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we are 58 days from the election in november . as harris and trump take the stage , there is a chance for the vice president to contrast economic plans with trump's plans. harris has rolled out new plans to tackle the rising cost of living and investments in small businesses. as for trump, he botched an answer on how we would address the cost of child care in america by rambling about tariffs instead of addressing the major concerns of parents because after all, childcare is childcare. joining us now is jeffrey sonnenfeld from yale, university . >> for all in the house, hey hey . >> you know something about the economy and maybe you can make sense of what we heard. >> that's just to make me sound

smart. >> what did we hear about childcare is childcare. >> childcare is childcare and it is something you have to have in this country, you have to have it. when you talk about those numbers compared to the numbers i'm talking about by taxing nations, they will get used to it. they will have a substantial tax when they send product to our country. those numbers are bigger than any numbers we are talking about including childcare. >> and that reminds me when i was teaching at your alma mater. and a traditional progressive did not know who the guy was. he talked about this lawsuit and he just completely made it up and i have to give him credit for faking it.

this guy gets no credit for faking it. given all the scary things you look that with melissa murray this morning and the dangers of trump coming up. and my colleague, just before the break as i sat down, what value do i bring to this serious discussion? i hope i have good news on the economy. what we will see without a doubt, coming up on tuesday night is more trumpaganda. even democrats and liberal democrats are believing liberal nonsense. something in the 50s, even before i was born called the sleeper effect. you keep recent

repeating nonsense, even unfounded and through the repetition, people start to believe it. researchers at yale for yale day said it was a very dangerous phenomena and what kamala harris has to do is to awaken the nation to this sleeper effect. it will be hard to do but when he bails out, are we better off than we were four years ago in the answer is screaming out, yes. >> and to that point, reuters and goldman sachs said that u.s. economic growth would get the biggest boost with kamala harris winning the white house according to goldman sachs. according to republican sweep and the government led by donald trump, economic input would take a hit from increased tabs on imports and tighter

immigration policies they said. for the folks who know the numbers and see the flow of the economy start to say, timeout. let's understand what we are talking about here. former president trump wants to have a broad and sweeping tariff on pretty much everything. lying to the american people and saying you will not feel that, that is something other governments are going to pay, how does the vice president on tuesday breakthrough on the points you are making? this narrative that people believe that somehow tariffs do not impact them and it is something someone else is going to pay and that is how we are going to pay for child care? >> tariffs are attacks on the average working family. it is almost $4000 a year on tax. he is not taxing the suppliers,

it will be passed on to the consumer. we set it first and then the nobel prize winners extended it . it is going to raise inflation 10% or up to 15%, that alone because of the cost of importing goods and pharmaceuticals or whatever it is, semi conductors. then you have the trade barriers and just between us friends here, harley davidson had to deal with this in the last trump administration. the reciprocal trade barriers were that 100% of harley- davidson's were made in the country and there were reciprocal trade barriers and we saw this in 1930 with the tariffs that were terrible. the ceos are not protectionists and this is one of the reasons

why the business community is protective of kamala harris. they are believers in immigration and the rule of law which is why so many ceos are lining up and no major ceos lining up behind donald trump. the ultimate history of the last century, the party used to have roughly half of the business community supporting the republican candidate and it came to a stop in 2016. >> i hear you on the sleeper effect but when we talk about tariffs and one of the reasons why donald trump loves to talk about them is people know the cost of housing is too high and people can barely afford their rent. for most people, they won't be able to own a house in this country and the cost of childcare is insurmountable. wages have not increased at a

rate to keep up with the rising cost of living. at the grocery store, you get a handful of things and you feel as though you should've gotten a weeks worth of groceries. that is salient to people. the harris campaign has talked about addressing those challenges through corporate price gouging and affordable housing. how do you meet people where they are on those concerns? >> she has got to talk about inflation and wrap it around other things. this is the strongest economy in the world and the world bank has said it is based on the strength of the u.s. economy. and those at goldman sachs's -- >> comrades? >> exactly. >> we haven't seen unemployment this low since but bonanza was

on tv. none of you know that but i used to watch that show. >> i think michael is familiar with bonanza. >> the biden/harris administration created 60 million drops and trump actually lost almost 2 million jobs. the unemployment numbers are great and wage rates are increasing faster than inflation . why did it soar? we just had the worst recession in the per post-world war ii era thanks to former president trump . the way he handled crisis, the economy off the cliff. oil was zero. never in the history of humanity -- now they are going up and then they are

down to 2.99% and we are making progress on inflation. >> you put $1 trillion on the back of the next generation and additional debt. people lost past that. nikki haley tried to warn everybody about that. >> it is the small businesses and that family support. for people who earn under $400,000. you are exactly right. i am so glad you bring up the opportunity. that is so important. that is what she stands for. not just the positive spirit by putting the numbers behind it. it used to be $5000 to start a business and what does that get you? that is the real deal and it makes a difference and it is an important move and every economist is endorsing it as a terrific part of the harris-

walz agenda. >> a true driver of our economy . they think small mom-and-pop shops but there are medium- sized businesses that qualify as small businesses. that is restaurants and also media companies and tech companies, you name it. >> yeah, they are hiring every day individuals. they could be a one-person shop with an assistant or a 50 or 60 person shop. >> big business or small business and you guys were probably at the dnc and i was there too. we saw big business and small business and old and young. it was something that kamala harris does and she is not getting credit for it. she is not out vilifying business leaders large or small

. if there is a problem, she wants to bring them around the table and work it out. nobody has to coach her on how to reach populations that have lacked a voice before. underrepresented minorities. >> she has got it. jeffrey sonnenfeld, thank you so much. he brought papers and everything . >> we have two from yell at the table, what will you do. >> and a highway shooter concerned armed and dangerous. and later at this hour, billy porter joins us here at the table to talk about the work he and the rest of the broadway community are doing to elect kamala harris. you are watching the weekend on

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we are continuing to follow the breaking news overnight. kentucky authorities are searching for 32-year-old 38. he is a person of interest in a shooting along the highway where at least five people were injured. we have our correspondent live in kentucky. what do you have? >> reporter: we actually just got briefed by a sheriff office deputy from the sheriff office department conducting the search. they just resume to the manhunt at 9:00 this morning, about 15 minutes ago. they contained a forage stated area where the shooting to

place. they believe 32-year-old joseph a. couch who they are not naming as a suspect but a person of interest , they believe they know where he is. he allegedly shot into 9 : nine vehicles along at 70 around 5:30 yesterday seriously injuring about five people. the sheriff office deputy said one victim was shot in the head and one in the chest and one in the arm. all are said to be in stable condition and he is praying for a speedy recovery at this point and that nobody dies. the person is a person of interest and they believed he is armed and dangerous and they want to catch him because they don't want this to happen again. let's listen to what he has to say. >> the information is sketchy right now. everything was chaotic up there and we received different reports of different things and some did not pan out. the person of interest that we

have put out is pretty good information. we are not listing him as a suspect at this point, but he more than likely will be a suspect before day's and. >> reporter: he did say he feels confident they will be able to catch this person of interest by the end of the day. they don't have information about a possible motive or a weapon that was used and he does not believe the shooter knew any of the victims. >> live from kentucky, thank you. i was the republican-led house prioritizing their week. they have looked at crime, the economy and the order noting the border crossings are at a four-year low. tony gonzalez is predicting his party will lose control of the house saying, we are going to lose it because of

ourselves. >> i appreciate the congressman being honest about that. i've been saying for over a year they will lose the house. not just because of the narratives of the five seats in new york and the political landscape in that regard. because in terms of the substance of issues that house members want to run on in their districts. believe it or not, folks, a lot of house members, that is what they want to do. >> he said people just want their lives to be better and they want kids safe in school and money in their pockets but republicans continue to get in their own way. >> they have laid out nothing on those points and someone like congressman gonzalez is saying, when i go to a town hall , what will i say when i get the incoming from constituents who are talking about what

professor jeffrey sonnenfeld was talking about, the economy . i'm still feeling the pressure on gas prices and i am on easy because i by five items at the grocery store and the cost was like 40 items at the grocery store. republicans don't have an answer for that. they are hunter biden crazy and they want to investigate joe biden for impeachment and staying instead of laying out a strategy to put up against what kamala harris will be spelling out to the country on tuesday night. >> people forget because memories are short. republicans literally ran on putting a check on trump. these republicans in congress have not done their jobs and

they are not working for you and we will work for you. does that sound familiar to you ? what donald trump and kamala harris are saying. i will fight for you and donald trump fights for himself. there are things they must do for the job. politico is reporting about the stopgap funding bill. this is from friday. house republicans unveiled their plan because they must fund the government. speaker johnson wants to put the bill on the floor on wednesday discrete squeeze democrats. it is a top republican focus heading into campaign season. it's all but doomed with the democratic- controlled senate. they must act in the stopgap funding that republicans have put forward

will kick the can down the road and fund the government until the election and about march. they will say, we will attach this noncitizen voting legislation to it. >> let's be clear that it is against the law if you are not a citizen of the united states to vote in any election period.. >> it is to try to embarrass kamala harris and democrats. they think that is how they keep the house. the law is clearly stated and well down that if you are not a citizen, you cannot vote. what you are about to hear from republicans on wednesday is political bs. >> that's what we call a mike drop moment.

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>> good morning. i appreciate this effort of men for choice and making note of the fact that second gentleman doug emhoff partnered with the organization in may. he said it is important to mobilize men because it is a issue of fairness to women. women are dying and it impacts the ability to plan their lives . what other freedoms are at risk? it impacts all americans and not just women. >> and tell us about how your organization in partnership with the second gentleman are partnering around issue and wakening in this sense, as doug noted, the freedoms at risk not just for them but for the women in their lives. >> the second gentleman has been fantastic to work with and

fantastic in using his platform to speak out about reproductive rights and access for all. we focus on not just having men see themselves as allies but as stakeholders with something to lose. i will make it personal. if the government has the power to control my wife's body, they have the power to control if and when we build our family. my body may not be under attack but my rights and freedom is. men are finding out the hard way how much they have at stake as they are watching their partners and their wives literally almost died because the wives cannot get access to basic healthcare right now. >> i asked last week of one of our guests how you bring this into the conversation and one

person tweeted, what did men want, an engraved invitation? because the way the issue is framed, it is not in the context of family and freedom. listen to how governor tim walz talks about it at the human rights campaign dinner. take a listen. >> everyone deserves to be treated with respect. freedom to make that choice. i keep reinforcing this because government is not too big to be in my bedroom and in your uterus. big enough to be in every library, big enough to do that. >> that freedom frame, to your polling, makes it a message for everyone. >> alicia , i'm going to say hello quickly from joe but i

love what coach or governor wrought walz just said . the government has the power to control the single most important decision a woman and family could ever make. when we think about what we are doing, we are not waiting for the invitation, we are training men how to organize other men and bring them into this fight. we have literally trained organizers in florida and georgia and arizona. we are organizing phone banks and helping them learn how to speak out because it is critical that all of us get off the sidelines and into this fight. it is important to know that for a long time men have ignored the voices and sat silently on the sidelines as women and people who can get

pregnant have this warning that roe v wade be overturned. what they are trying to do is create a world in which our organization is not needed because of a natural part of the way men in this country understand the issue. they see this as their issue too and more of us are stepping up in action and support of the people and partner organizations . i want to be clear as we are not leaders of the movement. we want to lead other men to follow the women and organizations that have been leading this fight for decades. >> the campaign has new ads out this morning that they will be pushing out in battleground states in advance of the date. one is abortion and the other is entitled big family and it's

about ivf. this came out this morning and i want to play a little for you . >> ivf is a miracle for us as it allowed us to have our family. after having my daughter, i wanted more children but my embryo transfer was canceled eight days before the procedure. donald trump stopped us from growing the family that we wanted. i don't want politicians telling me how and when we can have a baby. we would need a president who will protect our rights and that is kamala harris. >> i am kamala harris and i approve this message. >> this is not a theoretical conversation. two-year point, this ad brings it home and makes a point. >> yeah, i think it is important for men to understand why these politicians are going after ivf in particular. if a

frozen embryo has the same rights as a living person, then, in the termination of that embryo's life would be akin to murder. the goal in going after ivf is about been banning criminal abortion anywhere in the country. we launched a campaign that features a conversation between two men talking about this ivf issue. and i want to give a shout out to my former chair for the work she has done for the campaign. for the first time in history, men talk to went men about abortions that we understand the issues at a deeper level. including the way ivf is being attacked. when you look at something like ivf being attacked, it draws into stark relief what the issue is about. people talking about wanting to build families and politicians are controlling the way people

trying to have kids can have kids. it is not actually about life or health or about families, it's all about power and control . about them trying to enforce their view and their perspectives on to me and my family and on to you and your family. we have all had enough. >> thank you very much for your time in your voice. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> you are in for a treat, folks. billy porter joins us here in the studio to talk about broadway for harris. this is the weekend. end. what? i don't do that. this reminds me of my bike. the wolf was about the size of my new motorcycle. have you seen it, by the way? happy birthday, grandma! really?

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>> the broadway for harris coalition is rolling out weekly phone banks in favor of the harris-walz ticket . 50 broadway stars working to increase voter participation in swing districts. then there are fundraisers with broadway talent for kamala harris and tim walz. we have the grammy and emmy award- winning actor, billy porter is part of the broadway for harris coalition and joins us right here the table on the weekends.

>> and the oscar is coming. >> yes, we are working on it and the work will come when it's time but we have work to do right now >> it is all of us broadway folks coming together to make sure the vice president harris and tim walz are elected so that democracy can survive. >> not just democracy but you said had merit humanity is on the ballot. >> yes. as a gaye black christian man in this country and in this world, you know, my rights have been up for legislation since the moment i could comprehend thought. my humanity and yours and ours has been up for legislation and i am tired of it

. it does not make sense and it is not okay. this is the last hurrah, you all. whether it is on the ballot or not, it is important. we need to pay attention. >> the stakes are -- >> the stakes are high. ancient democratic civilizations have fallen around 250 years. we have 248, what is it going to be, people? what is it going to be? pay attention and get out and vote. i don't understand how it is a conversation to begin with. you know, like, let me just say one thing that i don't think we say enough. if it was a black person -- if it was a black person, we would

not be having this conversation. if it was a woman, we would never be having this conversation. if it was a gaye person, we would never be having this conversation. it is disgusting. >> you've come to the right table, sir. >> i'm here. >> i need to look at my collection plate. >> what you say is very important. particularly connected to humanity because you have a lot of folks in this space who want to deconstruct our humanity. we want to created in the image of one person. we want to create everything we do around one person. my party, i'm still a member of the republican party, much to

their chagrin. i see you. we know fundamentally that is what connects us together. what you said is very important because it does, in stark relief , remind us of what is at stake here. it is about humanity and it's about our rights. this coalition of americans. yes, you are on broadway and a popular individual who has won awards. at the end of the day, that does not define your humanity and does not define your rights, but your vote does . >> yes. >> that is what you are talking about and trying to get people reconnected to. >> it's about addressing the chaos. it's about addressing the doublespeak. it's about understanding and trying to teach people where we are for real. you know, so often we

want to turn a blind eye or i'm not into politics and we don't have time for that. it's not the same as it has been either. it is not two sides having a real dialogue in the conversation and a compromise. it really is, this time around, one thing or the other. we have to make sure the message is clear. your vote means democracy survives or not. it is like hitler out there. the reason why those kinds of energies can flourish is due to the chaos. it is due to the exhaustion. you know, you exhaust the electorate and people stop paying attention. >> they feel overwhelmed. >> they feel overwhelmed. you

can feel overwhelmed but make sure your little behind schedule to the polls and vote. i am not supposed to be saying that but i don't work here. i am not in a 501(c)(3) and i'm not going to get in trouble because i say it. you may have to delete that whole thing, but i don't know. >> everybody is acting like this is real and something normal. no, this needs to be partisan today, it needs to be partisan today. >> literally, you talk to a reporter on august 21st, i believe and it was billy porter celebrates harris/walz but warns democrats not to fall into complacency. when they go low, we go high we

need to look at what that means. sometimes when they go low, you go toe to toe. >> sometimes you have to go toe to toe for real. there is so much and i'm in the middle of it all the time and i'm exhaust did. the one thing i hope we have learned over this last almost 9 years is that we have to stay engaged, always. i think this change is going to come -- i will speak for myself . there was a time when the change has happened and we are here. we've got women's rights and marriage equality and civil rights and we have roe v wade and then we got a black president and we sat on the sofa and eight on bones for years and did not show up for the work for president obama.

we left them out there with his pants down. i hope we have learned when vice president harris and tim walz when that we will start manifesting that and speak it into and existence. when they win, we have to surround that and lift them up with action. the midterms cannot come around and we not show up to the polls again. i hope we have learned. >> it is all connected. >> if we understand it is forever, then we can take breaks . we can take care of ourselves . it's not we arrive somewhere and it's over. >> i would like to say bishop billy porter. >> i would like to amend the sermon, if i could. >> when they go low, we can go

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>> so it is muscle memory and not like joe biden to remember in this scenario how we talked about it and prepped it. >> that is crucial in key. because the economy is front and center for this election with the voters with abortion and voting rights and literally making enough money to put food on your table, these are issues she is comfortable with. she has been talking about it her entire career but even in the last campaign. most americans don't have an extra $400 in their bank accounts if something happens for an emergency. and she is talking about that in terms of the opportunity economy. from the way we go and set up shop somewhere for a while, how

the debate campus happening is a reinforcement and reminder, don't overload and look for opportunities to talk to people at home. >> trust me, trump will give her the opportunities, unwittingly because he can't help himself. those are the moments to look for the gotcha and the singer which is what he will try to do. when she tells me, i'm talking, he has preprogrammed into his head how he wants to respond. stay in the lane in which you know your stuff. >> and she was asked about him questioning. >> yeah, very dismissive. >> that's exactly it. >> a landmark week. tune in for the presidential debate on tuesday between vice president harris and former president trump. analysis starts at

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