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>> good evening. does america want a rerun or a brand-new season? this week's the mc revealing the stark contrasts. plus democrats like to celebrate the parties diversity, yet it denied palestinian americans from speaking at the convention. why? and derek cook who nearly lost his wife to florida's abortion ban is here with the vital role men must play in the battle for reproductive freedom. i am ayman mohyeldin. let's do it. this year's democratic national convention was bursting with celebrities. a true who's who of the democratic party. it was essentially a blowout celebration for vice president kamala harris after a brat summer that took everyone by surprise. freedom and hope ringing as the main themes of the week.

>> i am feeling hope so. -- feeling hopeful. because this convention has always been pretty good to kids with funny names who believe in a country where anything is possible. >> america, hope is making a comeback. >> let us choose joy. let us choose freedom. why? because that is the best of america. >> the convention was brimming with excitement, joy, and possibility. it wasn't let's make america great again, it was let's take america to brand-new heights. >> our best days are not behind us, they are before us. >> when a barrier falls for one of us, it falls. it falls and clears the way for all of us. >> my fellow americans.

i love our country with all my heart. everywhere i go, everywhere i go and everyone i meet, i see a nation that is ready to move forward. ready for the next step in the incredible journey that is america. >> now contrast that and that message from the d&c of looking toward a better future with donald trump and the republicans dystopian future of america at the r nc in july. >> they are coming from mental institutions and insane asylums. you know the press is always on me because i say this. has anyone seen silence of the lambs? the late, great hannibal lecter. he'd love to have you for

dinner. that's insane asylums. they are emptying out there insane asylums and terrorist's are coming in at numbers we've never seen before. bad things are going to happen. >> vice president kamala harris and her running mate, governor tim walz, included warnings to safeguard our democracy from trump and trumpism, but the packaging was starkly different. instead of fearmongering, the harris-walz ticket and their surrogates pushed voters to go out and do something. >> over the next 78 days, we will have to pour every ounce, every minute, every moment into making history on november 5. >> if we see a bad pole, and we will, we have to put down the phone and do something. >> it was also one more thing that differentiated the d&c from the rnc and that was a willingness to talk about

project 2025. the heritage foundation's 900 page policy plan that trump is working overtime now to try to distance himself from. >> take donald trump and j.d. vance. there project 2025 will make things much much harder for people who are just trying to live their lives. >> the dnc was four days of political euphoria. the very boost of energy that the campaign needed to reintroduce itself to the american public. the latest polling by 538 shows the race remains tight and despite harris holding an ever increasing lead over trump. but this is just a snapshot in time and anything could change with 72 days to go to the election. according to new york magazine, key democrats, even president obama are cautioning the party not to get too excited. the next 2 1/2 months will require intense focus with the nation remaining starkly divided

. kicking us off, democratic strategist and former campaign advisor and serious xm host and joe walsh, host of white flag with joe walsh. great to have both of you with us. you were at the dnc. certainly energetic. we felt it even on the tv screens for those of us watching it at home. give me your take away of what you felt and what you saw as we now turn to the general election. >> i saw population that was hopeful. one that was excited. one that can ensure we take this over the finish line, but also one that was listening to a call of action. i think what was more vital here was that you had evangelicals. you had people who are in very red districts in the south. you had people of various age groups. young people, middle-age people, people who are lifelong republicans. you also had people thinking about sitting out this election cycle who are now reinvigorated.

there was an excitement almost like an awakening of sorts. not only to the purposeful use of american democracy, but also an idea of how we move america forward. we know the rnc presented a darkness. in america that didn't resemble what many of us live in and hear you saw diversity on display. not just in terms of race, but also religion. also in terms of geographical region. all of that came together in support of the kamala harris ticket and tim walz and all in all it was a celebration. it was a celebration of america. it was a celebration of patriotism. i think it was really bringing together people who want to see an america where everyone can thrive. >> joe, i have to ask you about republicans in this and you know how important republicans for harris is when you know that fox news didn't even broadcast any of the speeches of republicans at the dnc. i think for me that was a very

telling moment of how worried they are about republicans like yourself and others speaking out for the harris-walz campaign. how effective do you think some of these themes of freedom, democracy and hope that were articulated by republicans to the voting base? >> ayman, i was there and that was the first democratic national convention i've ever been to and it was cool. a little weird in a good way, but it was cool. ameshia is right. there was excitement. we launched this thing called republicans for harris two or three weeks ago. on our first phone call we had over 70,000 republicans on that call and you look at this convention, this democratic convention. these issues of freedom and patriotism, waving the flag, i mean that was stuff republicans used to do before republicans became an authoritarian embracing colt under trump. i think kamala harris has a big

coalition from republicans for harris like us all the way over to her progressive left and she has a tough chore. she has to keep us all in there, but being at that convention my biggest take away was kamala harris showed and said loud and clear how much she loves america and you contrast that with trump who is only capable of loving himself. the vibe is good and now the hard work begins. >> and to that point, ameshia, the hard work begins. the huffington post put it this way. the party is over for the democrats, now comes the hangover. to pick up on joe's question, the question i have for you is what does that mean? what is the next chapter of work for the harris-walz campaign? >> it means maintaining the momentum. making sure you have the right people on the ground in battleground states. making sure that kamala harris

and walls are able to play in states that were not in play a month or so ago for joe biden. it means elevating some of the voices that we saw on that stage. i'm thinking of people like jasmine crockett out of texas. when we think texas we don't often think democrats, but the south has something to say. that is not from me, that is from andre 3000, but i think we need to make sure we are paying close attention to these areas and their voters matter. this is going to be a very, very short march. we know this is a truncated campaign, but it is not impossible and i don't anyone sitting around and thinking this isn't competitive, because it is. kamala harris, even though she has the momentum, even though we see different demographics coming together who haven't for democrats historically, we still have a race to win. that means on the ground game. that means investments and we know she has that from labor day on, in terms of an ad campaign that largely focuses

on digital media. that is one of the reasons we are seeing so many young people being invested because that is where many of them are getting their news from. in addition to showcasing a party and a ticket that can work for everyone. we will see the coach over and over and over again. we will see more veterans on the campaign trail. we are going to see people who are conservatives out there. we are going to see people who are first-time voters, having the conversations. we are going to continue to watch this expansion ticket matter and we will continue to see it grow. >> i could be dead wrong and maybe most of your audience will think i'm wrong, but i think if the election were held tomorrow, donald trump will win, elect. so as much as i loved being part of what this past week was, i think it is right that kamala harris thinks she is the underdog. you talk about hard work. the hard work is she can't let her foot off the pedal. i think she needs to take questions from the media.

i think she would be very good at it. i think she needs to continue to go after donald trump with everything she's got. she gave a great speech, where she showed what an absolute threat he is to our democracy. she should keep doing that and i would love to see her do open town halls and take questions from voters. i think she would be dynamite at that as well. >> expand for a moment then, why do you think if the election was held tomorrow donald trump would win? is it because the voters have not yet heard enough from the vice president and the harris- walz campaign? or do you think it is something they are more familiar with? explain why you think if it were about time and the election held tomorrow she would not win. >> i'm one of those rare conservatives who if i could i would get rid of the electoral college. kamala harris will win the popular vote by five or six or

7 million votes, but trump has a bit of a lead in these battleground states and i think to your point and it is a good one, people, undecided voters still don't know quite who she is and what she stands for. and trump is going to put all of his ds on the airwaves and will say it himself, trying to define her. it is a race. she has got to get out and define herself. >> ameshia, speaking of trump and vance, we learned tonight that in an interview tomorrow on meet the press, j.d. vance says trump would veto a national abortion ban if elected. trump himself saying their reproductive rights and women would be great under his administration. given the gop's historic attacks on reproductive freedoms, not the words, not the promises, their actual actions, is the trump ticket at this point just pandering and lying to voters about this issue? >> they absolutely are. this is the same donald trump

who appointed supreme court justices who got rid of roe v. wade. he set the wheels in motion to make it difficult for women to maintain reproductive rights. this is not a man speaking with any legitimacy when he talks about being a supporter of reproductive rights. when he talks about strengthening them. this is a guy who worked endlessly to upend women's choice. i think that is a real problem and now he is trying to message it differently and he continues to say i will throw this to the states. that so he won't be held accountable for the decisions he made and people he appointed to the supreme court. at the end of the day republicans know, donald trump knows, that women's reproductive rights are a lightning rod. they brought out women to the polls and women want to be able to make their own choices. he knows that this is politically unpopular for republicans to take a stance that hurts women, so now he is messaging this in a way that i believe he and his head, because his lies have been pushed time and time again, he

thinks this is going to help him at the polls. i don't think it will. we have how many states now have abortion rights on the ballot in november? that is a galvanizing issue. that is why vice president harris brought it up multiple times during her speech at the dnc. she knows the power that has at the polls and donald trump is running scared and also lying. >> indeed. ameshia cross and joe walsh, thank you for starting in asaph. appreciated as always. we heard from a lot of diverse voices at the dnc except one. we will tell you who after this break. break. ♪ (vo) you've got your sunday obsession and we got you. now with verizon, get nfl sunday ticket from youtube tv on us and get every out-of-market sunday game. plus $800 off samsung galaxy z fold6. only on verizon. (jalen hurt) see you sunday.

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one notable exception and jon stewart summed it up like this. >> they have black americans, hispanic americans, asian americans, gay americans, jewish americans, palestinian -- oh, well, to be fair it was only four nights, eight hours a night. >> now for all the talk about pro-palestinian protesters at the dnc, the most notable faction of the pro-palestinian movement at the dnc where the activists and organizers inside the system and who formed the uncommitted movement. they had no plans to disrupt. they had no plans to protest. they just had a simple ask of their party brethren. please allow a palestinian american democratic of a short, vetted speech on the convention stage. like every other group in this new, democratic rainbow

coalition and they had many allies backing them up. on thursday the powerful united auto workers union posted, quote, if we want the war in gaza to and we can't put our heads in the sand or ignore the voices of palestinian americans in the democratic party. if we want peace, if we want real democracy and want to win the election, the democratic party must allow a palestinian american speaker to be heard from the dnc speech stage tonight. prompting democrats, labor groups, writers and others to wall join the call to let a palestinian american speak. it did not happen. when asked why a palestinian america did not speak on the stage, a harris advisor told cnn, quote, i think we've given them a lot of opportunities to engage in this process at the convention and cited the panels. thursday night after the request was officially denied,

the uncommitted delegates locked arms and walked into the convention salted to -- convention hall to take their seats. they were able to make it back to their seats just in time to hear pink sing her hit song. take a listen. >> ♪ what about us? what about all the times you said you had the answer? no mac no mac ♪what about us? what about all the broken happy after rafters? ♪ ♪ >> and they got to hear statements like this. >> i'm here tonight because i am an american and im a voter and we the people are stronger when all our voices are heard. >> well, not all voices, it seems. this led a celebrated writer who was covering the uncommitted movement at the convention to ask this. what is a palestinian americans

place under the democrats big tent? on the issue of representation he noted it has been an exhibition of the permission to narrate and it is that permission that palestinian americans have been denied. they've heard their names mentioned fleetingly by a handful of speakers, but have not been granted the right to speak their names themselves. but there was a powerful history lesson at the dnc that the uncommitted movement and palestinian americans take solace in. in 1960 a mississippi civil rights activist was denied a seat at the democratic convention and in 1964 she delivered an iconic speech at the convention taking the party to task for its failure to support voting rights for black americans. on the 60th anniversary of those remarks, kamala harris, standing on the shoulders of giants like fannie lou hamer officially accepted the party's

nomination for president. today a cofounder of uncommitted, who joined us last week on the show, posted on x. 60 years ago the dnc refused to see fannie lou hamer and the mississippi freedom democratic party. we walk in that rich tradition of black led organizing that achieved enormous progress and teaches us how to keep pushing for justice. we will keep pushing. a positive lesson to take from the dnc and in optimists outlook. there is another way to look at this. it's not simply disrespectful to palestinian americans and their allies to deny them a speaker. it is not just hypocrisy, either. it is actually terrible politics in the moment we find ourselves in. in a short amount of time the uncommitted movement turned out voters that could tip the election not just in michigan, but other states like north carolina, wisconsin, pennsylvania and more progressives, palestinian americans and their allies are preparing and organizing battle to push the democrats and kamala harris on palestinian rights.

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>> i was personally disappointed that they did not have a palestinian speaker on the stage. it was historic to have that panel. i think they felt like they were meeting the activists halfway and i think they were talking past each other by the end. >> to your point we talked about that last week. representative, i do want to ask you about the point that was brought up which is about the politics. it's not just in michigan where this could affect votes. there's a large muslim american population in your home state of georgia. as we found out in 2020 every single vote counts. how do you think the harris campaign's handling of the issue will play out politically in your state? >> i do want to clarify something.

the uncommitted movement, when they were in negotiations for a speaker have submitted multiple names and options. some elected officials and others just normal average people. i want to clarify something. the dnc saying we had not gotten a no was a good sign. saying the panel was part of a compromise was not at all what was being communicated. we won the state by 11,780 vote. there are 76,000 muslims in georgia. we know that about 55,000 arabs live here according to the arab american institute. that's why i'm trying so hard to bridge the gap between party and people because we will need every vote. we've been working to turn out voters for 10 years. i really care about teaching people how to push the various levers to get what they need out of elected officials. the problem is i'm seeing

nihilism and despair taking over. people say there's no point in being engaged and that's my worst nightmare. it is something i have dedicated 10 years of work to prevent. only asked for was a symbolic, equal gesture that other folks had gotten. >> let me ask you about this point. he reported from detroit and from lansing, michigan, now people have pointed to the sides of the protesters and say it did not materialize. those numbers never turned up. they are not taken into consideration that was pre- dropping out of joe biden and the energy that has galvanized communities around vice president harris. there are some that are saying you don't have to worry about the pro-palestine vote in american politics. they did not materialize. they are insignificant. based on your reporting and the people you've been speaking to is that a potentially dangerous miscalculation by the dnc or the democrats in the campaign?

>> i think it is very shortsighted. i do think they are making that calculation. they are looking at michigan. there were 100,000 uncommitted voters. this is a state that donald trump won by around 10,000 votes in 2016. i think you'll overlook this at your peril. i also think it's not just americans. young americans, students, black americans have really been looking at what is happening in gaza. this is the first war of this nature we are seeing on our smart phones. i just think if you want to be the party of social justice. if you want to be the party of everybody's voice counting even if you say we can win this election without them, you have to have an answer for these people.

that is what i think. i thought it was a real missed opportunity. i was saddened by it. i do think the fact that they felt, up until the very moment -- maybe it wasn't by text but up until that very last moment he thought it was going to happen. it was the expectations were raised and it was the feeling of crest fallenness. the dnc delivered them blankets and pizza when they had their sitting. it did not feel equal. it did not feel like enough. i understand that completely. i also understand the stakes of this election are very high and people are going to look at donald trump and what he has said about palestinians in the

middle east and they are not going to see him as an ally either. i think a lot of very committed activists are taking that very seriously. >> we have about 72 days left. we will see if there is any way to close that gap. thank you so much for joining us on this important conversation. next up, men on the front lines fighting for reproductive freedoms. stay with us. edition smart bed and free delivery when you add any base.

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harrowing miscarriage experience. >> two years ago a miscarriage almost killed me. my doctors told me to prepare for a stillbirth. i needed care, but my state abortion restrictions kept it from me. i miscarried in a bathroom. i will never forget my husband's face as he tried to stop the bleeding. >> joining me as derek cook, and advocate for men with twice. thank you for making time for us. we heard your wife there give that devastating account of the miscarriage she experienced. talk to me about it from your experience. what did it mean to stand there beside her and about her experience that led you to this advocacy. >> thank you for having me. it meant a lot to standing out there at my wife's side supporting her through the process, just being there for her and she has been through so

much to try to have a baby and then go through all of this and get to this point. it felt like a let down to her. i wanted to be there as much as i could possibly can, be there as a good husband and love her every moment in the process she's going through. what led me up to this is, my wife had 19 miscarriages. i'm sorry, 18 miscarriages. to have a baby now it's just a blessing. it was very important. >> you talked about the challenges of having a baby. we have seen republicans take steps to restrict not just abortion assess but also ivf which you and your wife have relied on. what do you say to conservatives and republicans who are now trying to restrict

ivf access as well as reproductive rights? >> shame. ivf gave us our daughter now. ivf got us to the point where my wife did get up to 16 weeks and she had a miscarriage. the doctors stepped in with ivf to help us have a baby and now you are trying to come in and take that away as well? we already lost a baby. you guys are trying to take ivf away from women and trying to keep people from having families at every level. why? that is my question. >> that's an important question. i want to share something you talked about. you talked about how your grandparents were born and raised in alabama. the sedate supreme court ruled in february --

you said, quote, we don't need to go backwards, it seems like time keeps repeating itself. elaborate on that. f. how are these extreme decisions impacting black families like yours? >> well, what was actually brought up was the fact that in alabama they are restricting people from having abortions, as well as florida and also attacking ivf clinics and it is already bad for as many blacks that lived in alabama back in the day. you know my grandparents, just to survive and go to school the next day. it just made me feel like we are still fighting for something that was already done back in the days and we are still fighting for it now. fi no matter what my granddad and

grandmother had to run together and now it is like me and my wife running together to get choice over their bodies again. >> all right, derick cook, thank you for your time and for sharing your story. i appreciate your advocacy and c an important reminder that men have a voice in the conversation as well. thank you so much, derick. >> you're welcome, thank you. coming up, mit says that black and latino enrollment is down thanks to the supreme court. supreme court. munity and metabolism. and yours too! you did it! plus try centrum silver, now clinically proven to support memory in older adults. (vo) you've got your sunday obsession and we got you now clinically proven now with verizon, get nfl sunday ticket from youtube tv on us... and a great deal on galaxy z fold6... for a total value of twelve hundred and fifty dollars. only on verizon. (jalen hurts) see you sunday!

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while all eyes were on the dnc this week mit released some data that confirmed our worst fears about the supreme court. the incoming class will be significantly less diverse than in previous years and that is thanks to last year's ruling that gutted affirmative action. mit, one of the first to release enrollment data since the ruling says the percentage of black students dropped to 5% from 15% and the percentage of hispanic and latino students dropped to 11% down from 16%. overall, all ethnic groups had a decrease in enrollment except asian americans who had a 7% increase. the university saw this coming. it was among several universities and colleges that signed an amicus brief to the high court two years ago in support of keeping race conscious admissions. joining me now, distinguished professor at princeton

university and also a msnbc political analyst. professor, great to see you as always. this was not a surprise to anyone. i think when scotus struck down affirmative action, you and others warned us about the impact on students of color, saying we would begin to see a segregated higher education landscape. your initial reaction now that we have seen initial new numbers from one university and what are you hearing from others in academia? >> first of all it is great to see you, ayman. we knew this was going to happen, as you said. i suspect the data will be similar at the other ivs. my own institution, prince, harvard, dartmouth, penn, cornell and the like. we should see this across the board in terms of elite institutions and top public institutions. we knew this. we knew the data. we saw what happened in california. we know just two years after

prop 209 was passed only 96 black freshmen were admitted to a class of over 4000 at ucla. we saw 44% decline between 2006 and 2022 at the university of michigan. so this was, in fact, the expected outcome. what is so tragic about it is there are also those reading this outcome as an example of what happens when merit is taken as the principal, deciding factor. when in fact this is actually proving the opposite. >> the new york times professor pointed out that other schools could now feel pressure to demonstrate results consistent with mit or to reveal admissions diversity in terms of classes. otherwise they could open themselves up to critics who might say they found a way to somehow defy the supreme court ban. your thoughts on this? >> there is going to be some downward pressure. remember affirmative action is

not an issue for the local community college. it is not an issue, you know, for the service institutions, public institutions that are not the top ranking schools in the state. this is about who gains access to the top schools in the country and that gets us into some sticky questions about the landscape of higher education that we might need to talk about, but we will see downward pressure and what is also not being talked about is what is happening in secondary schools. the inequality in high schools. the inequality in an elementary school. who gets access to headstart? who gets access to early education and that is impacting the quality of applications that we see to these elite institutions. so when people talk about it as merit they are not paying attention to the structural inequality that defines the landscape of american education from k-12 up to colleges and

universities. >> you bring up an important point about the admissions process generally. after the ruling you had schools re-crowding -- recruiting, making test scores optional, broadening outreach to high schools in low income communities. all of them trying to address the issue. what do you see as an option for administrators to avoid this mit result as a lack of diversity and how they can be effective? >> i think they need to be courageous and really live their values. if they are committed to a diverse class. remember, admissions processes are some of the most contrived processes. just think of schools were not able to take into consideration region. right? schools in the northeast would have most of their students probably coming from the northeast. schools weren't interested in

taking it under consideration, athletics, legacy. whether or not you are interested in the arts or whatever. you would see a very different class because you can't take advantage of that knowledge in order to build the kind of community you need to build. so what does it mean that we can't take into consideration race? what it will mean is they can't build the kind of diverse class they want to build and we know that focusing on class alone cannot address this issue. so part of what we have to deal with is the bad faith of these actors. we also have to understand that this is a two front assault not only on admissions, but dei. they are attacking dei offices so that the experience is not, shall we say, as welcoming and supportive as it might be. i think institutions need to leave their values and not be afraid of being sued. bring the full weight of their reputation to bear in the fight

for diverse higher education landscape. >> professor eddie glaude jr., i can't thank you enough. such an important conversation we will follow throughout the developments and twist and turns, but i appreciate your voice. >> thank you. >> a new hour of ayman starts after a quick break. k. t-mobile connects 100,000 delta airlines employees. powers tractor supply stores nationwide with reliable 5g business internet. and helps red bull revolutionize coverage of live events. this is how business goes further with t-mobile for business. shake up your shower with a flavor for every feeling. this dove freshens you up. this dove winds you down. this dove leaves you glowing. and this dove keeps you going. so whatever care you care about, there's a dove for every body. (music playing)

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