georgia right now is certainly the most successful attempt by, you know, the kind of conservative wing of the republican base obsessed with elections to really exert influence, and take over a rule making board in a way that we haven't seen really anywhere else. >> nick, thank you very much. and coming up, what chicago has done to make sure this week is not a repeat of 1968. similarities, of course, but a

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we have breaking news out of israel. secretary of state antony blinken says prime minister benjamin netanyahu has accepted the terms of a u.s.-backed cease fire deal. >> in a very constructive meeting with prime minister netanyahu today, he confirmed to me that israel accepts the bridging proposal, that he supports it. it's now incumbent on hamas to do the same. >> joining us now, nbc news international correspondent daniele hamamdjian. so what does this bridging proposal -- what is that? >> reporter: well, some aspects of the proposal have come out in the israeli and arab media, but from an official channel, we don't have the details just yet.

this proposal was meant to bridge the remaining gaps, but after the last round of talks in doha last week, hamas came out and said, this doesn't align with what we previously agreed to that. more than that, it mostly addresses the israeli concerns. katy, i think what a lot of people will be asking tonight is has benjamin netanyahu just agreed to something he knows hamas will not agree to. in other words, is he bluffing? he's been under intense pressure by the families of the hostages who have accused him of putting his own political survival ahead of the survival of the hostages and their release. they say that he's beholden to his far right coalition ministers who have threatened to bring down his government if he agrees to a cease fire. if that happens, there are elections where he could possibly lose power. now, among the sticking points is the so-called philadelphia corridor, which is this buffer zone between egypt and gaza. hamas wants a full crawl of israeli forces from the enclave.

israel wants to maintain a presence in the buffer zone to make sure they don't smuggle in weapons and fighters. blinken is not going to be headed to egypt and then qatar in hopes of closing the deal, but he said it is now incumbent upon hamas to approve the deal. >> daniele hamamdjian, thank you. as harris/walz ramp up programming inside, outside, protesters are gathering. joining us now, nbc news correspondent, shaquille brewster. shaq, what are you seeing? >> reporter: we're hearing this rally wrap up right now, and we know that it will start to turn into a march that will take these groups of protesters about two blocks. within two blocks of the united center. of course that's where the main convention events are going to be taking place, and you know, talking and going around here looking at the signs, talking to people, it's clear that this is a coalition of groups, part of this. it's not just one issue.

it's immigration issues, abortion and reproductive rights but all of the groups have climbed on to a clear demand. they want the united states to stop providing aid to israel. i want you to listen to conversations we have had with people, who have come from all over, as far as d.c. >> this march isn't just about palestine. that's going to be our center. it's about lgbtq rights, reproductive rights, immigration justice. >> i think a lot of that comes down to just getting a official policy platform from kamala harris. we haven't seen an official policy platform, and if kamala harris takes a meaningful stance against the genocide in palestine, then i don't know, i think that that would change a lot of people's minds. >> reporter: and, katy, certainly looming over this convention was the concern with the security.

i talked to the superintendent of chicago police department last week, and he welcomed protests. he knew that there were going to be large protests, and he said his officers would be there to protect any of the peaceful protesters, and to that point, there has been a large police presence around this park. this is one of the official protest areas for the convention, but they haven't been in riot gear. we have seen them separating groups with different ideologies. they have been here making their presence now. so far, it's been a peaceful interaction in chicago. >> shaquille brewster, thank you very much. the latest on george santos's legal battle. what the ousted congressman will face after a court appearance that's happening right now. some things could change. first, democrats are set to give a preview of what kamala harris's presidency could look like. pennsylvania senator bob casey joins us with how all of this is affecting his down ballot race. were you worried the wedding would be too much? nahhhh...

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the democratic national committee just released the party's 2024 platform. it is 92 pages as we've said, and it was written before president biden dropped out of the race, which means, one, there are a lot of now uncomfortable references to a biden second term, and, two, the harris administration doesn't yet plan on deviating much from the already paved path. again, at least not yet. joining us now, anchor of "chris jansing reports" on msnbc, chris

jansing. really good to have you. you're there. you've seen the platform. you've obviously been covering harris, as we all have. tell me about where the deviations are and what this party agenda, this platform that's been unveiled means for how she's going to run the rest of this race and how she might govern? >> reporter: so a platform is a always a statement, kind of a general statement of where the party stands and there are special interest groups that try to get their points of view in there, but basically, it's not a document that's meant to offend. it's meant to rally the troops. in fact, i like the line that the "new york times" used, they call that political comfort food. so in this case, it's a statement. even before obviously joe biden dropped out of the race of where the biden-harris administration stood. very similar infrastructure, big priority for them. supportive unions, big priority. federal minimum wage, $15, big priority for them. there are a couple of ways they

do deviate, i noted, ways in which the harris campaign believes can be very helpful. for example, joe biden has proposed and the document proposes a $10,000 tax credit for first time home buyers. kamala harris's position is 25,000. it proposes a $10,000 tax credit, i'm sorry a $3,600 tax credit for children. 6,000 is what kamala harris would like to see. those are the kinds of things that the harris campaign believes can help them in battleground states, places like pennsylvania, arizona, with the youth vote, first time home buyers, with suburban women. it, of course, caused some consternation for donald trump who, i think, we can show you what he put out on social media criticizing the platform saying they mentioned joe biden's second term over 20 times. it shows that the platform is not important to them when they won't even make the change. it does mention donald trump 150

times. what trump doesn't mention and what you know well, in 2020, republicans didn't have a platform. they decided to skip it all together. there were some disagreements about what that platform should say. i also remember covering bob dole in 1996, and he was asked about the specifics of his platform to which he responded, i haven't read it. that's maybe a little more extreme than most folks, but i do think that the democrats i've talked to in just the past couple of hours see this as a document that states the kinds of things they believe will continue to fire up the base, a base that, as we have been reporting now for the last three weeks, is already fired up behind kamala harris. >> you took the words out of my mouth regarding 2020, the platform they proposed this year for 2024 was very hard line, lots of red meat, especially on the subject of immigration, which was big at the republican national convention, saying they're going to deport all undocumented immigrants right

now, talking about mass deportations. that was the big theme of that convention. chris, you have been to so many of these. you're getting serenaded by mr. taylor behind you. >> james taylor, who's a big democrat. what's this one like so far? it's early days, the beginning of the first day, in fact. does it feel any different? >> it does feel different, and everybody i talked to, we're all comparing how many different conventions we have been to. my first one was in 1980 in new york city, and they all have their unique characteristics, you know this, katy, and the whole idea is for people to leave feeling energized. the republicans left feeling energized. this is different. there is a sense here of a generational shift. there is an almost palpable sense of relief that the weight that people have been feeling, the angst seems to be easing a little bit. i talked to one texas delegate who was going up and down. he has been a delegate five different times, and he just

said to me, we're going to win this. we're going to make texas a battleground state. that gives you a sense of the level of optimism here. one they hope to build on. they certainly have gotten a lot of star power, just in the last several hours. we've heard a lot of great music, katy. >> democrats have been hoping for texas for a little while now. >> a long time. >> chris, thank you very much. have fun. joining us now, democratic senator from pennsylvania, bob casey. senator, it's really good to have you. i see you in front of your senate campaign signs there. what's this change at the top of the ticket done to your race against dave mccormick? >> well, katy, good to be with you. i think it's given a lift, not only to the campaigns in pennsylvania, but all across the country. you know, the metric that is often used is how much money people raise, and that's interesting, but i think the most significant number i've seen are the number of new

volunteers all across our commonwealth, which can be measured not in the thousands but in the tens of thousands. that's an important development. look, i think the reason why people are so energized is because they know a lot is at stake. they know that voting rights and women's rights and workers rights are on the ballot, like never ever before. at least in my lifetime, i have never seen these rights both undermine and often threatened, but also the prospect for restoration of those rights or strengthening of those rights, i think is motivating a lot of people. >> what's the issue that pennsylvania is going to be voting on? is there one that's more top of mind than others? >> well, i think the debates about rights are going to be part of that. i also think if i had to pick two words, it would be lower costs. meaning that they want to hear from both sides, and they're hearing a lot from me about how we can get costs down. part of that is helping families

afford not simply the price of groceries that have skyrocketed and the price of household items. that's why i have been battling on greed-flation, but also the cost of child care, housing, basic costs in people lives. the good news is there is a big difference between me and my opponent, lower costs for families with children, i have voted in favor of the capping of insulin costs to 35 bucks a month for seniors, and any opponent's opposed to all of that. mccormick wants to repeal the law that capped insulin at 35 bucks, and his party has done nothing to advance a generous version of the child tax credit. that's why one of the reasons i think we're going to be able to point out those distinctions and win. so i'd ask people to go to the web site behind me, bobcasey.com to help us. >> the democrats have an ambitious agenda if kamala harris is to win, the child tax

credit, $6,000 for the first year of life. and policy on making housing more affordable, better access to housing across the country, and lowering prices at the grocery store. they're talking about, you know, a ban on price gouging at the grocery store. these things are policies that would need the support of congress. how do democrats get legislation like this passed through congress if kamala harris is the winner? >> first of all, obviously we have to win, and then we have to have majorities in both houses, and we have to have a president and a vice president, and as you know in the senate, we might need the vice president to break a tie. so obviously that's the predicate for success. but, look, i think, katy, on this issue of greed-flation and price gouging, i happen to be one of the leaders of price gouging bill in the senate. there can be an investigation,

evidence has to be presented, and at the end of the presentation of evidence, a determination is made about whether there is gouging. but people want us to take action. they don't want us to just surrender to it and say, well, there's nothing we can do about prices skyrocketing, especially in the pandemic and post pandemic period. so i hear about this everywhere i go in pennsylvania. people want us to take action to figure out ways to lower their costs or at least not have costs go higher for the price of food, but also child care, rent, housing generally, and basic costs in the lives of families. >> senator bob casey, thank you very much, as we watch president biden and first lady, dr. jill biden deplane air force one with what looks like a couple of his grand kids. president biden will be giving the keynote speech at the democratic national convention, introduced by his wife, dr. jill biden, and it should be really interesting to watch.

we have been reporting on hard feelings, especially among dr. biden about how things went down with the pressure to have her husband step aside. senator casey, thank you, again. we have obviously also reached out to senator dave mccormick's campaign. he is welcome on the show as well. coming up, we are live on the ground in new york where former congressman george santos is in court. what's happening at a hearing where he's facing fraud charges. don't go anywhere. e. hi, i'm sal. i'm from phoenix, arizona. i'm a flight nurse on a helicopter that specializes in trauma. i had a fear that i wouldn't be able to keep up. i wanted all the boost i could get! i heard about prevagen from a friend. i read the clinical study on it and it had good reviews. i've been taking prevagen now for five years and it's really helped me stay sharp and present. it's really worked for me. prevagen. at stores everywhere without a prescription.

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