>> good evening and welcome to politics nation, tonight's lead, prep work. prep work. >> right now, vice president, harris is in pittsburgh where she took a break from debate preparations this afternoon to greet some voters at a local spice store. things are bound to get heated between her and former president donald trump when they square off on tuesday in

philadelphia. trump is getting ready for the main event, the only way he knows how, repeating some of his favorite lies and insults before an adoring crowd at a rally in central wisconsin, that just wrapped up under an hour ago. this week the former president will work his way out of facing justice when sentencing in his manhattan hush money case was pushed back until late november. it now appears none of the former presidents criminal proceedings will be resolved until after election day. that leads it to vp harris to press the case against trump with the american people as jury. joining me now, the senior adviser to the harris-tim walz campaign, think of joining us tonight, vice president harris is in pittsburgh for the next

three days as she prepares for her first debate against former president trump in philadelphia on tuesday. she answered some reporters questions outside the spice store in pittsburgh earlier today where she also talked to voters. what are you looking for on tuesday night?>> reporter: well, it's great to be with you, i think, as somebody who has been so proud to be working as the vice president, and obviously before that when she was vice president, i'm looking to see the contrast she's going to make with donald trump, she's going to show the american people what is at stake in this election and what is on the line, she's going to focus on project 2025, the dangerous policies that are contained in that blueprint for what donald trump clearly wants to make the blueprint into law, which virtually gives him unchecked power, he would sack the doj with schedule political appointees who support his

agenda, who want to give him all kinds of power that we have never seen in a president before. he wants to eliminate the department of education which would completely got the education system, he wants to get more supreme court conservative justices on the supreme court. he wants to enact the national abortion ban. she is going to make it very clear that it is dangerous, and you have seen her and you have seen on debates before, you have seen her prosecute the case in the judiciary committee hearings when she was in the senate, i know she is taking this very seriously, she is preparing very hard with her team, she is also getting out and hitting the campaign trail, some visits to small businesses in pittsburgh, so she is taking this very seriously and i'm looking forward to seeing her shine on the debate stage on tuesday night because she is

taking this very seriously because she knows what is at stake for the american people. >> donald trump just wrapped up a campaign rally in wisconsin, he commented on yesterday's decision by new york judge to postpone from sentencing, claiming the charges against him should be dismissed as election interference. take a listen to trump moments ago.>> the big news this week was that the manhattan d.a. witch-hunt against me has been postponed because everybody realizes that there's no case because i did nothing wrong. political witch-hunt. it is a political attack against me by comrade kamala harris and sleepy joe and other radical left opponents for the purpose of election interference, this is all it is.>> how is the harris campaign reacting to his new york sentencing delay?

>> well, we will let the courts decide this, this is certainly in the court system, it is up to them but, as the vice president said, we will beat donald trump squarely at the ballot box, that is where this election is going to go, that is where the site is going to be and we are going to beat him on the ballot box. >> the harris campaign announced yesterday it raised $361 million in august, nearly three times donald trump's fundraising last month, 1.3 million people gave to harris for the first time, 60% of all donors were women and 20% of the donors were republicans or independents. what do these numbers tell you about the vice presidents movement that she is building?>> that was three times what donald trump raised in august, so a couple of things, number one i think it shows the fact that this enthusiasm on the campaign

trail, the 15,000 people in detroit, nearly 9000 people in savanna which is a huge number for that part of the country, the 12,000 people that we got in philadelphia, we can go on and on about the numbers she's getting. but, that excitement is channeling and turning into grassroots donations, it is also turning into volunteerism. we have a record number of people that are volunteering this weekend, knocking on doors. i think we had 200,000 people that have knocked on doors this weekend and done volunteer activities. the bottom line is this, when you see those crowds at the rallies, they are going home and making donations to the campaign, they are volunteering their time, knocking on doors, because they understand what is at stake. and when you look at the margins from 2016 and 2020, i worked on hillary clinton's campaign, we nearly lost by 70,000 votes, i worked with joe biden in 2020, this campaign is going to be very close.

when you see these grassroots donations, when you see the amount of money she is raising, it really does show the energy and enthusiasm and of course those people are turning their energy into action and you were going to see that in this campaign. >> they announced this week they would donate nearly $25 million to down ballot democrats, that includes $10 million for house races, $10 million for senate races, nearly $3 million for state legislation races and $1 million each to elect democratic attorney generals. what can you tell us about the strategy behind this across-the- board? >> well, the vice president understands that and it's a part of her job, also to carry along other democrats that are running in close races across different states because she knows the more democrats she has in this house and senate,

the more she has as governor in different races, the more she is going to be able to pass her agenda that helps middle-class families across this country. so it is very important to her and while of course there are coattails that certainly come along with running for president, usually if you do well as president in a certain party, other candidates in those states also come along with you. but there's no replacing getting money to the party committees that are working directly with those candidates and with those races. this is something that is very important to her and something very important to make sure that we have more democrats in office across the country when the vice president becomes president so we can implement that very important agenda.>> the vice president is also focus on the issue of reproductive rights, running a bus tour of swing states, what is the response to campaign --

the campaign has been getting? >> that is one of the major issues driving the selection, it matters to the voters, it doesn't really fall into a political category, it spans all political categories, so this is something we take very seriously on this campaign, this is something the vice president is focused on and you are seen all of these incredible female candidates and male candidates that are coming on the bus tour, joining us in swing states across the country to really take the message directly to voters about what is at stake. going back to project 2025, this agenda is going to enact the national abortion ban, no matter what donald trump says. so this is something we want to

reinforce, especially in this final stretch of the campaign cycle, early voting starts in a lot of states this month so it is very important to ask when voters walk into the ballot box, they understand what is at stake when it comes to their own reproductive choices and this is not something that just affects women, this is something that affects families. you see a lot of men out there who are joining this tour, who are traveling across the country and it is something you will continue to see throughout the rest of this campaign cycle. >> thank you, joining me now is congresswoman susan, chair of the democratic campaign committee, first of all, thank you for joining us and i want to talk about the harris campaign's infusion of $25 million to down ballot candidates, $10 million of that going to congressional races.

democrats only need to net four seats to take a majority and jeffries would likely be speaker but although according to the political report, the battleground to take back the house is confined to a few dozen seats across the country where neither parties holds a clear advantage. what can you tell us about how this money from vice presidents campaign will help house democrats the most?>> it is a big help and also a sign of the enthusiasm and energy behind vice president harris's campaign, support all across the country and she knows that when she becomes president, how important it is going to be to have a democratic congress to make sure that we can govern for the american people. as you said, we only need four more seats to take back majority in the house of representatives. we are playing in races all across the country, we have

incredible candidates and we know when we get our message out, we win. these resources are critically important so we can reach every voter in these battleground districts, remind them what is at stake because this is an election about our rights, our freedoms, democracy and future, we need to make sure that everyone turns out to vote because many of these will be close but we are in a very strong position and i look forward to working with president harris, with the democratic majority and governing for the american people. >> that covers how this money will help, so let's move onto where and which races are priorities for the democrats to retake the house. >> number one, we have to make sure we keep the folks that we have that are in office running in targeted races across the country, folks are running strong campaigns and then we have also what we call our red to blue candidates, candidates looking to flip across the

country, they are all over the country, states like iowa and nebraska and montana, and alabama. and in districts where the presidential, the senate and house races are going to be critically important like michigan and nevada and arizona. so, we are all across the country, we have incredible opportunities across the country and we are working race by race, district by district, and i think one of the most powerful things that we have is not only the resources but great candidates who are authentic voices for their districts. folks are tired of the chaos and the dysfunction of the republican party, they want folks who are going to come to d.c. to govern and move our country forward and those are the candidates that we have who are going to make a difference and help us take back the majority.>> the house is coming back in session on monday with yet another looming fight over

federal spending. speaker mike johnson is pushing a bill that includes a requirement for proof of citizenship for voter registration. an ad requested by former president trump that even republicans worry will be rejected by the senate. leading possibly to a government shutdown. this isn't the first time house republicans have done the bidding of trump. what is going to happen congresswoman? >> you are absolutely right, the house republicans are incapable of deciding anything without getting permission from donald trump, we know that the fiscal year starts october 1st every year, and yet republicans in the majority have been incapable of moving forward funding bills, they can't even agree with themselves. we need folks who are going to govern and unfortunately, while it may not be surprising, they aren't interested in governing, they know if they really want to move forward they should be working on bipartisan

legislation to keep the government running, we need legislation that is going to go through the house, through the senate, and president biden's desk and this should have been done a while ago. this should be the top priority and unfortunately they are playing politics. >> finally, house republicans are teeing up a series of politically motivated investigations. they include hearings about vice president harris's handling of the border, governor tim walz's connection to china and president biden's withdrawal from afghanistan, obviously these are important topics that the republics interest in them is only to create damaging headlines for them in the election season.>> it is not surprising that they continue to go down this path of focusing on politics and not the needs of the american people, we have seen pointless

investigations going on this entire congress that have led to nothing and they are continuing that now. they are wasting time and taxpayer resources, time when we have a government shutdown in front of us so we don't pass legislation and the american people want us focused on the issues that are top priorities for them. making sure that we grow and strengthen the middle class, that we address issues of affordable housing, that make sure we protect social security and medicare and we defend reproductive freedom. these are things that are top of mind for people across the country. they are not seeing solutions from republicans, that is why we are going to take back the majority and be able to work with president harris and vice president tim walz to move our country forward. >> congresswoman, suzan delbene , and head of the dccc, thank you for being with us.

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you wouldn't have to mess around with the connection. therapy's tough, huh? -mmm. it's like a lot about me. [laughs] a home router should never be a home wrecker. oo this is a good book title. >> on tuesday, vice president harris and former president trump will square off in their first and perhaps only debate, vice president harris has reportedly been getting ready for months, going back to when she expected to be debating trump's running mate, jd vance. former president trump has been a little less diligent in his preparation. sure, he has at least brought in

tulsi gabbard, rather than simply sparring with his golf buddies like rudy giuliani, but trump is famously not a fan of practice sessions and policy briefings, and in the past, maybe it didn't matter. after all, it doesn't take much practice to lie and interrupt and insult your way through a 90 minute debate, but this time, trump will be squaring off against an experienced prosecutor who is well-equipped to challenge him, like never before. vice president harris will have plenty of evidence at her disposal to lay out the case against trump, there is his record as president when he left behind an economy decimated by the pandemic and resisted the peaceful transfer of power for the first time in united states history, there are the 34 felony convictions handed down against trump by a jury of his peers since he left office as well as numerous other civil and criminal cases

working their way through the court system. and of course, there is the matter of his age and cognitive fitness. an issue he wants used against president biden, now being turned against him as he is now the oldest candidate to seek the white house. earlier this week, while trump was in new york getting his sentencing in the new york felony hush money case, deferred until after the election, i was reminded of how trump and his lawyers decided not to let him testify in his own defense, knowing anything he said on the situation might only make it worse. on tuesday in philadelphia, trump won't have the luxury of opting out, kamala harris is the one prosecutor donald trump will have no choice but to answer to and this time, the jury will be the american people. and there will be no opportunity for an appeal.

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>> welcome back to politics nation, after an action-packed week, let's bring in two msnbc political analysts for our panel. a republican strategist and a democratic strategist, and author of the forthcoming book, a more perfect party, i want to read that one. both msnbc political analyst, susan, let's start with you, politico is coming it an inside straight when trump got his sentencing delayed this week in the manhattan hush money case. he has now successfully gotten all of the legal cases against him delayed until after the election. the supreme court's ruling on

presidential immunity has effectively reset special counsel jack smith's election interference case and in florida, smith is appealing judge cannon's dismissal of trump's classified document case and the judge election interference case has also run into delays of allegations of prosecutorial misconduct by fani willis. do you think trump's delaying tactics are helping him in the selection, or could the legal hangover make him less likely to concede even if he loses?>> first let me congratulate you, that is fantastic, congratulations on the book, i can't wait to read it. as far as donald trump goes, i don't think it is worth congratulating him for anything, he has delayed his trial facing him, however, it is still in the news and when it comes to some cases, like

the one in d.c. which is about election interference, we may actually see more evidence presented in the case by jack smith, in order to make his plea to the judge. but, i think every time we talk about legal trouble for donald trump, it really hurts him because he doesn't get to stay on message because when he defends those trials as we saw yesterday, he just creates a huge mess and makes his donors and everyone else around him just bang their head against the wall.>> the biden administration revealed that russia is once again attempting to interfere in our presidential election. the doj indicted two russian nationals for funneling millions of dollars into a right-wing american media outlet, investigators say pushed pro-kremlin talking

points. the state and treasury department also officially designated five russian news outlets as foreign actors, including russia today. days later, the doj also announced new charges against five russian military intelligence officials and one russian civilian for a massive cyber hack operation called whisper gait. these hackers allegedly targeted the u.s., ukraine, and 25 other nato nations, trump has tried to claim that all stories of russian interference in our democracy is an elaborate hoax, and many in the republican party are going along with it. is this threat from abroad being taken seriously enough by either of the parties in your judgment? >> it is clearly being taken seriously under the doj, under

the biden/harris and ministration, that is why they are continuously trying to root out all of these moments of interference and this is the third election, the third straight election where there has been documented interference from russia. i appreciate you mentioning trump's response to all of this because he's making light of it, in spite of the hundreds of pages of evidence that was released this week, and allowed for public consumption this week. and it talks about the reality that there are russians paying right-wing influencers, paying for fake information to be displayed to the american voters and to harp on the division that we know is core to donald trump's pitch to the american public and with that in mind, i can't help but think about how donald trump cozied up to russia when he was in office and in the white house. i can't help but think about that interaction they had, how donald trump tried to hold up

aid to ukraine as well. with that in mind, and donald trump making light of what the interference that we know of, it just paints a very hard picture for americans to wrap their heads around about what he would do if he makes it back to the white house and what another round of him cozying up to putin could look like.>> susan, imagine if i told you a few days ago that dick cheney is endorsing kamala harris, but his daughter, who was once a member of the house republican leadership, today harris said she is honored to have the endorsement and lauding them for putting country over party and we just learned former president george w. bush has no plans to endorse anyone, maybe not endorsing harris, but he's clearly not endorsing trump. younger viewers might not get this, but maybe you can put

some context in this, how surprising is the cheney endorsement and why aren't more republicans named in the past from following his example? i have said on other shows here yesterday, i probably watched cheney more than anybody but i respect the fact that dick cheney is a major figure in republican politics as well as in the history of the republican party.>> yes, it is a political earthquake, i saw you yesterday i think on nichols show where you were talking about cheney, how you basically had nothing in common, but the danger this country faces if donald trump is in office is enough for reverend al sharpton and dick cheney to be on the same page. that tells you a lot. what is also very important, what we see right now that former president george w. bush

has no plans, i still don't take it off the table. we also have to be careful when we talk about other republicans endorsing. i think it puts some people in a difficult situation when it comes to family members, security, because we know what donald trump does when these types of endorsements i made, so maybe the fact that they are saying no, not when it comes to the former president, but other congress members, there is some pressure on them if they do that as far as security needs for the family. but i do think we are going to see a bunch more because it is really important when you think about liz cheney's endorsement, and i can't say this will hold true for the vice president, but liz cheney voted for donald trump in 2020. she's not like republicans like

me, she voted even knowing what his administration was like, she voted for him again. however, seeing how dangerous he was during january 6 and the actions he took, it was enough for her to basically say enough. it was enough for her father to say we must stop him at all costs. so i expect them to be on the phone getting more and more prominent republicans, maybe former secretaries of state, generals, former trump officials to come on board. but again, just keep in mind that some of them may want to wait until october just because again of the case -- security concerns. >> a community in georgia is reeling after yet another gun massacre, one of 22 mass shooting events this year so far. according to gun violence

archives and it refers only to incidents where at least four people died. republican vice presidential candidate, senator jd vance this week called mass shootings a fact of life. vice president, kamala harris said it doesn't have to be this way. guns have been a top issue in this race so far, it hasn't been to the degree of shootings in my opinion, but in the wake of this tragedy, could it quietly prove a pivotal moment in swing states like georgia? >> absolutely, because most of the american population is not willing to accept their child being killed in school as a fact of life. or their partner or spouse being killed at school as a teacher as a fact of life. because what jd vance is doing is offering an inhumane response to the reality that guns are the problem and it is time to move forward with

additional gun violence prevention measures. what i appreciate is that the vice president can back up her words that this doesn't have to be this way because she has been a part of the administration that started the first ever white house office of gun violence prevention. she was a part of the legislation that is long overdue for gun safety reform in recent years, so i feel like this conversation is also something that is going to draw attention to down ballot races in addition to the top of the ticket because those congressional seats, those state legislative races are the campaigns and candidates that people have to look to because they are the ones who decide who has that access to an assault rifle. they are the ones to decide what type of waiting periods there are. when it comes to change, this is the conversation that should extend to the down ballot races as well.>> thank you, and i'm looking for my book by juanita

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>> and we are going to build a younger, darker, hipper, fresher, sneaker wearing micro movement. a movement that is going to be more inclusive and built for the middle class. and we are going to end poverty wage work for once and for all. so, let's do the work. let's elect kamala harris so

that together we will usher in a new era of worker power, and together we will win the future. let's go get it.>> welcome back to politic nation, that was seiu president , april barrette speaking at a democratic convention, this past labor day weekend we celebrated the contributions of american workers who make this country strong and the unions that protect their rights on the job. joining me now to talk about it is april, who earlier in this year became the first black female to lead one of the country's largest public sector unions, april, congratulations and thank you for joining us.>> thank you so much for having me, let's go get it.>> two weeks ago you were among the labor leaders to speak at the democratic convention in

chicago and both kamala harris and tim walz have empathized their working-class roots and have championed on a platform of strengthening the middle- class and organized labor. what is at stake in this election in your view?>> well, thank you for having me and in my view, we have heard folks talk about this, trump and jd vance are unequivocal in saying they want to make america great again and we know what that means, they want to keep this country for an elite segment of the population. and what i know the members of seiu want, the 2 million members that i'm proud to represent and millions more like them in this country is that we want a country that offers an opportunity for those of us who have been left behind historically and an opportunity for us to get ahead, an opportunity for us to be able to build lives that can be full

of joy, where we can thrive, not just get by.>> you have some of the great labor leaders in new york, but more than half of the seiu members work for the government, many at a federal level, it composes project 2025, openly discuss reeling out employees who disagree with trump and replacing them with maga lawyers, although the former president has denied project 2025 as a blueprint for his possible second term, he has stated the goal of fighting the so-called deep state. how worried are you about this? >> i'm extremely worried about 2025, he can try to distance himself from it, but his fingerprints are all over it, so we know where he really is on it. but i think it's scary because

it's not just donald trump that wants to make project 2025 policy, it is hundreds of others on the right who have had these plans, they are new, they have been trying to take away the power of the union, it has been a forty-year attack on the labor movement in this country. and in many ways, it has proven effective. but, we are seeing a resurgence in the power, a resurgence in the favorability, 70% of americans are saying they are interested and want to be a part of the labor movement. that is why project 2025 is real and that is why they want to institute it, but what i'm concentrating on is making sure we mobilize our vote and we make project 2025 something that gets put on the shelf and does not > at the dnc, you showcased yourself as one amongst a new generation

of young union leaders, what do you think is attracting young people back to labor organizers? >> i believe that people want to be able to exercise power and it is in our unions where we bring people together to realize their own power and to most importantly act collectively with others to use our power to make transformational change in our lives. for far too long, unions has been a buzzword for people, things that are unseemly, they want us to believe that unions are corrupt and bad and they just want to take people's money but the reality is that people are coming to understand that unions are about working people standing up to build their power, to create the future that we want together. >> as we mentioned, you are the first black president of the seiu , according to government numbers, there were a record 14.4 million union members in

the u.s. last year, but nonwhite workers driving the increase. black union members increased by over 120,000, the highest in two decades. what does union membership need for black workers in this moment?>> in this moment, like moments before, it means an opportunity for black workers to any poverty wages, not just for ourselves but for everyone. when black people come together in unions, along with latino members and asian pacific islander workers and white workers, we are building the multiracial, multiethnic democracy of our dreams. we are ending systemic and structural racism and in an inclusive way. but we have to be realistic about where our unions have come from, where black and brown workers are always

welcome. so at this moment, we are saying we are going to change history and create a more inclusive labor movement that is effective of who we are as a nation.>> april verrett , seiu president, thank you for being with us. up next, my final thoughts, stay with us. with us o to y our fairy godmother alice, and long-lasting gain scent beads. part of the irresistible scent collection from gain. after careful review of medical guidance and research on pain relief, my recommendation is simple: every home should have salonpas. powerful yet non-addictive. targeted and long-lasting. i recommend salonpas. it's good medicine. ♪ hisamitsu ♪

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>> earlier this year, in the summer in late spring, a lot of people were talking about joe biden should step aside, they felt his cognitive skills and skills have diminished particularly when he had the debate with donald trump. i disagreed, i said so on this show, i think joe biden had been a consequential president and i didn't see any diminishing skills. but, where were they when we

couldn't see donald trump give a coherent answer to in easy question in front of a panel, and it has gotten worse this week on as something as simple as childcare legislation. look at this. >> if you win in november, can you commit to prioritizing legislation to make childcare affordable? >> we are going to be taking in trillions of dollars and as much as childcare is talked about as being expensive, it is relatively speaking not very expensive compared to the numbers we are going to be taking in, we are going to make this into an incredible country that can afford to take care of its people and then we will worry about the rest of the world.>> an incredible country, we are going to take in millions, what does that have to do with childcare legislation? he is losing it. he cannot in any way, shape, or form give a coherent answer to a solvable question, childcare,

child tax credit, he was president, he should know these things. but, i don't hear the republicans calling on him to step aside, i don't hear about he should not be the head of the ticket. i don't even hear the democrats who clearly say joe biden is lucid, i can only say we cannot have a double standard in the media, what worked for biden should work for trump. and i'm going to keep calling it, i'm also going to salute those like kamala harris that have real childcare legislative agenda. that does it for me, thanks for watching, i will see you back here tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern for another hour of politics nation, and we will be

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digging in for the debate. vice president kamala harris says she's ready for her face- off with donald trump while trump turns up the criticism on the campaign trail. we will take a closer look at the high stakes of their first and maybe only presidential debate. surprise support your former republican vice