looking future and it will never pass here in pennsylvania regardless of how many votes he gets.

acquire u.s. steel is a very important -- u.s. steel is critical to pennsylvania. only 4000 jobs. >> important union job that i know the vice president stands with those union jobs. >> okay, natalie dean, as always, good to see you. thank you so much. at this hour, and other notable endorsement workup vice president kamala harris, the who and the why ahead. it is not liz cheney although she did endorse her. the end of the alphabet generation, may be the ones to decide the next president. what a poll says. the next hour starts right now. ♪ ♪ good day from msnbc world headquarters, will come to

alex witt reports. developing, election day now just 58 days away. vice president kamala harris and former president donald trump are both gearing up for what will be a historic and pivotal thing, the first presidential debate. that is going to be a face-off that will take place two days from now and earlier today supporters of both candidates, hearing expectations on the sunday shows peer >> i think what is going to win the debate, what is going to win the election goes back to his economic speech he gave in new york on thursday. because the number one issue for voters across this country, whether you're republican or democrat or independent, is theo economy. >> donald trump is for endonald trump. and kamala harris has spent her life working for the people. kamala harris, for the people. a i think that is who will show up on tuesday night. >> ahead of the debate, new polls bringing fresh insight into how tight this race is in some of the most critical states. in a new cbs poll, of

battleground states emma harris leads trump in michigan and wisconsin. both within the margin of error and they are tied in pennsylvania. and former republican liz cheney reveals today, revealed e rather today she spoken with vice president harris after shee had her father, vice president dick cheney gave public endorsements to the democratic nominee. >> i'm not going to talk about the details and conversation except i would say, that she has a full recognition and understanding of the stakes of this race and inof the importan of reflecting a broad coalition that is coming together to support her. >> in just a few minutes we will dig into what impact an endorsement from the cheney's could have in this race. but first we got reporters and analysts ready to go over these developments. we begin with nbc's aaron gilchrist, once again from pittsburgh, pennsylvania with the latest from the harris campaign hear what are you hearing from the team today, with the vice president about th how she's preparing to meet and debate donald trump.

we got to remind viewers that is the first time they will meet face-to-face. >> you are absolutely right. i think they've been in the room together for the first time but it is the first interaction coming tuesday night on the debate stage in philadelphia, we know that the vice president has been hunkered down with some of her closest advisers in the hotel es behind me. we have not seen her today. we saw her about 24 hours ago and that was the first time we had seen her in the three days she's been here at that point, four days she's been here, really going through the motions of preparing for this ti debate. we understand she has held mock debate sessions, she's gone through briefing books that her staff has prepared for her. according to sources we talk rd to, she's done q&a, work shopping answers to policy questions that she may receive s on the debate stage. and we heard from one of her campaign managers earlier today, here on msnbc, talking da about how the campaign really is viewing this moment in time, when vice president harris will be on the stage with former president trump, having to

answer questions and having to have a face-off with him as well. listen. >> all jokes aside we are taking this extremely seriously. donald trump is a skilled debater. you spend in the most yo presidential debates of any candidate in presidential history. this will be the vice president's first residential debate as the nominee. and so, we know that donald trump it is preparing as he has been for weeks and he's going to come ready. but so is the vice president. >> the other part of the debate preparation here is preparing for whatever donald trump may do on stage. the campaign sources inside have been very clear about part of the preparation that he includes being able to pivot if there is a moment where donald trump my say something derogatory to the vice president. we know that he's insulted her on the campaign trail, alex, i have been to both campaign -- trump campaign events and harris campaign events. we have heard him lab insulted

her and we've also heard on the campaign trail the vice president, almost every speech he has had has ended with when we fight we win and i think there might be expectation from supporters that the vice president will fight on stage, at the same time we heard from circuits who had a congresswoman say that the vice president intends to be calm, cool and collected on stage. ol at the same time she will stand her ground if there is an insult that is lobbed at her, if there are lies told on stage, we understand from sources the vice resident is ce prepared to call at the lies as they happen. to correct the record if necessary and make sure that she seen as ones who can be presidential, who can stand up to any sort of bullying, as it is characterized coming from the former president, alex. >> 100%, it is a safe bet that no one will walk over kamala harris. we will see what happens ve tuesday and we will see you again. let's go to e nbc's jillian frankel right here in new york. devoted have a different opinion on how to approach the

debate then trump might normally take? >> alex, i spoke with a handful of voters yesterday in battleground wisconsin, at the trump event and what many of them told me is they hope the former president will focus more on policy over personal attacks on the debate stage. now trump has to walk a fine line here, it is a major goal for his campaign on the debate stage to sort of define harris before she is able to do that on her own terms. we do expect to hear him go after the biden/harris administration over the u.s. withdraw from afghan us down and to specifically criticize harris herself and how she handled immigration at the southern boarder over the last few years. i do want you to hear from a few of trump's most ardent supporters at that rally yesterday, about what they do and don't want to hear on the debate stage. take a listen. >> i really want him to stay focused on policy. and try not -- i think so much has always been to just pick apart each other and to really

just try to get focused on what he's going to do and how he's going to do it and stay away from trying to --. >> i hope you let's, let's talk and make a fool out of herself because that will be easy for her to do. yeah, going off into tangents and personal attacks, stick to the issues. that is what is most important right now. and i think he will have a good debate. he did with sleepy joe. >> alex, in terms of his overall debate prep, we know hee has a less traditional approach and instead favors a fluid d style of phone calls and meetings with those closest to him in his orbit, about top policy issues and how to approach them heading into tuesday night. >> jillian frankel thank you an for that. let's go from there to a new and exclusive story. nbc news learned of another notable endorsement for vice

president kamala harris. nbc's -- broke the story and has more on the exclusive interview. welcome, who has made e this endorsement? >> good afternoon, alex. the father of a slain moslem army captain who died in iraq ho in 2004, serving our country, 00 the father himself garnered a lot of attention because he pointedly criticized former president trump in 2016 at the democratic national convention in his speech. now is telling us exclusively at nbc news, i talked to him just yesterday lk and he said he wants to endorse vice president harris brick youe will also be at a campaign surrogate for her. take a listen what he told me about why he's making the decision. >> why are you mendorsing vice president harris at this moment? >> trump is undeserving of support of america, because he is divider. he creates hatred. on the other hand, kamala harris, r vice

president, is person who unites the country, who is for equal dignity, who is for equal opportunity for entire america. our goal is to our families, the most honorable and respected families in united states. we have utmost respect for them. to them, i say this. s. please reconsider. reconsider your stand. donald trump has habit and nature of exploiting. >> now he also told me that he thinks donald trump has gotten worse since he went and did that speech in 2016, so he saying he really believes donald trump will be a dictator and could end american

democracy as we know it. mo the last part he was talking about gold star families. the endorsement comes as a harris campaign is anticipating a number of goals our families connected to loved ones they lost during the withdrawal fromt afghanistan, and that of course, abby gait attack at the kabul airport. that they are anticipating they will be attacking president biden as well as vice presidents harris. and he's essentially saying to the families, i respect you and understand why you feel the way you feel but he also is imploring them to really reconsider backing vice president harris. on the present trump has been se disrespectful to gold star families and veterans and that is why he wanted to speak out. >> does he think the debate can sway the opinions? >> i did not -- that's a good question. i'm not sure whether or anot h believes the debate can sway li voters as well as families. what he does want people to know is that he believes he himself, talking out and speaking ethical's are family and family member that he can explain to people why he sees donald trump the way that he sees him and he's hoping that will sway people.

>> did he talk to you about donald trump's appearance at arlington cemetery, the controversial one ended that influence him as well? >> that certainly influence him and he did talk to me about that. he said he found it to be really disrespectful for donald trump to go to arlington cemetery, to take a photo. even talk specifically about the fact donald trump put two thumbs up at that great site, of that fallen soldiers. he said in particular, who does that and why would you take that space that is dignified where heroes are laid to rest and make it a political statement. essentially echoing vice president harris language and calling it a political stunt. in he also said he goes to arlington cemetery a lot. he has really got to know the staff there and he says when i go there, i bow my head and think about all the people who have lost loved ones and given their lives in service of this country. he not only is really mad about donald trump, using the spacey we -- the way he did but he's familiar with it because of yours as a culture father he

goes there to visit his family. >> of course. let's be clear, the issue is not about donald trump going t with a gold star family. a to visit and honor their loved one that they lost, that is not the issue. that is fine and invite donald trump to be there. it is about turning it into a campaign added, taking pictures and putting it out there for publicity which is against the roles. let me ask you one more question. >> and that physical es altercation. the campaigning awas physical wrestling and getting into an tl argument with the arlington cemetery staff member. he was dumbfounded by that and yeah, all of that adds to this. >> 100%, one more question because you've done exclusive reporting on the debate prep for the vice president. this article headlined parents preparing for potential volatile moments. tell us about tsthat. >> i have been talking to a

number of sources who are mb familiar with her debate preparation. some of them directly involved. they tell me she's wreally trying to prepare to both introduce herself to americans who maybe don't know her back dori using talking about her mother and middle-class upbringing and also about her policy stances. but she's also getting ready to needle donald trump. she thinks he's someone who's th volatile, who used derogatory language which is why there was a tussle about whether or not the microphone should be muted and the harris campaign did not want the microphones muted but t agreed they would be muted. that even that he would curse at her and use the b word and they are preparing for her to be calm and stay focused on what she wants to say to the american people because there are undecided voters that she really wants to appeal to. the other thing i'm told that she wants to make sure she doesn't get pulled into personal attacks. she wants to get him to lash out at then does not want herself to be seen as lashing out and i'm told she right now is really being diligent about preparations and in doing that, she's having somebody dressing and talking like donald trump,

and a doing that for her, that same aid was working with hillary clinton in 2016. the lot of thought is going into the debate and she wants to come away feeling like she got her message across and didn't get in the mud with donald trump. >> we will see what happens tuesday, thank you. good to see you. there's a lot of big-name republicans jumping on the kamala harris bandwagon but a la prominent former republican presidential candidate has yet to endorse. a one time adviser to that person joins me next. back in 90 seconds. n 90 second so when i had carpal tunnel syndrome, lower back pain, and shortness of breath, i thought that's what getting older felt like. thank goodness... ...i called my cardiologist. i have attr-cm, a rare but serious disease... ...and getting diagnosed early... ...made a difference. if you have any of these warning signs, don't wait, ask your cardiologist about attr-cm today. (♪♪) what tractor supply customers experience is personalized service. made possible by t-mobile for business.

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new today, liz cheney doubling down on her public support of kamala harris hear in a new interview, the former republican congresswoman explaining why she and her father, former vice president dick cheney are endorsing harris for president. >> given how close this race is, in my view again, it is not enough. you have many republicans who are saying, well, we're not going to vote for him but we will write someone else in. and i think that this time around, that is not enough. it is important to actually cast a vote for vice president harris. >> joining us now is stuart stevens, senior adviser to the lincoln project and that romney's chief strategist for his 2012 presidential campaign. welcome, thank you for being here. did you think you would live to see the day that a cheney would vote for democrats let alone what liz cheney announced

today. she spoke with kamala harris about it. >> i think it just shows the stakes of this election. i work closely with liz, debate prep for her dad and in 2004, -- predicted liz would run for president. she was that impressive. the fact this party doesn't have room for a cheney, just shows the complete collapse of the republican party. as any sort of governing party, with any coherent political velocity. and you've got a criminal, who's the nominee of the party. i mean it is just extraordinary. and i think that the cheneys are doing the right thing for the country. >> what do you make of the theory, and it was published this weekend in an article, that republicans need to lose this election in order to regain the republican party. in other words, see the backside of donald trump for good and then put the party back together again.

>> i think they do need to lose this election but i don't think that is going to be enough. this is somehow a reluctance to admit and accept that donald trump, third time he's the nominee and he is what republicans like. we can't get around that. is not like just hijacked the party. >> hang on, what is it that republicans like about him? what does donald trump and doug -- embodied that this is great, we love this. >> i think that there is a great degree of racism involved, that we don't talk about enough. trumps coalition is 85% white in a country that is 59% white. and people when i say that to republican france they say everybody who voted for trump as a racist and no, it means that everybody who voted for trump, there was something more important to them than having a racist as president because you can't deny that donald trump is a racist. and i think that the party has become driven by this grievance

and this anger. and it is really at war with the future. this is a party that gets in a fight with nike over colin kaepernick. gets in a fight with disney. this is just rejection of the world as it is and it is so different from the reagan era, when i was drawn to the party with it was optimistic to be born in the country, you won the lottery. to be born in transamerica come you are victim and sucker. powerful forces are out there to take advantage of you. i think it is a complete reversal for what it means to be an american. >> so let's take this sensitive topic of racism and, given who the democratic presidential candidate is, what kind of uphill battle is it, if this is something you are suggesting is innately at the root of support for donald trump, given who kamala harris is. >> look, i think this --

underlying dynamic of this race, it is just really dominant but the good news is, the majority of americans embrace the future. they embrace the fact that the country is changing. we are becoming a minority majority country. those who are 16 years and younger in america, the majority are nonwhite and you either think that is wonderful and embrace it and think that it is part of the american experiment, continuing on or you find it fearful. and i think the majority of the country does not find it. -- your fall. and they embrace harris and walz for this optimistic vision that they have for the country, this hopeful nature. so i think it goes to why it is difficult to convert anybody from being a moderate republican to supporting harris. something in the lincoln project we don't try to do. it is a fools errand. but, i think trump is going to

lose and i think he's going to lose badly and it will speak well for the future of the country. >> you have said that and i have quoted you too people. do you feel about that today, generally given the polls quite >> yeah, yeah. and look, i think the structure of this race has not changed and that is that donald trump has a hard time getting over 47%. he won with 46.1%. romney lost with 47.2. when he lost in 20, he got 46.9 and after the terrible debate the president had it was difficult to get trump over 47%. so i think that is just the structure of the race. and when you look at younger voters, who are overwhelmingly for biden i mean, for harris/walz, you look at the fact there are fewer trump voters, from 2020 who are alive because he did better with older voters. so some of those aren't with us anymore. so trump lost by 7 million votes. what is he doing to get new

customers? and for the life of me, i can't see it. they seem to be daring people not to vote for donald trump. and i think a lot of people are going to take him up on it. >> and it is reported today, that your former boss, george w. bush will not publicly endorse kamala harris or donald trump. i mean, he never endorsed donald trump, not 2016 or 2020 so i'm curious what you think of that and will another former residential candidate romney who you were also a strategist, will he endorse anyone because i am imagining it would not be donald trump. >> look, i worked for both of these men, it was a great privilege. but i have never spoke for them. the former president would follow the vice president but apparently he's not and as far as senator romney come you go back to 2016 in the spring, and

he was the first to really come out. is a former nominee, to speak out against trump. and if people have followed him, he became the first person, senator in american history to vote to convict a member of their own party for impeachment. so i think what senator romney has done showed the way and the party, for the most part hasn't followed. i think he's been tremendously courageous here, and he stands alone in the party almost. >> is there at all, stuart, a bit of dilemma for democrats, to now praise devout republicans. i'm going to single out dick cheney. he embodies conservative republican ideology. and now, you have kamala harris saying she appreciates the support, which is understandable. but, is there a dilemma and saying, we welcome him x >> look, i think it just shows

this race isn't really about left versus right at all. it is about a sense, what is it to be an american and it is a country of a rule of law. what is it, is there not a role for the and see in public life? in 2000 the bush campaign, the thing that worked better in that campaign for the governor bush than anything else with him saying he would restore honor and dignity to the white house. that was overwhelmingly powerful, the transcendent party and ideology. >> that was a long time ago. >> and it was a very different, very different party. and if you go back and read george bush his acceptance speech in 2000 in philadelphia it is like a document from a lost civilization. it is all about grace and humility and service. that message couldn't get 5% in the republican party today. but i think what the cheneys have done is said this is so much greater than any particular policy. and i think also, those of us

who support republicans, who support the conservative agenda we have to ask ourselves, what does it mean to continue to support this, that you have to support a criminal, a sexual predator as the nominee. does that not say that there's something fundamentally broken about that ideology? and about that sense of governing?. to be it is clear as can be. >> i could go on forever with this conversation and i hope to again but let me ask you a quick button up and that being, what you expect to happen on tuesday? what are you looking for? >> i'm not going to lower expectations because i'm not working for the campaign. i think harris will have a great night. the idea was to take somebody, focus on what they do well and help make them do that great. she is a prosecutor and my view of this issue not to prosecute

donald trump, not just on the criminal stuff but he was a failed president. one of the worst presidents in american history and she should go through this and offer a positive alternative to that. but what i really think people are going to come away from with it, is what do the people like, and donald trump is an angry guy who's afraid of women , particularly african american women, and i think it is going to come across and that is what is going to be memorable about this. >> stuart stevens, look for to seeing you again. thank you. new word from officials in kentucky on the highway shooting, and it is not necessarily what people want to hear. that is next. is next. ient, but with a generac home standby generator, your life goes on uninterrupted. because when your generac detects a power outage, it automatically powers up, giving your family the security and peace of mind they deserve. we don't have to worry about whether we lose power or not. if the utility company does not come through, our generac does. after the hurricane happened,

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a member of the natural resources and energy and commerce committee, and it is good to see you again. thank you for joining me, and as we get into governor gretchen whitmer, who rejects any notion of any sort of comfortable harris win in your state and saying do not get comfortable, you cannot sleep

on michigan. do you agree? how do you see the state of the race in michigan right now? >> i probably agree even more strongly than she does. i am scared. for a variety of reasons. i am not debbie downer, i am debbie determined this year and the governor and others agree with me on how tight we are. there was a cnn poll that showed her a few points up but the rest are showing this one point race, up or down and i'm in those union halls out and about and frankly i believe there are people that are trying to divide us. there are people trying to scare people about voting. i am very worried about what is happening in michigan. i am worried what could happen on election day and anybody, i will never be comfortable about michigan. what i'm worried about is --. >> tuesday's debate is the only face-off between the candidates at this point with harris

reportedly preparing crisp answers with her aides and trump, as in the past, not doing any traditional debate prep. what are the keys for victory, and will the vice president and off the insults and get across her vision for the country's future? >> i think she will. i think she is preparing for this, she knows who he is. i hope that people are going to watch this debate, that they do a comparison that they understand what each of these two stand for, and the differences between the two. we also know that the debate can make a difference. we saw how this presidential election -- by one debate. so this is obviously a very important evening. -- she's going to have to stay calm and show who she is and quite frankly, show how she will act under pressure as

president. >> in the new "new york times" at siena college poll, 28% of likely voters said they need to know about harrisburg only 9% said that about trump. -- for both candidates, so how detailed should harris get with policy, in this debate forum? should she press trump on his details, which are typically sketchy at best. >> his details are not only sketchy, but i think a very good issue for her to talk to him about is what is his stance on a woman's right to make her own health care decisions. i've never in my history, and i'm not old but i am seasons, i have never seen one person have so many days on a given day, let alone -- but she needs to talk about people. she is different from joe biden. not only in energy, but a lot

of people are more concerned about some of the things that have happened. biden significantly contributed -- during covid about what laid the ground for some of the things we are dealing with now and she has a show who she is, and how she's going to respond. they both do. donald trump can reaffirm who he is and remind people. >> specific to responses, trumps incoherent comments about childcare reportedly has the harris campaign hoping she can promote similar responses from trump during this debate. but harris is tied to the biden administration's policies and how challenging is it for her to walk the line between defending the administration policies, and still sticking out her own proposals? >> this is -- she is a loyal

person and i'm one of those people that think loyalty matters in this world. start there. and by the way, we all voted for a lot of the bills that made the difference. the bipartisan infrastructure bill that inflation reduction act, the lowering of prescription costs. i don't agree with joe biden on everything. you probably don't agree with the vice president on everything but she needs to show people, what direction she's going to take the country and and i think she's --. the economy is the number one issue that i hear and people want to know how she will continue to fight inflation and how she will make sure they will have jobs and afford groceries and affordable housing. she made affordable housing one of the first issues. >> debbie determined, a.k.a. michigan congresswoman debbie dingell. thank you for joining us. what donald trump said about women and and why recent polls suggest otherwise, plus

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and he's the felon. it is the perfect case. >> at the end of the day he's going to stay the same person but i might see my wallet grow and save a little bit of money. in the long run, thinking the economy might be helped out with this president even though he does sometimes not show the best personal aspect. >> gen z voters speaking with nbc's savannah sellers about what is driving their boat as donald trump and kamala harris repaired a face-off of the first time in tuesday's debate. joining me now, cricket media vice presidential local strategy and political commentator and former republican, ashley pratt. good to see you both. shaniko, an nbc news stay tuned poll found half of the registered voters under 30 would vote for kamala harris while a third would vote for donald trump and i know that sounds pretty good but president biden had a bigger gen z lead in 2020. what does harris need to do on tuesday to win back more of the gen z vote? >> i think she's going to have to do what she's been doing.

she's really been listening to the policies that are important to people. she has come out with a housing policy, to make affordable housing and to have more housing in general and that is one of the biggest issues one people continue to bring up as something important to them. and when she's on the debate stage and as she continues to go throughout the country and these battleground states that the debate, have to keep driving home that she is really focus on housing. she's really focus on cost of living because those are the things that are important to young people and she does have some ground to make up in getting back to where biden was in 2020 but she's doing better than he was in 2024, which is really important. she's making the right strides and the right direction. >> ashley, that poll found voters under the age of 30 rank inflation, cost of living, among biggest worries. we go into the details of what

we are hearing from shaniqua. it is far ahead of abortion, democracy and health care. will harris or trump be more likely to answer the economic concerns on tuesday? >> i think harris knows she's not only has to define herself and her policies and how americans would be better off across all ages, all demographics, all political parties, if she were to be president. and i think that is where she has a big disadvantage, only because she's been in the race for a shorter amount of time. in the time she has been in the race, i think because trump hasn't been able to land any definition of her yet, she's been largely defined by the biden administration's so she really does need to show voters where she stands on the issues. when it comes to the economy, that is the one issue that does transcend political and party lines. and i think it is important that she talks about again, how she and her presidency would allow for americans to be better off. and i think shaniqua mentioned, cost of education, cost of housing and what she would do as president to address those issues.

and i think she has the policies and plans in place to be able to do that and it is just a matter of coming through trumps nonsense on that stage, to get the positions heard, which i think she will be able to successfully do on tuesday. >> let's take a listen to donald trump when he says women love him. let's take a listen to that. >> somebody said, women don't like donald trump. i said i think that's wrong. i think they love me. i love them. >> the washington post reports today, that is not what polls show ashley, could donald trump's latest comments on reproductive rights, on ivf for example, quibec well some concerns about his presidency or not? >> no, women bomb be fooled about what trump has said and that is why they are voting for harris this november and will continue. i think those numbers will go out. at this point i think trump can say whatever he's going to say but women won't fall for it and his policies don't live.

and j.d. vance' -- dances policies don't live. and it was not clear what donald trump was saying about childcare and j.d. vance has made it clear he believes women should stay at home and/or have grandparents help, which is not something that is realistic for many americans including myself. childcare is a huge cost for my own family and it is something we will be paying attention to when it comes to the debate stage tuesday night. again, there's one party that has addressed the issue and really try to help american families and that is the democrats, on the issue of child care. >> should harris lean into abortion-rights? what should the main focus be? >> i think people are pretty clear on where each of the candidates, at least where she stands. donald trump has gone back and forth but i think she should spend a little bit of time on it. point out his inconsistencies. point out his actions speak louder than his words. he said he would appoint

justices to overturn roe and that is what he did and that is what happened. but also point out the fact he's trying to have it both ways. is trying to guess light everyone into believing, not everyone, those of us who support abortion access, that he's never been one of the biggest advocates for overturning roe and even on ivf, he is saying he will have the government or insurance companies pay for ivf treatments, which are really expensive. but this has angered people on the far right. and you know, in response to that, he shifted back over and said he's going to -- he said in florida, his home state, they have a six-week abortion ban and he said that is too short and have the opportunity to vote for a ballot measure, that would do away with a six- week abortion ban, but he's not going to vote for it, which makes it really hard to believe he would not support a national abortion ban if it came over his desk. i think she should lean in it enough, two point those things out to people, but most voters know where each of them

truthfully stand on the issue. >> i'm going to ask about this question. ashley, you first. what do you think the wednesday morning headline will be? >> that is a good question. i think that it will be that harris has reached her goal of reaching those undecided voters by making sure that her policy positions have come through on the debate stage, because that should be the number one goal. making sure that even though it is a small part of the electorate is the most critical part of the electorate come november and that is what she needs to focus on. so i really hope that is what the headline is going to be, that she has made headway with undecided voters. >> we will listen and to your point they say donald trump gets 46, 37% no matter what say you make a good point about the small number and the electorate of undecided. but lastly, shaniqua, what are your thoughts about what will be leading the headlines on wednesday? >> i think a quick headline might be that mice present kamala harris shatters the ceiling that has been in her

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