on this on this new hour of ayman, texas attorney general ken paxton targets latino campaign volunteers including an 87-year- old great-grandmother. plus, donald trump twists himself into a pretzel trying to rebrand on reproductive rights. and a key union group booze j.d. vance as he tries to rewrite trump's record. i am ayman mohyeldin. let's do it. when 87-year-old lydia martinez woke up before 6:00 a.m. to the sound of a knock on her door last week she assumed it was perhaps a neighbor who needed milk or eggs. her surprise it was not a neighbor. rather nine officers, most of them men, pushing through her

front door. some had riot shields and guns in their holsters. the officers presented a search warrant and questioned her for three hours. at one point they had the great- grandmother stand outside in her nightgown. according to their warrant, officers were looking for records including applications for ballot by mail, a list of voter banks and documents about elected officials and candidates. martina said the officers told her they were there because she filled out a report saying older residents were not getting mail ballots. that is quite an aggressive response to that report, which she confirms she did file. martinez is a retired educator in san antonio who spent 35 years as a member and volunteer with lulac, the civil rights group in america. part of her work with the organization includes helping older residents and veterans registered to vote and that is what made her suspicious to republican texas attorney general ken paxton.

martinez and other leaders heldn a news conference outside paxton's office in san antonio. >> they took my ledger, my appointment book. i don't know when , i have an appointment with my doctors. they took my cell phone. they took all the information that i had. i have sons and daughters and they don't want me involved in this anymore. they are scared that vei'm goin to be in prison and i said they can't, i'm not doing anything illegal. >> martinez was just one target of raids on several democrats in south texas. cr they are all part of a two-year investigation into alleged election fraud and vote harvesting conducted by paxton's election integrity unit. that is the same unit created in the wake of donald trump's fake election claims. now of course no charges have been filed against those who had their homes searched this month, so what does this new stunt by paxton actually

achieve besides fueling fear? these raids left his targets shaken up and scared and outside the latino community they push a false narrative about noncitizens supposedly voting illegally. the texas attorney general has been eager to advance this baseless claim about voter thought throughout his career. on a radio show earlier this month he said, quote, there is a reason joe biden brought people here illegally. i'm convinced that is how they are going to do at this time. they are going to use the illegal vote. to be clear, absolutely clear, u.s. law already bans noncitizens from voting in u.s. elections and as experts have repeatedly said, there is no evidence of widespread voter fraud in texas or this country at large. you know it is true, though? texas's long history of discrimination against citizens of mexican descent. it is why the historic latino civil rights organization came together in the first place in 1929.

you can imagine these raids felt deeply personal. the group's national president called them, quote, point-blank voter intimidation and now lulac has turned the tables on paxton by calling on the justice department to investigate the investigator. you know the one desperately searching for voter fraud and for potentially violating the voting rights act. joiningig me to discuss this an more is the lulac ceo. thank you for making time for us. walk me through what has happened since that incident with ms. martinez. has there been any more insight into what they were trying to achieve, what they planned on doing and have her possessions been returned? >> her possessions have not been returned to her. we got a lot more information relative to the other warrants that were served. the big rooms. to our best knowledge they were about 12 of them. we have spoken with five and four of those are lulac

members. we sent a letter to the department of justice asking for an inquiry and we will be meeting with them as early as next week to provide them with all the information that we have relative to this case. >> what do you want the department of justice to do in this inquiry? i assume they have not responded to you and will perhaps respond in person when you meet with them, but what is it you are seeking from the department of justice? >> we want an investigation on the civil side and criminal side as well. we believe that her civil rights have been violated and so we want them to investigate. >> i was going to say, ken paxton seems to have launched, s you know, kind of an attack now on organizations in texas and you know if you are an outside observer, you can say with some degree of confidence, this has the hallmarks of voter intimidation. when you are targeting groups and trying to undercut their yi ability to vote freely and fairly and feel confident

about, you are doing a great disservice to our democracy. how do you fight that? how do you counter that? how do you get these organizations to mobilize in this tech? >> first and foremost there is a pattern. we've been talking about the raids for the past week, but if you go back to june we actually filed a lawsuit against catholic charities. in july he filed suit against annunciation house, which provides respite services for immigrants in the united states. all of those nonprofit organizations and all of those latino leaders, civic leaders, lulac members are all latino, so there is no question he is targeting latinos. one of the things we are doing in our responses a response will not be only a latino response. we are working with the naacp. i met yesterday with the urban league. with the leadership conference. so our response will be one of

the civil rights community taking into account hispanics, african american and the asian community as well. >> let me share with you something that the governor has been doing, greg abbott. he purged 1 million people from the voting rolls saying that illegal voting in texas will l not be tolerated, but the majority of voters data shows that were removed from the polls either passed away or failed to respond to notices from election officials or moved out of texas. you believe there is a concerted effort to fearmonger ahead of the election and create a sense of intimidation? >> i think he put that out, because he put that out last friday as a way to deflect from the story, this negative story that has impacted his administration and paxton, but in addition it undercuts their argument of systemic voter fraud and harvesting. 6500 of those persons actually removed from the voting role were defined as noncitizens.

6500 of 1.1 million records is less than half of 1%. 1900 of those 6500 actually had voting history. so you're talking less than 1/1000 of a percent of people who were on the voting rolls who are noncitizens, immigrants if you will. >> statistically insignificant. >> that is not systemic voter fraud or voter harvesting. it undercuts their entire argument. what i am concerned about is he gave those 1900 records, literally handed them over to paxton and our expectation is he is going to go after them. he is going to arrest someone on those. >> let me ask you real quick, i know we are almost out of time, but why are they so afraid of latinos in texas? why is there such a concerted effort to go after this

invisible bogeyman? >> well, it is not invisible. there are 12.1 million latinos in texas. latinos are 40% of the population. it is actually greater than the 12 million non-hispanic whites who live in the state and when you take into account hispanics, african americans and asians, that is 60% of the population. texas is and has been a majority minority state for some time. this is their way to stay in power. not just to keep in control of the state, but there are st districts changing dramatically because of these demographics. >> thank you so much. it is a pleasure to speak to you and we will certainly stay on top of this story in the weeks and months ahead. please come back. coming up, donald trump does the ultimate flip-flop on abortion rights and he is hoping no one notices. we will tell you about that, next. good to go nonstop. with cabenuva, there's no pausing for daily hiv pills.

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responsible for stripping away reproductive rights of millions of women? well, if you are donald trump you suddenly attempt to rebrand yourself as a champion of reproductive freedom and pray everyone else has amnesia. this week and an exclusive interview with dasha burns trump was asked how, as a florida resident, he plans on voting on the ballot amendment to overturn the state's six- week abortion ban. watch. >> i think six weeks is too short. it has to be more time and i have told them that i want more weeks. >> so you will vote in favor of the amendment? >> i am going to be voting that we need more than six weeks. >> so trump left an opening to vote to overturn the florida six-week abortion ban, but not so fast. after 24 hours of conservative backlash including from his own campaign staff who released a statement to npr, trump ran to fox to officially flip-flop yet again and side with the antiabortion rights extremists within his party. watch.

>> so i think six weeks, you need more time than six weeks. i've disagreed with that right from the early primaries when i heard about it i disagreed with it. at the same time the democrats are radical, because nine months is just a ridiculous situation. where you can do an abortion in the ninth month and some of the states like minnesota and other states have it where you can actually execute the baby after birth and all of that stuff is unacceptable. so i will be voting no for that reason. >> joining me now to discuss this is a msnbc political analyst and host of the fast politics podcast. executing a baby after they are bored is actually murder and that is not legal anywhere in the united states of america, we just want to make sure we clarify that for anyone who is watching, but i do want to ask you about his flip-flop, molly, because kamala harris jumped all over this today.

she wrote first he got roe overturned and then got abortion banned in 20 states. now he is voting for an abortion ban in the state where he lives. if elected he will sign a nationwide abortion ban if it crosses his desk. says is found, so we have a record of what he says. >> yeah, i mean i was glad he said that thing about the nine month abortions, you know, you can kill the baby, because it is not true and there are laws against that. if a baby is born alive you have to resuscitate. this is the law. he has been saying this license 2016. he has his favorite lies. look, this is, we know what donald trump will do and we know it because of the three supreme court justices he installed and he said he was going to put in and type choice -- put in anti-choice justices. and they overturned roy -- roe v. wade. a protected right, the right to

privacy and that you could have an abortion and it was federal and these three justices along with the other conservative justices overturned it and we saw in the oral arguments this session that alito and thomas talked about using the comstock act, an 18th-century law that has not been used forever, to make mailing abortion pills illegal. so we see where this is going and anyone who has looked at project 2025 knows for sure the plan is regulate ivf, because embryos are people. that is the thinking, so you don't want to lose a person. and then use comstock to make it illegal to mail the pills. >> there is an irony, josh, which is donald trump on one hand appears or projects this strawman image, but on the issue of reproductive rights he is clearly following the extremists within his party. this is a guy that doesn't seem to have a lot of moral

positions and so on this issue and the party says no, we want to be extreme and we want a national abortion ban, he will literally wake up and say fine, i will do it and then when he wants to try to win an election and be more moderate, he will say no, i won't support a national abortion ban. >> that's right. running for president, a campaign is like sex or you can promise to do a lot of stuff and no one knows what you are capable of until you are right up in there. unfortunate for america, but fortunate for knowing where he stands is we have seen what it likes when he screws america for four years and the world. people don't like that, so he knows the positions of his party are unpopular. using what i will do. six months, eight months and then when he is in power you see him stripping away reproductive freedoms. >> molly, there was another portion of the interview with dasha burns that i want to play. again, trying to portray himself as a moderate on

reproductive rights, announcing a new policy on ivf treatments. watch this. >> we are going to be, under the trump administration we are going to be paying for that treatment. >> all americans who want it? >> all-americans that get it. all americans that need it. we will be paying for that treatment or be mandating that the insurance company pay. >> so either the government will pay for it or the insurance companies will pay? >> under a mandate, yes. >> just to be clear when the government pays for medical treatment for citizens that is called socialized healthcare. that is the definition. so it seems trump is opening the door to socialized healthcare in the republican party, in his administration. >> and for a really expensive procedure. ivf is tens of thousands of dollars and you have rounds and rounds and rounds and sometimes you never get pregnant from it. i have to say this is a guy who tried to overturn obamacare,

right? this is not a guy who is for socialized medicine and i think what is important is we have hit the moment in the election cycle where donald trump will say literally anything to get elected. >> we are at that point where he will say whatever. >> is he going to pay for everyone? >> is anyone buying this? like do republicans care about this? >> look, ivf is wildly popular. abortion is much more popular than it ever was. reproductive rights. i think there are some people who want to believe. the trump people who want to believe that he said -- but do they really believe? we were here for four years. >> we have seen his words mean nothing. after this elizabeth warren came out and really went straight after donald trump for making that comment. watch this and i will get your thoughts. >> american women are not stupid and we know the only guaranteed protection for ivf

is a new, national law, which kamala harris supports and donald trump opposes. >> is there this kind of thing that donald trump does, where he comes out and he says something and democrats respond to it and then we kind of get mired down in this debate around who does what for ivf, when in reality we shouldn't be there, because donald trump is just shooting from the hip and making comments to get elected. he is not a serious person. these are not serious things they are advancing and yet somehow democrats are responding taking it seriously. >> also they ask questions taking his policy seriously, instead of framing it as just a wild thing that he says and does not believe or care about or probably remember. i could look at the camera now and see if i'm elected president no one is going to be ticklish anymore and people won't report that, one because i am a nobody, but because i am obviously lying. for some reason not when donald

trump is obviously lying. >> it is such an important point because there are so many moments when the media is again failing the test that we find ourselves in. >> i think it is a shame that he is the one talking about this on the campaign trail. i wish more democrats would go further to talk about government funded healthcare and republicans you never hear talking about it because when a republican finances reproductive health care, he makes his mistress sign an nda. that is why the discourses that way. >> don't go anywhere. of nexstar worst of the week, the republican boys club edition, is next. ♪ (vo) you've got your sunday obsession and we got you. now with verizon, get nfl sunday ticket from youtube tv on us and get every out-of-market sunday game. plus $800 off samsung galaxy z fold6. only on verizon.

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it is it is time now for our worst of the week, gop boys club edition and it started with these despicable comments from fox primetime host jesse waters on monday. >> she's going to get paralyzed in a situation when the

generals have their way with her. >> i don't like that. >> figuratively. >> take it back. >> have their way with her. control her, not in a sexual way. >> you know you have gone off the deep end when jeanine pirro is trying to reel you back in live on the air. waters issued a statement the next day where he claimed the comments were not sexual in nature, but hours later this. >> are you going to gamble our country away on a frightened woman too insecure to tell us who she is? she has a nervous wreck who can be trusted with the nuclear codes. this job is not for her. >> by wednesday trump running mate and normally human adult male j.d. vance also joined in on attacking harris, this time on afghanistan. >> kamala harris is so asleep at the j3ñówheel that she won't even do an investigation into what happened and oñshe wants t yell at donald trump because he showed up.

>> now keep in mind this is just one week after vance had the audacity to lecture democrats about toning down the rhetoric about donald trump and speaking of trump, we won't even show you the absolutely vile post he reposted on his failed social media site, swiping at harris and the woman trump won't stop running against, hillary clinton. the post spoke about both politicians. when the current president -- current vice president and the other a former secretary of state. this from a campaign accusing vice president harris of not focusing enough on policy, believe it or not. senior admire -- advisor jason miller said trump may have not led the language on the post before pushing it to his followers. my panel is back with me. who have you got in the worst of the week? they all suck this week.

>> he didn't read it. >> he just wrote it, he didn't read it. >> look, this misogyny is deep in this party. this is what trump is running on. trump has had many opportunities not to double down on misogyny at every point. i think jesse waters, if we have to choose between all of the misogynists in trump world, that, you know, the sort of over sexualizing, inappropriate comments. the other thing, she was a sex crimes prosecutor. attorney general. she was a senator, she was a vice president and now she is running for president. she has had many more jobs than both donald trump and j.d. vance in government and even obama. she's been doing this a long time, so the idea that they will post these pictures of her smiling and laughing and say she doesn't have the temperament because she is a woman is like pretty much the grossest misogyny that i've seen in a long time. >> you know when you think of what jesse waters says on tv, he is a caricature of himself

and trying to follow tucker carlson thinking i can become a player in the republican party if i become more hateful, more misogynistic, more racist and spew this disgusting rhetoric, but he is doing it because he wants to be in the good graces of donald trump. >> that's right. i think what is useful is knowing republican men have two positions on women. it is the sexism that they mean and the sexism that they accidentally say and also mean. really for worst of the week i have to go with the people running for the highest two offices in the land, right? i think it is reasonable to disagree with vice president harris on substantive issues. i know people who do it from the right, but i know a lot of people doing it from the left right now. you can do it without being demeaning and sexualizing, like i can disagree with a lot of

donald trump's policies and i don't have to say that he is so sexist because he has weird, unnerving genitalia that he doesn't want women to ask to see, to push them away. like i can disagree with donald trump's point of view about reproductive health without saying that he has genitals like a number two pencil that a horse kicked and that is because i can disagree with his brain, which is like a wet nerf football that a horse kicked. >> let me ask you about something again that he said before the vice president's interview with cnn. he compared her to a 2000 seven miss usa contestant who was mocked for an embarrassing moment on stage. upton, a trump supporter, called out vance's bullying. before she deleted her account. she explained she was constantly bullied for that verbal stumble. vance dismissed upton's remarks. it is kind of par for the course for republicans to attack the intelligence of women in this sexist,

misogynistic way. not dealing with the substance, but dismissing it purely on the grounds that they are women and somehow less intelligent. >> and in that interview they ask vance if he would apologize and he says no. look, for whatever reason, vance is trying to do what trump does. even though it doesn't totally work for trump, it works for trump better than it works for vance. he is doing this whole thing where he sort of doubles down and does not apologize, but it is good to apologize. you know? >> they are small men. they are not going to apologize. these are all just small, small men in the way that they behave. let me show you this as well. republicans were quick to criticize republicans for doing an interview with tim walz. watch. >> i think it is incredibly weak. weak sauce to show up with your

running mate. >> to have your running mate on you -- on with you is really insulting i think, to her. >> why does kamala harris need, i don't know, a security blanket that they have to sit down together. >> she's got her emotional support dog, tim walz. >> again they either think we're stupid or we don't have a record of past interviews because biden, obama, trump, romney, every single candidate has done an interview with their vice president by their side. yet when a woman presidential candidate does it, republicans are up in arms, saying it is a security blanket. >> it is just, they will go after anything and i am old enough to remember the present. it is not even enough to be old enough to remember the way things used to be. it is the way things are and the way things continue to be. i think it is not giving that any gravity and being like, shut up, losers.

it is the way to be because they are being losers about it and again, you want to talk policy, talk policy, but they don't have winning policy, so they are resorting to making up scandals. >> i want to get your thoughts on this because i think the media plays a big part in this. we are normalizing a little of this which is shameful on the media. i'm speaking collectively on all of us against different platforms. the media is not calling it out enough. they are indulging in this in some of the questions asked of the campaign and getting them to respond. >> that is a great example. in the interview we saw that harris was asked to respond to different attacks from donald trump. i'm not sure what we get from that, right? we want policy. we want to know about her. voters want to hear about her experiences in the government, but her feelings about some of the really atrocious things he said to her, i don't know how, and by repeating that -- >> how will that help of voter

make their decision about who to vote for? >> by repeating them you are elevating them. you are reminding people about them. one of the things that really helped trump in 2016 is that the mainstream media would repeat his lies. they would say trump says hillary clinton is blah blah blah. that framing did help him and give him a lot of free media. >> we have been doing some horrendous work on the fact checking as well. some of the fact checking we have been seeing coming out of publications about trump's comments. really appreciated as always. up next, j.d. vance makes a campaign stop at a firefighter union reception to win their endorsement and instead he got booed. nty-two-hr odor control... full of skin-loving ingredients. plus, it's dermatologist and gynecologist approved. introducing whole body deodorant from dove. sometimes jonah wrestles with falling asleep... ...so he takes zzzquil. the world's #1 sleep aid brand. and wakes up feeling like himself.

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remained as popular and respected across a wide swath of americans. a new survey shows americans approval of labor is up to 70%, near its highest level since the 1960s. only 27% say they disapprove. the afl-cio represents more ljic than 12.5 million workersx>1: a its president joins me now. liz, thank you so much for making time for us. in the past few years we've seen a lot of union activism. writers, screen actors striking. we have also seen workers attempt to unionize at places like starbucks and i mentioned that gallup poll, amazingly despite how divided this country is on so many issues and how much distrust there is an institutions, support for labor unions has skyrocketed to 70 up from 48 in 2009. what do you attribute that to? how do you explain it? >> yeah, we are actually more popular than ice cream, which is hard to do.

but i attribute it to the fact that workers are fed up, they are fired up and they finally see unions as a path to make change. because they see union members working through the pandemic. healthcare workers given garbage bags as ppe and they said no and walked out because they had union protections and got the ppe they deserved. all through these past years where workers have been mistreated. you know, not had control over their lives. they see their bosses making more and more money. they want a piece of the pie and they see unions as a pathway to get there. >> as i mentioned, vance, you know he wasn't the only vice presidential candidates and to address the international association of fire fighters. tim walz was there, too, and cited his own membership in a teachers union and got a much warmer welcome than vance. >> maybe more of us should be

dues paying members, but i can promise you this. when vice president harris and i win your election, we will have your back like you have hours this entire time. >> it is notable that the firefighters union backed biden early in the 2020 race. however both of firefighters and the teamsters have yet to endorse. why do you think that is and what would the case be to your union members? >> well, the firefighters are looking at the candidates. just like many of our unions. we have 60 in the umbrella of the afl-cio. we, as a movement, have endorsed walz and harris of course, but each union has their own issues they take a look at. i think what you saw at the convention was very emblematic of the fact that they have seen this movie before. they know what a -- what a trump-vance ticket would look like. it would mean eliminating bargaining as we know it, let

alone extend it to firefighters looking to expand it in states that don't have it. project 2025's agenda spells out that they would be coming after, you know, the ability to form unions and vance sponsored a bill that would institute company unions, so it would not be a free and fair voice for working people. i think working people are smart. union members are ready, you know, to get the vote out for the real pro worker ticket, which is the harris-walz ticket. >> i want to if i can switch gears to another important topic within the democratic coalition. there is a big debate going on about the ftc chair. michelle goldberg in the new york times writes that billionaire donors have it out for this legal prodigy. referring to democratic donors publicly calling on harris to not keep her in her position at the ftc, where she has been

fighting for consumers and fighting against monopolies. what are your thoughts on this? what do you make of ftc chair lina khan and if she should stay in her position or not? >> well, chair con has been bringing the voice of consumers into these discussions. it is obviously in the best interests of workers to have someone who is scrutinizing what has become, you know, more and more monopolies where companies are merging and really boxing out workers abilities to fight back and get their fair share. so i think that harris, obviously was part of the biden- harris administration. still is and will continue to bring working people's voices to the center of economic policies. she has said that building the middle class will be at the center of her presidency and unions built the middle class.

so we are very confident that she will continue to put working people's perspectives and give us a seat at the table through her appointments in these agencies. >> all right, liz shuler, thank you for your time. i appreciate your insights as always. >> thank you. coming up, we've all seen dramatic images of the u.s. withdrawal from afghanistan, but what happened after cameras stopped rolling? i will show you that next. t-mobile connects 100,000 delta airlines employees. powers tractor supply stores nationwide with reliable 5g business internet. and helps red bull revolutionize coverage of live events. this is how business goes further with t-mobile for business. it's time. yes, the time has come for a fresh approach to dog food.

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a bold, a bold, new documentary picks up where most western media left off in afghanistan. days after the chaotic u.s. withdrawal in 2021, he risked his life to film the taliban takeover. he followed a taliban air force leader and his soldiers into an american base called hollywood gait, where they found over $7 billion worth of weapons the u.s. left behind. take a look.

>> [ speaking in a global language ] >> he was >> he was given unprecedented access and insight into the movements and thinking of the taliban. his film captured their one- year transformation from a fundamentalist militia into now a heavily armed military regime. with us now is the director of hollywood gait. thank you so much for making time for us. as you were watching the news of the withdrawal, walk me through what made you decide to go to kabul to start filming. how did you obtain this access ? >> actually these images started

playing at the airport with everyone going to the airport and trying to leave afghanistan in 2021. it was terrific to see these images that you are playing now on the tv and when we saw that, especially those clinging to the airplane and trying to fly with it and they fell from there and died. the fear in the eyes of people have not let us arrest so we decided to go to afghanistan and i realized in tenures of connections i made working with journalism and at the beginning the taliban was seeking kind of validation through journalism. we got in at that time and if i had gone days later to afghanistan i would not have gotten access. >> i was going to ask you about that access. did you ever feel unsafe with taliban rank and file? what was a moment that you may

have been over your head? did you ever feel that throughout the filming at all? >> 42 years of war has been imposed on the generation currently living in afghanistan, including the taliban. they are quite impulsive and suffering from ptsd, so any second you cannot trust what they are doing and they never trusted me. i never trusted them fully and this was the kind of relationship that was happening. >> i know that as i understand it you could not film civilians while you are making this movie with the taliban, but what were some of the things you observed or noticed about civilian life in the early weeks and months in afghanistan under the taliban, particularly for women which has in the past three years considerably gotten worse? >> i have seen, as you said, i have seen the situation in the beginning where the taliban

said we will come in and be free. we will now ban them from schools and it keeps moving. until the most recent law that they imposed, saying that the woman's voice in public, if it is heard, it is forbidden, which is the weirdest kind of rule they came up with, that they are doing today. >> as you are probably very well aware, the issue of afghanistan has very much fallen out of the public eye or the political discourse in this country. unless it is for political points from one side or the other. why do you think this documentary is so important for the public? perhaps more so in america than the west to see. >> it is very important to look and see and learn from the mistakes one does. saying that this is this

parties side and unfortunately it is 20 years of war that four different administrations has been making the situation in afghanistan into what it is today. it took four different administrations, two different parties, to make afghanistan where it is today. it should take both together to fix the situation in afghanistan and the people should understand that the u.s. invasion has left afghanistan where it is today. >> are you still in touch with the taliban? the $7 billion of hardware that was left behind, do you know what has come of that three years on since 2021? is it being used, have the taliban been able to repurpose it for their own purposes? >> unfortunately from the moment i left afghanistan i had to cut connections for my own safety and security. i saw like everybody else on the news that they had a

celebration of three years in power. which had more weapons than where i found myself three years ago. >> and let me ask you if i can about how you see the situation in afghanistan right now when people are looking at it three years on. the taliban has certainly been getting stronger. do you think based on your reporting, how you see as you describe the mistakes of the past 20 years of war in afghanistan, could this have been prevented based on what you have seen and documented? >> based on what i have seen and documented, the only thing we cannot move past is the obscene power of those who worship war and the pain of generations. afghanistan is a country that has never had the choice. people of afghanistan for the past 50 years did not have the choice of having the taliban ruling them. also they did not have the choice to have the u.s. and nato invade their country and

the soviet union before that. it is a nation that is torn by war and it took many invasions to make the country what it is today and leaving it for the taliban was not the solution, but waiting and having to conduct another war could not be the solution because war begets war. >> it is exactly where we find ourselves now and as i mention it is a country that is not very much on the radar of a lot of western news organizations anymore, unfortunately. ibrahim nash'at, thank you so much for your time. i greatly appreciated and congrats on this powerful and important documentary. >> thanks. >> and thank you for making time for us. make sure to come back tomorrow night at 7:00 p.m. eastern. we will discuss newly unearthed interviews revealing j.d. vance is consistent disdain for women and those who choose not to have children. until then, i am ayman mohyeldin in new york. have a good night. no, no!

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