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him good him good things must come to an end, and for us, the end is here. i am sam stein in for jonathan capehart. don't go anywhere. good evening, tonight on ayman, unrest in tel aviv after the discovery of bodies belonging to is really hostages in gaza. we speak to a key negotiator working back channels to secure a deal with hamas. plus, there is was another day, another example of jd vance's disdain for working women. new polling shows and a neck and neck contest between harris and trump, what will it take to gain an edge? i am ayman, let's do it.
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we come on the air tonight with more tragic news out of the middle east. the bodies of six is really hostages taken by thomas during the october 7th attack have been recovered in gaza. their bodies were found late yesterday in an underground tunnel between the southern city of rafah. according to the israeli military, it appears that the hostages were killed in the last 48 to 72 hours. they have been identified by the israeli government as carmel, eden, alexander, master sergeant, and american israeli hersh goldberg-polin. this news comes at a time of major civil unrest within the state of israel and it centers around the prime minister benjamin netanyahu and what most israelis think is his cynical refusal to accept a cease-fire and hostage deal. today, protests exploded across israel as demonstrations trying to pressure the government to close a deal. this news of the six uncovered
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bodies, they put out a statement, blasting netanyahu for abandoning the hostages, and calling on the public to take to the streets. today, they announced more than 300,000 had gathered in tel aviv, and more than 500,000 nationwide, calling it the mother of all protests. the protest movement gathered more momentum today as israel's largest labor organization announced a nationwide strike over the government's failure to secure a hostage release deal point president biden, kamala harris, and a host of american officials put out a statement mourning the death of the is really hostages. the massive protest in israel exposes a major disconnect between how the hostage and cease-fire negotiations are covered in america versus israel. in america, the biden administration rightfully puts the blame on hamas and the media tends to amplify that line. in israel, though, it is a much different story, with more nuanced around the details
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around what a hostage-cease- fire deal might actually entail. i want to give you a sampling of recent headlines in israeli media. how netanyahu has systematically followed tops to release hostages from hamas captivity. mr. death: austin families say netanyahu has condemned their loved ones to die. hostages mother claims chief told her a deal impossible because of politics. netanyahu's warble is not the hostages return, it is occupation of gaza. that is just a small sampling of the overwhelming evidence that freeing the hostages is not the aim of benjamin netanyahu, according to israeli media. last week, former israeli negotiator daniel beebe was on this show, and reminded us of an infamous coat from netanyahu several years ago. back in 2001, netanyahu said america is a thing you can move very easily. he was bragging about his ability to manipulate american politicians and the american political system, including his
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undercutting of the 1990s peace process. it is not the only time he has bragged about his ability to push america around. indeed, it is a huge reason why he has stayed in power for so long and white israelis keep re- electing them. and he has clearly had his way with the biden administration over the past 10 months. the israeli public is doing its own pushing of netanyahu, and it is massive protest that. we have yet to see any american leverage directed from the biden administration towards the netanyahu government. while the staggering death toll of palestinians in gaza and now the rising number killed in the west bank has not compelled the u.s. to use its massive leverage over israel to sign a cease-fire deal and hostage negotiation deal and finally end this war, perhaps now the tragic deaths of these six israeli hostages at the hands of hamas will. with us now from tel aviv's foreign correspondent matt bradley. it is good to see you, i know we have seen protests of the netanyahu government throughout his recent term in office, including after october 7th.
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but what is different now, what is different about these protests with the death of these six hostages? do you sense the size and intensity might actually change policy? >> yeah, i think in a word, you put the nail in the head there. the size of it, tonight was the size. i was out there for hours and it was just monumental. i have never seen anything like that before october 7th. and this is important to note here, but we are talking about these protests against netanyahu, they didn't just start tonight, they didn't just start on october 7th. they actually started years ago and there were very large protests last summer against netanyahu's so-called judicial reforms, in which he was essentially trying to kneecap the judiciary and prevent them from coming after him personally. that is another thing to remember. at one of the things that when
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we talk about them as you were mentioning, the difference between how this is perceived in the united states, by american politicians, by american media, and how it is perceived here, there is that memory among israelis that there was so much deep opposition to benjamin netanyahu before october 7th. and the situation in terms of where it is perceived, in terms of how the negotiations are perceived, those lay very evenly over the existing culture wars that have been here in israel for quite a while. you know, a lot of the people that we were seeing out today, tonight in these protests, they really are from the sort of leftist camp. they are opposed to the way netanyahu is conducting the war, they are opposed to the way he is trying to conduct negotiations to free the remaining hostages, and they are sickened by his insistence that the only way to free these hostages is to pursue a military approach against hamas. they want to see him compromise on negotiations to free those remaining hostages. but a lot of these people, a lot of the people leading the protest, a lot of the people
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who were participating were the same people out in protest before october 7th to oppose netanyahu's judicial reforms, that as i mentioned, what have empowered netanyahu more over the judiciary, over the supreme court. so, this really is, as we have seen over the better part of the last year, just widening this culture war divide that had already divided israelis even before october 7th, and that is one of the reasons why there is a difference in perception, because in america, we are working looking at this in terms of just what has happened since october 7th, whereas here, israelis have this memory and this tribalism that has already existed around whether or not they support netanyahu, whether or not they support his judicial reforms before october 7th. there were so many people who hated netanyahu even before october 7th because of what he was trying to do to the government, bending it to his will, and using his own political power to prevent judicial action against him personally. there were these outstanding fraud cases for which he still
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faces some very serious legal jeopardy, particularly if he is removed from the premiership. if he is no longer the prime minister, he could go to jail. so in a way, he is not just fighting for his career, he is not just fighting for his political future, he is fighting for his own personal theory, and a lot of protesters i spoke with out there are saying that, this was that cynical of a move by their own prime minister. that he is quite literally, and we have heard this time and time again, he is risking the lives, and in some cases sacrificing the lives of some of these hostages in the gaza strip in order to save his own political skin, and in order to just keep himself out of jail. >> matt bradley, i know it has been a long and busy day for you in tel aviv, thank you for staying up late for us, greatly appreciate it, my friend. as we speak, more than 100 hostages are still being held by hamas in gaza.
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the question is what will it take to bring them home safely and end this war? today, i spoke with someone trying to make that happen. the middle east director of the international community is organization, he was a key negotiator in the 2011 built to release from hamas captivity and is now conducting back channel negotiations with hamas. watch. thank you so much for joining us. i wanted to start with some reporting this weekend from the times of israel that said a key negotiator in the deal that led to the release of idf soldier from hamas captivity in 2011 had been privately negotiating with hamas at the request of hostage families, and had reached a deal with them. what can you tell us about those negotiations and this deal that you brokered? >> well, it is not a deal that is brokered yet, it has to go through the official channels, which is the official media of qatar, egypt, and the united states to hamas leadership. but what i understand is the
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hamas leadership has agreed to a deal that within the period of three weeks would bring the release of all 101 israeli hostages, those alive and dead, and would require israel to end the war, withdraw from gaza, and release palestinian prisoners. this is what hamas told me they will agree to. they're not issuing it in a statement of any time, but they said if the media should ask them, they will say that they do agree to such a deal and that it has to come back to the israeli government and to the israeli people to know that there is an option to save the remaining hostages, to bring them all home, and for the people of gaza and palestine and the region to know that this work can come to an end within three weeks. those positions of the withdrawal from israel within the gaza strip and release of the philadelphia corridor, they have been put out publicly as demands by hamas, but they have not been accepted by israel.
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why would israel suddenly accept this when these conditions have been stated in the past? >> because no one in the negotiations has been talking about bringing all the hostages home. the deal that president biden spoke about inmate and that has been negotiated over the last three months, is talking about a six-week, a 42 day cease- fire, in which time hamas would only release 32 hostages. phase two is still very cloudy and undefined, not knowing how long it would last and how many hostages would be released. what we are talking about here is the opportunity to bring home all the israeli hostages within a three-week period, and this is something has never been on the table. >> you had mentioned on x that one of the leaders of the israeli negotiations had told you that netanyahu does not want to end the war. why do you believe or why does that negotiator believe that the prime minister of israel does not want to end this war? >> well, that is what he has been told by the prime minister.
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what i reminded him is netanyahu was not the sole decision-maker in israel, we don't live in a dictatorship, we still have a democracy. there is a government, there is a parliament, and there are the people who are the sovereign here. i don't understand why the israeli negotiating team is afraid of the prime minister. they need to bring to the government options, alternatives, other deals, [ inaudible ] in order to prevent this deal from happening. and at the same time, we need for the united states or president biden to weigh in heavily and tell israel this war has to end, it is time. it is time to bring them all home and it is time to make a deal that is going to bring the hostages home. >> you bring up a really important point about the united states and i wanted to ask you about the role of the u.s. in all of this. if netanyahu is one of the barriers to getting a deal done, and based on what the hostage families have told us, what members of the netanyahu government, even members of netanyahu's own negotiating team, as you said, have blamed him, why is it, in your opinion,
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the u.s. administration using more of its leverage on netanyahu? >> i am not clear on why they are not, it certainly has something to do with the unique u.s.-israel relationship. it may have something to do with the fact that we are in election season, and none of the candidates want to be perceived as being against israel. i would suggest to them that pushing israel to end the war, in fact, compelling israel to end the war and bring the hostages home is not being against israel, it is really being in favor of the people of israel, because there is no victory in israel for this war if the hostages don't come home. we just had six more hostages killed. the military pressure of israel in gaza is killing the hostages. there is no military solution to the problem of hamas, and needs to be dealt with with the other neighbors of the arab countries who are also not interested in hamas staying in power, but this work has to come to an end after 50,000
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people killed in gaza and disease spreading, hunger, no clean water, this is a disaster, it has to come to an end, and the united states needs to use its power over israel to force it to bring this war to an end. it is for the benefit of israel that the war ends. >> let me ask you really quickly and we only have about 30 seconds, but why do you trust hamas and why should anyone in these negotiations? >> i don't trust hamas, and that's why i said it has to go through the official channels. qatar and egypt need to ask hamas, will you agree to this deal, and they need to relay that to israel. the deal has to go through the official channels, the united states has to support it. the head of the cia, you need to be part of this discussion and to convince israel to go for it if hamas says yes, it is a green light. >> gershon baskin, really appreciate you joining us with this important news this evening. >> thank you.
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next up, back here at home, jd vance has done it again. newly discovered audio of trump's running mate revealing what he really thinks about working women. >> [ music ] ic ] ♪ (man) yes! ♪ (vo) you've got your sunday obsession and we got you. now with verizon, get nfl sunday ticket from youtube tv on us and get every out-of-market sunday game. plus $800 off samsung galaxy z fold6. only on verizon. (jalen hurt) see you sunday.
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fulfill what he seems to think is their only purpose in life, which is having children. watch. >> i think the gender inequities stuff is like we need more. clearly this value set has made me a miserable person who can't have kids because i already passed the biological period when it was possible. >> that was a 2021 interview produced by white -- right wing nonprofit movement, an organization prior to project 2025. it is like vance is actively trying to sink trump's campaign at this point in a time when he is desperately trying to win woman voters. latosha brown, brittany cooper, ladies, it is great to have both of you with us. latosha, i've got to start with you. what do you think happened here, because at some point, you really have to wonder if the trump campaign failed, or
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did they select him because of the sexist views on women that are going to jack up the more support amongst his white male base? >> i mean, i think they knew who vance was. if they read his book reading his book, he refers to his own grandmother a lunatic. clearly, this is someone in his own biography who has mentioned that he has had problems even with his mother, with his grandmother, those who he claims that he has an affection for, who calls their grandmother a lunatic? so, clearly, i think that they certainly vetted him and thought that he would be a good pairing for trump, because they severely underestimated, i think, the power of women and what kind of impact that would have been >> yeah, i was going to say, to latosha's point, it seems advanced as a vision of what it and a certain type of women. anyone who doesn't fit his vision, he has to stand for,
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that is the kind of vision that the trump campaign wants to enforce by selecting somebody like jd vance. >> absolutely, i think he was selected because he is a more articulate version of the brute mentality around women that trump has. this is totally their viewpoint, it is not to the side, it is not leaked, this is the vision of america that they want to put forth. in one of the things that's interesting about his sound bite of him saying these women have no meaning, i think what is really true is men in this country, particularly white men are having a crisis of identity and meaning because their sin women have all of these games. that is why addressing this backlash on the right could go back into the home, just have babies, shut up, let men lead. it is patriarchy, just for a new era. >> latosha, there is this new abc news ipsos poll that shows vance with only 32% favorability rating and 44% on favorability rating. when you contrast to harris's running mate tim walz, he has a 42% favorability rating.
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we have one vice presidential candidate calling women miserable and childless cat ladies. the other is been called tampon tim for making sure that menstrual products are available in public schools. who do you think women will want to vote for in this election cycle? >> oh, well, i think that is a very easy choice at this point. i think it in any way the voter has respect for women and the power of women, i think tim walz is a great choice. and when you look at jd vance, i think he is on message around what the republicans are saying. ultimately, women don't have the power or agency over their bodies, ultimately they don't believe that if women have been sexually assaulted, the people should be held accountable if trump is there lead candidate. i think there is a new message, but i think the harris-walz campaign is sending a message as well, they're going to center the leadership of women, they have a man as the running mate who actually loves women
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and has called for the rights of women, so i think there is a clear distinction in this election. >> there was this shameless video that we saw of vance, you know, in some ways it really kind of reinforces, as you were saying, the broader message that trump had, perhaps he is doing it in a more articulate way. is it that they have just basically written women off, that they don't think they need women to win in this country? because it seems very counterintuitive that if you're trying to widen the base of who will vote for you, you wouldn't want to take 50% of the country and just completely toss them out. >> i think you are seeing trump try to walk some of the stuff back, now he is saying he doesn't have a problem with ivf. but the problem isn't that they want to alienate women, it is that they actually are supported by statistics. and every prior election of this entry, most white women have voted in the majority for republicans. and so, the democratic party is actually the party that is now trying to peel off some of that contingent of committed white women voters. the republican party has been able to have this message that
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is very anti-woman and still win with white woman voters. where they have been losing with women voters is women of color. and now, the question for all of us becomes our white women going to get the message that this party does not actually support their rights to make decisions about their lives, does not support the overall just belief in the ability to have choices and options about who they want to be? >> yeah, their overall well- being. britney, latosha, don't go anywhere. up next, trump and harris battled for a key voting block that could determine who takes the november election. we will tell you about that. >> [ music ] ] , the lazy, are k lazy... (woman 2) ...on our la-z-boy furniture. (vo) la-z-boy. long live the lazy. t-mobile “savings”, take one. ...missed me the last couple... try just standing and say... “at t-mobile, you get tons of benefits and you can still save versus the other guys.” forget it. check out the t-mobile savings calculator to see how much you can save. are these my only lines? they sure are!
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just in time for labor day, new polling shows an increasingly tight race between donald trump and vice president kamala harris across three national polls. the two are only one to five percentage points apart, and as we know from poland during the 2016-2020 cycles, a candidate holding a one to 3% advantage
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is far from a guaranteed victory. both harris and trump are ramping up campaign stops across the country starting this week. tuesday, the harris campaign sets out on a multistate bus tour, starting in donald trump's backyard in palm beach, near a mar-a-lago. as for trump, he is set to address the board of police in north carolina, and a short time ago, the campaign announced trump will hold what it calls an agenda policy tour thursday in milwaukee, wisconsin. there is an aspect of this contest, however, that we must dig into tonight. the reality is not lost on either campaign, the need to win black voters. latosha and brittany are back with me. harris and tim walz capped off their bus tour of southeastern georgia this week, making it a point to visit rural counties. biden narrowly won in 2020, of course. we remember the infamous phone call of 12,000 votes. how important was it for harris and tim walz to campaign in these rural counties which are often overlooked?
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>> i think it was a really good strategy for a couple reasons. one, i think the role counties, while those counties most of the time vote republican, what we can do is you can actually make the margin much smaller by doing -- performing better in those counties, that's what happened in the biden campaign. secondly, i think it is really interesting that the first place she stopped without a high school. she focused a lot on young women, rural people, and small businesses. i think that is a winning strategy. i think as long as the campaign continues to tap into that constituency based that oftentimes goes overlooked, or sometimes not touched because it campaigns normally focus on urban centers, i believe that is a wonderful strategy and a strategy that will help her win. >> britney, you brought up a really important point in the commercial break, it is not just enough to get out the votes, [ inaudible ] it was not only getting voters out, but getting voters out in large numbers to overcome the opponent and the suppression of
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their votes in some states like georgia and elsewhere. >> absolutely. so, one of the challenges of this is that we are relying on voters of color, young voters to over perform the margin that voter suppression is going to cause, and i am hoping that the democratic party is putting a lot of resources behind fighting voter suppression in all of these places, because that is also an indicator to voters that they will have an agenda around protecting the right to vote should they actually win office. i am really heartened by the number of young black women registering to vote, and i feel conflicted about that. i'm very proud of that as a black woman, i'm very proud of it as someone who grew up in a semi rural community in the deep south, but i also have a lot of chagrin about the fact that we always ask black voters, who often have less resources, who are often the target of voter suppression campaigns, to do the work of saving the democracy, so i am hoping other people will join him in the coalition. >> to that point, how important is it, latosha, to build on
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what britney was saying, i mean, trump himself appears to realize how important black voters are, particularly black women voters. and in a new video entitled i am not with her, more than a dozen black women express their opposition to harris and support for trumpet what do you make of that? no voting block is monolithic, of course, but this from trump feels a bit like he is pandering. >> oh, absolutely. i saw that commercial myself, and to be honest with you, it was unbelievable. when i looked at it, i was like, who produced this? but i do think, to britney's point, i think it is important for us to recognize that democracy is not a black problem, democracy is an american problem. and ultimately, we have to recognize what is at threat. i think young women are being activated because of what is happening around reproductive justice and right and around women having their agency. in the african american community, we are hearing the racist tropes that trump is using, directed towards vice
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president harris, and also what he aligns himself with white nationalists. that in itself is still not enough. if we really value black voters, we are going to have to invest in infrastructure to support black voters. the campaign is going to have to have messages that specifically speak to young people and young black women, making sure we are literally investing in organizations on the ground that are doing that work, and also making sure that we are showing up. i think the election, who gets the most votes on november 5th, but november 6, we could possibly have another fight, because he could try to steal the election. it just in georgia, two laws are passed this week about certifying the votes. i think there's going to be a fight post november 5th as well. >> latosha brings up an important point about how trump panders to black voters. but he has this kind of dichotomy. on the one hand, you can argue, he is saying out loud very racist things and he is
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campaigning in sundown towns all across the country and kind of like using a dog whistle to the white, racist, nationalist base of the party that he is trying to win over, then he panders to black voters with very racist stereotypes and tropes, whether it is sneakers and showing his mug shots, saying they're going to like me because i am a criminal now and being convicted and charged. he can't have it both ways, but he is somehow still using the racism card and tried to claim that he is winning black voters. >> is a person who referred to by rent is one of the good ones and said there are some of them who are not so good ones, which is only mildly coded language for what he thinks about black people. i am bothered by the way the disinformation campaigns have actually, you know, been somewhat effective in black communities. and part of the thing is that we have got to remember that the democratic party sometimes has not gone -- done a good job of messaging, so you have significant swaps of young
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black voters who think that stimulus checks came from trump because he had the pr idea to put his name on those checks, even though democratic congress has pushed for them and fought for them, and the democratic administrations extended those stimulus checks and provided families more money per child just as one example. you have democratic administrations that are providing more jobs, that are doing things about student loans, that are protecting health care, that are protecting women's rights, but you have black communities who feel like the party does not talk to them and explain things to them. and so, what trump does is he makes people feel seen, even though what he is making them feel seen with his lies. >> it is important that the democrats make sure they actually see black voters and not take them for granted. brittany cooper and latosha brown, really appreciate both of your insight. when we come back, there has been another deadly strike on an aid convoy in gaza. we examined the chilling effect it could have on getting life- saving supplies to those who need it the most, that is next. >> [ music ] ic ] that's why yoa
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on thursday, on thursday, an israeli air strike hit another aid convoy, killing palestinians. it was carrying food to the hospital. the israeli military claims that one of the truck had weapons and that the four people killed were armed. but they say that is not true. in a statement, they say initial reports from witnesses debunked the israeli military claims, saying no weapons were present, aid workers do not present a threat, and there was no warning before the attack. of course, this is one he -- of many attacks of aid convoys that we have covered on the show, they keep happening with aid convoys providing their exact coordinates midweek investigations by ezra have led nowhere, and no one has been held accountable for the deaths of 288 workers killed since the october 7th attacks on israel.
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joining us now are founder of anera, the international network for aid, relief, and assistance focused on helping children. she just returned from the gaza strip a few days ago. you have been able to get in and out in gaza. let's talk about what is happening for the eight workers that continue to risk their lives. how much information does the israeli military have about your organization and others for the purpose of avoiding these attacks? walk us through the logistical process that an organization like yours goes through in gaza. >> look, ayman, when we are talking about the kind of movements that the anera was trying to make, the ones that either need to cross the israeli checkpoints or go into an active combat zone, so anera was delivering to the hospital fuel and food. the israelis know everything. you submit prior to making the movement your vehicle, license
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plate, what you are carrying, the ideas of the individuals who are going to be a part of that convoy. you are then given a preliminary approval. prior to 8:00 a.m. the morning that you want to make your movement, you then get your final approval. you move to what is known as a holding point. once the israelis authorize you to move to the holding point. you wait at this holding point until the israelis give you the green light, and it is only when you get that green light do you then proceed along the route that has been previously designated to you by the israelis. that is the level of detail that gets communicated back and forth. and then in the span of less than 72 hours, we have this hit on the anera convoy, and just before that, you have the world food program the vehicle being shot at 10 times, right after they, too, that specific vehicle had been given the okay, the green light to go ahead,
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yes, move. as a convoy that i was in was driving out of gaza on a previously designated route, there was a tank around that was fired very close to us, then we sought a quad helicopter drop a small little bomb on i am not entirely sure what, because it was as the convoy was moving, but also within 20 to 30 meters of us. so, the conversation that happens among the aid community is what is going on here, is this some sort of a scare tactic? and yes, it is frightening, one has to admit that. it is very frightening to be inside of gaza. >> you paint a picture of what aid workers have to go through. they halted deliveries in gaza due to multiple attacks, even after the world central kitchen workers were killed, they had to pause their operations for some time. how disruptive, how damaging is news like this for palestinians that already don't have adequate access to food and medical supplies when organizations, even if it is brief, for a day or two or even
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for a few hours, have to disrupt their operations because of fear of coming under israeli attack? >> ayman, you know gaza and gazans very well, but they have been psychologically obliterated over the last 10 to 11 months. it is almost as if they are, to a certain degree, numb to what it is that they are going through, and you see it in their eyes. because if they were to actually confront everything that they have lost and everything that they have had to endure, they would crack open. one of the worst things, because gazans are very aware of the dynamics that we are all facing, is when you go to these camps or into the hospitals, and to you as an aid worker have to continuously apologize for not having what the population needs, and they are so gracious, because as you apologize for not having enough tents or not having hygiene products or not having soap, which is just so critical right
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now, people say to you, you know, it's okay, at least you are here, at least you're trying. but the thing is, ayman, it's not okay and that is not a bar that we need to accept, that this little, minute level of assistance we are able to provide to this population is somehow sufficient. and so, it is absolutely gutting. these gloves come to gazans from every single direction, every single aspect of life, every single aspect of their existence is constantly, relentlessly just being beaten down. >> you have been on the forefront in seeing how people in gaza, especially children there, are suffering and impacted by this war. i know this week, you were saying on social media and posting on social media about how soap is now one of the most needed things to prevent the outbreak of disease, which suggests it is not in supply there. but tell me a little bit about what you witnessed and the broader conditions and illnesses of what people in
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gaza are suffering as a result of this is really were. >> it is a bit absurd when you think about it, ayman, because we have been reduced to trying to sort of condense everything into this concept of a bar of soap. the product sees our advocacy efforts and pressure isn't working. we have been begging for more access, more safe routes, that is not working, so maybe we can focus it all on a bar of soap. while that may not seem all that important, if you look at it in the context of the way disease has been spreading across gaza, now with the re- emergence of polio, hygiene is vital to the population, but everything has been decimated on every single level. a single bar of soap, the ability to have soap can reduce communicable diseases, that includes polio. polio largely emerges and spreads because of a lack of hygiene. that includes a horrific skin disease, that includes hepatitis a that is killing at least two children per week and one hospital alone. gaza has nothing, ayman, nothing.
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>> thank you so much for joining us and for all the work that you and everyone else is doing on the ground, please stay safe, my friend. as global attention remains on gaza, israel has declared a full-fledged work just 30 miles away in the occupied west bank. we will tell you about that next. >> [ music ] ] (man 2) what's my next step? oh! ugh. (girl) dad. (vo) you break it. we take it. (woman 2) we can take it. (vo) trade in any phone, in any condition at verizon for the new google pixel 9 with gemini. (man 2) give me a recipe with these ingredients. (girl) let's do that one. (vo) only on verizon.
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years. this is footage of the aftermath of an israeli raid. is really foreign minister stated that the operation was part of a full-fledged war, and he compared it to what israel is doing in gaza. the palestinian health ministry there says 25 people have died since israel launched the raids this past wednesday. some important context here, the government and the body in the west bank is the palestinian authority, not hamas. they get diplomatic backing from the united states. it is also important to understand that the west bank is home to 3.3 million palestinians who have lived under israeli military occupation since 1967. it is also home to hundreds of thousands of jewish settlers who have long sought to prevent a palestinian state with the backing of the right-wing israeli government and military. today, i spoke with advocacy lead israeli human rights group, i started by asking about the news today of the depths of the six israeli hostages in gaza. >> these promises that we were
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clear about where lies from the start, that some sort of military pressure can actually bring back the israeli hostages, being exposed as what they are, essentially just more and more excuses to continue to delay the inevitable or what we think should be inevitable, which is a cease-fire. we called for a cease-fire months ago, at the end of last year. and now, we are being told that the only thing that could ever safeguard the security of us is released is if israel remains in the corridor separated the gaza strip from egypt. this is a new condition that the prime minister has brought in. it was not even on the agenda a few months ago. israel never started its war on gaza , with occupying the philadelphia corridor, it is blatantly an excuse that is aimed at finding more and more
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hindrances to hold hostages there, because of bringing back the israeli hostages home means also a cease-fire in gaza. we know that the israeli government currently and prime minister netanyahu do not want to end their constant war, and this is the big reason why they are trying to continue to stall this. and we are also seeing this absolutely horrific humanitarian disaster unfolding as we speak, even today, with the risk of a polio outbreak that hopefully it will be addressed. >> let me ask you, with all the attention being focused on gaza right now, there is of course what is taking place in the west bank that is extremely troubling and seems to be
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escalating. your organization put out a very troubling video this week from the hills, israeli settlers carrying clubs, approaching a palestinian family, sexually harassing a woman, and implicitly threatening sexual assault. let's watch this together. >> let's go, let's go right now. what do you want? >> i want to dance with you. >> i am not your [ inaudible ]. >> and you are not sweet, you are not so fresh, so sweet. >> [ inaudible ] >> the reference to the israeli prison where palestinians were allegedly sexually assaulted by israeli prison guards, it has caused a huge scandal in israel that is currently being investigated.
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but you see these accounts much more frequently than many of us in the west do. what means do palestinians have to defend themselves from these types of assaults, or what are the conditions that they are living under when they come face-to-face with israeli settlers like the one we just saw there? >> i think that [ inaudible ] pretty much the only thing that palestinians have left for them right now, and this sounds like a gross exaggeration, but it isn't, is the camera that they are using to document these incidents, because all branches of the israeli government, be it the army that is responsible to safeguard these palestinians, we know the army is not doing this, but it is their responsibility, and the israeli police that should theoretically protect palestinians living in these areas from violence by israeli settlers, are not only not doing their job, they're not only shirking their responsibility to defend these palestinians, but in many cases, we see again and again, soldiers and police officers
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actually participating in these settler attacks, and often enabling them. and this is not a new phenomenon, it didn't start with this current government. the government that is the most fanatical right-wing government we have ever had in our history, but it certainly has been turbocharged by the government, because any sort of violence and violent settlers throughout the west bank, who wishes to take over the very effective tool of using violence against them, knows they are not going to have to pay any price for it. there isn't going to be any sort of accountability. there is not going to be any sort of price or any sort of hindrance to the violence, and because it is ideologically motivated violence, and because it is very effective, it has led to the forcible transfer of palestinian communities, it is being done again and again. the only thing we have managed to do is be able to reflect what is going on on the ground through video of these
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incidents, and i think it is absolutely crucial to continue to report the situation. >> yeah, it is an increasingly worrying situation happening in the west bank, as israel continues with the settlement expansions, the violence against palestinians, the home demolitions. thank you so much for joining us this evening, i greatly appreciate your time and rinse rights. a new hour of ayman after the break . >> [ music ] ] deodorant... but not as you know it.
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