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the last couple cycles. it went for biden. it went for hillary clinton by less. now there are more registered republicans in that county for the first time in a lot of years. they have more registered republicans. that would bode well for trump. it's one of the swing places that could decide the fate of pennsylvania, which could decide the fate of the country. >> indeed. kate snow, a pleasure to see you. >> great to see you. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can reach me on social media. you can watch clips from our show on youtube. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," kamala harris nails her presidential debate debut, rattling donald trump with calculated takedowns. >> donald trump was fired by 81 million people. let's be clear about that.
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clearly, he is having a very difficult time processing that. world leaders are laughing at donald trump. i have talked with military leaders, some worked with you. they say you are a disgrace. what you will notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom. >> in springfield, they are eating the dogs. people that came in, they are eating the cats. they are eating the pets of the people that live there. >> just minutes later with a huge endorsement from the biggest crossover celebrity, taylor swift, signing off as a childless cat lady. the first and possibly only debate highlighted included harris on women's reproductive health. >> one does not have to abandon their faith or deeply held beliefs to agree the government and donald trump certainly should not be telling a woman
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what to do with her body. >> the former president lashing out at the democrats. >> i probably took a bullet to the head because of the things that they say about me. they talk about democracy. i'm a threat to democracy. they are the threat to democracy. >> heading to the spin room to do his own post-debate cleanup. >> did she upset you when she talked about the crowds? when -- >> i have the biggest crowds anyone had. her crowds are fake. >> today at ground zero, a moment of civility from both sides with the candidates shaking hands as america honors the thousands lost on 9/11. later this hour, we will be live in shanksville, pennsylvania, where president biden will participate in a wreath laying ceremony. ♪♪
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good day, everyone. the day after. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. vice president kamala harris taking charge from the moment she walked out on the stage. catching donald trump off guard by walking towards him with an outstretched hand. the first face to face since he refused to attend the biden-harris inaugural in 2017. her campaign saying, she planned it -- excuse me, in 2021. her campaign saying that she planned it all to put him on defense. then bait him into going off message. >> people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom. i will tell you, the one thing you will not hear him talk about is you. you will not hear him talk about your needs, your dreams, and your desires. >> people don't leave my rallies. we have the biggest rallies, most incredible rallies in history of politics. people want to take their country back. >> world leaders are laughing at donald trump.
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>> orban said the most feared person is donald trump. we had no problems when trump was president. >> it's very well-known that donald trump is weak and wrong on national security and foreign policy. it's well-known that he admires dictators, wants to be a dictator on day one, according do himself. it's well-known that these dictators and autocrats are rooting for you to be president again because they are so clear, they can manipulate you with flattery and favors. >> one trump ally telling nbc news, the former president lost his cool and ended up repeating that baseless conspiracy theory about haitian migrants eating pets in ohio. trump is calling the debate rigged. attacking the moderators by saying it was three against one. walking back the possibility of showing up for a second debate. in a rare move after the debate, trump personally came to the
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spin room to defend his own performance, telling me, it was a great night. >> i think abc is the worst. despite that, it was a great evening. >> among harris surrogates on the floor last night, governor roy cooper. >> it was exciting to see how she took every single issue, threw it back on him, and showed what was good for the american people. >> do you think he scored points on the economy or immigration? >> he has no plan. he has no plan. that was pretty clear. >> after the debate, harris reminding supporters at a watch party that their work is just beginning in a race that's still tied. >> okay. today was a good day. we got to work tomorrow. we have 56 days to go. we got a lot of work to do. we are still the underdogs in this race. it's tight. we have got to win pennsylvania.
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we are going to win pennsylvania! >> we begin with monica alba. nbc's chief political analyst chuck todd. nbc correspondent garrett haake who is following the trump campaign and phil rucker. monica, harris expertly used the split screen last night, something that joe biden did not do in that first debate, to show her reactions. the format was not necessarily going to give her a chance to fact check at length or rebut him. how is the campaign feeling today, especially with that big endorsement from taylor swift? >> reporter: they are pretty pleased. i have to tell you, they feel like the preparation paid off. the vice president took this really seriously. she did study everything that donald trump had said are a tore -- rhetorically. she had gotten input from people
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like hillary clinton about using the strategy to try and bait him. she was shying he would try to bait her. instead, she was the one who really did that first. we saw several examples, several exchanges that were key from the debate last night. that's exactly what she was able to do successfully. in terms of the people i spoke with last night and this morning, they were very happy with the results. they feel like some of the larger answers on abortion, reproductive freedom, on january 6, some of the things that she had been talking about at times in terms of how she wanted to prosecute the case against donald trump, they felt like those were breakthrough moments in less than a minute. they are very happy with how that went last night. then i'm told according to campaign officials, they were not in the loop on the fact that taylor swift was going to post that endorsement on instagram.
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when that happened moments after she wrapped up, what they viewed as a successful evening, they felt like that punctuate aid decisive victory and adds to her momentum and her ability to attract support from -- if you look at the last week or so, everybody from one of the world's biggest pop stars to former vice president republican dick cheney, liz cheney. now she can, in terms of the moments last night on the debate stage, perhaps appeal to everybody in between who had questions about her record, who wondered whether she was going to detail policies and proposals. there's things she did sidestep as voters want to see. the campaign is aware of that. they feel like the pressure is off a little bit. she can start to do that and maybe she will do more media interviews, something else they have been under the gun to do. >> garrett, donald trump -- you talked to him in the spin room. he landed some blows last night.
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especially when he turned harris' words from past debates against her. >> she was big on de-fund the police. i'm talking now. if you don't mind, please. does that sound familiar? >> garrett, she also missed an opportunity -- donald trump missed several opportunities to focus on his issues, immigration, the economy. using orban, the hungarian dictator to try to defend himself against accusations he is pro-putin and against ukraine, there were so many moments. >> the trump campaign wanted to tie kamala harris to the most liberal past positions she took. trump's biggest supporters will say he left points on the board. >> is he credible to call her a marxist? >> is it trump? yes. this is where i'm going. he hit her on the things they wanted to hit her on.
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they tied her to joe biden, to some of the liberal positions. he was trump. there are things where he is not going to change. orban comes up in every rally and every interview. of course trump was going to bring him up. there was no way to be prepped out of him. the idea he wouldn't chase her on crowd size. they are there's so much they can do to keep him in a narrower lane than the person he always is. that's what voters got to see last night. that's the unfiltered trump. some people think that's good for him. the harris campaign thinks it's good for them. the broad consensus when i talked to trump supporters, trump allies, trump staff is that there is more he could have done. there will be a hot debate in trump world about whether they want do this again with another debate. >> preparation matters. lindsey graham of all people was criticizing the preppers, the way so many biden supporter --
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>> he was upset about the foreign policy. i think that was his frustration over the former president's inability to say he wanted ukraine to win the war. knowing where his one track mind is, i would say this with respect to senator graham, i think -- >> that's trump. >> that's what i would say. typical, you can't attack the leader. who do you attack? the two easy marks. >> monica, you know the state department under clinton. he had no relationship with kamala harris before this. he had done -- he played donald trump for hillary debates. basically, in the communication once she took over as the nominee with hillary. he stepped in. he was getting great praise for
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the way he played donald trump last night. >> reporter: what he does through this process is he really tries to inhabit and embody donald trump down to the outfit, the suit, the tie, the lifts, the makeup. he did that like he did for hillary clinton in 2016. that, i'm told, is something they felt was an effective tool in getting kamala harris ready for this debate last night. she had never met donald trump in person or spent time with him. it's one thing to study game film. it's another to do those pretend exchanges with someone who is trying to be donald trump in the room. i'm told by people that there were questions last night and exchanges that took place that were almost exactly what they had anticipated and prepared for and thought would come up. she felt very well equipped to handle them. i think that was something where they learned that from joe
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biden's debate prep and camp that there was this sense of needing to prepare and perhaps many people who said he clearly didn't prepare in the right way, given his poor performance. but she approached it as a prosecutor, preparing for trial. said, i don't really believe in not doing that level of preparation. that's why they enlisted him to do what he did and play his part. >> one other preparer was cameron dunne, who is a prominent defense lawyer. she had been on the e. jean carroll case, the legal team. most recently she was involved with the google team this week. she was a big factor also, someone new to the world. garrett, there's a new post from donald trump just now. >> donald trump on truth social posting about the possibility of another debate, which we were discussing. he writes in part -- let me bring it up. t -- let me
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bring it up. on the polls, he is talking about twitter polls by right wing news sites. >> it's not a poll. >> this is a complete reversal from donald trump who had previously pre-agreed to any time, any place, anywhere. on abc, nbc, fox. now he is walking that back. it's a complete and total reversal of his position on this. i do think if you made me bet on it, trump will be goaded into participating into another debate because the stakes of not showing up will be very hard for him to -- >> i believe that -- i would never have put him up against her. the only way to convince him not to do it is to make him think he
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won. how much do you think the campaign team is trying to tell him, you were great? you don't need to do this again. if they hint he wasn't good, then he might do this again. it wouldn't be -- he doesn't know how to do this. >> let me bring in phil rucker. you wrote two books on donald trump. what's on his mind today? is he going to be pressured into another debate? >> i think chuck hit on something. i think that's right that knowing trump, the way to get him to debate is to convince him he lost and he needs the rematch to regain whatever momentum he has had. i think it partly depends on whether the harris camp is willing to do something with fox news. that seemed to be something trump was open to just a couple hours ago, this morning. we will see where the negotiations go. clearly, trump i think is rattled by the kamala harris that he saw on stage last night. he has never faced an opponent that crisp in his or her
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prosecution of his record as she was last night and did not seem very well prepared for it. >> in fact, the time count shows that abc, which did allow fact checking, they did their own, they allowed some. they were showing flexibility. they gave him five more minutes to rebut that she did not have. if you look at the clock. chuck, final point? >> she would gladly have given five more minutes. it's fascinating to me that -- how the harris campaign has decided to take trump on. belittle him, make him small. he is not that menacing figure that is threatening to destroy america the way joe biden was painting him or to even hillary clinton. this is borrowing a page from how obama dealt with donald trump. obama never actually faced him in a campaign. but it was a belittling. it was the gary busey shot and this stuff. this stuff does get under his skin. he can't handle it.
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we are seeing him. this is why -- if i were in the -- i would not put him up against her again. the abortion contrast alone -- that's the most important thing about the debate. >> he disagreed with j.d. vance. >> he gave that unforced error. joe biden could have never done what kamala harris did. that's why joe biden couldn't win this election. >> he is uncomfortable with the issue. >> she said what she said, talking about humaniing it. joe biden could utter the words abortion ban. >> gender helped. garrett haake, chuck todd, monica alba and phil rucker, thanks to all of you. congressional reaction from the debate and how the harris campaign goes forward as they work to sway swing voters. this was how governor tim walz reacted in real time to the news live on msnbc of the taylor
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swift endorsement. >> i'm casting my vote for kamala harris and tim walz in the 2024 presidential election. i have to get your response to that, mr. governor. >> all those things i am incredibly grateful to taylor swift. i say that as a fellow cat owner. ne w grandpa moment... ...to that whatever this is moment... your moments are worth protecting against rsv. if you're 75 or older, or 60 or older with certain chronic conditions. you're at higher risk of being hospitalized from rsv. and there are no prescription rsv treatments. you have options. ask your doctor about pfizer's rsv vaccine. because moments like these matter.
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confidently than we ever saw president biden on an issue he wasn't comfortable with. mr. trump praising the supreme court for overturning roe v. wade and sending the issue back to the states even after wavering on where he stands on abortion restrictions and on a total ban. >> this is an issue that has torn our country apart for 52 years. every legal scholar, every democrat, every republican, liberal, conservative, they wanted this issue to be brought back to the states where the people could vote. >> you want to talk about what this is what people wanted? pregnant women who want to carry a pregnancy to term suffering from a miscarriage, being denied care in an emergency room because the health care providers are afraid they might go to jail and she's bleeding out in a car in the parking lot? she didn't want that. her husband didn't want that. a 12 or 13-year-old survivor of incest, being forced to carry a
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pregnancy to term? they don't want that. >> joining me now is democratic congresswoman jasmine crocket. welcome. it's great to see you. texas was ground zero on abortion restrictions. >> absolutely. >> all the protests for years before dobbs. what chuck todd was saying as you were walking in was that there was -- kamala harris on the abortion issue is so different than joe biden. unlike other men, he just is of a generation and a background that he was never comfortable talking about abortion and certainly not with the empathy of his vice president. >> this is an issue that the vice president has always taken as hers. this is something she was out on the campaign trail making sure that women felt comfortable with this administration going forward knowing that they would
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fight to preserve their rights. when you talk about texas being ground zero, it wasn't that texas was ground zero, it's still ground zero. in january, the republicans in texas plan to introduce a measure to bring about the death penalty as it relates to abortion. unlike what donald trump said, which we know he is a liar, alternative facts, we did not want the dobbs decision to take place. we did not want the overturning of roe. what is so sad is that roe v. wade is a dallas, texas, case. henry wade was the district attorney in my district. here it is, texas has a rich history of giving women their rights. now texas history is going the other way. when the vice president says we won't go back, that's exactly what she means. we won't go back to these repressive policies. not every state has an opportunity to actually put this to a vote.
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if texas could, we would. but we don't have that opportunity. >> joe biden today tweeted out with, we won't go back. picking up her phrase. he is all in. which is significant. >> it is. >> the way he eased her to the nomination. she couldn't have had it that easily without -- >> he has been phenomenal. another thing that trump said that i thought was funny was that president biden doesn't like her. i was like, where is this coming from? he just talked out the side of his mouth. you can tell that they actually have a real affection for one another. number one, they have been on the trail together. you have seen their interactions. you have seen them embrace one another. she calls him family. they are a family. unlike j.d. vance and donald trump, who is like, yeah, we haven't talked about this. how is it that you are trying to assure american women that you are going to be the best
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administration for them and you fail to talk to your vice presidential nominee about the issue of abortion? that makes no sense. either you are lying and you actually did talk to him, or you just are making up something else again. >> there was another moment like that where he was pressing her on health care. then when she asked where his plan is, he said, we have a concept. i want to ask you about donald trump's false claim last night that immigrants, haitian immigrants are eating people's dogs and cats in ohio. it was a conspiracy theory. it's not true. i ask republican congressman donalds about that. he is a surrogate for donald trump. i want your reaction on the other side. >> what did you think about him saying that pets are being eaten by immigrants? >> i don't care about that. >> shouldn't people worry about these things? >> i want to be clear on this. that is a very minor issue happening in the united states.
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>> it's not happening. that's the point. >> let me finish. would you let me finish? >> let me ask you to react. >> first of all, it's really disappointing specifically to see byron donalds not just go ahead and say, i'm not sure if the former president was confuse order what, considering the fact that he represents florida. the fact that he would not just say he may have been confused about a story because there's a different story that doesn't have anything to do with migrants whatsoever -- he could have tried to do that. instead, they just are trying to glaze over it. donald trump looked unhinged as we know he is as he stood up there and made up lies and then he went off on these crazy fantasies. pretending as if -- even if there was one person that had
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done that. why would you attribute an entire group of immigrants to potentially going out and stealing everybody's dogs and cats and eating them? that's insane. the fact that this makes sense to bring up in a presidential debate is beyond me. i don't know how you can watch this debate and be undecided. i could see how you walked in maybe undecided. after watching this, you have to be concerned that the most important position that we have in the world is president of the united states, and if we have somebody who literally doesn't know who our friends are and who is not our friends, who can't say, yes, i want ukraine to win the war, what russia did was wrong, and consistently talks about these authoritarians as if they are god themselves, in addition to making up just some of the most ridiculous lies about immigrants in the country of immigrants, when he is married to an immigrant, i don't
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know what more you need to see. >> thank you very much. >> absolutely. the deciders. did kamala harris do enough last night to sway swing voters in pennsylvania? and other battleground states. >> did she do enough to break the tie? >> i think she had a great night. but every single day in pennsylvania matters to break that tie, to pick up that last yard. it's tough here. leo! [whistling] ever since we introduced him to the farmer's dog,
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pundits and political aides are debating the aftermath of the debate. it's going to be up to the voters to decide whether it makes a difference or what happens next in those critical swing states, who are going to pave the way to the white house for kamala harris or donald trump. either could win. joining me now, kate snow. and in michigan for us, shaquille brewster. kate, you spoke to voters in bucks community, outside philadelphia. they are important. hillary lost some people there in 2016. biden won them. what are they telling you? >> hillary did win the county in 2016, but barely. it's gone blue before. right now they have more registered republicans in bucks county than democrats at the
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moment. i spoke with three undecided voters. truly, undecided. they were hard to find. they are not the majority. lynn is a republican. hannah in the middle of the table is an independent. andrew is a registered democrat. all three of them -- i asked them after the debate what they thought. take a listen. >> i think kamala had a good debate. i feel more favorably towards her than donald. but i'm still not -- >> not sure? >> not 100%. >> one way or another, maybe it's 51/49. >> for trump? >> do i like these choices? for trump. do i like either choice? am i happy about going and pushing the button or writing it down? absolutely not. >> all three say they do intend to vote. they are going to make up their mind. last night was not the clincher for them. hannah was frustrated at what
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she sees as a lack of bipartisanship in this country, the fact we are so divided. they keep describing policies. i don't know how they will implement them. they can't get agreement in congress to do some of things that they are both talking about. >> that's so interesting. shaq, tell us what you are hearing in kent county in michigan. >> reporter: i will tell you, this is a county that we have been focused on for some time. it's an area where donald trump won in 2016. joe biden flipped in 2020. i met a couple people during the primary here who told me they voted for nikki haley. i reached out to them after the debate. they said they were leaning towards harris before the debate. they said in the words of one person, the conversation about january 6 sealed the deal for her. listen to some of the conversations i had with folks here today. >> i wish she would have answered some of the questions a little bit more directly.
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you could tell she was prepared and she knew exactly how to get to him. >> at the beginning she was nervous, but then she was strong and powerful and had a plan. >> reporter: were there moments that stuck out? >> when trump accused people of eating pets. it freaked me out a little bit. >> where trump was rambling away and harris was looking at him, what is this guy on? >> reporter: i did speak to a gentleman who told me he was backing donald trump before the debate. he said that's the same after the debate. he said that moment about the dogs really was weird to me. i wish that didn't come up. he said, ultimately, for him, it's about the economy and how he perceived donald trump as being a stronger candidate. i have to note, when going around talking to people, there are a lot of people who tell me, they did not watch the debate or that they have only seen a
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snippet. people are plugged in but plenty of people are still going to form their opinions on what they saw last night or what they hear from what happened last night in the days to come. >> good point, shaq brewster. joining me now is brendan buck, former top communications advisor to house speakers paul ryan and john boehner. watch this for a moment. it's kind of really interesting. senator mitt romney was asked about last night by ryan nobles in the corridors of congress. let's listen and watch what he said. >> this was classic president trump. a performance. in the case of kamala harris, most people didn't know her well other than a few clips that were not flattering, that you might see on the internet. people saw, she's an intelligent, capable person who has a point of view on issues. she demonstrated that time and again. >> what do you think? might an endorsement be coming?
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>> sure sounds like it. you have to agree with everything that he said there. there's only one candidate here who seems to be taking this whole thing seriously. kamala harris came into this with a plan. also, speaking directly to voters in a way that donald trump seems to be incapable of doing. he seems to be very into not just lazy and not preparing for this debate, but entitled. he is owed this presidency. he doesn't have to work for it. whether or not what she did last night is enough, i think what shaq showed is telling, that we have seen donald trump on stage for -- on the political stage for a long time. i'm not really convinced that we are -- we can have confidence that him having a bad performance is going to cost him anything. >> let me just interrupt you for a second. let's go live to shanksville, pennsylvania.
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the heroic passengers who stopped that plane from potentially, mike, getting to the capitol where it was destined to go. >> reporter: yeah, that's right. we see the president and the vice president are now being led by representatives of some of the victims' families to the impact site behind this long black wall. the symbolism is powerful, as was the ceremony where they did honor each of the 40 victims, 33 passengers and the flight crew. we see the president and vice president together, the joint appearance at each site so symbolic, indicative of the way they can appear together with the trappings of the presidency in a way that certainly can aid
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the vice president at this moment. as i have been talking with people close to the white house as well as some of the family members, everyone is emphasizing that this is not to them about politics. this is the fifth time that president biden has come here, twice as vice president previously, twice as president, this is the second time as president. one of the relatives of one of the family members talking about list past interactions with president biden, the way which he can sympathize. talks about the impact of the anniversaries, no matter how many years have passed, it never gets easier on these anniversaries it comes back. it's an emotional day for the families. each of the family members who have been able to join today. former president donald trump will be coming here later today. this event is considered an official event put on by the national park service. laying of the wreath, the national wreath laying here. donald trump is coming here as a
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private citizen later today. one of the family members saying they are a little disappointed in the ways in which they feel politics is intruding on this day. they understand that one saying it was difficult to watch the debate last night knowing what they were going to be gathering here today. as we talk about this 23rd anniversary, i was struck by the earlier service here in which the superintendent of the site talked about how we now have an entire generation of americans for whom the events of 9/11 is not something that they remember as we do exactly where we were as the events were unfolding, but for whom they are learning about in classes and in school and had 20,000 students from across the country participating virtually in this morning's service, a learning to remember program. it does speak to the ways in which as each anniversary has come and gone, we certainly -- those of us who lived through
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this day are brought back to the moment. there's a new generation coming to experience this in a different way. >> that's so true. for those of us who lived through it, it's the kind of thing you never forget. people remember where they were when jfk, dr. martin luther king junior and bobby kennedy were killed. the families led by the president and vice president, what we are seeing as you described it, walking to that really somber, terrifying and peaceful place now. the boulder and the impact site. again, the fact that politics does intrude. in a good way, i think, earlier today at 9/11, donald trump who has an imperfect record on that subject, with a lot of false statements over the years, including immediately afterwards. but he was there and there was a
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civilized, quiet moment with him and kamala harris just hours after they had clashed memorably last night politically, mike. thank you so very much. go ahead. >> reporter: we will see the president and vice president come back here. we expect them to mingle with family members and spend time with them. one of the family members did say that they were planning to be here for as long as they knew the president and vice president were going to be here but that when president trump they learned was coming, he is a former president of the united states, they did appreciate that he was going to make this appearance. they decided to stay longer for him as well. what's obviously a highly charged campaign for some of the family members, they appreciate these leaders coming together to join with them in the somber anniversary. >> i'm very glad you are there to make those points, mike.
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back with us now, thanks for your patience, brendan buck. joining us also, susan page. brendan, you have a new piece on msnbc.com this morning. you write, harris wiped the floor with trump at the debate. it might not matter. why do you say that? >> as i was getting into earlier, the donald trump that we saw last night is not all that unfamiliar from the donald trump we have seen for nearly a decade now. yet people have continued to support him. hillary clinton had a great debate against donald trump, and she still lost. i was on the romney campaign in 2012 when he wiped the floor with obama and it didn't matter. my only point is, it should make a difference. there was a very clear, stark contrast last night in style and
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substance and leadership and seriousness. kamala harris is the only person who is demonstrating any level of respect for voters in communicating what she thinks and believes and why they should vote for her. something like that may not matter. she's been riding this incredible wave, and we still have a tied race. i will be curious to see if this is the bump you should expect she would have and didn't see after her convention. >> it's a good point. susan, i want to talk about the split screens last night. we saw that joe biden, in his debate with donald trump, didn't seem aware that he was on camera, even when he wasn't talking. in that split screen, he looked really not well. she clearly had planned her reactions knowing she was going to be on camera throughout and knowing she wouldn't have moments to rebut, necessarily, and counter miss points, given
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the format. that she could do it visually by laughing or showing an expression of, what the heck is he talking about? the preparation that went into that. right? >> she was prepared for every aspect of the debate. she came in with a mission which she then executed. part was her body language. it was coming up to him and demanding that he shake her hand. the last time the two candidates shook hands was in 2016. that showed a certain command of the stage. then she used her body language even when her mic was turned off to express her view of what donald trump was saying, sometimes she looked con contemptuous and sometimes amused. she was prepared. it showed her experience as a prosecutor. you know the jury is looking at you all the time.
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you always want to convey who it is you think you are, who you want them to think you are. >> i think it's also a great defense lawyer prepping her. >> this was a lawyer's debate on her side. on his side, it was as brendon -- brendan was saying, it was classic trump. he came as classic trump, even though he had gotten advice from advisors to not engage in personal attacks, not talk about the past like the 2020 election but to look forward and focus on policy. he >> and what about the cats and dogs in springfield? >> we didn't have to wait very long for cat asks dogs in springfield either. kamala harris was trying to communicate to those undecided
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voters. donald trump can't seem to get out of the idea that every event he does is a rally. and you have to be pretty deep into i guess everybody knows about this now, but you have to be pretty deep into conservative online conversations to know what the heck he was talking about. he didn't explain it. he threw out that things are happening in these cities as if people at home who are trying to decide who they are going to pick are on truth social all day. it just shows you he's taking this very seriously and doesn't have a lot of respect for the people who are ultimately going to decide the election. >> thank you both. hurricane francine closing in on louisiana right now is set to make landfall there today. it's packing a flooding rainfall, destructive winds and possibly deadly storm surge. joining us now is meteorologist bill karins and jesse kirsch, who is in new orleans. what are residents saying?
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how are they preparing? >> reporter: yesterday, the day before expected landfall, we saw people lined up around the block to get sandbags to protect property because there's possibility of storm surge, flooding, and even tornadoes here in new orleans. we have started to get a steady rain. there's now a light breeze that's been moving through the downtown here in new orleans. but we are expecting conditions to deteriorate in the hours ahead as hurricane francine makes landfall. we could see 3 to 5 inches of rainfall per hour in this city. >> and bill karins, let's talk about the track. where is it going and what's the strength? >> we are only a couple hours away now from landfall. the latest from the hurricane center still a category 1 hurricane. it looks unlikely it will strengthen. it will maintain the strength until it makes landfall and rapidly begin to weaken. the northern bands are moving on
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shore. soon we'll have power outages with the tropical storm storm gust. notice the current wind gusts in the 20 mile per hour range. but off the coast, 69 and an oil platform had a gust of 101 miles per hour when it went through the eye an hour ago. here's the eye. you notice how close it is to the coast. only two to three hours new york city but it will be 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. new orleans, you're under a tropical storm warning. if you get wind gusts over 50 miles per hour, that's when power outages begin, tree limbs begin to fall, dead trees will fall. that does include this area to new orleans to homa. in between this area is where we think the strongest winds will be. then it will weaken rapidly as it heads to the north into areas of mississippi. it looks like a rainfall problem. not so much wind damage and power outages. that rainfall risk does include the new orleans area. as jesse was mentioning, tonight the worst in new orleans is about 5:00 p.m. to midnight. that's when the heaviest wind
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and strongest winds will be occurring. then the storm will rain itself out after that. so we do have a hurricane making landfall, but this is not a big major devastating storm. this is a storl that we're hoping is going to be more we can clean up in days, not weeks. >> and what is louisiana governor saying? >> reporter: the governor just wrapped up a press conference a short time ago. bottom line, officials are saying we are past the point of evacuation. at this time, they are telling residents in louisiana you should be sheltering in place where you are. the city of new orleans, that was commuicated on a more local level as well. they were telling people to finish their preparations yesterday evening ideally and that by 11:00 a.m. central time, people should have been sheltering in place. still seen people out walking dogs and people on morning runs, a couple cars out here, but by and large, it has been quiet. i can tell you from our own experience, we went to get supplies ourselves and at a grocery store in new orleans, much of the shelving devoted to
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bottled water was already cleared out one more point to add. this storm formed closer to louisiana than others do that means there's less time for preparation. that is something we'll be keeping ab eye on and it's how that might factor into response here. >> stay safe. thank you. thanks to all of you. that does it for us for "andrea mitchell reports." remember to follow the show on social media. you can rewatch the best of our show any time on youtube. "chris jansing reports" starts after a short break. " starts after a short break. ♪♪ citi's industry leading global payments solutions help their clients move money around the world seamlessly in over 180 countries... and help a partner like the world food programme as they provide more than food to people in need.
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good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. will it go down as a critical influx point or an historical footnote? because after all the history-making hype leading up to last night's big debate, the only thing that matters now is whether americans see the candidates differently today than they did 24 hours ago. harris' campaign now pushing a second debate. trump saying this morning he's not inclined to agree. but political pressure could change his mind. she maybe the most powerful and influential childless cat lady in the modern
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