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tonight was the fourth and final night of the democratic national convention and what a night it was. i mean, this was one of those rare moments where you can actually feel like history is

being made. maybe you're watching it on your couch, maybe you were with fred, maybe you are in your pajamas, wherever you were, history was made tonight. vice president kamala harris officially accepted the democratic nomination for president of the united states. only the second woman and first black woman to ever do so. just one month to the day after she visited campaign headquarters and took over this campaign. i cannot even overstate how big of a deal what a short timeline that is and we will talk about that. at the end of the night, balloons rained down in chicago to the tune of thunderous applause. you can see all the balloons right there. a celebratory cap to a celebratory convention. everything we have seen and heard that led us to this moment tonight, it was all a build up to tonight, that's how conventions work and when kamala harris took the state and accepted the nomination and delivered and gave her speech it was one hell of a speech and she did with one hell of a

delivery. was fierce, it was fearless, it was a bold, she looked like the president but it wasn't the speech she was planning to give just over one month ago. regardless of that, she missed the moment on a crudely short notice and delivered a speech that was, more than anything, a celebration of america. hopefully politics is about how you make people feel and tonight, she probably made a lot of people out there feel she was ready for this job. >> i know there are people of various political views watching tonight. and i want you to know i promise to be a president for all americans. you can always trust me to put country above party and self. to hold sacred america's fundamental rentable from the rule of law to free and fair election to to the peaceful transfer of power. i will be a president who

unites us around our highest aspirations. a president who leads and listens , who is realistic, practical, and has common sense. and always fights for the american people. from the courthouse to the white house, that has been my life's work. we are the heirs to the greatest democracy in the history of the world. and on behalf of our children and our grandchildren and all those who sacrificed so dearly for our freedom and liberty, we must be worthy of this moment. it is

now our turn to do what generations before us have done. guided by optimism and faith to fight for this country we love, to fight for the ideals being cherished and to uphold the awesome responsibility that comes with the greatest privilege on earth, the privilege and pride of being an american. [ applause ] so let's get out there, let's fight for it, let's get out there, let's vote for it. and together, let us write the next chapter in

the most extraordinary story ever told! >> that was a good speech. obviously we have a lot to talk to tonight. what it means, where we go from here in the moments that stuck out to all of us. joining me here on set of the cohost of msnbc the weekend michael still, former chief spokesperson for vice president harris, simone sanders townsend. i'm sure that was quite personal. we will talk about that in the great alicia menendez. in chicago, joy reed, alex wagner, and jacob soboroff who don't seem to be covered in balloons anymore so that is a good note to start on. joy, let me start with you. we have been talking all week about what this convention is really celebrating. the america that we all live in, that you have grown up in. a lot of people have grown up in. and that is not the america

always celebrated. it certainly wasn't the one celebrated just a few weeks ago point so joy, let me start with you. just talk to us a little bit about how it struck you even on a personal level, too. >> i mean it is interesting because, you know, on the other side, donald trump has been married to two emigrants, he had three baby mamas and two of them are immigrants but this rejection is a, his vice presidential running mate, jd vance is married to somebody from an immigrant, a brown immigrant, at that. this projection of the idea that immigrants are -- where as on the side, on the democratic side, what you are seeing is this incredible delivery celebration of the diversity of the american equivalent that the america quilt includes people from kansas and nebraska and wyoming.

and pride with happiness to be successful and also the black woman whose mom came from india and whose dad came from jamaica and somebody of a caribbean background, my mom had an accident. that is totally normal for me to be an american whose parents have actions from somewhere else, that came from somewhere else to be here and that is just completely normal for so many americans. but the republican side has this weird fixation with it as being un-american. but that is literally what america is. like that is literally the construction of the country. so i think what we see here is whether you are republican, independent, democrat, whatever, whoever you are, they are saying coming to the family reunion, we don't have to agree on everything. we don't have to be alike in every way but we are all at the reunion and we are all having fun. i'll get balloons and we all get cake. >> which, by the way. makes you feel good but it is

also smart political strategy. everyone is invited. the guy with the mullet is invited. leaders are invited. the mullet guy. >> alex, you have talked a lot about the impact and the discussion of mothers. i have been struck by how love and family and generational impacts has really been so somatic. has been warm and fuzzy in many moments. what has struck you about that piece of it? >> i think after 2016 there was a fair share of american electorate that felt like it had been punched through the looking glass and everything they thought about this country both in terms of like inclusivity, racial progress, moral and ethical values had been deflated and wiped clean and that the obama years were an anomaly and stronger than that, that the country would not what they thought it was. and so i think you have a certain amount of joy that was going to take and no matter what because of what kamala harris represents but what i sent here is a relief, almost a catharsis like oh, we do

recognize this country. and the values are the values we kind of thought they were before trump came into office and they could be the dominant value through the white house once again and that has created is owned sort of self perpetuating cycle of elation and joy and excitement and optimism. and i think it has been, in some ways, delivered in the context of family, right? we are bringing all the people together but really ultimately it is about the nationstate and what the democrats and families is a placeholder for the nationstate, the kind of families that were presented on stage tonight, which are inclusive, multiethnic, multiracial, maybe even multiparty are ones that can, in turn, be presented and reflected in the nation. >> it is the sense of positivity is working on a

number of different levels. and i was prepared for democrats to be excited about this but it is like a whole other level and it is not just the 100,000 balloons. >> there were a lot of balloons watching it. >> okay, jacob, you have been climbing into the vice presidents sweets. >> it has been really nice to sit down in a chair point >> you were looking for beyond a backstage. she wasn't there. you have been to so many conventions, including the one a couple of weeks ago. what has struck you in terms of the differences between them and maybe what has been unique about this convention in comparison with even past years? >> i will echo what alex and joy both said. this felt like a conversation about neighbors and friends and family whereas, and this is no secret, i said it many times

before. the republican convention was straight up deeply disturbing and i think there is one moment at the convention that made that crystal clear and that is thousands of people holding up signs that said mass deportation. the republican party's form, literally consists of removing over 10 million people from the united states of america, many of whom are our neighbors, a totally different context there and our friends and our family so talking that neighbors and friends and families, the republicans want to remove 11 million of them from this country and the deportation effort that is orders of magnitude bigger than the 1954 operation by dwight d. eisenhower with a name so offensive i don't think it is appropriate to say on television the republicans were proud of that. at the end of that convention, i remember standing in the balloons, bouncing on my head and it felt, it just felt bizarre to be standing there like what a bizarre world, we are having a party where we talked about kicking out people who are the fabric of the united states of america and here come you look at the state and that looked like a family

that is the fabric of the united states of america as balloons fell all around them. >> it was more of an invitation, come on in, everybody. you are all invited to the party. simone, you worked so closely for the vice president. i said earlier, and you know her so much better than i do. but when you're with her, she has this magical charisma but then everybody doesn't always see it at every moment and i think people really thought tonight. but what was it like for you to watch that having spent many, many hours, days, a month of your life traveling around the country with her? >> you know, the person i saw on stage tonight, that is the kamala harris that i know and frankly i think a lot of people, and let's be very clear, this is the biggest stage, she is going to have the biggest audience prior to election day. so there's a lot she had to do in the speech tonight. she needed to come in her own words, even though all week we heard her contextualized and

humanized and all these people that knew her really well. talking about her record all week. able who had worked with her point we heard about fighting a bank, taking on the cartel, right? all of the things. but nothing could substitute the vice president, and her own words, telling us, the american people, exactly who she is, where she comes from, what she stands for, the values that drive her everyday and then what kind of president she would be. and lastly, what she would do. what does she believe, what is the policy? when i was talking to voters over the last couple weeks they had experienced what they called a glitch. the key question they had is i don't know much about her. i don't know what she would do and so there was a lot she had to do tonight but she did it. she does not get up there and take a victory lap which is quintessential kamala harris, frankly. she wasn't wearing white, there was a lot of people wearing white in the audience tonight as a nod to the history being made and particularly, 60 years ago, went to a convention and the mississippi freedom democratic party and now, 60 years later, not only do black

people, not only are black people seated in the mississippi delegation, a black woman, a black woman of south asian dissent, this is historic, yet. kamala harris had on a blue suit, honey. there is still work to do. and every single detail of her speech of what she was wearing, of how she stood and what she said, it was intentional to say i am here, i am, select me not just because i will make history, elect me because i'm a patriot. elect me because my family is like your family. i grew up like you. i was a child of divorced parents. my family, some of my family is chosen family, not by blood. these are things that were very important to lay the groundwork where she is. and then you build up to policy. we saw a president, we saw commander in chief. she was very clear about the kind of person donald trump is, she says things directly to that dance around it and i believe that people needed to hear that in order to get that

ball continue to roll because as of september 6 in pennsylvania people will start voting. >> i didn't think of that when she looks fantastic i feel like she did look fantastic but she did look like she could walk right into the situation room and she was ready to report for duty. i think the other piece that was really interesting is about the gender piece, right? because that is a choice. it is a choice, it is clear she is the first, should be the first black woman, the first woman of asian american dissent. she is the first woman, of course. a lot of history here. it is bill very self apparent, you know how barack obama used to feel, right? obviously he would be the first black president but he wouldn't say to people all the time. what you think about that choice? >> the historic part of the candidacy, right? she was focused on the stakes. i want to add everything you said. to me it had that sort of marshall gann story of self where she told her own story,

then did the store of how my story is your story and then she landed where she needed to land which was the story of now. the moment that we, as americans, find ourselves in. we are making an x essential choice. right? we are not choose between two candidates. where choose between two vastly different visions of where this country is going. in this case, it is very specific. do we want to continue to be a democracy or not? that is a decision that voters have to make. they are not voting for her as an avatar. they are voting for a path forward and i think she made that choice really clear. >> no question. >> so two things. one was a text that i got at the end of the speech that said pick >> who is it from? >> i cannot say. >> was at a republican? >> it was a republican and i cannot tell you. but it was straightforward.

now that's how a person becomes president of the united states. full stop. second one was my own tweet, which was [ laughter ] which was , i can't wait for september 10th, baby. i've got my popcorn. i got my bourbon. i am ready for this debate. donald trump, i hope you're ready. i really do, do. i really do because you are about to get tore up. okay, so now that i got out of my system. the critical thing, though, in creation of all that was exactly what my colleagues said. the framing of this night for her was already set in motion before she got on the stage. and so point >> the buildup during the convention? >> it began at the ringing of the bell on monday through the moment her name was announced to come out. and it was laid out for the country, all the narratives,

all the narratives, which simone and alecia just identified about this person who wants to be your president. and what i, and i frame it that way deliberately because that was the feel that you got from this convention. humbly i want to be your president. if you will allow it. the republican convention was this is over, i am ready, we measured the drapes, i'm going back in and all y'all who dissed me, i am coming for you. and that, you saw the compare and contrast of these two events, even though they are spread out over time. she brought them close together tonight. she brought them close together and so adam kinzinger, we will talk about some of the other speeches tonight. all of those narratives sort of

filled in that back story. she came in and she just physically said okay, everything they said. let me get close, let's talk about that. let me tell you personally eye to eye who i am. let me tell you why i am doing this. and let me tell you what i'm going to do. and at that point that is how you run for president. >> there you go. michael did a perfect you up there because we had lumbar parts of the speech we are going to show and talk about. all we are going to dig into. joy reed, alex wagner, jacob over rough, don't dive into balloons. thank you for being with us. get some sleep. congresswoman jasmine crockett is a close friend of kamala harris and she joins us next. don't go anywhere, we will be right back.

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>> my early memories of our parents together are very joyful ones. a home filled with laughter and music. aretha, cole train and miles. at the park, my mother would say stay close. but my father would say, as he smiled, run, kamala, run, don't be afraid, don't let anything stop you.

>> don't let anything stop you. i mean, that was a big part of her bio that she still she told in her speech tonight. jasmine crockett of texas until she was just the vice president harris point she also brought the house down herself earlier this week so congratulations on that, too. tell us about you just saw the vice president. she just brought the house down herself. >> it feels fantastic. the one thing that i know about this vice president is that she believes in hard work. in the midst of having this huge time, this historic time here in chicago, we know that she actually was still out on the trail. and what i want the american people to think about is do you really want somebody who was posted up in their mansion all the time telling you how hard they are going to work for you? or do you want somebody that is going to show you, showing up in your community and asking you for your support and telling you what policies it is that she has, that she is

willing to offer. listen, she says tonight we celebrate but tomorrow we work and i truly embody that and i don't get to go home. in detroit, michigan first thing in the morning. >> good for you. and that is such an important message we heard over and over again. how is she feeling? the vice president? >> she seems to be feeling great. she knows what it means to run a hard race. she has run hard races her entire life and she continued to shatter these glass ceilings, these glass ceiling that most people felt like were impossible. in fact, so many times, you know, when we look at something attorney general of california, there still hasn't been another black woman. she knows how to bust through a door and get things done. and the only reason that she has been able to continually elevate is because she has a record that shows that as she

stated in her speeches, i stated in my speech and as secretary clinton stated in her speech, she has had one client and that has been the people and that is who she is here to serve and we know donald trump is only here to serve himself. >> she kept this fearlessness that she has been projecting. she did on stage tonight and in the last several weeks. but she also projected this heart and her connections of her mother, her sister, you told this really touching story during your speech about how you were just newly in congress, you are taking a photo with her, i believe it was at her residence and she spotted something in your eye that you didn't feel, something was off, i guess is how i would describe it. tell us a little bit more about , because you also spent time talking to her about who she is as a human being that you want people to know out there. see she is fearless, she could be the commander-in-chief, what else do you want to know? >> just need to know that she

is someone who is authentic i think a lot of people come up to me and they say that, you know, crockett, we love you. i don't think that there is anything that extraordinary about me. i think what they see is something different than what they are used to see in politicians and that is authenticity. i want them to know that she is a real one and that is why i told the story the way i told the story is because i wanted them to know that she is more than just a politician and it can get confusing because i get confused. >> we're talking that someone who is willing to pour into a freshman black woman who didn't know very much to offer. when you get to d.c. it is all about how much money do you have, how much money can you raise and you know, what positions do you hold? and so here it is. i didn't have anything to offer. but that is not how we looked. and so when she talked about lifting people up, but she continued to say over and over at rallies and various places

she talks about the importance. i want people to know that that is not how the campaigns feel. that is something that she believes in. while i was on that stage i was talking about the initial interactions i had with the vice president. i do want people to know that we have had a number of other ones. in fact, on the day that president joe biden decided that he was going to step aside, i was sitting and waiting to go on msnbc with a hot mic when she called me. most people wouldn't imagine that i would even be anywhere on the list of people to call considering, again, now we are talking about the most important 24 hours she has to show that she can raise money and build a coalition and she did all that. obviously she did not waste all of her phone calls calling the biggest donors, she decided to call people like little old me. and it means the world so i want people to know that this is somebody who sees and values everyone. she doesn't place a value on you based on how much money you

bring to the table and we know that that is who donald trump seamlessly caters to is the big money people. those are the only people he cares about and i was so excited because tonight, one of the things that she said is you know what? my policy actually cut taxes for the middle class and the entire arena just roared because that is the relief that middle-class folks are looking for. they are just looking for a break to make sure that hopefully they can raise the next kamala harris and give them a lot of opportunities because they do have a few more dollars in their bank account. >> yeah, there you go. money is part of it. we have been trying to play, and we're going to play much more of her speech. people are catching clips. want to play some of it and talk about it on the other side. our opponents in this race are out there every day denigrating america. talking about how terrible everything is . well, my mother had another

lesson she used to teach. never let anyone tell you who you are. you show them who you are. >> i love that, it had a big, broad message. i also felt like it was speaking to introducing her to the american public, right? people who have been saying who she is for years now and she was introducing herself on the biggest stage tonight which i thought was really powerful. what did you make of that part of the speech? >> it is so true. it is like we heard all the rhetoric over and over about how she is a dei hire and minimizing our accomplishments and her abilities all at one time. what she was trying to say is like yeah, you can talk noise about me all you want, but i can show you that i am we are going to see exactly she has

been able to ascend to the highest office that any woman has held in the united states. we are going to see why she will become president of the united states because she understand, unfortunately, how the rules have always been. she has to work 10 times as hard just to get half as far as somebody like donald trump. we can look at this election. the fact that there is even a question about whether or not he can be elected tells you the difference that we have had in the this country. you are talking about someone who has worked her way up and you are talking about someone else who has never ever had to work for anything a day in his life and yet he is still looking for another handout. he is looking, you know, we heard it from michelle obama. and i even alluded to it. this is a guy who will continue to fail us. that is never an option for us and it has never been an option for kamala harris she did not fail us point she worked her way up and she is going to work her way through until november 5th. i can promise you, no team

out there is going to work harder than the democrats. and when i say the democrats, i mean all of us. everybody talks about how we are big tent party, the entire tent is about to get this business and we about to get this election done. >> there you go. well this convention is also about introducing the public to huge rising stars and you are certainly one of them point congresswoman jasmine crockett, thank you so much. good luck in detroit tomorrow. coffee, snacks, whatever combination of things. appreciate you joining us. a lot more to get to tonight, a lot more highlights, more special guest from chicago. don't go anywhere. ( ♪ ♪ )

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as we have brought solutions where people thought the problem was unsolvable. daniel doesn't take excuses. he holds himself accountable. and i know that he can do it for the city of san francisco. get this, he plans to create a national antiabortion coordinator. and force states to report on women's miscarriages and abortions. simply put, they are out of their minds. and one must ask, one must ask why exactly is it that they don't trust women? well, we

trust women. we trust women. and when congress passes a bill to restore reproductive freedom , as president of the united states i will proudly sign it into law. >> that was a good line, got a good response in the room, too. vice president kamala harris pulled no punches tonight but comes to donald trump the agenda for a second term especially when it comes to reproductive freedom. we have our panel here. we are all giddy, have lots to talk about women's rights and abortion right so i will start with the ladies, of course. what vice president has been doing for months that people weren't digesting and seeing worth visiting college campuses and she went to an abortion clinic with tim walz in

minnesota. that was very fortuitous in many ways. this is part of kind of her superpower i think, how she talks about this issue. how she believes this is one of the fights of our time but what do you think about that part of the speech and kind of the impact her half of the ticket could have on this issue. >> i think she stands a the duality that it is very motivating for an audience that is invalidly pro-choice. it is also validating for audience that has not traditionally thought of themselves as pro- choice or even thought of themselves as pro-life but look at what donald trump was able to accomplish during his presidency, what the supreme court has done that he installed and said that is too much. that is extreme. that is government overreach and i cannot stand on the side of people who want that to be this is ridiculous this is a

gut check for people who say this is how you want to live, you want to live where the government tracks your every move? you want to live where the government is in your business to that degree so that speaks to the audience who may or may not be there big issue. but it is an issue i want extremism, government or not? kind of a bigger, broader message. i alluded to her message over the last couple of months. kamala harris, actually have been in that frustrating position where i said i wish people could see this part. you don't see it. but talk to us a little bit about, because you have listened to her and talk about abortion rights and the threat of it. over the last couple of years, when the public wasn't focusing on her role in this. how does she feel about it personally. what do you want the public to see? >> i think the freedom. and we have talked about this a lot, right? how freedom is one thing that previously, if used to be

something that was very closely associated with republicans and i think we heard the former first lady obama said earlier this week nobody has a monopoly on what it means to be american. the apparatus does not own patriotism. does not own freedom and vice president harris has actually taken that back but this is not some thing new. is not like she just switched on a month ago and started talking about freedom. has been talking about freedom on the state for a long time. for a long time that is how he got elected. she talked about freedom as the right to vote, the freedom of decisions about your own body point the freedom to make the decision in your life. the freedom to love we want to love, live where you would like to live. the kind of education you want to get. and it started with her talking about the right to vote and the freedom. and so these, the venn diagrams pick >> she loves venn diagrams. >> overlapping and makes sense

of the american people. and i just, you know, she had to do a lot on that stage but we saw earlier this week, and her husband, we saw kate cox and her husband point we saw kalin and joshua. these people who have very harrowing stories that are not the traditional stories we tell ourselves about the people who get abortions in america. >> that is very true. a lot of people want children. >> pregnant again right now. >> she is pregnant again. we are coming fully back to your tweet that you referenced here where you quoted, because she did have a very powerful. >> the best part of that. >> part of the speech on abortion rights, huge issue, but she says, a line in there you kind of love. >> no, you know, what is wrong with these people ask are they crazy? and that idea i thought was very powerful. to get the exact quote because it is important. when she says, where is it, i

got it right here. where is it? >> highlighting it. >> yes, i am. where is my highlighter? >> let me stop you, sir, hold on. >> it is the idea, what is wrong with you. what is wrong with these people? and for me, that line summed up my party since 2016. it is this idea that, you know, everything that i knew going into 2015 about being a republican and the battle that i had with my fellow democrats and friends who, you know, americans who are on the opposite side of the aisle, if you will. all of that seemed to just go away like that. and i am standing there and i am watching it happen and i am looking around for help from,

you know, the leaders of my party and i am like, where y'all going? what happened? and so tonight, in so many ways in that moment when she said that it just really struck me how long that journey has been and how that put such a fine point on it in terms of how it started, how we got to where we are. and then adam and olivia troy and mayor giles, they all sort of came to the rescue that i thought my other republican leaders in the senate and in the house would come to that point. >> you wish more would come. they are all invited. there is still time before the election. a very quick break. coming up, we are going to talk about how kamala harris called out donald trump to cozying up to dictator tonight. fresh off his speech at the dnc, as well as standing by and we will talk to him after the

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as president, i will never waver in defense of america about security and ideals, because in the enduring struggle between democracy and tyranny, i know where i stand, and i know where the united dates belongs. >> that was vice president,, lane harris, on the struggle

between democracy and tyranny in the national security portion of her speech. and joining us from chicago is tech is texas congressman, aaron allred, he is running against ted cruz, that guy, for senate. and also addressed the convention earlier tonight. we know you are up late with us, we appreciate it. you are on the foreign relations committee. tonight cannot just in vice president's you had ruben gallego speak, you had some national security endorsements and reminders of this threat of trump. and what did you think about the national security portion of her? >> for some pokes, it might not be the first issue they think about when they are going to vote, but there is nothing, you know, more important than who is going to be our next commander-in-chief in how they see the world and how the world sees them, and i think we have seen how the world sees donald trump, and i heard the vice

president tonight say, you know that they can manipulate it, and on the foreign affairs committee, as i have traveled the world. i hear foreign-born leaders as well, a concern about, well, we are glad the united states is back right now. we don't know how long he will be back. and part of our global leadership is this idea that we can be counted on and, when we have, you know, someone running for president, openly talking about a pending everything that has kept a safe, all of the systems that we have put in place in a multilateral way, to keep the world moving forward and progressing, folks starts to wonder. so, the selection is incredibly important for our country, but the world is watching. >> congressman, alecia menendez here tonight. certainly tonight they are big impact for down ballot races, some states in three weeks. you have got 59 days until early voting starts in texas, how you harness and maintain the enthusiasm that we have

seen tonight? >> yeah. well, you know, in a lot of ways, it is about what is happening in texas, her and josh, i thought they were so brave, the way they told their story about how they were denied care and now, her fertility is at risk. we talked about k, and the fantastic news that she is going to be welcoming another child, but what she had to go through, and i have met some of the other who had to flee our state to get the care they need. some of the stuff that the vice president was talking about tonight that donald trump wants to do nationally is happening right now in texas. so, we have to make sure that what we do is we take the energy that we have here and center these next few weeks to get texans engaged. the truth is, we don't have to be embarrassed by our senator in texas, we can get a new one. we are in in an incredible he tight race right now and what i need folks to understand is that if you want to get

involved, you can go to callonalred.com. i have been devised most bipartisan secretary in congress. i will do that in the senate as well. >> congressman, before we let you get a little bit of rest, speaking of texas, speaking of your opponent in texas, senator, ted cruz, debate, you are going to do that, he wants to do that, how many times you want to do it? >> yeah. i am sure we will have a debate. we have got to get all of that worked out, you know? it is a very clear distinction, and i think you know this, we have-- i am the most bipartisan texan in congress. 12 years of being such an extremist that, just recently we have tried to actually turn that around and act like a responsible senator. so, for us, we can't afford to have six more years like this. this pits us against each other. who is more interested in hearing himself talk that showing up. decides to go on vacation to

cancun, that is not who we are. and i am a fourth generation texan. i will tell you, we are going to show up and send a message to the whole country. >> everybody wants to get texas out there. congressman, colin allred, thank you for joining us, we appreciate it, another hour of convention coverage. lots more to talk about. we appreciate you staying with us, we will be right back. or square (♪♪) you were made to chase your passions. we were made to put them in a package.

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it was just one month ago that harris visited campaign headquarters and took over the campaign, just one month. i mean, before that she was working on an entirely different speech, one for the vice presidential nominee. but tonight, harris spoke to a sea of suffragette wives as delicates and members of congress were set for this moment, that wouldn't have been the case over a moment ago. she spoke to her own sisters from alpha kappa alpha, all to lift up, lane harris, who shared with the american people tonight who she is, where she comes from, what she stands for, and definitely what she stands against. >> consider what he intends to do if we give him power again. consider his explicit intent to set free violent extremists who assaulted those law enforcement officers at the capitol.

his explicit intent to jail journalists, political opponents and anyone he sees as the enemy. his explicit intent to deploy our active duty military against our own citizens. consider consider the power he will have especially after the united states supreme court just ruled that he would be immune from criminal prosecution. just imagine, donald trump with no guardrails. and how he would use the immense powers of the presidency of the united states not to improve your life, not to

strengthen our national security, but to serve the only client has ever had. himself. we know what a second trump term would look like. it is all laid out in project 2025, written by his closest advisors and it's sum total is to pull our country back to the past but america, we are not going back. we are not going back. we are not going back. we are not going back. two and donald trump tried to cut social security and medicare. we are not going back to when he tried to get rid of the affordable care act. when insurance companies could deny people with pre-existing conditions. we are not going to let him

eliminate the department of education that funds our public schools. we are not going to let him and programs, like headstart that provides free schools and childcare for our children. america, we are not going back. >> onset with me this hour, the cohost of msnbc the weekend, cochairman, michael steele, and spokesperson for vice president, symone sanders-townsend, and one of our favorite late-night warriors who made or may not have slept since we do this last night, tim miller, and also with us from chicago, ian sam, a senior advisor for the harris-walz campaign. ian, you are on what, day four of your campaign? day four, they fight? >> that's right, it is my fourth day, it is a pretty good day.

>> it is a pretty good day to be on the campaign. so, you work for vice president harris, back when she ran for president in 2019, what was it like being in the hall today and seeing the person you worked for, you spent years trying to get her the nomination a couple of years ago, accepted tonight? >> it is pretty inspiring actually, i think tonight you saw in the room and you heard from the vice president, a really patriotic message about loving this country, and believing in what we can be. as she likes to say, unburdened by what has been. we have the option to find a new way forward, to turn the page from the past, to turn the page from the chaos and the division that president trump represents command to actually try to help people and make their lives better, while defending our fundamental freedoms that are at stake in this election. so, it was really moving to be here, to see people waving american flags, doing usa chance and believing that we could actually be the country

that we were founded to be. there is energy and joy in this campaign, while also, as you guys displayed, a candidate prosecuting against donald trump. >> no question about it. there is this combination of joy, and also fierceness that you saw over the course of the convention. one of the things we heard in her speech, and over the course of the last two days is this reframing freedom, reframing patriotism. it felt a little organic a couple weeks ago, and now it felt like it was on a messaging document in every speech that we heard over the last couple of days. is that going to be a central argument and a central part of the messaging we are going to hear from the harris-walz campaign over the next couple of months? >> yeah, i think for too long publicans have tried to claim the mantle of freedom, at the same time that they have been executing a policy agenda that rips those freedoms away, whether it is economic freedom, whether it is reproductive freedom, whether it is the

freedom to vote. these are the things that donald trump of the project 2025 agenda is trying to take away. things that, when he was president they eroded, when you appoint supreme court justices that overturn roe v wade and i think that what you see, from vice president harris is someone who represents the american dream, and she talked about this tonight. a working mother, who raised her and her sister, maya, growing up in a working-class neighborhood, understanding those struggles, understanding how people scrape by to make ends meet and to make a better life for themselves and offer a vision that offers people to get better and move up the economic ladder, stuff that they are not hearing from president trump, who, even tonight called into foxnews that was beeping his phone with his cheek, because he was so rattled by what he saw on the stage here tonight, so i think you are going to cs proudly waving the flag of patriotism in this campaign, because she represents what america can be and she is not letting a vision that speaks to the american

people's needs and what makes their lives better. >> you communicate about the positive agenda, you do all of the communication, you are a very good attack dog, i know this because i have worked with you, and anyone who has worked on the campaign with does this. thinking about the best attack lines against donald trump. we heard a lot of them tonight in her speech. what you think the best attack line against donald trump is out there? >> i think that you heard it from her tonight. she, for her whole life has been someone who has represented the people, what has donald trump done? he has looked out for himself. i think when you look at what is at stake in the selection, you want a candidate who is articulating a vision to make your life better, to bring down costs for you to protect your freedoms, your ability as a family to come as governor walz said, make your own decision without people butting in? is that what you want? what you want someone who is every day waking up, rage true thing about what everything is on his mind, electric sharks, or some other grievance that he has that nobody really

understands? is that what you want, is that someone who is actually going to wake up everyday and try to make your life better? or is it the one who's just going to wake up to try to get attention for something that he thinks is a perceived wrong to himself? we have lived through that for 4 years and i think that people are onto his game and i think that when they see vice president harris articulate the vision that she has for the country, like they did tonight on issue after issue after issue and lay out how, on those exact same issues donald trump and his team, even if donald trump is busy rage true thing, he has got 18 that will be trying to take away your freedoms and make your economic life worse. that is the choice, it is between someone who is fighting for you and someone only fighting for themselves. >> rage true thing, that is sort of a t-shirt for donald trump. >> welcome i think tim has one of those t-shirts actually. >> tim has a rage true thing. >> we like a rage true thing t- shirt. everybody wants one. okay. i wanted to ask you two about the republicans as well. because we saw adam kinsinger.

he gave a pretty powerful speech tonight there a couple of others over the last couple of days are they going to be out there on the trail? will we see other republicans perhaps we didn't see during the convention out on the trail for, lane harris over the next couple of months? >> welcome i think that hopefully we do, because i think you see people like this congressman, who are willing to have the courage to stand up and say, the republican party of donald trump is not the republican party that they know and love, and our campaign is one that welcomes people who wants to put the country over party, who welcome people who believe in the fundamental values of this country that the constitution laid out all those years ago, and doesn't want to shred it up to the sake of one man. so, when you see congressman kinsinger and a former official who says i am willing to speak out, that does take courage and i hope it resonates with people

who are out there at home and understand that there's a place for them in this party and in this campaign and vice president harris as she laid out in her speech, she is going to be for you, whether you are an democrat, independent, or none of the above. >> they four is not always like today, i think you should know, i think you do know. but as tim walz said, we will sleep when we are dead, so good luck over the coming weeks and months, thank you so much for staying up late with us this evening, and i am just going to bring it back to the table here, and tim, we tried to show you-- >> what was happening? i didn't go anywhere. >> maybe you have a t-shirt on underneath there. rage tweets? >> i think he is just talking about my social media behavior. >> so, tim, you also have a history of attacks. we love it. what did you make of her trump argument tonight and the pieces in it?

was anything missing? was anything you don't think needed to be in there? >> no, i thought she was phenomenal tonight, honestly. i think that from a never trump perspective, our people are avoided, they are overjoyed. >> very happy. >> it was right on the plate for what, i think, former republicans, independents, these types of swing voters were looking for tonight and you show that very long list. all of that was good. my favorite one you didn't include though, which was when she said i will not give to a dictator like kim jong-un, who are rooting for donald trump. she never use that line. rooting for donald trump. think about that, the dictators are rooting for him because they see him as one of them. i thought that was a very powerful attack speaking to this kind of national security type of republican, hopefully some of these people on the campaign trail, republican types. and a lot of them don't think knew about donald trump hole

foreign-policy. something i have been saying in the secret never trumper meetings over the past three months. yes, there are secret meetings, text exchanges, and secret meetings, i don't realize how strong she is on this type of stuff, how aligned she has, the kind of bipartisan tradition on american strength, working with our allies, and how hostile she is to this isolationist, authoritarian, kind of donald trump, jd vance movement. and i think she did a really good job of drawing that contrast tonight. and there are some people who will say to me this is pretty good right? >> it is interesting, because it probably was a national security night, there was a national security theme, it is not always what everybody votes on. but this is a very different year. you agree with him? is this kind of a message that could appeal to, you know, never trumpers who are trying to figure out if they support her? independence? >> absolutely, oh my gosh, yeah. look. what you had, and tim just, alluded to.

this understanding between the two parties. going back to the end of the second world war, that the water's edge, you know, is where we come together on foreign-policy, and it is about the strength of america, it's position in the global space. you know, standing with our allies, defeating our enemies, right? and that got disrupted in 2016. and you had an asymmetrical player, politically, but you had a-- an apostate to that world order, and donald trump turned the system on its head. so, what you saw tonight, i think, to tim's excellent point is the correction. and letting -- not just americans, broadly speaking, specifically those that are in this space.

there are a lot of people in the foreign-policy of international space and-- yeah. that are very concerned about what happens on january 21st. the day after the inauguration. >> as they should be. he is basically-- trump is basically saying he wants to do the same thing over and over again, on the jd vance playbook. she did talk about january 6th, and i want to ask you about that, because you are working for her on january 6th, so we will talk about it. >> donald trump is an unserious man. but the consequences-- but the consequences of putting donald trump back in the white house are extremely serious. consider-- consider, not only the chaos and calamity, when he was in office, but also the gravity of what has happened since he lost the last election.

donald trump tried to throw away your votes. when he failed, he sent an armed mob to the united states capitol, where they assaulted law enforcement officers. when politicians in his own party begged him to call off the mob and send help, he did the opposite. he fanned the flames. >> i thought that was such a powerful part. and january 6th, someone talked about it, some who live in washington and work in washington, people have visceral reactions. i think we saw that, but you were working for her, this was during a transition. >> yeah. i mean the vice president was at the united states capital that they could first, she went for an intelligence briefing, a

senate intelligence briefing earlier, then she left the capitol, and that day we were at the democratic national committee headquarters, which is literally two blocks from the capitol. and she wanted to watch the ballots being brought over the ceremonial procession, if you will, we were supposed records digital videos and you know, but we are sitting in the conference room, watching the ballots being brought over, we are having a conversation, the secret service comes in me, i am very calm we know those bombs were life. the video that was played about january 6th last night at the convention is a video i think everybody needs to see multiple times. >> so jarring. >> so jarring, because people forget. people forget what happened that day on the misinformation and the lies of republican members of congress, specifically, who were there and running for their lives it is just important to remind people every single day, because right now apparently donald

trump is about to have a gala for the january 6th insurrection is expected january 6th thing is important, because of the democracy argument, but there's another issue there, where, again, democrats are co-opting a republican thing back in the blue. she mentioned that specifically, they were-- he sent them to attack police. you know, she mentions the police specifically. i just -- as a bigger picture across all of the stuff she is so in it to win it. this is a speech that was like -- i want to get 53% of the vote, like maybe not, maybe we won't get that high, but i am trying to speak to the biggest, broadest part of the country. like i am not, you know, during the box checking state of the union speech where we try to appeal to everybody in the coalition right? we are trying to get as broad as possible these big themes, what unites us as americans, and what divides us, and what people are disgusted by, such as attacking cops at the

capitol, because want to steal an election. and i just thought the whole speech said to me this was somebody who was like we are going big. >> go ahead. >> and i see why that is important, why tim said is important. i've been saying for a while and talking to a number of folks in and around various parts of the campaign and you know, the republican space, this is a matter of overwhelming the ballot box. this is-- those battleground states y'all need to turn out, i mean, y'all need to turn out like it is sunday morning and the minister is saying this is the key to heaven right? because you have got to make it that personal. and across the country i think for a lot of folks that is going to-- i think she gets that piece of it. >> the urgency. >> the urgency of it. and the idea that we can do this bigger than just winning by one.

you know, 50.1. we can do this bigger, it is not just about hitting 8 million, 9 million, 12 million more popular votes than donald trump it is about an electoral college, like blowout. it is an overwhelming blowout to tim's point, you get there? we don't know, but we have got to try. >> plan for more than 271. >> so, they have to, they have to remind people, because he is already saying the crowds are ai. he, as a donald trump. >> you know! he knows. >> we know what he is going to do. and i think that his playbook, to your point, is practice speaking to them. >> we have to take a very, very quick rake. more highlights to talk about gun safety activist, david hodges stopping by later this hour, don't go anywhere, we will be right back. >> my mother, she worked long hours, and like many working parents she leaned on a trusted circle to help raise us.

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brought together democrats and conservative republicans to write the strongest border bill in decades. the border patrol endorsement. but donald trump believes a border deal what hurt his campaign. so, he ordered his allies in congress to kill the deal. well i refuse to play politics with our security. and here is my pledge to you. as president, i will bring back the bipartisan border security bill that he killed, and i will sign it into law. >> vice president, kamala harris, talking about border security tonight and blasting donald trump, for killing a bipartisan deal that would have helped to secure it, a very conservative bipartisan bill, by the way, michael steals and tim miller are still with us. so, what i love about the fact that you talked about border security and she wasn't the

first person to talk about border security, chris murphy did it, it is basically diving into a week this if you look at the polling, i don't mean a weakness in terms of her position or a weakness, in terms of what the democrats for the biden-harris supported, but when you look at the polling, what do you think about that? >> by far the most effective attack on her, if you look at the polling. the blueprints to the breakdown of all of the different attacks and you know, all of the rates and stuff backfires, oh, she is an ddi candidate or she is not a work with. so, they go there, if you want. if you want to go into that nasty stuff, they say that trump is saying privately that he has got to be mean, he can't thompson himself, great, let's trump be mean, while, let is the work of offsetting the actual vulnerability that there are some swing voters out there that are worried about. and i think it goes back to the in it to win it, can you assuage the concerns of 1% or 2% of the electorate on this, that could be huge. >> go ahead. >>

>> i was just going to say it can make a difference, because obviously now, with what the governor's of texas and florida, specifically have done , in terms of literally busting people, who are coming to their borders, their states into other places across the country , it is no issues that people in chicago know very well. people in washington, d.c., all over the country, it usually wouldn't be an issue top of mind for folks speaking to it, but also talking about pathways to citizenship and the other part. it is not just enforcement but shoring up the past. >> no mass deportation now. >> she did that too in her speech, which, both of those things aren't always out of everybody's mouth at every time, this is an area where the republicans are going to continue to attack. the trump team will continue to attack. their position, they were holding up deportation signs, quite a contrast. >> deportation is not an argument as you may think across the country.

at this point. >> well-- >> mass deportation though? but that is what donald trump is talking about. >> i know, but that is what i am just telling you, that pulls a lot stronger than you think. and largely, because this base, up until recently has not been one that's democrats occupied well. and they have not made the case well. and they have allowed, as they have talked about oh, don't let the republicans to find, lead. well, guess what, the republicans define this issue. and so, now, there's a little bit of cleaning up on io9 for democrats. i thought tonight was an expert way to come out it, but to your point, the republicans will be more sophisticated in their arguments,, labor day. and i think, you know, between now and then, and i have already heard the back chatter on this idea that she said she was going to sign the langford bill, right? that conservative bill.

well, conservatives in the house are already chipping at that, going, welcome to that really was a conservative bill and republicans weren't really behind that, that was really just negotiated between the establishment, meaning mcconnell and company, and the white house. that is not the bill we want, so, you are already going to see this little countermeasure proposal coming up, and so, if they have like a clean view of the landscape in front of them on this issue i think to tim's point and simone's point, they can navigate those waters a lot smoother than they have up to this point. >> yeah, i was skeptical i have to say when the messaging started to be, will donald trump till the bill. i'm like it is too complicated, but it actually seems to be effective if it is partnered-- >> largely because he bragged about killing the bill. >> that is true. what you all think, and also you, tim is the most effective argument by the republicans, or the one they need combat the most, because they call her, you know, that she was the

borders are, they call her all sorts of things. is it the personal one, is a safety, is it-- the lester holt interview, when she was vp at the beginning. >> i was there. >> i was looking at you. >> guilty dog barking. she said she hasn't been to the border. also haven't been to europe. it just wasn't her best moment right? and that is a bad clip. and i just think that the best argument for republicans is more that she-- this was a real problem and we are going to show you these horror stories and she was unserious right? and so, that is why is it it is incumbent on her to demonstrate, like she did tonight, no, i am serious about dealing with it, i will work with conservative republicans even to deal with it we try to solve it and you did it, because he wanted to help donald trump. is that enough to win on the issue? probably not. but can you medicated? you are doing medication at this point. >> closing the gap. >> i see this per type

particular foreign policy look at that through a foreign policy lunch as much as i do a domestic lens, and the other part of that scale, that is out of balance for democrats is israel and hamas. and palestine. i thought she was really strong in that moment tonight. she looked at the camera and basically looked america in the eye and said, this is where i am on this. so, you have got these two issues, which are out of balance for democrats at various times, and i think tonight you saw her try to get them a little bit more in balance. and so, yeah, this is not about oh, we are now going to be +12 on this issue. this is mitigating against any further slippage. and closing and narrowing the gap between her and trump, who are demagogues on both of these. >> you have the one we just mentioned, we are joined to play as much of her speech as

we can play, so, let's play that. >> with respect to the war in gaza, president biden and i are working around the clock. because now is the time to get a hostage deal and a cease-fire deal done. and let me be clear, and let me be clear i will always stand up for israel's right to defend itself, and i will always ensure israel has the ability to defend its health, because the people of israel must never again face the horror that a terrorist organization, called hamas caused on october 7th. including unspeakable sexual violence, and the massacre of young people at a music festival. at the same time what has

happened in gaza over the past 10 months is devastating, so many innocent lives lost. desperate hungry people fleeing for safety over and over and over again, the scale of suffering is heartbreaking president biden and i are working to end this war such that israel is secure, the hostages are released, the suffering in gaza and and the palestinian people can realize their right to dignity, security freedom and self-determination. >> and it wasn't just her speech, i mean, her husband talks about his faith, talked about his efforts against anti- semitism, they also had the parents of one of the hostages who still held. this has been a very difficult

political issue for democrats, it is well beyond that, but it has also been that, what is your sense, simon, at this point of where kind of the base of the party, the party at larges? because it is not as simple as supporting one side of this over the other, it is much more complicated than that. >> and i want to be very clear, it is about the people at the end of the day, and a lot of times this gets -- i think this has gotten lost in the discourse, and i think with the vice president did very well is that speech tonight, and what she has consistently done because at that time she was interrupted, i think it was in michigan, where she told the protesters, unless you want trump to an, and we didn't hear that anymore, thought that was good. you can like it, but people, family members are dying in the gaza strip. and they live in michigan, and they live in some places in illinois, they live in places all over this country, and that response to that speech and her saying that they were dealing with, i think she understood that because you didn't hear that one again.

so, talking about the people, the palestinian people, the israeli people and also reinforcing united states of america foreign policy, because and ron desantis, and we have heard a lot about how old, her policy is going to be very different, dramatically different than president biden. she is not shifting at this point u.s. government policy, as it relates to the support of israel. and it is really important that people know that. >> she wants this done before january 20th. >> of course, but it is also such a good point, because she is the sitting vice president of the united states. there's ongoing negotiations, she is not going to present a different policy proposal, we have to speak in a very quick break. much more to get to tonight, including the cofounder he is standing by. we will talk to him after a quick break. hey dave, don't knock it 'til you smell it. new gain relax flings.

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fighting for. >> joining our conversation now is someone who spends a lot of time fighting for the future, and also do more to address gun violence, the cofounder of march for our lives, david. david, you had quite a week, and you have an in the convention hall, what was it like in the convention hall tonight, as you are watching that speech? >> it felt like the super bowl for me, as you can imagine, it was amazing. such an historic moment and i am just so hopeful about the future, and it is a strange feeling, because, i think for a long time people felt like hope was a delusion, because we have live in, for so many years, with the politics of division and hatred and really it feels amazing to just feel happy and excited about the future. >> addressing gun violence, which is also an issue you are incredibly passionate about, you are incredibly active on was a central part of the

programming. tonight. and i wanted to ask you about that and how much that means, and also the moment, when gabby giffords was on that stage and addressing the crowd. >> is so powerful. i think it is a powerful representation, the evolution of the democratic 30 on this issue where, for a long time, we were i think democrats were running from this. guns are something you can't talk about, but we have proven that guns are not the third rail. the third rail is the nra. the third rail is not siding with our children who live in danger of gun violence every single day, and siding with the parents who are sick and tired of their kids going to school shootings in schools right? and it was so, so powerful to see the survivors of gun violence represented on that stage, speaking for themselves, whether that was congresswoman, gabby giffords, or if that was people from uvalde or chicago are all over the country, because we need to realize that

we are not-- that we are advocates, you know, we are victims but we are also advocates at the same time as we are survivors. >> that is a very powerful message. i wanted to ask you, we want to play equipment talk you about it, because you are a longtime advocate, i think it is safe to say of governor walz being on the ticket. i probably have a text message or 10 from you, for many weeks ago about governor walz and how he should be on the ticket. let's play that and we will talk about it. >> and to coach, tim walz. you are going to be an incredible vice president. and to the delegates, and everyone who has put your faith in our campaign, your support is humbling.

>> so, that is a little bit of an out of body experience i imagined watch that, right? the vice president, who is just accepting the presidential nomination talking about a guy, who you have been a big advocate for. and what is so interesting about that, a lot of things, one, he wears his heart on his sleep everybody saw that in america this week, but also, he had his own evolution on gun safety reform. which i think is a strength, when somebody can evolve on an issue, but what drew you to becoming such a a strong advocate for him? >> well, one, it is that i have talked with him multiple times over the past year about, you know, what we are doing on gun safety we have private conversations with him about it, and seeing him deliver, you know, i am not looking for a politician to tell me that they are going to do, i am looking at what they have done, and what they are going to do as a result of that and what we have seen is governor, tim walz, not just say that he is no longer going to take support from the nra, not just return all of the

money he took from the nra their endorsement, but deliver in concrete ways whether it is universal background checks or allocating over $70 million to help fight gun violence in minnesota. we have seen him deliver repeatedly, and also i think she is just a great guy. at the end of the day. and i think every american, part of the reason i was pushing for so hard for him is that every american knows tim walz and they love him. and he might be there one day to help you fix your lawnmower or change your oil or, in his case help save your democracy, and everyone just wants to feel happy and believe that there is opportunity the opportunity to create really positive change for the future of our country, and i think the biggest endorsement of all was see gus and his kids last night or -- i think it was last night that were so excited just to see their dad out there. >> such an incredibly powerful memorable moment. david, so much work ahead for you, thank you so much for staying up late with us.

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i worked at wendy's, and look at us now. >> the future is always worth fighting for. and that is the fight we are in right now. >> well, it was clearly quite the weekend. i didn't even show you everything there. those were just some highlights but it all culminated in kamala harris' acceptance speech tonight. i just wanted to kind of go around. the convention is a moment to excite people, to engage people. there is a big pat on the head. what is the word -- one thing you hope the campaign will do moving forward? >> i want some more big-name republicans. adam was great but come on. the country is on the line. we needed lives, we need mitch, we needed kelly, matus.

where are they? all of them have spoken up very clearly about the threat of donald trump and i think kamala harris proved at this convention that she passes the commander-in-chief bar with flying colors and they have no excuse but to get out on the campaign trail. i want to see chris christy out on the campaign trail. >> chris christy is my friend. >> doesn't mean he can't get on the campaign trail. simone, you know kamala harris very well. what do you hope they do over the next couple of days, weeks? >> i hope they do two things. an interview. i hope they do an interview. and they should come on the weekend. and then also, i want to see what the geo tv operation looks like for the early vote. i want to see some innovative things on digital for early

voting. i want to see people posting the early i voted stickers early. >> she's got to do both and. you've got to get the republican swing voters and turnout the young folks. >> what is your wish list? >> my wish list is those two things, from an operational side, because that part of my brain is very much aligned with that but i think this was a gut check for the country and i'm hoping that the campaign does not lose sight of that because what is about to come is a tsunami of unmitigated bs and mounts and piles that they have never seen from quarters they never thought it would come from and in an asymmetrical way that will make what we thought was like a real crazy last six weeks look like a walk in the park on a sunday afternoon with

emmett till opinion your hand in the bowl or in your head and you're just doing your thing. that ain't happening in this campaign and i think the vice president said it very well. she wants to see the dirt from his campaign under your nails and that's what it's going to take and you all can do a roll call anytime you want for me. you all come to my house and do a rollcall because that was off the hook. >> dj cassidy is michael stills' favorite person. i would like to see them out doing many campaign events. >> okay. thank you all for staying up late with us. we really appreciate you joining us. i will see you on sunday at noon eastern right here on msnbc and you can see these guys from 8:00 to 10:00 on saturday and sunday.

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