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start of the political season, but this year, it is safe to say it came a bit earlier. take a look at what has happened in the past few months. an assassination attempt against the former president, a change at the top of the ticket on the democratic side, it has been a lot. now, we don't know everything that will happen over the next two months. we do know some things about the state of the presidential race right now. a new poll to show harris taking the lead nationally, but far more important in my view is the one showing harris closing the gap with trump in the battleground states. it is all going to be won and a handful of states but and a different poll shows harris winning back young voters, they moved from supporting trump by 11 points to supporting harris by 15 points. latino voters have moved from supporting trump by two points to supporting harris by 16 points but and black voters and now support harris for 64 points, up from supporting

biden by 47 points. this is all good news, but it means is democratic and cleaning voters are coming home. that is a good sign for the harris-walz team. it is also important to remember the race remains close. and a lot is happening on the campaign trail, too. harris and tim walz wrapped up a bus tour, and she is holding an event with president biden tomorrow in pennsylvania. trump and vance also hosting events and battleground states. and harris and troubled debate in just over one week. while the trump's team and digital advertising may be targeted on immigration and crime and pretty closely targeted on that, we shouldn't ignore that, it appears that trump, vance, and the rest of their madoff crew are still struggling to land an effective line of attack against kamala harris. think of it this way, for weeks, they have seized on the fact that harris had yet to do a sitdown interview, saying she was hiding from the media,

unwilling to take questions, which also wasn't true at all. but this week, harris and tim walz sat down with cnn's dana bash to do just that. >> one, i am so proud to have served as vice president to joe biden, and two, i know proud to be running with tim walz for president of the united states, and to bring america what i believe the american people deserve, which is a new way forward, and turn the page on the last decade of what i believe has been contrary to where the spirit of our country really lies. >> the last decade, of course the last 3 1/2 years has been part of your administration. >> i'm talking about an era that started about a decade ago, where there is some suggestion, worked, i believe it to be, that the measure of the strength of a leader is based on who you beatdown. instead of where i believe most americans are, which is to

believe that the true measure of the strength of a leader is based on who you left off. that is what is at stake as much as any other detail that we could discuss in this election. >> that is just one click, we are going to show you a lot more clips, talk to some of my favorite political people, but just to give you a summary, physically harris and her running mate tim walz fielded questions on past positions, on foreign policy, on the border, and what they would do on day one, who they want in their cabinet. they talked about a lot of things in this interview. that should settle this question, right? everybody should be happy and move on to the other important debates of the day. of course not. instead of dropping it, the target has simply been shifted. now the attack isn't over whether or not harris did an interview, but over whether or not she did it right. many trump fans are apparently angry that this was a joint interview with harris and tim walz, they're outraged. first of all, it is extremely common for candidates to do joint interviews.

barack obama and joe biden, hillary clinton and tim kaine, or even donald trump himself. it is all even sillier when you compare these attacks with what trump has been up to this week. first of all, he was re- indicted on charges related to his effort to subvert the last presidential election. his campaign was rebuked by the u.s. army after an incident at arlington national cemetery earlier this week. he also reposted while the crude remarks about kamala harris on social media and shared dozens of other dark, derogatory, disturbing posts this week, posts that cover the jailing of people who have tried to hold him accountable, like special counsel jack smith and the lawmakers who investigated january 6th. and a.i. images of his perceived enemies in orange jumpsuits, and he went on conspiracy theories, just to name a few. that is kind of what is facing voters in just a few days. you can take issue with the logistics of a television interview, that can be the you want to die on, or you can take

issue with all of that. maria is the president and ceo of the vote latino. molly is a special correspondent for vanity fair. miller is a writer at large printable work. there are some of my favorite people to talk politics with and they all join me now. molly, i'm going to start with you. i want to play a bunch of parts of this interview because i think it is quite telling, especially with the comparison. let's plant what i'm going to tell you is my favorite part of the interview, and we will talk about it afterwards. >> what i want to ask you about is what you said last month. he suggested that you happened to turn black recently for political purposes, questioning a core part of your identity. >> same old tired playbook. next question, please. [ laughter ] >> that's it? >> that's it. >> i loved that. first of all, i loved how she said yeah, during the

interview, first of all. but it is interesting because there is a debate coming up in just a week, she is going to be attacked by donald trump molly, what did you make of that response or how to handle questions about these types of attacks? >> i thought that was the only way to respond to something like that, right? but why should she have to answer trump's a racist smear about her? i mean, that is a fundamental problem with a lot of these questions, is the goal of an interview, and i do a lot of interviews, you do a lot of interviews, i think about them a lot, the goal of an interview is to get information from the person. so, when she says donald trump says this racist slur about you and questions your identity, like okay. that's donald trump. it says more about donald trump than it does about her. my problem with this interview was that i thought that the harris-walz ticket did actually really well, but if you want

information from people, if you want policy, if you want to know what they would do, the way to do that is to ask real, substantive questions, and not just these sort of very republican framed talking points or to ask them to sort of defend themselves against things that aren't -- i mean, that was just an attack on her. it wasn't a question, there is no question there, she is who she is, and it is pretty offensive. so, that moment, i thought she dealt with that as well as anyone could deal with something like that, but imagine if someone asked me are you jewish? i am jewish, that's it. somebody says i'm not jewish, that's okay, but i am. >> look, i agree with you, that is exactly how she should have responded to that. what's interesting to me that she is going to have to deal with this more and more as she does more interviews, also in

direct attacks from trump himself. tim, you have prepped republican candidates for debates. what do you think of how she dealt with that and what else stuck out to you about that interview? >> yeah, i thought that answer was really great and charming. so, i think that was definitely a highlight, i concur with you on that, jen. look, these interviews are challenging, so this offer is less about the nitpick, but more about looking forward to the debate. she was having to introduce herself and having to answer for some of these things, so i thought she answered quite well, explaining her evolution on a range of policies and answering for some of the positions that she took in 2019 that are different from some of the position she is taking now. she seemed very well prepped for that and had to explain that, explained the rationale, and to build consensus. but in a lot of these answers, what you didn't see is what you do prepped candidates for in these interviews, which is you answer that and then you pivot

to why your opponent is terrible. and she didn't do as much of that. i think maybe that was strategic as a first interview, she is focused on her own record and introducing herself to people. and i think that, of the debate, is a big question. for one example, in that clip right before you played it, dana said you have never even met trump before, the debate will be the first time. it might've been interesting to remind dana why they have never met before. it was because the donald trump didn't show up to the peaceful transition of power, because he was pouting like a child and flying home to his house in mar- a-lago and his emotional support cougars, and he didn't actually show up. the first president in history not to show up to the transition of power, after the violent coup on the capital, that was why they never met. i think there is a lot of material to work with on trump, and going into the debate, you have got to refine answering your question, and then pivoting to but what about this guy. >> that is an interesting point. i do agree with you that i think strategically, she probably wanted to base her own

record and answer some of those questions, but the counterpunching is a key part of the debate. let's turn to where the race stands now, maria, because i listened to some of the interesting polling, i think it is democrats coming back home, when you look at latino voters, when you look at black voters, young voters, one of the things that jumped out to me is harris is leading low income voters 58 to 35%. you have been out there on the trail, what does that says to you either about the pole or what you are seeing out there right now coming into labor day and the path ahead? that's what i found really interesting was right before the convention, she was at 60%, independents were at seven, and trump was at 29. so, she is taking away not just from the independence, but she is taking from trump, and that was before the bomb. and this was a poll conducted with 2000 voters in battleground states, in georgia, north carolina, arizona, and nevada.

what we have seen since then is even more appetite for her, but she is talking to them in a way that makes sense. this year, we haven't covered it enough, but the fact that she is giving them a platform to say we are going to build more affordable housing, we are going to talk about rent controls all the way down the line, that is what we have found that young voters, black and latino, 18 to 29, housing is their number one issue. normally, we think housing is something you struggle with in your 30s and 40s, but the fact she is hitting them exactly where they are speaks to not only who she is, this idea that she is a woman of color, she has an immigrant experience, that she can talk to them in code, she is also translating it and beating them where they are with their bread-and-butter issues that are impacting them. >> such an interesting point. we have long talked about this presidential race and not being about policy issues between harris and trump. but there are some issues, she was talking about rural healthcare on this bus tour. you're talking about economic

issues that a lot of latino voters are responding to. how do you explain this kind of big swing among latino voters in this poll? >> so, what we found, again, when biden was on top of the ticket, not that people were going to the republican party, that we are more interested in a third party. they were aligned with the democratic issues, but they just felt they needed something fresh. and that biden, walt gray policy, they didn't know his policy. what we found was interesting, that's why her defining herself on this first interview last night was so important, was that people loved her, but they don't know who she is. so, she is a blank slate. that is the best thing for an opportunity for her, because unlike hillary who had 30 years of baggage because the right to find her, she has an opportunity to say this is what i stand for. and we haven't talked about it enough, but it also makes it harder for the far right and for foreign agents to define her on tiktok and on social media platforms, because she is speaking to them directly.

>> that is a key point. we have to sneak and a very quick break, everyone is staying with me. we will talk more about the interview, the politics of the moment, and what happens after the sprint after we take a quick break. also, we will show you a clip of trump talking about six-week abortion bans and we will talk about that, too. >> [ music ] eliable 5g business internet. and helps red bull revolutionize coverage of live events. this is how business goes further with t-mobile for business. the itch and rash of moderate to severe eczema disrupts my skin, night and day. despite treatment, it's still not under control. but now i have rinvoq. a once-daily pill that reduces the itch and helps clear the rash of eczema

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okay, ready for okay, ready for a story in three parts? part one, donald trump says a six-week abortion bans is too short. >> in florida, the state that you are a resident of, there is an abortion -related amendment on the ballot to overturn the six week ban in florida, how are you going to vote on that? >> i think six weeks is too short, it has to be more time. i have told him i want more weeks. >> so you will vote in favor of the amendment? >> i'm going to be voting that we need more than six weeks. >> which brings us to the

antiabortion movement completely freaking out about those comments, which then brings us to part three. >> so, i think six weeks, you need more time than six weeks, i disagree with that right from the early primaries when i heard about it, i disagree with it. at the same time, the democrats are radical, because the nine months is just a ridiculous situation. so, i will be voting no for that reason. >> amalia is back with me. molly, this was quite a couple of days, 24 hours. i mean, the most important story here, which i said, and you often remind us of, is that women in florida will continue to suffer if this ban is upheld, and in far too many states across the country, there are you suffering under restrictive abortion laws. but i wanted to ask you, as a political mother, the 180 here, it seems shameless, even by trump's standards, doesn't it? >> yeah, i mean, you have a really good point and i think

it is important to just lay this out -- [ inaudible ] he was going to appoint them because they would overturn roe v wade. so, we are in this mess because of trump, which i think is an important [ inaudible ] waiting to bleed out, bleeding out in parking lots because their doctors told them that they can't have an abortion because they have a heartbeat, even though this pregnancy is not viable. these are pregnancies that will never ever result in a living child. so, we got to this mess because of donald trump, but i think it is important to realize that the larger premise here is donald trump doesn't really believe in anything and will say anything. the point is now in this campaign where he is willing to

say anything to get elected. >> anything to get elected, but he is also willing to be manipulated by people who wanted him to name justices who are going to overturn roe v wade. let me ask. it's clear to your point, he is making a bet here, i think, a political bat, that his conservative base is basically telling him what to do. they got mad, he responded, he did this statement. it is not aligned with the majority of the american public, which just seems once again, like he does with legal issues, he is counting on his face to win in the election. >> yeah. look at, you sort of painted himself into a corner, but remember, trump is never good at growing the electorate and he hasn't been good at crying the electorate since 2016. he had a chance, remember that speech he gave when he was elected, that first speech, could have been i will be president for everyone, and

instead, it was like this scary thing that george w. bush was like that was something weird. so, i do think the man has never been interested in growing the electorate, he always just appeals to the base, and this base really cares about this issue, in fact. remember, we would not have gotten here if the space hadn't gone from overturning roe v wade to this idea of embryonic personhood, which is now why we are seeing a temporary ivf than in alabama, and we are going to see more of that, because the space has moved even further to the right after the repeal of roe v. wade. so you see, trump has really painted himself into a corner with abortion and he cannot make the base happy and still have a popular view on abortion. >> perfectly stated. i mean, the other side of the presidential run here, i mean, kamala harris said after this

in response to his statements, he is not done yet. if he gets back into office, the plan is to turn 26 abortion nationwide, with or without congress. this is interesting, because as you said, it is unclear if he has any moral compass on a lot of things, including this issue, but i think the strategy from the harris campaign is to continue to paint him, given this statement and others, as the most conservative on this issue. do you think that is the right way to go or should it be more flip-flop painting? >> no, i think that is right. we saw with the supreme court, the supreme court took two abortion cases this season, even though it was running up to an election and you could tell they had some anxiety about it. entering the oral arguments, you heard thomas and alito talk about the construct act and use it to ban the mailing of abortion pills, and that is the way they're going to ban abortion federally. so, i think we see the groundwork.

just like the supreme court this season really did lay the groundwork for trump to sort of do whatever he wants if he gets into office, and you heard them talking about it in the oral arguments. so, i think harris is right, and i think also, it happens to be true. not only is it politically correct, you know, politically useful for her, but it is also, really, i think very much where they are. >> yeah, no question who is going to continue to be pressured by the same group of people who are pressuring him now. molly, i always love hearing what's in your head and how you think about these issues, thank you so much for joining me, really appreciate it. coming up, jd vance is going after childless teachers and another resurfaced clip. and he even called out my next guest by a name. randi weingarten is standing by and she joins me next. >> [ music ]

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hardly a week hardly a week seems to go by that we don't learn something new about jd vance's weird obsession with childless women. i mean, he has disparaged them as cat ladies, he suggested they are sociopaths, he claims they have no stake in this country at all and says they shouldn't even have equal voting rights. if that wasn't insulting enough, another recently uncovered audio clip from 2021 has now revealed that jd vance things about teachers who don't have kids of their own. in it, he singled out randi weingarten, the president of largest teachers union that in the country, take a listen. >> so many of the leaders of the left, and i hate to be so personal about this, but they are people without kids, trying to rewatch the minds of our children. and that really disoriented me, and it really disturbs me. randi weingarten, who is the head of the most powerful

teachers union in the country, she doesn't have a single child. if she wants to bring and destroy the minds of children all at >> for the record, any parent who has kids who started school this week like i did knows that teachers are national treasures, whether they have kids or not, doesn't matter. for what it's worth, randi weingarten is also a stepmother of two. joining me now is randi weingarten, president of the american federation of teachers, it is great to see you. this is a pretty strange litmus test, i have to say, and it strikes me, this is what i kept thinking about, maybe he hasn't met any of his kids teachers, i really don't know, but you think jd vance has given any thought into what actually makes teachers good at their jobs? >> no. i mean, you know, i have been thinking about it all week, jen, because it was strange when he said it then, but the fact that he doubled down all week is even stranger, because he is running for vice president of the united states of america, and we have 50 million kids in

the united states, and they are our future, and whether you go to a public school or private school, this is the moment that parents and teachers and kids are all bonding together. like it is that moment of engagement, it is that moment of teachers trying to create a safe and welcoming environments. i mean, you know this with your own kids, we all have the jitters, we are all both anxious and excited about the school year. so, it was just a bizarre thing for him to double down on it now, because every parent and every teacher and every kid in august and september are thinking about the new year and what it means and that engagement. so, he must really be disconnected from life. i just -- and the only other thing i would say is this, i

don't care about myself. you know, i am used to this, i am a big girl. but what i care about is we really need to create these kinds of environments of engagement for kids, and this is the kind of bullying and divisiveness that i think kamala harris and tim walz are saying we've got to turn the page and we've got to actually look at what the promise of america is and our future, and have some joy and hope and togetherness in terms of going ahead in our future. >> it's such a good point. i think of my kids' teachers as part of the team, we are all in the team together, we are raising the next generation together. that's the vibe we are going for you. let me ask you on a more positive note, to your point, the harris-walz campaign, the most common of their donors is teachers and nurses, which i thought was so interesting. tim walz was a teacher himself, maybe that's part of it. positive vibes, maybe that is

part of it. what you think is spurring that? >> well, look, first off, we are the second-largest, we are now the second largest k-12 union, the largest higher ed union, and the second-largest nurse union, so i get to represent -- i have the best job in life, i get to represent all these folks who make a difference in the lives of others. but i think what you're seeing as these are caring professions, there also disproportionately female professions, and there also professions where, you know, there have been a political pinata's. nurses before covid, and now teachers in some ways after covid, they see people who are really trying to help us. you know, not only have the dignity of work, but really do the jobs we want to do, which is make a difference in the lives of kids and the lives of patients. >> obviously, jd vance has some strong opinions about people

who don't have kids, we have talked about that. i just want to take a look at some of his greatest hits, then we will talk about it. >> we are effectively run in this country via the democrats, via our corporate oligarchs, by a bunch of childless cat ladies. >> we think babies are good and we think babies are good because we are not sociopaths. part of the problem of american decline is people who believe that not having kids is a lifestyle brand. you go on twitter and almost always, the people who are most deranged and the psychotic are people who don't have kids at home. when you go to the polls in this country as a parent, you should have more power, you should have more of an ability to speak your voice and our democratic republic than people who don't have kids. >> i mean, i find all of that pretty invasive and weird. but how do you think voters, how do you think voters are going to take that all in, come november. >> so, let me just say this, there are a lot of people who

don't have kids that really wanted kids, so when they say that, it is pretty painful. and that is a whole other conversation that you and i could have for hours. but kids -- this is what i think is so kind of not just weird, but kind of really sad and gross about what he is doing. kids are our future. all of us should have responsibility for the next generation. that should be all of our responsibility. so, when he is trying to divide parents versus teachers or people who have kids versus not, it is that part of that division and that chaos and that anger that trump has done for the last eight years, and i'm going to say it again, that kamala harris and tim walz are saying let's turn the page, let's get to the america that we want to have, the america

that even ronald reagan talked about in terms of the beacon on the hill. let's actually think about our best days in front of us, and that means helping our kids. and all of us having responsibility for our kids, our parents, our neighbors, our communities. x sounds good to me. randi weingarten, thank you so much for joining me, i appreciate it >> thank you and happy labor day. that's happy labor day. you may have seen my next guest on the stage of the dnc last week, hammering home the importance of working-class voters this november. john russell, one of the breakout stars from the convention is standing by and he joins me next. >> [ music ] so am i. because i'm at risk for pneumococcal pneumonia. come on. i already got a pneumonia vaccine, but i'm asking about the added protection of prevnar 20®.

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now, now, trump, a billionaire, says that he will take on the elites, but that he promises handouts to big oil and he punches down at anyone with the guts to be different. but populism, populism that insists we are two different to get along is just divide and conquer by a different name. >> that was john russell, one of the breakout stars at this year's dnc. you have probably known about him for a while if you're on tiktok. whether it is his interviews with labor leaders like uaw president sean or educating people, john has been making waves as an activist and content creator for years. and americans on social media love him. not just because he is a dirt

bag journalist, that's his description, or a dive bar tender, but because he speaks to the party's base where they are. and ahead of this labor day, i thought he would be the perfect person to talk to, and john russell joins me now. it is great to meet you, i loved watching you at the convention, you did a great job. >> hey, jen, thanks for having me on, i'm just glad that i didn't have anything in my teeth or drink water furiously like a marco rubio did that one time. we successfully avoided that. >> that is really bringing us all back. let me ask you, you were one of the convention's first official creators. what was it like to be included in that and what has been the response since he returned home? >> well, it's pretty crazy, as you can imagine. it's one thing to make videos on the internet, it is another to walk out to 20,000+ people in the place where the chicago bulls play. but you know, i came there,

unfortunately we have been dealing with jd vance in appalachia for a long time and donald trump meet him and everybody else's problem, but i wanted to represent the region well and bring the stories that we know to that stage and to challenge political leaders to live up to some of the problems that we have here that are extended across the country. >> so, to your point, if people don't follow you on social media, they should, let me start there, but you have been following jd vance's career for a long time, and i f@hwanted to just lay what happened at a union event you addressed this week and we will talk about it on the other side. >> president trump and i are proud to be the most pro-worker republican ticket in history, and i want to talk about why we are fighting for working people, why we are going to the fight for unions. >> that was quite a response there, people could hear booing. what do you make, you are so familiar, will you educate people out there on workers

rights, what people are fighting for, what they are not, what do you make of jd vance trying to convince firefighters that he and trump are pro-worker? >> well, you saw the response from firefighters. jd vance doesn't pass the smell test for a lot of people. that is not to take away from any of his experience, you know, with the problems we have in appalachia and him growing up here, however briefly in the actual place, but you know, there is a certain response that you get when you leave the place that you grew up in and you go make a bunch of fancy friends, and all the people you surround yourself now with our part of the class, the ruling class, you know, tech overlords and ceos and a bunch of rich guys that jd vance rubs elbows with, he is with them now, and i think he is trying to have it both ways, and people know that that is just more of a fake populism that we see often from

donald trump. i tried to talk about that in the speech last thursday, that we are being offered this fake version of populism were donald trump and jd vance are trying to get us to point fingers across the table at each other rather than pointing up at the biggest corporations run by the richest people on earth, who are making life hard for the working class. so, i think that all came tonhríj-u-3oí he walked out there in front of firefighters, they know whose side he is on, and that is the question in front of us all today, which side are you one? >> no question about it. we don't have much time left, i could talk to you for a long time. i want to ask you, you're so good at breaking down issues. how would you advise kamala harris to picture record to union voters? >> well, i would say that working-class people want somebody that stands with them. we are in a time when unions are at record popularity, and

you know, in the biggest voting block, millennial's and gen z, we have exciting new leaders who are saying this is all different races, all different places, working people are standing up and fighting for themselves. they're looking for a party, a political home who is going to stand unequivocally with them. that is really the challenge i wanted to bring to the democrats, and i tried to tie that back to appalachia, a place where the largest labor uprising in the united states happened in the coalfields 100 years ago, black and white minors who tied red bandannas around their neck as they fought and died for their labor rights, so we want a political home for that and that is my challenge for the party to live up to. >> a good challenge, john russell, thank you so much for joining me, happy labor day. coming up, the paralympic games kicked off in paris this week and i had the privilege of sitting down with two team usa stars ahead of their big events. we will show you that coming up

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okay, this week marked the start of the paralympics in paris, and just prior to the

start of this year's games, i got the chance to speak with two incredible paralympian's from team usa. a four time a gold medal winner mckenzie coan, and prolific olympian oksana masters, who has won metals in multiple events in both winter and summer games, and who this week was part of the torch relay to kick off this year's paralympic games. here's my conversation with mackenzie and oksana. mackenzie and oksana, thank you so much for taking the time, you're both very busy, so i appreciate you making the time for me. mackenzie, i want to start with you, i was a mediocre college swimmer, i think it is safe to say. if you are not a mediocre swimmer, you are an elite athlete but you have been swimming, though, practically your entire life, and you began aqua therapy when you are just four years old, and now you are in multiple gold wedding olympian. you have some metals here. this is very cool. >> so amazing. and so, you have now won

multiple olympic medals. when people think that, they think maybe you just came out of the womb and you are an olympic swimmer. >> what was your journey like, you started at four and aqua therapy, what happened from there? >> i certainly wish i came out of the womb right at it, but my journey was a really long one to get here. i was born with a condition and i was diagnosed with it officially at 19 days old, and my parents told me all the things i would never do, never sit, talk, walk, stand, i wouldn't even hold my head up, let alone if i lived to see the rest of my life. so, my parents, i was really blessed with them, they said we are going to do everything we possibly can to live a happy and full life. so, we went from there to my first physical therapy appointment. four years later, they said let's get her in aqua therapy

and it kind of took on a life of its own, really. >> did you know that you loved swimming immediately? >> oh, yes, i took to the water and i am equally felt at home, which is something that i never truly felt on land. it was like i was meant to be in the water, the water was a safe place for me, i was free to move around, i didn't have to worry about breaking bones the way that i did on land, and to this day, that same feeling i got when i got in the water for the first time, i still get when i die then. >> oksana, you have won medals in multiple events. reading about you and the number of sports, rowing, cross-country skiing, road cycling, and the biathlon, that's a lot. you also have an incredible personal story of how you got here, but i don't think you would have necessarily pictured as a little kid that this is where you would be, so tell me a little bit about that. >> i came to america when i was eight, i lived in ukraine in

multiple different orphanages before i was adopted. and the last orphanage is the one that i really remember. i didn't even know i was disabled, i just knew no one loved me and i didn't have a mom, i didn't have a family. it wasn't until i got to america where i really learned, oh, i am different, i'm disabled and that is a bad thing. and you know, my mom adopted me and i say that there are three things that saved my life. she adopted me from ukraine -- she saved my life when she adopted me because i was considered a failure to thrive. i was 36 inches tall and weighed 38 pounds, which is a healthy three-year-old. and kind of like for you, too, you were given a very low latex captaincy. they told my mom, she is not expected to live much past 10 years old, there is not a lot of light for her. she saved my life that way. sport, for me, was the other thing that really saved my

life. she opened that door for me, but kind of like water, not in the water, because i don't know how you guys swim, i love the water, but on top of the water, rowing. [ inaudible ] but yeah, it was just the same thing, when i got into sports and on that rowing boat and pushed away, leaving with one prosthetic leg, i felt like i finally belonged summer. i grew up my whole entire life not knowing where i belonged, knowing i was rejected and not wanted in this world by my own family, at that. it felt like home, it finally was the path to gaining confidence and strength and seeing what was possible. x you are both deeply competitive people. i have heard this, i see this. there are definitely, mackenzie, highs and lows in sports. you have some paralympic metals there. you probably have not won every race you have ever swum.

so, how do you navigate loss and disappointment? >> i have dealt with a condition that is a very difficult and unpredictable. it causes fragile bones -- [ inaudible ] >> democracy 2024 in >> democracy 2024 in brooklyn coming up this saturday, september 7th. for now, stay right where you are because there is much more

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