it is good to be back with you on this second hour of "chris jansing reports." at this hour, will it be one and done? what donald trump is saying about the chances for a second debate after a performance that got bad reviews from even some of his closest allies. plus, get the friendship bracelets ready, the harris campaign starts churning out the merch after taylor swift proclaims that she, as a childless cat lady, is in her endorsement era. the big money that poured in right after she did it.

and millions watched but did the debate change minds? we're taking the pulse of battleground state voters. and a bipartisan moment after a bitter face-off. how the candidates marked today's 9/11 anniversary. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments starting with, though the dust has barely settled from the first debate, kamala harris is pushing for round two. nbc's dasha burns is in philadelphia. so, what are the chances, dasha, that donald trump agrees? it's. >> reporter: it's unclear at this point, i can't believe we're debating about debates again. here's where we stand right now. look, the former president's advisers, as recently as last night in the spin room were telling us, of course he's game for a second debate. he's going to do a second debate. we already agreed to one. let's do this. then the former president comes to the spin room on fox news

this morning, and says, maybe not so much. take a listen. >> you don't know if you want to do another debate. it sound like you're a no. >> well, i would be less inclined to. we had a great night. we won the debate. we had a terrible network. >> reporter: yeah, and the harris campaign is putting out a statement today saying that of course she's game for a second debate. let's do this thing. the chances of it happening, look, behind the scenes, advisers are saying, listen, this is up to him in the same way that we never know if a press conference means if he's going to take questions, we don't know if he's going to say, let's do this, if harris succeeds in baiting him into a second bait the way she succeeded on baiting him on points last night. tbd, september 25th is the date proposed, october. they're fighting over the date. the former president says, i don't know, i don't think we

need to. we'll have to see, chris. >> time will tell. the clock is ticking. dasha burns, thank you. maybe you didn't stay up late enough but the debate ended with a mic crop, not from the candidates but the most famous singer in the world. following taylor swift's endorsement of kamala harris. i guess the campaign is already selling friendship bracelets. what do they think the endorsement could mean for the race? >> reporter: it certainly doesn't hurt the harris campaign at all, chris. obviously it brings in enthusiasm, swift's die hard supporters, and also we end up seeing the democratic fundraising platform act blue handle more than $20 million just right after the swift endorsement. of course that was also in conjunction with the debate, and so we don't know if that was the endorsement or debate that was energizing all of that. certainly good news for democrats. and, chris, you know, it is arguable that maybe joe biden needed taylor swift more than harris does, with all the

enthusiasm we have seen in polls, but certainly, the harris campaign will take it. just to read you what swift says in her endorsement of kamala harris, she ended up saying, i'm voting for harris because she fights for the rights and causes, i believe a warrior to champion them. then said, i believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we are lead by calm and not chaos. chris, just the latest twists and turns in this presidential race. a debate, and then a big endorsement. >> from the childless cat lady. mark murray, thank you so much. the latest poll has michigan as a one point race, harris just ahead of trump, but that's of course well within the margin of error, which is why we sent nbc's shaquille brewster to talk to voters there. what are they telling you, shaq? >> reporter: well, chris, those who were locked into the decision before the debate, i haven't sensed much shifting

with them, including one person who said he's backing donald trump, though he didn't like the conversation about dogs and race that you heard on the debate stage yesterday. for those who said they were undecided, there is some movement there. i spoke to one person yesterday who said he was going in undecided. he texted me today saying he will be backing the vice president. i want you to listen to other conversations i've had with folks here in grand rapids. >> she mentioned about $6,000 a year, i don't know if that's on top of the child tax credit that we'll get. i wish i knew a little bit more details. >> they talked a lot about russia and ukraine. i'm 50% ukrainian, i have family in ukraine, so hearing trump talk a lot about, i'm friends with putin, he's my homey, that made me nervous. >> what did you think at the beginning of the bait? >> she seemed unsettled, seemed to trip over her words, and then

hit her stride quickly. i thought she did a great job. >> reporter: you know, there was a broad desire from folks to hear more from the candidates, to hear more detailed policy proposals than what we heard on the stage yesterday, and chris, i'll say, out of the conversations i have been having as i've been approaching people asking if they watched the debate, a lot of people told me they didn't get to watch the debate. some said it was too late or they had children or needed to go to sleep for work. just a reminder that it's going to take time for this to filter through to most of the population, chris. >> shaquille brewster, thank you, on a beautiful day in michigan. for a few hours today, the divisiveness of the presidential race was on pause as the nation marked the 9/11 anniversary. mike memoli is reporting from shanksville, pennsylvania. we have seen all of the key players here in politics today. harris, trump, president biden. give us the latest.

>> reporter: after you saw that bipartisan show of unity this morning at ground zero, new york, with vice president biden and harris, alongside president biden, we're seeing separate appearances at the shanksville memorial. former president donald trump is coming back from the large sand stone boulder in the field behind me, which marks the point of impact of flight 9223 years ago today. the former president just arriving barely an hour after vice president harris and president biden were here to lay a wreath in honor of the 40 passengers and crew who perished here. it is notable that there was a solemn moment of silence during the biden/harris appearance here. as donald trump emerged from behind the memorial wall here with the names of the victims, there was an immediate burst of applause from some of those who are here. this is open to the public. after the former president laid the wreath here at the wall of names, somebody shouted we love

you, trump, and he gave a thumbs up. this is a little bit more of the split between the two parties, as the former president, you see him now alongside the wall of names. we saw president biden and vice president harris after they visited this memorial visit a fire station nearby, a volunteer station where they have a steel cross made of beams from the world trade center in washington. we know president biden and vice president harris will be finishing their day visiting the pentagon. it appears donald trump is making comments now. the camera is some distance away. i'm hearing more applause from those who are here. you see the fist bump from the former president. a very different kind of appearance now, than what we saw just an hour ago from president biden and vice president harris. >> mike memoli, thank you. coming up in 90 seconds. how a baseless rumor took center stage at the presidential debate. >> they're eating the dogs, the

people that came in, they're eating the cats.

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springfield, ohio, and this is part of that conversation. >> they are scared for their lives. some of them are -- even yesterday i got a friend calling me yesterday asking if he has to leave because he's scared for his life. so another friend told me that it seems that he would have had some family coming to visit him, but it seems that he will not welcome family in columbus because it is not safe right now for him in springfield. >> so, victoria, for people who would dismiss this as ridiculous, what would you say? >> this has the effect of further dehumanizing immigrants, right, so we have seen this rhetoric of criminals, of the bad guys, the bad hombres, and this adds a whole other layer. vice president harris's reaction

of laughter was one many people shared, but we have to remember that there are folks who very much will believe whatever donald trump says. they believe this, and that feeds into the narrative of not just being bad people or people breaking our immigration laws, but people who are subhuman, and this is of dire concern, because then we really get into the human rights piece. what we heard from this gentleman about folks actually fearing for their lives because they're labeled as something disgusting who would do things as horrible as eating people's pets. >> i want to bring in nbc's gabe gutierrez at the white house, and i think it's important to go back to talk about how this started and give us a fact check here, gabe. >> reporter: well, chris, this is a little complicated, but as you have been discussing, springfield, ohio, is a town of about 60,000 people, and for the last several years, it has seen this huge influx of haitian

immigrants, and by many counts they filled jobs there, boosted the local economy. there have been claims that have popped up in commission meetings of, as you described, the wild claims about immigrants eating pets. the city manager, the local mayor said yesterday that the story originated in a different town entirely. there was a woman that was arrested for animal cruelty, and that has morphed on social media to the claims you're hearing now. last night, my colleague, yamiche alcindor, asked senator j.d. vance, trump's running mate about all of this. take a listen to what he had to say. >> the city manager said there's no verifiable evidence. a lot of residents on the ground have said there is. that just means the city manager, i think, isn't fully in touch with what's going on on the ground there. i have heard from many constituents that have seen these things with their own eyes, have seen these

abductions, geese taken out of a park. what i think is a bigger problem, insulting 20,000 people or my citizens can't live a good life. >> reporter: j.d. vance acknowledging that there is a possibility that these rumors might turn out to be untrue, but of course, the local police department, city officials say that those claims are not true. something i should point out, chris, there are some concerns in that local community about resources being strained by the large number of haitian immigrants that have come over the last few years. we should point out, though, that they are there legally, in temporary protected status, but it is part of a larger debate we're having over immigration in this country, about some of these small towns having to deal with this large influx, but these claims, again, about immigrants eating pets, local officials say that is just not true, chris. >> we have seen no evidence, but, matt, first of all, these

billboards are out, multiple in arizona, a crucial battleground state, and donald trump posted an ai generated image of cats wearing maga hats and holding guns. does this help republicans who are running in battleground states? does it help donald trump? >> you know, i think from last night, it was a missed opportunity. immigration is one of our strongest issues, one of kamala harris's biggest vulnerabilities and the handling of the biden administration at the border. by going down this rabbit hole, no pun intended, you left a lot of points on the board. we talked about would donald trump lose his cool. he didn't lose his cool, he lost his train of thought. >> it isn't losing train of thought. he thinks this is an argument against the way they handled immigration. >> he lost track of his actual argument. but i think that's why i would rather be talking about immigration policy, rather than trying to figure out pets or whatever, you know. >> so victoria, i want to play some of what we heard last night

from voters who listened to all of this. >> when trump accused people of eating pets, it freaked me out a little bit that he's so insane that he would actually like make that claim publicly. >> with the dogs, i can't believe this is happening in ohio and a person running for president would say that. >> i never heard that before, so i just kind of took it with a grain of salt. it really didn't distress me. >> so how do you think, victoria, the harris campaign should handle this? do they ignore it? you know, voters know it's ridiculous. do they call it out? do they talk as you did at the beginning of the segment about why it matters? how? >> it depends what segment of the electorate we're focused on. i think that base of donald trump's that is with him no matter what, this is actually something that motivates them, could potentially mobilize them.

i think where the window of opportunity is for the harris campaign is in that middle, those independent voters, those swing voters where this type of thing that might pump up the base on the republican side makes folks scratch their head and folks leaning slightly toward trump maybe question his judgment in saying these types of things. i think it's not ridiculing but saying, hey, let's stop and think. this is nonsensical, and let's, instead, focus on a solution. what is the solution to match the earlier point. let's talk about immigration and how we fix this. >> this wasn't the only issue where harris suggested trump was disconnected from reality. let me play a little bit more from last night. >> you will see during the course of his rallies, he talks about fictional characters, windmills cause cancer, and what

you will also notice is people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom. >> that last part, a little bit of a needle. the stuff that trump says that is verifiably untrue, he hasn't really paid a price. he's still neck in neck in this race. >> yeah. >> so is it the already baked in part of donald trump or could he start to pay a price? >> i think more than anyone else, lost opportunity cost. folks don't follow politics as closely as we do. >> not just cats and dogs, you're losing, ground, you're going down rabbit holes. that was the biggest missed opportunity last night. the opportunity cost of having 50 million people watching you. you can say whatever you want. >> we're wait to go see what the numbers are. the early indications, at least anecdotally, it could be huge, has always been this stream of

consciousness speaker. it didn't matter to his supporters in the past. so how does kamala harris portray this as something different? >> there have been lots of headlines recently about how now it's not joe biden. it's donald trump whose age and competence and coherence are in question. >> well, and think about the contrast last night in the policy discussion where we would hear details, perhaps not as many details as folks would have liked from kamala harris, and what she wants to do with regards to the opportunity economy, where as with former president donald trump, you really didn't hear that, and then at one point, when he was discussing what to do about the affordable care act, he said, well, i'll deal with it when i have to deal with it when i'm president. that was that stark contrast. you could see the harris campaign drilling into. it's not just that he's riling

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if donald trump supporters hoped this debate could provide him with a reset, particularly on issues of race and gender, it may have done the opposite. >> i read where she was not black, that she put out, and i'll say that, and then i read that she was black and that's okay. either one was okay with me. it's up to her. >> honestly, i think it's a tragedy that we have someone who wants to be president who has consistently over the course of his career attempted to use race to divide the american people. >> and it didn't stop there. after a quick handshake, their first, which she initiated, the gloves quickly came off. the split screens revealing the tension even when the mics were off. trump keeping his gaze fixed straight ahead on the moderators, almost no eye

contact with harris. the vice president looked directly at trump while she spoke, and when it wasn't her turn, she did watch him. she was laughing, she was smiling, she was shaking her head. putting her hand to her chin a couple of times. saying to her face what she couldn't verbalize because there was a closed microphone. joining us now, donna edwards, and msnbc political analyst, matt gorman is still with us. congresswoman, there are questions now as there were with barack obama about what role race and racism will play in this election. what did the debate last night tell you? >> well, it told me -- >> so we lost her obviously. the fun of live television, but, matt, look, we heard from voters that -- and a lot of them were republican voters as we were leading up to this -- that

donald trump, the guy who is divisive, the guy who goes off topic, the guy who goes after her saying she wasn't black and now she is black, they don't understand why he's doing that. they think he has a story to tell. it's kind of what you were talking about in the next -- in the last conversation, but for those who know donald trump as somebody who could eviscerate somebody on a stage, he did it certainly in some of the primaries, did she leave any doubt that that guy isn't there anymore? >> i think a couple of things. i think certainly, you know, we talked about this far year now. they were targeting african-americans, men and latinos, so i was interested to see going into tonight, what the trump campaign would say to them, right. obviously now knowing it's a black female. one of the things is, look, they knew this question was coming. they had prepped for this.

how does he try and pivot, attract some of the african-american men. what we saw is a relitigation, again, of the past comments. you spent way too much time on the defensive. i was surprised he didn't find a way to pivot out of it, and get on more solid ground. we knew that was going to be a safe and strong issue for her. >> we have seen for a very long time, and we have congresswoman, we have you back, is she there? there you go, donna, good to see you. >> sorry about that. >> we were talking about the role of race, and what you think it told us last night as you were watching the debate, what did we learn about it as an issue in this campaign? >> i think we learned that kamala harris has actually learned a lot from 2008 with barack obama and the birtherism claims to hillary clinton and the 2016 campaign, and that she's taken those lessons to heart, and that is that she doesn't have to be the one to bring up race and gender, that

donald trump does that on his own, and then he flubs it. and it's there for the american people to see. and so i think she's been very smart in the way she's handled this. she's leaning into her role as commander in chief as a leader and on the policy front, and let donald trump do all of his racism, sexism, gender misidentification that happens, and i think that's going to serve her well. >> yeah, look, this is not a guy who prepares, and he actually seems very proud of the fact that my whole life was a reparation for this debate. it's something he said before. but it did seem like he had practiced one moment, and it was a moment that really copied something that kamala harris had done. let me play it. >> okay. the role, she gave up at least 12 and probably 14 or 15 different policies. like, she was big on defund the

police. in minnesota, she went out, wait a minute, i'm talking now. if you don't mind, please. does that sound familiar? >> that was a reference obviously to harris's debate with mike pence where she said, i'm speaking. those are always hard to pull off. why? he was making a point, and then he went to that -- >> i figured it would be coming from the harris campaign. i remember those exact words, he said that in the first debate in 2015. that's what he said. i have been prepping for this my whole life. his answer on abortion was much better than what we saw last night. he was in control much more. and you're right, there was evidence of prep coming out, the closing statement, i thought was very strong. >> let me ask you this, becaus the one cing.

will you veto an abortion ban. >> yeah. >> he didn't have an answer. he didn't answer. >> but that has been his consistent answer, to be fair, has been his consistent answer for a while now. >> that i have no answer. >> no, look, it will never come to that. j.d. vance, i think, went and said the veto part, which was new. >> i'm always skeptical on both sides when they say i don't want to deal in hypotheticals, what would you do? what is your position? >> yeah, i see what you're saying, and i think it's one of those where he spent a lot of time litigating abortion on the defense. he tried to go on offense a little bit, but it didn't always work. a lot of litigation of things that weren't strong suits and found it hard to pivot in his benefit. >> "the new york times" did an interesting breakdown, they found total time speaking and attacking. trump spent 30% of his total time on the attack. harris, far more. 46%. i mean, she's pushed herself as

the candidate of joy, and a debate is one thing, right? when your opponent is donald trump, maybe in particular, but strategically, does she stay in attack mode? how does she find that balance? >> she thinks she found the balance. what she did is she would launch an attack, but then she would pivot toward the positive. she would pivot toward the future, and i think that's what you have to do with donald trump. you can't just let him get away with saying anything, and then not have an answer for it. you notice that she would attack him, and then she would go right to where she is on issues and where she stands on policy, and looking toward the future, and she did it in a way that was a little bit off putting for him because i think he's used to going on the attack mode when there's confrontation. he's not accustomed to doing it when somebody is attacking him with a smile, and then turning

to the camera. and so it made him actually quite uncomfortable with the kinds of attacks she was launching. >> congresswoman donna edwards, matt gorman, i could talk a lot more about this, but another day. maybe if there's another debate. i don't know, we'll see. still to come, the debate may have been against kamala harris, but donald trump kept bringing up another name last night. >> and remember this, she is biden. she copied biden's plan, and i'll give you a little secret, he hates her. he can't stand her. tand her ♪♪ citi's industry leading global payments solutions help their clients move money around the world seamlessly in over 180 countries... and help a partner like the world food programme as they provide more than food to people in need. together, citi and the world food programme empower families across the globe. ♪♪

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it has been part of donald trump's strategy throughout the campaign, tie kamala harris directly to joe biden to answer her pitch that she is the change candidate. so at the debate, challenging her on key issues from immigration to the economy. >> she copied biden's plan, and it's like four sentences, like run, spot, run. four sentences that are just, oh, we'll try and lower taxes. she doesn't have a plan. she's been there for three and a half years. they've had three and a half years to fix the border. they've had three and a half years to create jobs. they're all the things we talked about. why hasn't she done it? >> joining us now, democratic congressman of california robert garcia, national cochair of the harris campaign, he was in the spin room for the vice president last night. it's good to see you once again.

so let's talk about that criticism that biden/harris didn't fix immigration in the past three and a half years that people three and a half years later are still feeling unhappy with the economy because, you know this, polls suggest voters think trump would do a better job on both of those critical issues, so did he land at least those punches? >> i don't think donald trump landed a single punch in that debate. he was saying strange comments on the immigration issue. he's talking about immigrants eating pets. he was barely coherent the entire time, and kamala harris kept him on the defensive, and i think if you look at all of the reaction from the debate, whether it's from his maga base or any of the polls we have seen with independent voters and swing state voters, everyone agrees kamala harris won the debate. it's important. this is a new campaign. she has been obviously the presidential nominee, what, not even two months and so she'll

continue to talk about issues around immigration, issues around the economy. it's been kamala harris and the biden administration that has had a bipartisan border and immigration deal in front of the congress with the support of republican senators that donald trump has tanked in the congress because he wanted the administration to get zero credit. so the person that actually wants to do nothing on securing the border on any type of immigration plan has been donald trump. he just wants to talk about it and demonize immigrants, and so kamala harris, tim walz, they have a plan, they're talking about it, and she had a great night on these issues last night. >> you were in the spin room, and i'm sure you were also watching things like fox news, the reviews have been, just as you said, largely, with the exception of donald trump's review saying she won. the momentum has definitely been with her. the buzz has been with her. the money has been with her. significantly. but the polls seem to have

stalled. so what's going to move them? do you think the debate is going to move them, or what's the plan moving forward? >> i mean, look, i think if you look at the polling, she has continued to move in the right direction. all the polling has gone in a positive direction for her, and she had some ground to make up, especially in the swing states. and so she continues to hit every single mark that the campaign sets out, breaking all the grass roots funding, the volunteers, the energy, and absolutely, the debate she did what she needed to do. keep donald trump on the defensive. i think you're already seeing energy. you saw a historic amount of fundraising, again, happen last night. historic numbers, and so, of course the debate is going to help and continue to move the numbers in the right direction. i want to caution folks, the vice president herself has said it's going to be a close election, and we're running an underdog campaign. that is still the way we are

running this race. we have got to work hard every single day, and that's the way that we win. we cannot assume that somehow we are in the lead. this is going to be a close election. >> clearly you have a strategy in place. it's a strategy you and the other folks in the campaign that we have had on have been consistent in talking about big piece of that being the unprecedented investment, the number of offices you have in those battleground states, but let me talk about two things specifically from last night. one is the great reviews. there's a certain amount of momentum about that, right? the second is, i don't know if you heard, there was this endorsement by this pop star named taylor swift. is there a way the campaign adjusted strategy, whether it's the reviews or endorsement and you use them to target specific voter groups or use them to message? >> i mean, absolutely. i think first what happened last night, i'm seeing just positive reaction all over social media,

tiktok, spaces where young people are having discussions. it was widely applauded by everyone. and so i think that the debate, her being able to put him on the defensive was important. one thing i keep seeing over and over again is that he couldn't even look her in the eye. he is such a coward, he could not look at her one time. and so he is clearly scared of her. doesn't want to debate her again. and now we have folks like taylor swift coming on board. i think she won't be the last big pop star name, i'm sure, that jumps on board. >> oh, oh, oh, oh, are you -- you want to break some news here? >> i have no news to break. this is my assumption is that there will be others, including some of my personal favs that will get on board, i hope. >> sound like you know something? >> no, i do not. what i do know is that swift is going to move a lot of her fans in a direction where i

think the country is moving. this was a great night for the vice president and a horrible, terrible night, which we love to see, i love to see for donald trump. i think that he was exposed for the fraud that he is. i think he was exposed for his bizarre behavior. i love the vice president encouraged people to attend one of his rallies. all you have to do is sit through one of those to see how unhinged some of his commenting can be. all around good night. whether you're on fox or talking to my republican colleagues in congress or hearing from republican folks i know back home, there's a clear winner. it was kamala harris. >> congressman robert garcia. thank you so much for coming on. appreciate it. and still to come, hurricane francine closing in on the gulf coast with millions bracing for life threatening storm surges. we're live as the rain moves in. .

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we've got a very close eye on the gulf coast where a category one hurricane could bring up to a foot of rain today. these are the latest images from gulf port, mississippi, rain falling. winds picking up as people brace for the storm. nbc's steven romo is in gulf port. meteorologist bill karins is also standing by. what are conditions like now? >> reporter: chris, we're starting to feel that rain has become more steady, and wind

gusts are picking up now. we're talking to a lot of people who are getting ready. they seem to be taking this seriously. some people we're talking to coming into town just in time to get their homes ready for this. what they're worried about is that storm surge. we saw people filling up sand bags earlier, that the city has gathered together for that exact purpose. they say they want to keep the water out of their house. many have had run-ins for storms before. >> i was very concerned about the forecast. because you never know about mother nature. it made me nervous but the power was out and whatnot. i got some candidates, i got those light power. >> you learned from the last one, it sounds like? >> yes. >> reporter: very good. >> i would rather be safe. >> reporter: now a lot of people in that same position, they learned their lessons from earlier storms, particularly with the power outages, many people buying generators, for

preparation for that exact eventuality. some people breathing a sigh of relief. but as bill can tell you, that does not mean these people are in the clear. >> leads me to my question, how hard will mississippi and louisiana be hit? >> mississippi, i'm more concerned of isolated tornadoes. louisiana, that's where you get the brunt of the carry 1 -- category 1 hurricane. this will not be weeks without powers. more days, still, you don't want to be part of that if you can avoid it. it's not that far from the coast, rainfall expected in four to five hours. tornado watch issued until 11:00, which includes southern portions of mississippi, new orleans, and you can see the well defined eye. that doesn't mean it's a strong storm. it's a category one, but it has a huge eye. a lot of people are going through that in the next six hours. including areas between baton rouge and new orleans. winds right now, we're not losing power until we get above

roughly 45, 50 miles per hour gusts, and that's not happening yet. new orleans had a gust of 37. off the coast, we have gusts up to 70. 86 at the bottom of the screen down here and the oil platform. this is the core. when this moves on shore, people will lose power. he's thibodeau and the new orleans area. we're keeping a close eye on morgan city, a populated city that has the best chance of the strongest winds. that's roughly about three hours from now. so everyone in the morgan city area, if you didn't evacuate, you're protected by really tall levees, don't have to worry about water. you could lose power in the next four to five hours. again, 45 or above. you have a chance of tree limbs coming down, knocking down power lines. you'll have minor damage to shingles, things that can fly away, and that's new iberia to new orleans. baton rouge up to mccomb, possibly jackson, hattiesburg,

of course we always have the flash flooding concern with the storms. heavy rain setting up. we have a moderate risk. this will go through tomorrow morning. louisiana to central mississippi. chris, we're about to the part of the storm where we start to see power outages begin to build. that means preparation time is over, and just wait and see how strong the storm can maintain. one piece of good news, the hurricane on the aircraft flying through it, did find it slightly weaker. we love that trend. we want to get as weak as possible in the next six to twelve hours. >> thank you for the good news, bill karins. and the faa is now investigating a terrible collision between two delta planes, taxiing on a runway in atlanta. the bigger jet bound for tokyo knocked the tail off of the smaller regional jet, which was on it way to louisiana. remarkably, 277 passengers on board at the time were uninjured, and got rebooked on other flights. here's how one of them described

what happened. >> suddenly, it felt like when you're on the interstate and you hit the rumble strips and it got louder and more violent, we hear the metal scraping. >> that's not a good sign. experts say this kind of taxi way collision is rare, and slower speeds helped prevent any injuries. that's going to do it for us this hour. make sure to join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday, 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" next. with "katy tur reports" next. the more you end up eating the other half of your footlong. no one can resist juicy chicken, smoky bacon, and creamy ranch. get the elite chicken and bacon ranch. now at subway!

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