because maybe they were expecting inflation to come in hotter. that may have led to a more severe interest rate cut which we're expecting to be smaller. we have to see when they next meet next week. >> something is better than nothing, i think a lot of americans will say. thank you, brian, for bringing us the latest. that is good news, inflation finally dropping more and more. brian cheung, thank you so much. that's going to do it for us today. i'll see you back here tomorrow, same time, same place. i'm ana cabrera, jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. good morning. 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. right now in new york city, crowds have gathered to mark 23 years since the september 11th terror attacks. president biden, vice president harris, former president trump,

and senator j.d. vance were all at ground zero earlier to remember the lives lost. vice president harris and trump shook hands this morning, just hours after going head to head in last night's presidential debate. the big event marked the first time the candidates met face to face, and the gloves quickly came off. >> i'm going to invite you to attend one of donald trump's rallies. because it's a really interesting thing to watch. what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom. and i will tell you, the one thing you will not hear him talk about is you. >> so she just started by saying she's going to do this, she's going to do that, she's going to do all of these wonderful things. why hasn't she done it? she's been there for three and a half years. they have had three and a half years to fix the border. they have had three and a half years to create jobs, and all the things we talked about. why hasn't she done it? >> joining us now, nbc's dasha

burns live from philadelphia, and nbc's shaquille brewster is in michigan this morning. so, dasha, how are both campaigns feeling about last night's debate? >> well, look, jose, for the harris team, they are feeling good today. they felt like she accomplished the goal, certainly the goal of baiting trump. she did go for it multiple times in that debate, something his team is frustrated with this morning. not only that, she got an endorsement from one of the biggest celebrities in the world, taylor swift last night, and they felt like she accomplished what she set out to do. some of the criticism of harris's performance is maybe she spent a little bit too much time going after trump, and not enough time getting into the details of her policies. on the other side, for the former president, he did take the bait, and that's something that behind the scenes. the operatives i have been talking to are frustrated with. you can see the facts in the aftermath of the former

president going to the spin room, which traditionally in politics, you don't do unless you don't feel like you did well enough in the debate. now claiming he's willing to do another debate, now saying maybe not so much. and he and his team has spent a lot of the day and a lot of last night going after the moderators, going after the network, rather, than talking about their candidate's performance, which i think is pretty telling, jose. >> did the debate change the minds of people who were undecided, do you think? >> reporter: just based on some interactions with folks. i have been here since yesterday. i followed up with folks. there has been movement on folks who are undecided or soft supporters of one candidate or the other. a lot of that moving in the direction of the vice president, but, you know, one thing that i have picked up on, and dasha referenced it there is that there are plenty of people who said they wanted to hear a little bit more. they understood why they couldn't get into the detail.

there were time constraints. they wanted to hear a little bit more. one mom told me she wanted to hear more about child care and the $6,000 tax credit that vice president harris is talking about, and another person, i want you to listen to this 26-year-old named elizabeth who brought up the war in gaza and the conversation that she heard on the debate stage. listen to how she put it. >> i'm from deerborn, so when it came to the genocide happening in palestine, and the comments from both former president trump and kamala harris, i kind of wish they elaborated more on their opinions, but obviously that's a very touchy subject, but also they talked a lot about russia and ukraine. i'm 50% ukrainian. i have family over in ukraine, so hearing trump talk a lot about, well, president putin, he's my homey, that made me nervous. my decision hasn't changed, it's taking the lesser of two evils in this situation. >> who's that for you? >> it would be kamala harris for

sure. >> reporter: now, to be clear, those who told me before or told me today that they were supporting the former president before yesterday's debate have not said anything has changed for them, even though one gentleman said the talk about the dogs was weird to him but at the end of the day, they said their vote is locked in. the pattern i continue to see is among the undecideds, there's movement toward harris, and leaning toward harris. they are more proud of that decision. more proud of the way that they were feeling before this debate, which can matter and can have an impact, especially in these key battleground states, jose. >> and, you know, one of those battle ground states, early voting ballots will go out in pennsylvania in just five days, a must win state for both candidates. how are these campaigns going to make the next eight weeks count? >> reporter: look, they're going to hit the pavement really hard

in the next several weeks. we know the former president is doing a west coast swing. harris is doing more of that introducing herself to voters, as she started last night. shaq still needs a little bit more. she's got the shortest campaign window in a very long time. how she capitalizes on that will be critical in the coming days. she's got momentum coming out of the debate. now she needs to execute on it. and voters are looking to learn more about her. as for the former president, it's about riling up the enthusiasm for her base. candidates need to appeal to swing voters, but also make sure their base is turning out, and that's the sort of parallel focus that both needs to have, especially in places like pennsylvania. debates might move the needle here or there, and the immediate aftermath. people might forget what they saw last night. now it's time to meet them where

they are, on the ground, and get people out to the polls, and get them to vote by mail, vote early, as pennsylvania is about to do. >> shaquille brewster and dasha burns, thank you so much rchgs -- thank you so much. 23 years since the terrorist attacks that claimed the lives of 3,000 people at the world trade center in shanksville, pennsylvania. right now, ground zero in new york, family members are reading the names of the victims. at the pentagon, joint secretary austin joined for an observance center in arlington, virginia, and moments ago, former president trump and j.d. vance visited a fire station in lower manhattan, where they met with first responders after attending the ceremony at ground zero. joining us now, nbc's stephanie gosk, at ground zero, and mike memoli is in shanksville, pennsylvania, at the site of the flight 93 memorial.

stephanie, how did today's ceremony? >> reporter: you know, jose, this ceremony for the past 23 years has unfolded basically the same way. it is little change, and it includes a number of things that have become a marker in time for people to commemorate the day, six moments of silence, as well as families reading the names of people who have died, that we see pictures of here. 23 years ago at this time right now, the towers were in rubble, the pentagon was in flames. there was a plane down in shanksville, pennsylvania. the scope of the tragedy was coming into focus, and the purpose of the ceremony, having it in the morning at the same time that the attack occurred is to remind people of the event, but now that we are so many years out, it is also about sharing the story with a new generation. on hand today in attendance, you had president joe biden, vice president kamala harris, former

president donald trump as well as vice presidential candidate j.d. vance. they were standing basically next to each other, separated only by former mayor mike bloomberg. they have all left. the former president went to the fire house. the president and vice president will be in shanksville where mike memoli is. i can tell you that the early morning hours here in lower manhattan, there is a solemnity, there always is, especially when the weather is like this, it instantly reminds people of what it felt like to be here that day. >> and, mike, meanwhile, how is this day being commemorated there? >> reporter: we're seeing relatives of the victims of flight 93 return to the impact site, where flight 93 came crashing down here in a field in a peaceful, serene location here at 10:05 a.m. 23 years ago. this was after quite a moving

ceremony where each of the 40 names was read and a set of bells rang to honor those who were lost. some of those names being read by the relatives of the victims. what struck me is some of the comments made by the superintendent of the site, reflecting on stephanie reflected on as well. we certainly began in realtime to hear about the heroism of the 33 passengers, the 7 flight crew on flight 93 who were able to fight back, and bring a void, and an even worse disaster as the plane was heading to washington, d.c. the superintendent of the site noted that for an entire new generation, this is something that we're only learning about. and as part of that, there was a virtual opportunity for students, more than 20,000 students across the country to participate in this service event. they can learn that story as

well. as stephanie refers to, we will see president biden, vice president harris, and former president trump come here. this will be the fourth time president biden has come to the site twice as vice president, twice as president, and the second time for vice president harris as well, jose. >> important to never forget. stephanie gosk and mike memoli, thank you both so very much. we'll hear from more undecided voters about whether last night's debate changed anything for them. we'll fact check the claims about immigration, migrants in ohio were eating people's pets, and we're tracking hurricane francine, due to make landfall in louisiana soon. we'll ask our own bill karins about the life threatening conditions expected there. we're back in 90 seconds. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. a. . i need indeed.

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from ohio and msnbc political analyst. chuck, what was your take away from last night? >> it was the same thing we had for nine years. donald trump is the center of attention. donald trump made sure the debate was about donald trump. kamala harris made sure the debate was about donald trump, and there we are. it was, if you're the harris folks, they couldn't have scripted everything any better. you do wonder what would have happened if trump didn't sort of take all the bait, but we have been playing the what if trump acted like a normal republican candidate for years now. we know that that's never going to be the case. so it was astonishing, sort of almost how paint by numbers trump was on this. now, if you tuned into the debate, trying to learn more about kamala harris, i think you're left wanting, meaning you didn't get a lot of specifics out of here, but then again, at these debates because of how donald trump behaves, who he is, how he chases every squirrel, if

you will, down holes, it's sometimes hard to even communicate that. so it was a bad night for trump, but let's just put out a warning sign here. trump's not a good debater. he's got his clock cleaned at every general election debate he's participated in except one, and that was the one with joe biden, and it had very little ultimate impact on his support level. i would throw a little bit of caution to the wind on this. >> yeah, chuck, i was just thinking about just the experience i've had with you over the years. i mean, i remember when we were at the town hall that we carried out in las vegas with hillary clinton and bernie sanders and later of course the presidential -- the first democratic presidential debates in 2020 season. those ten candidates. what do you think was missing as far as just structure of debates? >> it's hard to structure when donald trump's involved, in

fairness to the debate moderators. do i wish there was sort of like, okay, we're going to focus on this issue, yeah, i do, but again, as much as i could sit here and say, well, you know, i'd of done it this way, you know, donald trump is this sort of -- he's just somebody that brings chaos to a situation. so i think any other set of candidates you would have wanted a more structured environment, let's spend the first ten minutes on inflation, the next ten on reproductive rights but that's not something that we have been doing in the world of donald trump. and i think that's the challenge in putting on any event that includes donald trump. >> alencia, what stood out to you from last night's debate? >> so many things stood out to me. vice president harris looked presidential. she commanded that stage last

night, in not only the way she delivered her vision for the future of america, this opportunity economy that is inclusive of everyone, even the way that she nonverbally showed up. she commanded the stage and the viewers from the moment she walked in, and actually forced donald trump into shake her handle, and, you know, the thing i appreciated is that what she was saying was her vision for america. she was talking about the plans around the economy, around abortion access, and yet her nonverbal communication is what showed us her reaction to donald trump. she was able to speak to us in two ways. i do think that donald trump was extremely rattled, right? at one point, he was the disruptive candidate, i would say in a negative way, the disruptive candidate in our presidential politics. vice president harris showed that she is actually the one that is disrupting this notion of who should be in leadership, who should be in power, and the reality is she has this broad

coalition that she was able to speak to all the way from, you know, progressive left to republicans who are tired of donald trump. and so i appreciate it, the way that she held her own in the debate, and i appreciate the moderators for correcting the record on some of the outlandish things he was saying particularly about eating dogs and cats and it was really helpful to see that, the two contrasts and the two choices that the american people have in the upcoming election. >> john, you know, you have been on both sides of the debate stage, right? and i'm just thinking, just the fact that you have to sit there and discuss whether people are eating dogs or not is just mind blowing, but it is what it is. i'm just thinking, what did you take away from the debate, john? >> well, i think it's a matter of who gains. did donald trump gain? of course not. he didn't gain last night. he was sort of a darkness that surrounded him, and comments

about, you know, eating dogs or whatever, i mean, just only out of trump, right. and sort of diminishes, you know, the former president. i mean, the presidency itself. i get nervous about that, but she definitely gained, and i agree with chuck, from the standpoint of she's gained, she's going to have to do a lot more. now the question is it's a follow up. she's going to, i believe she has to sit for more in-depth interviews, but she definitely put herself in a position where she can be viewed as a president, and she was very stable. she did a good job. not as many specifics as you would like. not enough explanation for some of her switches. in order to get people who are these undecided voters out there. trump has his people, and she has her people, there's a fight for the percentage that's still on the fence, and i think that the more she can appear, people will get more and more comfortable.

she now can win this election, without a doubt. >> and alencia, one of the things she was very specific on, clear and concise, is her attempts to hold the former president accountable for the patch work of abortion laws across the country. take a listen to this. >> you want to talk about this is what people wanted, pregnant women who want to carry a pregnancy to term suffering from a miscarriage, being denied care in an emergency room because the health care providers are afraid they might go to jail, and she's bleeding out in a car in the parking lot. she didn't want that. her husband didn't want that. a 12 or 13-year-old survivor of incest, being forced to carry a pregnancy to term. they don't want that. >> alencia, how do you think voters saw this? >> listen, as someone who has worked in the reproductive freedom movement, i worked at planned parenthood, she has been a champion, even before she

became senator, when she was attorney general, and voters are listening. they remember those stories, and it's not just democratic women, not just independent women, but republican women who are trying to find a home can hear themselves in that conversation. i do want to push back on this notion where everyone is talking about vice president harris. she gave numbers around the policies that she's believing will help the economy. she talked about abortion access. she was humanizing the issue, and it is really challenging that donald trump doesn't get the same smoke from the media and people who are saying what they want to hear more from vice president harris when he has never rolled out any policies, but he has, you know, cozied up with the people who created project 2025 who are going to have people monitoring women for the decisions about their bodies. and so vice president harris is giving us specifics, and it feels very much that the bar is higher for her given that she's a woman, and yet donald trump, the bar is so low, he gets to

skate on by with no specifics at all. he does a lot of media interviews but doesn't give specifics. she is completely disciplined. we saw that last night. i need the people paying attention to the election to start thinking critically, why aren't we asking donald trump the same questions about specifics that we're demanding of her. >> and, chuck, one issue where trump couldn't give specifics is if he would veto a national abortion ban if it reached his desk if he were reelected. >> would you veto a national abortion ban? >> i won't have to. >> if i could give a yes or no because your running mate, j.d. vance has said you would veto if it came to your desk. >> i didn't discuss it with j.d. in all fairness. i don't mind if he has a certain view. but i really didn't. look, we don't have to discuss

it. >> chuck, what's the theory or the political, i don't know, focus on this? >> look, i just want to step back. the moment -- i think that moment captured why joe biden couldn't beat donald trump, and why kamala harris can. joe biden couldn't utter the word abortion. couldn't say it. couldn't talk about it. she is put it in personal terms. she humanized it, and then she did a little bit of branding, which we're normally used to the right being successful at, and started calling it the trump abortion bans around the states, and that has the potential to be sticky. i think of all of the back and forth, this was the most substantiative, and this was a reminder, i think, why so many democrats were convinced biden didn't have what it took to win this campaign because you needed to make reproductive rights among the front and center

issues. he was uncomfortable speaking about it, you could tell. i'm just thinking about just the anecdotes she shared. joe biden never would have been able to bring himself to share that anecdote. on the specific, i cannot believe, among the biggest unforced errors of the night was trump's not letting that hang out there that he would not veto an abortion ban. frankly, it's sort of a cheap way out for him. could have been an easy way out for him to continue to muddle his position, and it's such a head scratcher, considering where he was ten days ago when it looked like he was trying to figure out how to try to come out against or come out for the abortion amendment and reproductive rights amount in florida, and suddenly his campaign team says all of your volunteers are going to quit overnight if you do this, and he reversed course. i think that moment, and his inability to promise he would veto an abortion ban, i think you're going to see that in more

ads than anything in the debate. >> before we go, if you could put into some kind of context, the whole issue, you're from ohio, right, and the whole thing that the former president went on and on about that migrants are eating people's pets. >> look, i think there's an extremism here on immigration that is just not frankly part of what the culture of america has been. and he's trying to stoke everybody's fears. it's part of the reason why i have never been a fan. it's this divisive nature, if i can lay this out and scare people, then we can make these folks who come here the enemy. we all know the border needs to be secured. we know that. but we also know that we've had a history of allowing immigrants to come into our country legally. in fact, when i was governor, i said, look, if anyone who wants to come here who's an immigrant,

we want you to come here. we want you to be part of our economy, be part of our culture, our society. so i think this is an extreme way to try to frighten people, and those claims to me, when i heard it, i couldn't believe it. my wife was in a another room, and she was like what is going on here. it's this effort to demonize anybody who comes into this country, and i think that's a sad state of affairs. >> chuck todd, alencia johnson, former governor john kasich, thank you for being with us this morning. hurricane francine swirling closer to the atlantic coast, how residents are preparing. trump says americans will not pay for the large tariffs he wants to impose if elected. what do economists think? you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. *te from morgan stanley,

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30 past the hour. we are following breaking news. this morning, hurricane francine is closing in on the louisiana coast, triggering a state of emergency as it's set to make landfall later today. right now residents there are bracing for heavy winds, heavy rain, and life threatening storm surge. joining us now, nbc's kathy park from baton rouge, louisiana, and meteorologist bill karins. what are conditions like this

hour? >> reporter: good morning to you. louisiana is bracing for the brunt of hurricane francine, as you mentioned it's expected to make landfall sometime this afternoon or this evening. right now, this is a preview of what's to come. light showers, the wind starting to kick up. but conditions will deteriorate over the next several hours. that's why they're encouraging people to stay off the roadways. in fact, we got an alert from new orleans officials saying 11:00 a.m. central time, people should be off the roads. the governor of louisiana has also encourages people to stay put after the storm passes so crews, first responders can go in and respond to emergencies. if they are required to respond to those, and also for utility crews to make repairs. the governor also mentioned that members of the national guard had been deployed, and they will be at the ready to respond. they have high water vehicles to

respond to any sort of emergencies on the ground, and of course this is something that we are monitoring very closely, jose. the big concern as you mentioned is flooding, with widespread flooding, especially in the coast communities that storm surge could reach up to 10 feet. here in baton rouge, the height of the storm, 50 to 70 miles per hour wind gusts. jose. >> kathy park, thank you very much. take care. let's talk about francine, possibly a cat 1, cat 2, where is it heading and all of those low lying areas that are in the way. >> yeah, that's going to be the big question is how do the low lying communities do towards the landfall and also how many trees are going to fall between baton rouge and new orleans. there's a big population corridor, and that's the area we're most likely to see the trees falling on power lines houses and cars. that can knock power out for days. the storm itself is now only

about seven, eight hours away from landfall. the time for doing all of those storm preps is ending. you can see the heavier rain bands are arriving on the coast too. we're going to keep our eye on morgan city too. that's the most likely small community that will go through the eye event or landfall center. it does look closer to baton rouge than new orleans, but new orleans you're on the dirty side of the storm. you have a chance for squalls going through that could produce isolated tornadoes. the landfall, 5:00 to 8:00 central time. it's not going to get stronger than it is right now. likely it will be a category 1 hurricane landfall. there's no backside to the storm. the wind will end and the rain should be over with. from new orleans, 3:00 to 11:00 p.m. that's the worst timing for everything in the new orleans area. by tomorrow morning, greatly improved. wind gusting up to 65. my rule of thumb is the winds get above 50. weak or dying trees can fall. that's where we start scattered

to isolated power. it weakened fast. do not expect, you know, really strong winds tomorrow morning at this time. i think it will be completely over with. this is the max wind gusts. my rule of thumb, you have the power outage potential. so new orleans to baton rouge, laplace, that's where we have the best chances of people going without power. southern louisiana, the levee system has been built over the years. money has been spent for good reasons because of past history. category 1, we do not expect towns and communities to get flooded. it's the small rural areas outside of the levee system. that's areas near morgan city. with any tropical system, we worry about the rainfall. if it rains hard enough, fast enough, we will get significant flash flooding between baton rouge and new orleans and the central portions of mississippi. the bad news is we have a hurricane about to make landfall. the good news is it's a minimal

category 1, mostly making landfall in a rural area. it's horrible for the residents that live there, but that does mean overall less damage. >> just the worst is going to be hitting in about eight hours, you're saying, but people there should start feeling some pretty heavy, as you say, tree knocking winds about seven, six hours from now. >> on the coast, we could see tree limbs and power outages in the next two, three hours, from new orleans to baton rouge. that will more or less be later this afternoon. >> bill karins, thank you very much. really appreciate it. up next, former president trump claims violent crime is through the roof here in the united states, and migrants are to blame. any truth to that? we're going to fact check that for you. plus, undecided voters tell us whether last night's debate will sway them at the ballot box. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. e diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. d.

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to our country and when you look at these millions and millions of people that are pouring into our country monthly where it's, i believe, 21 million people, not the 15 that people say, they allowed terrorists, they allowed common street criminals. crime in this country is through the roof, and we have a new form of crime. it's called migrant crime. they have destroyed the fabric of our country. millions of people let in. a lot of these illegal immigrants coming in, they're trying to get them to vote. >> joining us now is nbc's homeland security correspondent julia ainsley. julia, it's kind of difficult what all of these statements, you know, dogs, and cats and parakeets and whatever, let's talk about what the former president consistently says, which is that, you know, immigrants are the source of crime, you know, it's a term, migrant crime.

can you kind of help us through this? >> yeah, i mean, it's a thing of where do we begin. i'm happy to unpack all of that. we can talk about springfield as well. when he's talking about the migrants coming in, he's saying like 20 million migrants have come in. that's false. when you look at the data every month, the customs and border protection, publishing the stats through the bush administration, they say that about 10 million undocumented migrants have come in through the northern and southern borders, and includes people who present themselves for asylum, and those that present themselves legally through a port of entry. 20 million, it's unclear where he's getting that and why he decided to double the number. >> let's get into the numbers. so 10 million are the estimated amount of people that have come in just in the last three and a half years. and that doesn't include what, you know, they call the get aways, right, the folks that have simply come in, and we

don't know how many. >> sure. yeah, and it's hard to count people who you don't see obviously, and it could be that there are more people who are evading apprehension, especially under the new asylum laws. i fail to get into the question you asked me about crime. as we looked across the country. fbi crime stats say crime has come downdramatically over the last year. some cities are not included in the fbi check like new york. that is also a city that has reported locally that they have had a drop in crime. i will say when we talk about migrant crime, even though overall crime in the country is down, and we know that u.s. citizens commit more crimes per capita, than undocumented migrants. there are areas of concern. from venezuela that has spread into the united states committing crimes in new york and denver and elsewhere where there have been large venezuelan populations, over 100 open investigations by homeland

security investigations into that gang. there's also been a number of arrests from people who they believe may have terrorism connections. all of that is being put through the justice system. people are being arrested and deported. we do need to talk about that and not say there's no migrant crime. of course these things happen. it's a matter of looking at the data, and when trump says it's at a level never seen before, that is false. >> so what about the whole dog story? >> we've got to get into that of course. first of all, i haven't heard any reports of dogs. that was the first time i heard about that last night. in springfield, ohio, there has been a large influx of haitian migrants, and a lot of people said they saved the town. they were anyone to come in and do a lot of jobs. they needed demand for more housing that comes. at a city council meeting, someone stood up and said they saw a man eating a duck in the park. the city manager says they have no evidence to back that up.

there's another video that's circulated. i just got off the phone with a haitian bridge alliance there, the largest advocates for haitian immigrants in the united states. they say a lot of this started about the cat, a video of an african-american woman, not a haitian migrant in springfield that was having a mental health break, eating a cat. i can't believe what i'm saying here, but none of that is tied to the haitian migrants, and she says it's dehumanizing to talk about this having to do with haitian migrants, and it's one more thing that this community has to deal with as they try to boost the economy of the town. >> julia ainsley, thank you very much. and just on a personal note, if you ever want to see a hard working, honest, extraordinarily beneficial group of people, meet the haitian community in the united states. julia, thank you. up next, the economy is the top issue for most voters.

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three years. dominic chu is with us this morning. this is a week before the federal reserve meets to discuss rates. how could today's report impact that? >> it impacted the interest rate story overall, at least from the market's perspective. what we are seeing is a broader-based sell-off on the markets. the dow is down at one point over 700 points. that has to do with not the lowest yearly inflation number since february of 2021, but a slightly hotter than expected month over month inflation read if you strip out the more volatile food and energy components. that has caused many traders to reassess what the fed will do next week. the consensus is still an interest rate cut. that's priced out there. now, what it is, jose, it's the likelihood priced in is tilted more towards a smaller, quarter

percentage point than more aggressive half point that some traders were pricing in. >> let's talk about some of the things that were said about the economy during last night's debate. here is what donald trump had to say when asked if consumers would pay more under his plan to impose tariffs on foreign goods. >> they're not going to have higher prices. who will have higher prices is china and all the countries that have been ripping us off for years. i was the only president ever, china was paying us hundreds of billions of dollars and so were other countries. >> if you would explain to us. there are some tariffs against china that trump put into place that are still in place. what exactly does tariffs do for the consumer, in this case in the united states? >> it's a good point. it's nuanced. when prices go higher, somebody

ultimately has to pay for it. somebody will. when tariffs are imposed by the u.s. government, it's the importers who bring in those foreign goods that cut the check, so to speak. it's more nuanced than that. let's say a u.s. retailer imports stuff. it can either pass some or all of those tariff costs on to the consumer, resulting in higher prices. or not pass any to the consumer and eat the cost itself. but here is the other part. if a company has a lot of pricing power, it can try to negotiate lower prices from the foreign manufacturers themselves. it all depends how that equation ends up working on. >> thank you so much. great seeing you. turning now to mexico where protests erupted yesterday as lawmakers debated a controversial bill that will change the country's judicial system. demonstrators -- here are some

pictures -- breached the senate chamber. forcing lawmakers to move to a different building to vote on the bill, which passed overnight. u.s. officials warn it could pose a, quote, major risk to mexico's democracy by giving the governing party almost total power and control over the judiciary. up next, undecided voters will be crucial in picking our next president. kate snow watched the debate in pennsylvania. datebe in pennsylvania (♪♪) looking good, guys! thanks! vacations are better with the credit gods are on your side. i'm coming up! rewards once available to the few are now accessible to the many. earn points for travel with credit one bank, and live large. life has twists and curls. but you define them and make them bounce. tresemme flawless curls defining mousse. 24 hour. hydrating curl definition.

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i do. >> is there a but? >> there is a but. i don't think that she has actual policies that are going to be effective. >> do i like either? am i happy about going and pushing the button or writing it down? absolutely not. >> to be clear, they say they are going to vote. they are still, after last night, very torn about it. even lynn who she heard good things from harris, said she might have to vote on the economy and for her that means potentially voting for donald trump, even though she was really disturbed by some of the things he said last night in terms of his conscience. it was really interesting talking to these three. they were looking for policy. they were interested in, for example, the abortion discussion. they got into that. they are not sure what they will do. bucks county is an interesting

place. it's a place that has voted blue the last couple cycles. it went for biden. it went for hillary clinton by less. now there are more registered republicans in that county for the first time in a lot of years. they have more registered republicans. that would bode well for trump. it's one of the swing places that could decide the fate of pennsylvania, which could decide the fate of the country. >> indeed. kate snow, a pleasure to see you. >> great to see you. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can reach me on social media. you can watch clips from our show on youtube. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," kamala harris nails her presidential debate debut, rattling donald trump with calculated takedowns. >> donald trump was fired by 81 million people. let's be