in a presidential election year, all eyes underbly are on the two major party presidential campaigns. we now, of course, have had both the republican national convention and the democratic national convention. every day, we have new rounds of

polling that come out, both the national polls and the swing state polls. are generally telling the same story right now, they're telling a story that vice president kamala harris is doing significantly better against donald trump than president biden had been doing in his campaign. that is comparatively good news for the democrats. they are, apparently, better off now with harris as their candidate than they were before the switch from biden to harris. that said, in absolute terms, the polls, national polls, and the swing state polls, broadly speaking, don't really give either party a reason to celebrate right now. vice president harris may be doing better than biden was against trump, but it doesn't mean that she is clearly winning against trump. it's basically a tie between the two candidates right now. and that produces all sorts of interesting dynamics to watch for, when it is this close, little differences between the candidates and their campaigns can make a very interesting --

not only for an interesting contrast, but can make a big difference in terms of the ultimate results. so, for example, right now, trump's campaign appears to be maneuvering to try to get him out of the one debate he agreed to with kamala harris. that debate is supposed to happen two weeks from now on september 10th, but trump's campaign and trump himself are apparently trying to get out of it. the harris campaign has cut a video together, and complaining about the terms of the debate. they have overlaid the sound of him complaining about the date with -- they've overlayed him complaining about the debate with the sound of chickens clucking, so, they're clearly sort of baiting him about this. but it does seem like trump and his campaign are trying to get him out of it, which is fascinating. they may try to get all the way to the general election without a single debate against harris. worth noting that trump's campaign events are getting a little bit weird.

at an arizona event a few days ago, there was backstage camera angle that caught this on the teleprompter as republican senate candidate kari lake was speaking, as you say there, it says minus 5:35, meaning, you are 5 minutes and 35 seconds off your allotted time. then underneath it says please get off the stage. a minute later, there's another shot. she's now, what is it, minus 6:23. minutes and 23 seconds over her time, and now the instruction to her says, please get off stage, trump waiting. this is the same event when trump got an endorsement from an arizona police union, and while the union president was making his pro-trump remarks and basically giving the endorsement, it seems like trump got bored or annoyed or something, he just kind of crept up on the guy and was looming over his shoulder and frowning at him. at one point, he leans in and he

apparently tells this guy that he needs to get lost and get off the stage. and the police union guy appears a little rattled by this, maybe even a little startled, starts flipping through pages, quickly gets his stuff together and then awkwardly slinks off, because trump told him to get out. that's a nice way to receive an endorsement. that was on friday, at an event in glendale, arizona. and now today, that same police union announced that they're endorsing the democratic u.s. senate candidate in arizona, the guy who is running against republican kari lake. that same police union is endorsing combat veteran ruben gallegos gallegos. i mean, they had already given trump his endorsement, so, that one couldn't be reeled back in, but if this situation here, if this was trump trying to turn on the charm to also get this union's endorsement for the republican senate candidat he

was ostensibly there to support, well, we all know how good he is at sharing the glory, sharing the spotlight. get off stage, trump waiting. like i said, when it is this close, when it is essentially a tie, it is worth watching, even the small differences, and even the nuances between the two campaigns, because anything could be determined. over the course of this hour, we're going to have some news about how democrats appear to have put north carolina back on their own side of the electoral map, at least they hope to have. a really interesting story there. also, for what it's worth, tonight, as i mentioned, when i spoke with jen a moment ago, i'm going to show here on this show this hour tonight the very first clip that we are releasing from a new movie that i have just helped to make, it's about the first trump impeachment. and you probably think you know all there is to know about trump's first impeachment -- you don't. and i think that story,

bizarrely, ends up being not just really entertaining in the way that we've told it, i think it is at least for me, but i think it is particularly relevant, as trump is running for re-election. so, we've got that clip from "russia with love" coming up, and i'll tell you how you can get tickets to go see the movie. anyway. so, like i said, there's lots to watch between the two campaigns. and it is underable in presidential election years that all eyes are on that top level contest between ty parties and their presidential candidates. but in a presidential election year like this, with just, you know, two months to go until the big day, may i also suggest that you don't sleep on what is happening in the states. yes, watch the two major parties, yes, watch their two candidates, yes, watch the way the presidential campaigns fight each other and the nuances of how they compete. but watch what is happening in the states.

because sometimes, even in an election year, what is happening in the states just seems like it can't possibly actually be happening. for example, how is this for a local news lead this weekend in michigan? >> things got off to an odd start at the michigan republican party convention in flint today. former michigan gop chair christina carramo was escorted out of the event by police. >> yes that is an odd start. things did get off to an odd start. you know, even if this weren't the state republican party in one of the most important swing states in the country in a presidential election year, yes, that does sound like an odd start for the michigan republican party state convention. >> former michigan gop chair christie ya carramo, who was ousted from leadership, made an appearance at the event, but was removed by flint police.

new chair pete hoch stra was greeted by some boos as he took the stage. >> we've had problems in this state party. >> officials say she was asked to take a seat, but refused, and was also asked to leave, but refused again. that prompted law enforcement to get involved, escorting her out of the building for, quote, causing a disruption and clogging up the floor. >> causing a disruption and clogging up the floor. "detroit news" reporter was able to capture this view of the former state republican party chair being escorted out of the state republican party convention by police. it was followed by some pushing and shoving, maybe even a little punching. it's hard to tell exactly what is going on there, but clearly something that is not politics is happening here, as police are called in to remove from the state republican party convention the woman who claims she still is the chair of the michigan republican party.

she was elected in 2023, she was removed in january 2024, this year. she then refused to go in february, a michigan court ruled she had to go. as of this summer, she was still trying to get courts to reinstate her as michigan party chairman, and as of this weekend, the cops were called in to get her out when she appeared on the floor of the state party convention. did i mention that this is one of the most important statements in the country for the presidential race? and we're two months out from the presidential election. all right. the or tensable state chairman is almost booed off the stage as he tries to convene their state convention, and the person who claims she's still the real party chair is escorted out by police, i mean -- it's been months now that in the michigan state republican party, they've been calling the cops on each other and getting in fistfights at their official republican paratill events.

we pay so much attention to how the two party's presidential campaigns are doing, competing against each other in swing state polls, you know, i mean, it's worth noticing when things are absolutely bananas with one of the parties in those states. and it is not only happening in one state. i mean, not long after the michigan republican party went to war with itself and ousted its chair and she refused to go, and she took them to court and nobody knew who was running the place, not long after that, a version of the same thing also happened in the state of florida. right after michigan threw out their state republican party chair, florida threw out theirs, too, after he was being investigated for allegations of rape. police also said they were investigating him for video voierrism charges, for allegedly illegally recording a sexual encounter without consent. the florida republican party threw him out. police later cleared him of

charges in both investigations. but then right on the heels of that, the state of arizona lost their state republican chair, too. that same republican senate candidate who awkwardly appeared with trump this weekend, kari lake, she released secretly recorded audio tapes of the arizona state republican chairman in which she said he was trying to bribe her to leave the senate race. she also reportedly threatened to release more tapes of him and so he quit as arizona state republican party chairman. then, right on the heels of that, the national republican party lost its chair, too. ronna mcdaniel pushed out, resigned, in order to make room for donald trump's daughter-in-law. her experience for the job included being a singer in addition to being to married to one of trump's sons. the blond one. that seemed like a legit choice for the leadership of the

national republican party, and so, ronna mcdaniel had to go. but all of that has happened just this year in 2024. it's only august. but i mean, michigan, florida, arizona, the national republican party, they all lost their top leadership under embarrassing, if not terrible circumstances. all in a crucial election year. and now it's happened again. this time, it has happened in colorado. >> we start tonight with some big news in colorado politics. the state's republican party chairman is out. dave williams and other party leaders were voted out as leadership of the colorado gop today. but those party leaders have said they consider today's meeting and vote fake. the meeting started at noon and is still going. right now, republican party members are voting on who will now lead the state party. 9 news reporter lauren scafiti

has been there all day. >> reporter: it's 2 1/2 months until election day and colorado republican party members are still fighting their own leader. >> and to those who say, you know, don't change a rider in the middle of a race -- that's -- that's a valid argument, unless, of course, the rider is trying to kill the horse. >> that was a valid argument, unless the rider is trying to kill the horse. so, that was this weekend, saturday. as colorado republican party officials met to vote out their state party chairman who they said was destroying the party. now, for his part, it's a little bit like what happened in michigan. the republican party chair in colorado is refusing to recognize the validity of the vote to remove him. because of course he is. he says the meeting this saturday in colorado, where they voted to fire him, he says it was, quote, a sham and illegitimate and illegal. as of sunday, the day after they voted to fire him, he at least

still had custody of the state republican party letterhead, on which to re release his stateme where he said it was a sham and still in charge. maybe possessions the nine-tenths of the law. maybe you are still kind of the state republican party chairman if you still possess some 8 1/2 by 11 letterhead that has your name on it. i don't know. i mean, who knows? one person who says she is still the chair of the republican party in michigan was ocean courted out of that party's state convention by cops this weekend, while fists flew. another person who says he's still the chair of the republican party in colorado was voted out by the other republicans, but he says their vote doesn't count and he has the letterhead to prove it and he's still the real chair and he'll convene his own meeting this weekend and everyone will see who is really in charge. doesn't it seem like a great idea to put those folks and that party in charge of the whole country.

and then there's georgia. for a few weeks now, we've been covering sort of increasingly astonishing story about what is happening not to politics broadly, but specifically to the election system in georgia. one of the things that has happened over the last four years since trump tried to overturn his election loss in 2020 is that the republican party has installed election officials in counties and states all across the country who not only parrot trump's idea that the 2020 election was somehow stolen, but they have started doing what he wanted election officials to do for him in 2020. they have started refusing to certify election results. now, they've done this in a number of states around the country, some blue states, some swing states, some red states, but the state where republicans have done this more often than any other state in the country is georgia.

and georgia, you will recall, is a state where trump was indicted for multiple felonies under state law, including a rico charge for his efforts to try to overthrow georgia's election result in 2020 to try to get georgia's election officials to declare he was the winner, even though he had lost that state. republicans are now trying these gambits to block the certification results everywhere, but they have been trying the most aggressively in georgia. but a really alarming situation has remerged in georgia, because there is a newly appointed pro-trump majority on the official georgia state election board, and in recent weeks, they have passed a flurry of new rules that purport to leaguize some of these tactics, that purport to empower local election officials to actually do this stuff. to block the certification of the vote, or to delay the certification of the vote.

and this state election board in georgia is apparently planning to do much more of this. even as we are getting closer and closer to the election date. "the washington post" just reported that the election board plans to adopt nearly a dozen additional rules beyond the new ones they've just put into effect over coming weeks. quote, despite warnings from state and local officials that the lateness of the calendar all but guarantees confusion and mistakes. and i think part of understanding the importance of this tactic is that confusion and mistakes are probably the point. it's one thing to say, we want the right to flip and election result, that's going to be sort of a hard sell. it's another thing to say, we want the right and we claim the right to essentially report that there's no knowable result here. that there isn't any discernible result, that there's a big question about it, that it seems like there's a cloud over the result. if you can not just flip the result, not directly flip the result, but instead, just create

a sense that there's some confusion, that there's some lack of clarity, that there's something wrong with the way the election was conducted, and so a result isn't organically and clearly emerging, that can justify doing all sorts of extraordinary, strange stuff to come up with what purports to be an election result in that state. so, i'll be honest with you, i have found that the -- these actions by the state election board in georgia have just been jaw-dropping. i've been covering this kind of stuff for a long time, i covered a lot of different versions of different types of these things, not just in the trump era, but republicans in all sorts of elections before this, but i've never really seen what's happened in georgia. this isn't just the trump campaign making crazy claims or people advocating that the state do crazy stuff. this actually is the state. this is the official election board that sets the rules for

how elections are handled in georgia. and they are not just discussing crazy stuff, they are passing these rules that are rudy giuliani hair dye dripping down the face crazy. and they're not just asking someone else to do crazy stuff related to the election, they are the elections board and they are doing it. so, i mean, i'll just be honest, watching the georgia situation with their state election board, these past few weeks, has about tripled my blood pressure. it's been worrying me so much i wrote an op-ed about it in sunday's "new york times" and it is not like me to do something like that. but i have been very worried. but now, i got to tell you, in today's news, something appears to be breaking on this subject. the shenanigans at the georgia state election board have now provoked what is being called "ferocious push-back," particularly from georgia's own voter ridge ration and local officials. local officials have, indeed, been fighting these radical late changes to georgia's election

rules, the rules that really do seem to be designed to give republicans cover to refuse to declare the official results of the election in november. local officials, voter registration officials, local elections officials at the county level and beyond in georgia, they have been pushing back vociferously. today, state legislators and democratic georgia congresswoman lucy mcbath spoke at the georgia state capitol demanding this runaway election board be stopped, not only because they're trying to mug the elections process in the state, but also because they're doing so in a way that seems to violate the rules by which bodies like this are supposed to operate. after that press conference today at the georgia state capitol, two really, really interesting things happened. first, the republican governor of georgia, brian kemp, did something very interesting. he made a request to the state attorney general asking for clarification, asking if he, as governor, has the power to

remove members of the state elections board, if it's warranted by ethics concerns. that is fascinating. we will see what the attorney general says in response to that query from the governor. i expect that the attorney general's response will likely come quickly. if georgia governor brian kemp then does decide to remove these pro-trump election board members who have been upending that state's whole elections process just weeks before the presidential election -- wow. i don't know. watch this space, that would be a very, very big deal. so, that's one very big thing that happened today. but then, also, late today, a new lawsuit was filed from the democratic party of georgia and the national democratic party, they say, quote, with support from the harris/walz campaign. as of tonight, they are suing the state election board in georgia to stop them from what they've been doing. the democrats' big new lawsuit, again, filed tonight, asking georgia state courts to make

clear that local trump loyalist officials don't actually get to make it up as they go when it comes to certifying the election results. no matter what the state election board has been telling them. local officials can't just opt out of certifying election results. they can't decide on their own that they're going to delay the certification, to prevent georgia's electoral counts from being counted in washington. the democrats' lawsuit tonight asking georgia courts to act quickly to clarify that what this maga republican elections board in georgia has been trying to do cannot be done. and that these rules they have purportedly tried to pass in order to give local elections officials all this leeway to mess up the vote count in georgia, that that leeway is not real. that legally, they must vert if i, and there's no way they can mess it up. so, i'll tell you, honestly, i have been wondering and worrying for a few weeks now about whether the democrats, you know,

push-back, their inevitable challenge to what the trump folks were doing in georgia was going to be strong enough to turn it around, to make sure that georgia voters will be able to vote in a normal election, where their votes are counts and the vote tallies are completed and are certified and they matter when it comes to picking the president of the united states. i mean, kamala harris and tim walz are doing a georgia bus tour this week. harris is doing a big event this week in savannah. they are going for it in georgia, as they should. but in a presidential election year, as important as it is to watch the way the two major party's candidates are campaigning, to see the way they are competing to try to win the presidency, it is also worth watching what happens in the states. the radical stuff that republicans have been doing to the georgia state election infrastructure means that democrats need to try both to earn people's vote in georgia

this year in traditional terms, but democrats also need to fight this whole other fight, to force the republicans to actually consent to count the vote, as well. as of tonight, we know what some of that democratic push-back looks like. quentin folks from the harris/walz campaign tells us this tonight, quote, for months, maga republicans in georgia and across the country have been trying to lay the groundwork, to challenge the election results when they lose again in november. but democrats are prepared, and we will stop them. certifying an election is not a choice, it's the law. a few unelected extremists can't just decide not to count your vote. that's why we have won case after case in court, fending after maga efforts to chip away at our democracy. we will win this case, too, and keep fighting so that every eligible voter can confidently cast their vote knowing it will count. again, that statement tonight from the harris/walz campaign, as the democratic party

nationally and the democratic party of georgia file this big push-back, this big lawsuit in georgia to try to stop what trump republicans are doing there to mess up the vote count. finally, a big democratic punch-back against what thus far are the worst election shenanigans in the whole country in the state of georgia. georgia congresswoman lucy mcbath joins us tonight. we have lots to get to tonight. stay with us. have lots to get t stay with us save up to 70% off everything home. yes! end summer with can't-miss surprise flash deals that make your busiest time, your best. all with fast shipping right to your doorstep. shop wayfair's labor day clearance now through september 3rd to score up to 70% off! ♪ wayfair. every style. every home. ♪

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so, here it is, filed this afternoon in superior court in fulton county, georgia. a 44-page lawsuit brought by the georgia democratic party and the national democratic party. they are suing the state election board in georgia over this very recent rash of strange new rules that the state election board has just passed to the growing alert of local elections officials. rules that threaten what's supposed to be the boring process of counting up the votes and reporting who won. democrats say the republican majority of georgia's state election board is trying to turn the, quote, straightforward and mandatory process of certifying the vote into a, quote, broad license for individual county election board members to delay certification of the vote. they say the new rules are designed to, quote, invite chaos.

this new lawsuit just filed tonight follows an ethics complaint from the recent former chair of the fulton county board of elections, another from the democratic state senator, these complaints asked governor brian kemp of georgia to remove from the state election board these republican appointees who have voted for all these radical changes just before this fall's election. and amazingly, it peers that governor kemp might actually be thinking about doing that. governor kemp's office says he is seeking advice from the state attorney general about whether as governor he has the authority to take somebody off the georgia election board. as these trump republicans have tried effectively a brazen takeover of the elections infrastructure of this state, the push-back has now become ferocious and quite interesting. there is an emerging sense in georgia and beyond that these trump loyalists who took over

that state elections board may have just gone too far. already this month, they passed new rules that add requirements for certifying the vote, that let any member of a county board demand reams of documents as an excuse to avoid certifying an election. now the board has cued up 11 more suggested rules for georgia counties to follow, 11 more changes in the way georgia administers elections. changes about poll watchers and absentee ballots and counting ballots by hand and and and. the board plans to vote on these changes next month, and then, they say, they want to roll them all out to all 159 of georgia's counties before election day on november 5th. so, they don't want the rules to exist until the end of september and then they want all the counties in georgia to have radically changed everything about the way they administer elections by november 5th. the counties are saying, in one voice, there is no way we can do that, even if these rules were

good faith changes. and the georgia state capitol today, with governor kemp publicly considering taking action, georgia democrats called for him to do more than just think about it. >> today, i am joining my esteemed colleagues in calling for governor kemp to hold members of the state elections board accountable, to stand up for the rule of law, and to ensure that our democratic process is protected. he must not allow our state elections board to be taken over by donald trump. >> joining us now is georgia democratic congresswoman lucy mcbath. congresswoman, really appreciate you taking the time to be with us tonight. thank you. >> thank you. >> i was wondering if you could just put in your own words what you think is going on with this georgia state election board. i've been watching this for weeks now, with sort of

increasing levels of alarm and increasingly high blood pressure, but from your perspective, how would you make the country listening right now understand what it is they're trying to do? >> thank you so much for even asking, rachel. but the fight for equal rights for me is very personal. growing up, my father was illinois branch president of the naacp, so, i saw up close how much our civil rights leaders sacrificed to ensure that we have a voice in this country, and my dad actually took me at 3 years of age, i was at the -- in the stroller at the march on washington, so i am absolutely appalled to see that we're still fighting the very same fight today that my parents and our civil rights icons before us have still been fighting. and in our state, we witnessed incredible progress up until this point. georgia elected joe biden and kamala harris, while electing two state senators, jon ossoff and raphael warnock, but in

response to that, we see that trump has tried to overtly steal the georgia election. and these rules that are passed by the state elections board make it much easier for them to do so. so, georgians know that trump is working to sew chaos and division, and to roll back our democracy. and we refuse to let that happen. we are not going back. and thanks to state leaders, these efforts to subvert our democracy, they're not going to go unchallenged. >> the process from here on out seems to me both interesting and a little bit unpredictable, because, of course, there's some intrarepublican dynamics going on here, too. governor kemp today asking the state attorney general to clarify whether he has the power as governor to remove members from that state elections board. i saw arguments today, some of the people who spoke alongside

you at the georgia state capitol saying that absolutely the governor does have that authority, not only can he, but he must investigate these ethics violations that have been made against the members that have voted for these changes. do you expect governor kemp, either personally, or through his administration somehow, to take action here that would essentially stop the harm that the state election board is doing? >> well, i'm certainly not an attorney, i'm not a lawyer, but every lawyer that i have spoken to says the law is very, very clear and that governor kemp is legally required to follow this law. you know, georgia is the birthplace of the civil rights movement, and from john lewis to martin luther king jr., andrew young, the list goes on, if we truly believe in our democraic values and process, then we have a responsibility to continue their fight. so, how is brian kemp going to claim that he is for law and

order, but refuse to follow the law? so, we have to remember that brian kemp's second in command. let's remember this, the lieutenant governor, burt jones, is a fake elector who attempted to overturn the election here in georgia. so, georgians are working as hard as we can. we are looking to stop this chaos, and we cannot let donald trump take control of the state elections board. we must stand up to the rule of law, and we hope that our governor will do the same. >> congresswoman lucy mcbath, thank you so much for making time for us tonight. it was -- it landed differently, to see you, as a member of congress, standing there with those state legislators today, making that case in the capitol. i know this is a all hands on deck moment for georgia democrats. appreciate you helping us understand it. >> thank you. >> all right, we've got much more ahead here tonight. do stay with us. night. do sta y with us.

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looking at presidential polling averages from the swing states, it's clear who has the momentum right now, according to "the washington post's" polling averages. kamala harris and donald trump are practically tied in all seven swing states, but the momentum is with the democrats since president biden decided not to run for re-election. harris has increased democrats' lead in just about every state by at least three points. which is no small feat in any of these tight races, in any of these hard-fought states.

but it's particularly striking in north carolina, where democrats haven't won the presidential race since 2008. and obviously the enthusiasm for harris and the strength of her campaign has a lot to do with it, but there is something else going on in north carolina, as well. this november, on the same ballot as the presidential race, north carolina voters will be choosing a new governor. the guy on the left here is the democratic nominee, his name is josh stein, the guy on the right side of your screen, is who the republicans picked, his name is mark robinson. you know, the movie "black panther?" the republican candidate for governor mark robinson says that movie was, quote, created by an agnostic jew and put to film by a satanic marxist. really? he says the music industry is run by satan and by the illuminati. he calls gay people filth and maggots. he says kids who survive school

gus massacres are, quote, media prosti-tots and need to quote shut up. and so, with that record, survey says -- eh. even in a closely fought swing state like north carolina, north carolina does not want that guy. the republican candidate for governor in north carolina is currently polling 14 points behind his democratic opponent, josh stein. democrats are not only hoping to beat mark robinson very badly, they're hoping he will be such a drag on republicans up and down the ticket that it will give kamala harris and every other democrat on the north carolina ballot a considerable boost. north carolina democrats have announced a fairly epic get out the vote effort. they're holding 30 different college campus events across the state in 30 days. 30 campuses in 30 days. that campaign will be led by

anderson clayton, chair of the north carolina democratic party, and she's only 26 years old. she's the youngest chair of any state political party in the whole country. she joins us now. thank you for being with us. appreciate your time. >> thank you for having us. >> i'm looking at this through an admittedly reductive lens, about who is at the top of the ticket on the ballot in your state. are there nuances or angles here that i ought to be noticing or that should give people a different impression about how things are going to be fought in your state? >> no, i think you laid out the case against mark robinson just fine, but i also think that the extremism at the top of the ticket is one that we're finding that runs straight down the ball lot, as well. north carolina is one of 11 states in the entire country that elects a counsel. it's nine other positions, our attorney general that we have, congressman jeff jackson running against dan bishop, who is the author of "the bathroom bill" in

north carolina, hb-2, if you remember 2016 in our state that cost north carolina over $3 billion. you've got michelle morrow, who is running against mo green to be superintendant of schools right now. someone that called for the public execution of barack obama to be publicly televised. she belongs nowhere near our classrooms right now. and mo green is someone who has been the superintendent on the third largest school system in north carolina and made the case, you know, our children, our public schools matter more than anything this year. so, i think it's not just donald trump and mark robinson that we are looking at this year or extremism, but it runs throughout. and also down to our state legislative races that have fully endorsed what mark robinson stands for. we've not had one republican in our state that separated themselves from him this year. >> i was going to ask you about that. sometimes when you get extremism of the kind that you're describing, that opens up an opportunity for the nonextremist party, in this case, the democrats, to win crossover

voters, to start targeting a different audience than you might in a typical election to try to target not just independents, but even republicans to cross over and sort of vote for the more sane ticket. how are you allocating resources, how are you thinking about the type of messaging, the type of events, the spending you're doing in your party to maximize persuadable voters and reaching them? >> we have a campaign that's reaching people across the state. i think that we've taken the approach this year that everybody is somebody worth talking to. and that means, you know, because of the fact that we have true public servants running for these positions, josh stein is someone that has taken on and been a consumer financial protection person in our attorney general's office before he was the attorney general. someone that's always been protecting the people of north carolina. and i think it's important that folks realize, that's not just a democrat that's running on your ballot, that's someone that cares about everybody up and down the ticket this year. and i'd go so far to look at

people like natasha marcus, running for commissioner of insurance in north carolina. people talk about the races that effect your pocketbooks the most. north carolina has had over 16 rate hikes in our state in the last eight years alone, because we've had a republican commissioner of insurance that's allowed for those rate hikes to happen. and it's taken insurance commission money this year -- or insurance money this year while he's been in the commissions office and hasn't been working for the people of north carolina. we've got a state senator natasha marcus running against him this year, and she's promised she's not taking a dime of insurance corporation money, because she wants to make sure that the people of north carolina knows who she represents. those are the folks that should appeal to anybody on a ballot, not just if you have a "d" behind your name. we're trying to speak to everybody this year, really. >> anderson clayton is the chair of the dimdemocratic party in nh carolina. eyes on you. every time i have spoken to you about what's happening in your state, i learn something new about what's happening in your state. you are a real communicator on

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knowing him. i don't know him. perhaps he's a fine man, perhaps he's not. i know nothing about him. but he did know lev parnas, and we know that because lev kept all the receipts. pictures, texts, secret recordings, even. and it turns out when you put them all together, they tell a story about that now mostly forgotten trump first impeachment that will blow your mind. you will not quite believe that this is a thing that happened in the way it did and we all lived through it and now the guy who did it is trying to become president again. that story is the focus of a new documentary that i helped to make called "from russia with lev." here's a little piece of it. >> in the beginning, i really looked up to him and i really cared for rudy giuliani. >> i'm here with my friends lev and igor. >> it was like a bromance made in heaven. >> at some point, almost overnight, rudy became lev's, i

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