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castle." you can get access to the first two episodes right now if you subscribe to msnbc premium on apple podcasts. do not miss a second of the reading as resistance with me. thank you. that does it for me. catch me back here tomorrow morning from 10:00 a.m. to noon eastern. do not forget, velshi itself is available. plus, you can always find our velshi content available on youtube. marissa picks things up on the katie thing show which starts right now. i am or summary in for katie phang, and here is the week that was. >> i will talk about like nine different things and they all come back brilliantly together. >> let me ask you. are you ready to fight?
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are you ready to win? are you ready to elect kamala harris, our next president of the united states? >> mr. president, do you think it is time for prime minister netanyahu to do more? you think he is doing enough? >> no. >> he was not perfect, but he was the perfect son for me. and i am so grateful for god. >> the deadly mass shooting at a georgia high school. the deadly mass shooting killing four students and two teachers. >> we have to end this epidemic of gun violence in our country once and for all. it does not have to be this way. >> not only will i not be voting for donald trump but i will be voting for kamala harris. >> hunter biden stuns the special counsel. has last-minute offer to change his plea just as jury selection was about to start in his tax case. >> he did not put out a single
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witness in the civil case. >> a slew of new legal developments this week for trump's legal calendar. yesterday judge mershon issued a ruling dealing the sentencing in the new york hush money case until november 26th, pushing sentencing well beyond election day. " this is not a decision that this court makes lately, but it is a decision which in this court's you best advances the interests of justice." adding that," this matter is one that stands alone in a unique place in this nation's history." meanwhile, in the federal election interference case, judge tonya velshi banned book club is keeping donald trump's team busy regarding the question of the former president's immunity. as it stands now, special counsel jack smith will submit his opening brief on september
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26th, with trump's legal team expected to file a response on october 17th. and smith will follow with a required brief on october 29th. however, there remains an open question as to whether or not judge chet can can redact the evidence that as indicated in his opening brief. joined me now to discuss all these developments is barbara mcquaid. cohost of the sisters podcast and author of the new york times best-selling "attack from within: how disinformation is sabotaging america." first up, barb, we know that delays in sentencing are routine in criminal cases, but this is no routine matter. how routine is something like this for a situation where the stakes are as high as sentencing a former president?
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>> well, as the judge said in his opinion, this is a case of first impression. never before has a judgment looking to impose a sentence on not only a former president, but a candidate for that office. and he said he did not make this decision likely because i think it is important to not send a message that donald trump is above the law or someone with that power is above that law and there is a risk that decision does convey that message, but he did go out of his way to say what he wanted to do is honor the verdict of the jurors who found donald trump guilty of 34 counts. and that verdict deserve to be free from distraction or distortion. if you think about it, donald trump will be talking about being a victim and a martyr and other things. if you sentence to something like probation, he will proclaim this is much to do about nothing. rather than have this be
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overshadowed by the election, he decided to put it aside and focus solely on this case which he can do freely after the election. >> well, that will allow this to be dealt with after the election but there is still the question of the january 6 interference case. the judge has ruled there will be a series of different hearings and jack smith has indicated in his opening brief that he has never before seen evidence that will appear in this brief. does judge chutkan have anything going into this case? >> i do not think she has any legal obligation and she is keeping her options open because she was to see what that is before she makes a decision. so she will look at the evidence. it may simply be in the same character but with different sources that we have already seen publicly in the january 6th series. maybe now we have evidence that came off of cell phones and text messages and the like.
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i think it is unlikely that it would be sealed. it is likely something very prejudicial that is somehow salacious. i think that is the kind of thing she might be reserving judgment for not to smear donald trump on the eve of the election. >> in that hearing last week and in judge chutkan's courtroom, there was a really stunning moment for trump's legal counsel noted they would be challenging the appointment of jack smith a special counsel and they noted they were directed to do it by justice clarence thomas, and of course i think they were referring to justice thomas's occurrence in the case with the authority is special councils. what you make of this idea of a sitting supreme court justice essentially acting as a kind of shadow defense counsel here? >> yes. what a load of nonsense, and
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judge chutkan was certainly not having any of it . the appointment of a special councils perfectly lawful. you know that before you file the sema the sema motion? in the opinion by clarence thomas really did come out of nowhere. an issue that had not been raised by either party and had not been briefed. and of course we saw judge aileen cannon latch onto it in her decision in florida, so it seems inappropriate for me for a supreme court justice to be telegraphing to the world how he might rule on some issue that is not before the court but judge chutkan to her credit was not taking the update. >> that is not all we heard from judge thomas this week. there is new propublica reporting that suggests his wife ginni privately praised religious right groups. you guys have filled the sales of many judges.
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can i just tell you, thank you so, so, so much. what you make of this? is ginni thomas single-handedly making the case why ethics reform is so desperately needed at the high court today? >> yes. and, you know, ginni thomas as a spouse of a justise is certainly entitled for her own views and the right to free expression but this goes right to the very heart of the work that justice clarence thomas does and the things we have learned about him and his own ethical lapses. soap to me, it is incredibly inappropriate that she is weighing in on this and makes the case of why we need the enforcement of ethics. what possible reason could there be to fight for ethics in the judiciary? and this, i think, needs to be touted more than it has and i am glad you are raising it because this to me makes the case as to why we need an forcible judicial ethics with teeth as suggested by justice
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elena kagan. >> let us go back to trump really quickly. there was another trump hearing. in that hearing yesterday, trump's lawyers argued to overturn the $5 million judgment in the first e. jean carroll case do to the testimony of two other women who claim that trump sexually mistreated them. is it likely the verdict would be overturned based on evidentiary issues? >> you know, rules of evidence are a thing that can be litigated. it can be a basis for overturning the verdict, but i don't think so and here is my. rule 404b says that other acts that are similar in nature may be admissible not to show that a person has a propensity to commit this particular crime but to show certain things, one of them being modus operandi, and that is what the government argued here, what the plaintiffs argued here. the appropriate use in this case.
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then so i think they are looking to the harvey weinstein case as an example where the verdict was overturned, but in that case they used scores and scores of other issues to show that harvey weinstein was a sexual predator. here they had two. this is how i do it. this is how i roll. i attack women when they are not ready. in this case, it meets the scope of the rule. >> robert mcclain, we have covered so much ground. >> still to come on the katie thing show, working ceaselessly. a lab report from tel aviv unworthy israel hamas cease- fire negotiations stands and where the joint statement from the usa and uk's tops by chief are calling for peace in the middle east. but, first, the debate is on. looking to next week's first debate between vice president harris and former president
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>> the clock is ticking. we are 59 days away from election day and three days away from the first time that vice president harris and donald trump will face-off in a presidential debate. both hit the campaign trail this week. the press gave us a preview of the points they will hit on. >> he plans to give billionaires massive tax cuts and to cut corporate taxes by over $1 trillion, even as they pull in record profits. and that is on top of the $2 trillion tax cut. we know how to count. we know how to count. >> for four straight years i fought for american workers like i would fight for my own
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family. i took care of our economy like i would take care of my own company. >> just a reminder, trump's company has filed for bankruptcy six times. another $55 million plus interest and penalty fees due to a civil fraud case and he and his sons are actually barred from doing business in the state of new york for three years. just some clarifying context. joining me is simone sanders townsend, cohost of "the weekend." simone, we know that debates can have consequences. >> they matter. >> yeah. they do matter. you think it will move the needle? >> if they say it does not matter and it will not move the needle, poppycock. a month and a half ago joe biden was the democratic nominee and one could argue that that debate performance we would be talking about that biden-harris campaign and not
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the harris-walz campaign. i was a part of her debate prep team in 2020 when she did the vice presidential debate between she and then-vice president mike pence. she props like she would prep for a court case. she is a prosecutor. i think she carries that style over to when she was the united states senator. she prep for those hearings and brought that into definitely the campaign apparatus and into the white house. so it is a process where, yes, this is what we believe. looking and how are we going to speak directly to the american people. this is a debate very different than the last time she was on a presidential debate stage. 101. she and donald trump. and there is no audience. sometimes in the debates you say something in the audience gives you a reaction and the candidates beat off of that.
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this is not an option. this is about speaking directly to the people at home. and she is very good at doing that but you are going to be standing next to a person who is not well -- well -- well at speaking about policy in depth. >> the last time donald trump was on the debate stage with a woman there was a lot of talk about "stocking." >> he was. >> how will he approach dealing with this woman on the stage as a new opponent and how will she respond to what in some cases can feel like intimidation from this candidate? >> well, i am quite positive that the advisers to donald trump have talked to him about leaving the podium. they want him to talk about policy. he would rather attack the vice president on her looks or her gender, her name.
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right? he is not talking about policy and when he does it is quite jumbled. i think the vice president debate team has to be quite prepared for that moment or multiple moments when in fact he approaches upon her space or says something derogatory. mumbles under his breath. i believe that they want this conflict because it will demonstrate a very stark contrast for the american people. donald trump was acting like a bully. a child. attempting to intimidate the vice presidents of america. if i were viadvising the vice president, and this is happening in pittsburgh and apparently it is going well the streets inside tell me. >> if he approaches you, it is a "now, donald." like in the club. >> no, donald, may you please backup so i may finish
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answering the question." this comes after some very surprising endorsements. liz cheney has come out and said not only is she not voting for donald trump as she is voting for kamala harris and on the heels of that endorsement came an endorsement from liz cheney's father, the former vice president, cheney, who said that he too is going to be voting for kamala harris. are these endorsements going to move the needle for swing voters? republicans who are maybe waffling on the question of donald trump? >> 20 years ago, 15 years ago, what you have thought it? both of the cheney's? not only are they saying they are not going to vote for donald trump. quite frankly that is very well within the view of many republicans who did not like what he is selling. i encourage them if they do not like what he is selling do not vote for him. but it is another thing to come out and say we are voting for vice president kamala harris. we do not agree on policy but she has been a candidate for our country and for democracy.
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there are a lot of republicans who are looking for the permission structure. there are republicans who are looking for that permission structure who unlike democrats have never had to hold their nose. i think donald trump was the first time were they have to hold their nose and vote for something. democrats have had to do that every single election in city council races all the way up to the presidency. >> donald trump has appealed to black male voters and now it appears he is going after black women. you think this will likely be a winning strategy for him? >> i saw one of the videos that donald trump put out and there were multiple black women reading from a script. i featured one woman in a headscarf. i like my headscarf as well as anyone else but i would never tell you to put that in a video. we have been traveling across the country talking to black
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women from the cities and the suburbs and everywhere in between. and black women voters are going to be critical in the selection. they voted 90% for joe biden and kamala harris. the auction before that, 92%. they do not have a track record of voting for the republican candidate but the margins matter here. so donald trump, again, is like i need to see what i can do. and black women voters, just like the other voters, they like policy. >> again, simone and i hit the trail on a summer girl's trip and you can cut the results of that on september 29th at 9:00 p.m. on msnbc with our special black women and america: the road to 2024. you can catch it there and it is absolutely fantastic. >> i would only stay late at work for you.
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>> thank you. and now a special programming note. this tuesday, racial meta and the team will lead special coverage of the debate between vice president kamala harris and president trump's first presidential debate hosted by abc news. catch it at 7:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. and when you return, accountability. new charges from both a 14-year- old suspected shooter and his father in the horrific high school shooting this weekend. can holding parents legally responsible for their parents tht gun crimes help? that is up next. keep it right here on msnbc. ms.
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felony murder and could be facing life in prison and his father 54-year-old colin gray faces 14 charges, including four counts of involuntary manslaughter, two counts of second-degree murder, and eight counts of cruelty to children. it is not typical for prosecutors to charge parents for the actions of their children. this unorthodox decision comes as two law enforcement officials familiar with the investigation told that gray gave his son a ar 15-style rifle as a gift. here is dr. annie andrews the founder of their future, our vote, and senior adviser of our town usa. the charges against mr. gray argue were james and jennifer crumley were sentenced for 15 years for involuntary manslaughter after their son carried out the oxford high school shooting that killed four students. is this a strong legal strategy that effectively sends a message to parents or are we simply prosecuting parents when in fact what we really need is meaningful gun safety laws?
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>> we need both. this is a case of extreme recklessness, as you just said. this father but his young teenage son a weapon of war for christmas present after he had been investigated for threatening to perform a school shooting. but we need to recognize that we need accountability at all levels. georgia lawmakers have also failed this school, this community, and the state of georgia by continuously putting the needs of the gun industry about the needs of protecting our children. it is always an adult gun owner's responsibility to prevent children from accessing firearms, and it is important to understand that three out of four times that guns show up on school grounds that gun comes from the home of the shooter or the shooter's relative. so adult gun owners must be responsible for preventing child access. >> to that point, it has been
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revealed in this case that the fbi actually investigated the 14-year-old suspect last year for making threats to carry out a shooting. are the authorities at fault here? could they have done more to monitor his activity and even prevent this tragedy from happening? >> again, we need accountability at all levels. we are still learning the facts of this case, and this is an extreme case of recklessness. but we need to focus on the root cause of violence and recognize that america has gun violence as a public health crisis because we are a nation who has allowed the gun lobby to write our gun laws for decades. we know what the solutions to this public crisis are. common sense gun laws that the majority of americans are. red flag laws to remove guns from the homes of someone temporarily who has been deemed to be in imminent danger for themselves. like the home of a 14-year-old who has already threatened a
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school shooting. we need universal background checks. what we lack is the moral fortitude to put the safety of our communities above the special interests of the gun lobby. that is why in less than 60 days we need to do everything in our power to elect gun sense champions like kamala harris and tim walz. >> you mentioned we were in the throes of an epidemic of gun violence in this country and some of our youth said this is in part a mental health crisis. you suggested it is mental health as well as the availability of guns which comes from waxed gun laws. and one of the reasons we have such waxed gun losses because the united states supreme court has actually facilitated that with an unprecedented view of the second amendment. what more can be done to prevent gun violence, and what is every town doing to try to stop some of the gun violence that is happening now and to
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make this a safer place for our students? >> organizations like every town and their future are working every day. it is important to understand that youth in countries all across this world are suffering from a crisis. the difference in america is that we have ready access to firearms because the nra and guns everywhere for everyone agenda. everyone is working every day to elect leaders who will pass common sense gun laws because until we do that and pass universal background checks, secure storage laws, red flag laws, we will continue to wake up in this uniquely american nightmare and cds headlines. this is a public health crisis that not only affects children who are in the school building when shootings happen but it affects the entire community and frankly it affects all 73 million children in this community and we have to get serious about electing leaders who care more about our kids than they care about the gun industry. >> annie, we are not sure when the students at apalachee high
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school laura but based on your own expertise, how would you advise the adults in their community help them transition back after this traumatic event? >> a really unfortunate question to even have to consider. behalf to have developmentally appropriate conversations with our own children, and as teachers and school staff with the children in our communities we have to recognize that their fears and anxiety is valid. we have to look for warning signs such as lack of attention or sleeplessness that these events are directly affecting our children but frankly we do not know the answer because the depth and breath of the psychological damage this public health crisis is doing to america's youth is immeasurable. we don't know how this is affecting our youth and i do not envy at all the school staff who have to understand how to navigate. even down here in south carolina, my own children are
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struggling with this. my children have been robbed of a sense of physical and psychological safety in the classrooms, which is where they should feel the most safe. >> dr. annie, thank you for those words and advice. >> thank you. next, delete this for a push for a cease-fire and released deal in gaza. they are working ceaselessly for an agreement. we will take you live to tel aviv after the break. break. heartbur n acid prevention with just one pill a day. choose acid prevention. choose nexium. getting older is part of the journey, even with worsening heart failure. so when i had carpal tunnel syndrome, lower back pain, and shortness of breath, i thought that's what getting older felt like. thank goodness... ...i called my cardiologist. i have attr-cm, a rare but serious disease... ...and getting diagnosed early...
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a test or approve a medication. we didn't have to worry about any of those things thanks to the donations. and our family is forever grateful because it's completely changed our lives. turning now to the war in israel. it all comes as anthony or state secretary blinken says the united states is set to present a "take it or leave it" cease-fire proposal to israel
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and hamas in the coming days. joining me now is nbc news foreign correspondent matt bradley. matt, what do we know about the turkish american woman who was killed in the west bank? >> reporter: as you mentioned, she was born in turkey. she just graduated from the university of washington. she had only been here for a couple days when she was gunned down by what eyewitnesses said was the idf. we heard from an activist who was with her at the time. and, you know, he said that with the idf has been sang our allies. you know? the idf came out with a statement saying that some of these people have been throwing rocks at soldiers and that they returned fire and they were only hitting the people who were the main instigators, and this activist told me -- he was and is really -- there were rocks that were being thrown but the whole protest had been thrown for about the past 30 minutes and deliberately murdered with what he called a kill shot.
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so, now, we are hearing from her family members. this 26 old activist within the united states. they want the united states to do an investigation. they are gathering more information. it sounds more like they're waiting to hear more from the idf, the israelis. they said they are aware of reports that a foreign national had been killed and this is all under investigation, but it looks as if the family wants to see an independent investigation by american authorities. not by the israelis. melissa? >> thank you so much, matt. joined me now, a former spokesman and the lebanon director. watts is going on in gaza right now. the take it or leave it proposal. this is essentially an ultimatum. is this the right approach when trying to get both israel and hamas to come together to reach
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a cease-fire deal? >> well, at this point, the biden administration has been put into a very difficult position since they have been negotiating since may. by the way, both parties had accepted in principle that they had just been negotiating those tiny details until this point in the white house says and cia director bill burns says it is that last 10% that has been the sticking point and that is pretty difficult for negotiations but i do not believe the comment that the u.s. when they say take it or leave it is trying to increase pressure as much as they can on both sides. but i do not believe that the u.s. is completely ready to step back because we have four american hostages who are believed to be alive in gaza held by hamas right now. and it is in our national security interest as well to achieve peace in the region. >> you mentioned sticking point in these negotiations. one major sticking point has been the philadelphia corridor.
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prime minister benjamin netanyahu claims it is critical that idf soldiers are being deployed there. is this going to be an issue that is un-reconcilable for israel and hamas? >> it might end up being one of the major points that these are unjust negotiations, because as you said, netanyahu, even after the six hostages were killed last weekend, netanyahu has suggested they take control. now, listen, as someone who works on counterterrorism in the u.s. government, i am not surprised about the insistence over control of the corridor. it is absolutely how hamas is one of the largest ways that hamas arms itself and gets money, fuel, and you name it. however, the cease-fire proposal that both sides agreed to back in may proposed by the
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biden administration says that israel would eventually fully withdraw from gaza a and a third party would maintain control over that area. and netanyahu is saying, no. israel has to maintain control. even israel's on defense minister does not agree with the insistence on that position at this point in time because he believes that releasing the hostages at this point is a priority. to this point, netanyahu has not placed on it and his far right cabinet members are unlikely to budge on it. >> the fact there is no movement on this and the fact of the six hostages' deaths last week has sparked protests throughout israel thro the last week, have these protests escalated the violence or are they putting necessary pressure on the netanyahu administration to reach a deal? >> they are certainly releasing pressure on netanyahu and he has proven he is able to bend to the public pressure. a poll shows that israeli citizens want a cease-fire, although a significant portion
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also want the israeli government to defeat hamas but i am a firm believer that is achievable and i think most israelis believe that is achievable as well. netanyahu bent to the public pressure and delayed those additional moves. so there is a chance here but the sticking point here is if netanyahu agrees to a deal, his far right cabinet ministers could collapse his government and lead to elections and netanyahu assured to not win those elections and he may face corruption charges and netanyahu is playing that out in his mind. ft agrees to a cease-fire deal, it may lead to his own personal demise. and the biden administration is very aware of that. they are calling on the administration to make a unilateral degree and the biden administration is considering it, but it is unlike to pursue that. >> we know the department of
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justice has charged israel with terrorism. excuse me. hamas leaders with terrorism in the october 7th attack. is that likely to move the needle or move the biden administration to take further action here? >> no. it is not really likely to move the needle. it is not a nonimportant move. especially in the united states you still have protesters. i do not mean the majority of protesters. but you have protesters leaving hamas flags. so it is important for the united states to very clearly placed blame and highlight who is to be accountable here and to note who the bad guys are. so i do think there is value in that and you never know what happens. then you have the current leader of hamas and it is extremely brutal and murderous and it is in fact you never know if there's some retribution to have if there's some kind of engagement or deal with the israelis on that but
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it is far-fetched. it is not going to be -- i don't expect to see the leaders listed in that indictment that three out of six of whom are dead -- i just do not see that in u.s. jails. >> hagar chemali, thank you so much for those insights. coming up, dropping a dollar. it wants to replace the united states dollar. why that would be actually catastrophic for the u.s. and the corporate economy. that is up next. next.
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we have heard a lot about project 2025. the authoritarian blueprint for the second trump administration, if that happens. but one project 2025 proposal that has not received a lot of attention is the plan's calls for abolishing the federal reserve and creating a system
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of "free banking." think "and crypto replacing the u.s. dollar. what could go wrong? and while donald trump claims to know nothing about project 2025, we think he doth protest too much. here he is giving the keynote at a decline conference. >> on day one i will fire gary and appoint a new s.e.c. chair. i will immediately appoint a bit coin and crypto presidential advisory council. next, i will immediately order the treasury department and other federal agencies to cease and desist all steps necessary because there is a thing going on in their industry. they want to move the creation of the central bank digital currency. it is over. forget it. >> it is over. forget it. joined me now to discuss all of this is leah littman, my cohost
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on the podcast and a professor at the university of michigan law school. abolishing the fed. deregulating the american federal system. this is all a massive under taking and although republicans have long favored deregulation all this seems entirely different and entirely unprecedented. first, as president, would donald trump actually have the authority to restructure the financial system in the way it is proposed in 2025. >> well, it depends whether republicans also gained control of the senate and the house because if they do it is possible they could pass a statute at the federal reserve board now has no role in monetary policy. if they were to do that and you could see people like donald trump printing donald trump box and elon musk printing musk bucks. and those are what you have to use on twitter or amazon or a variety of commercial transactions and that is just
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a recipe for commercial ruin because it fragments the economy and destabilizes the economy. they are ignoring all the hard learned financial lessons of the last century when they call for anyone anywhere to be able to print their own money and do whatever they like. >> and it is not just printing new money or replacing it with cryptocurrency. they are talking about completely restructuring the role that the federal reserve board plays in regulating the american economy. what do they have in mind? >> so they purport to do a few different things. one. they say they would no longer have the federal reserve board attempt to set monetary policy with the goal of full employment because they do not really think that people need jobs. they also say the federal reserve board would not have control over interest rates. this is something donald trump said he would like to have greater control over. this is the man who repeatedly has gone bankrupt. he wants to set the fiscal and
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economic policy of the united states. they also say the federal reserve board should not be the lender of last resort. that is the institution should no longer have the capability to bail out large businesses or institutions that are about to fail, and, again, all of those things are adding up to just catastrophic economic consequences where if anything goes wrong in the economy the fed is not there to right the ship or ward off the next recession or depression. >> now, obviously all of this is dependent on donald trump becoming president in 2024, but it is also having an effect on the markets. countries are moving away from u.s. dollar and the sanctions that are promised in project 2045 and a consequence of that would not actually help the situation. what essentially are the dangers for the american project of trump and project 2025 are successful in restructuring the financial system in this way? >> i mean, it would be
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difficult to catalog them in a short segment. if the rest of the global economy starts to move away from the u.s. dollar because they are concerned that the u.s. dollar is about to be replaced by bit coin or trump bucks and it may make it harder for the average consumer to buy products on a day-to-day basis. so if you are worried about groceries or gasoline right now, that could just get harder and harder, and that to be on the horizon if they actually win control of the presidency and start to poke the bear that is the fed. >> trump not only proposes deregulating the system but he seems that he may actually be in a position to profit from it. recently his sons donald jr. and eric launched a new crypto startup. what a coincidence. it is not unusual for the trumps to have conflicts of interest, but this seems particularly egregious and maybe even a little illegal.
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>> i think it is extremely concerning that the president of the united states could be in a position to say now everyone can print money and i the president will now be printing money so you american people should be buying my currency rather than the u.s. dollar. that has all sorts of potential for corruption and abuse, not to mention economic catastrophe. >> we have talked a lot about project 2025 on the podcast and lots of people are talking about the threats to her abortion access abortion access and contraception. what about financial deregulation given how important a stable market and economy is to the united states? >> so, first, i cannot believe how crazy it was when i looked at it and i think it is framed in technical terms so people may not understand the consequences of what they are describing. >> well, leah, thank you for all that information.
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welcome to all of you. welcome to alex witt reports. we begin with decision 2024. 59 days until election day . the first presidential debate now just three days away. the candidates are out on the trail. vice president kamala harris is in pennsylvania. governor tim walz will be there later on. former president donald trump will speak in wisconsin at a rally in the swing state. he is expected to arrive any time now. and, some new reaction today to a court order delay in absentee ballots in north carolina following a lawsuit by rfk jr. fighting to remove his name from the ballot. >> a republican court of appeals actually overturned a decision from a lower court that made it so that we are having to halt the ball

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