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cool j on "the beat" as we discuss his new album. "the reidout" is up next. tonight on "the reidout" -- >> america is ready for a new way forward. and we are ready for a new generation of leadership that is optimistic, optimistic about what can do for our country together. we agree, we have a duty as citizens to put country above partisanship and defend our constitution. >> kamala harris has just wrapped up a whirlwind day of campaigning in north carolina, her first day back on the trail since trouncing donald trump at the debate. meanwhile, trump spent the day declaring himself the monumental winner of the debate, fighting
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with fox hosts who disagreed and spreading racist conspiracies about immigrants eating your pets. you just can't make it up. we begin with the state of the campaign with 54 days to go until the election. vice president kamala harris held two blockbuster events in north carolina today, speaking to massive crowds in greensboro tonight, and in charlotte this afternoon. and leaning into direct attacks on donald trump's bizarro debate performance. she heads to pennsylvania tomorrow to hold multiple events. surrogates are also holding events all across the country today, the start of what her campaign is describing as a more aggressive phase of the campaign. they say they want to capitalize on her debate performance and that will include releasing new ads featuring key moments from the primetime showdown. trump also returned to the campaign trail today. he just wrapped up remarks in arizona, a state he lost to president joe biden in 2020 by over 10,000 votes.
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he's apparently still getting over the sting of his dismal debate performance taking his complaints online, pathetically feuding with fox trokes for stating what we know to be true, he lost the debate. he's also childishly declaring people are just starting to give me credit for having a great debate, upping the lie to a monumental victory over kamala harris and calling on everyone at abc news which held the debate to be fired and maybe the network's broadcast license to be revoked. boy, this guy really hates to lose. he followed that by announcing to no surprise that there will be no third debate. i'm joined now by claire mccaskill, former democratic senator from missouri and msnbc political analyst, jason johnson, professor of politics and journalism at morgan state university, and mark leibovitz, staff writer at the atlantic and msnbc contributor. you're the political science here and here with me at the table. from a political science point of view, let's try to take trump
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seriously. what is the point of pretending that you didn't lose a debate that everyone has clips of? >> the value of that is to inspire the cult-like supporters that you have to not give up on you. it's interesting, you. it's not just that he lost the debate, not just that he lost the media battle, that he lost fox news. he never had taylor swift and now he lost caitlin clark. he's doing a very poor job of managing what is usually something trump is good at. he's usually able to take an absolute failure and spin it into something like i planned it all along or this is part of my personality. this has been a real challenge for him. i'm not surprised he says i don't want to do a third debate, but it's indicative of his own core numbers because a more confident trump would say, hey, that was just a test run. i can take her out again. i think he recognizes this is a turning point in the election. he may not be able to turn back. >> he got mopped. this is what vice president harris is doing with the debate
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today. this is her attacking one of the things that donald trump said, which was one of the absurd things which is his concepts of a plan, not an actual plan. here is vice president harris. >> donald trump intends to end the affordable care act. and as he said in the debate, he made clear he has no plan to replace it. in fact, you remember? concept. you remember. he has, quote, concepts of a plan. concepts of a plan. i mean, we're 54 days from this election. concepts of a plan. which means no actual plan. >> claire mccaskill, she's having way too much fun. secondly, you and i both know that no woman could ever get away with saying, i don't have a
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plan, i have concepts of a plan, let alone a black woman. you were there for the many, many times that republicans attempted to repeal and replace obamacare. they never did it, they never had a plan either. what do you make of the fact that now, his concept of a plan is part of kamala harris' campaign? >> well, it was one of the many moments that you didn't know whether to laugh or cry during the debate. this man has been saying he has a plan for health care for nine years. nine years. beginning back in 2016, early 2016, and every time he talked about it, he said we'll have it in two weeks. we'll have it in two weeks. at one point when i was in the senate and we were, you know, having these votes, when we had the vote where john mccain famously saved obamacare, we used to make the joke, we're getting the bloodhounds out. we're going to look under desks and in closets because this plan is nowhere to be found.
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it's not just him, it's the entire republican party. the fact he's going back to thinking he can get away with that, that's why this debate was so important. so many things, and when she said you should go to his rallies, what she was really saying is he's retreated to a place where he's comfortable. and the more she does better, and the more she asserts herself, the strength she shows, the more he retreats into that corner. i was shocked today at his rally. when he repeated the very same things that people all over the world and all over america were laughing at him about. because he was in a room full of his supporters, and he is desperate to get the adulation for the very same things that people are making fun of him about outside of the cult. >> it is interesting that he doesn't seem to be able, mark, to get off of the script he's written for himself. which obviously, i think he writes in front of facebook
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while doom scrolling and reading conspiracy theories. here he is today explaining why he shall not debate vice president harris again. >> we just don't think it's necessary. we won the two. i had one with, as you know, joe. quite a famous debate, then we had another one the other day, and it was both very successful. in fact, my poll numbers went up since the debate. and we think we have discussed everything, and i don't think they want it either. >> let's give some data. reuters ipsos poll, harris leads trump 47/42 in presidential poll debate. she gained. who won the debate? harris, 53%. trump, 24% among voters who said they heard at least something about the debate. vice president harris has raised $47 million from nearly 600,000 people in the first 24 hours from the debate. it's her largest 24-hour fund-raising period since the initial burst of donations when
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she entered the race, and she has taylor swift and caitlin clark, but donald trump thinks he's winning. what's happening here? should we get a psychologist or psychiatrist involved? >> a long time ago, but i would say that this is the definition of someone, i mean, you would think it was either denial or spin or something. i think it's something much more than that, which is he's in a true echo chamber of his making. he cannot hear any discouraging news. his people, his closest handlers know that they are not going to last very long if they give him any bad news whatsoever. any objectively bad news about how he performed in the debate, any truth telling about how he is. so that caters to his denial. that actually re-enforces his denial and you have more of the same, as we saw today. actually, there's no ability whatsoever to pivot to a more, you know, to a different track, which he obviously needs after the other night. >> right, the same way he treated his election loss.
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he did grow up and the only church he's ever been to is the church of the power of positive thinking but here is someone who would tell him the truth, frank luntz. here he is saying donald trump lost the debate. >> did you think kamala won, and does that mean she might now win the election? >> i think more accurately is that donald trump lost. and this is not the worst debate performance i have seen in my career. but it's very close to it. i'm trying to decide if i want to go on record, and the answer is yes. i think that he loses because of this debate performance. >> wow. >> i'm going to set aside the fact it looks like he had been through a night of heavy drinking and looks really upset about what he's saying, but even frank luntz who is a republican pollster, whose goal is to make republicans look good, is like yeah, he lost, and he's going to lose the whole thing. >> frank luntz clearly just raided steve bannon's closet and the same makeup. >> steve bannon, isn't he in jail?
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his closet is available. >> here's the thing, republicans saurld sow how bad this was. and the problem is rather than turning themselves into the underdogs and saying hey, we're going to compete, you have trump out there saying drake after finding kendrick has the super bowl, i'll let you have that but i'm coming back for you. no, you lost. the super bowl is done. it was that debate. you have now lost. instead of being capable of spinning the narrative in a way that says, we're down now, abc was against us but now we're going to fight back. they're trying to create a new reality. in a couple weeks we have jd vance against tim walz, and that's going to be worse. and so i don't know what they're trying to do in the next couple weeks because at this point, frankly, if i were a senate candidate as a republican or a house candidate, i would be backing away from the top of the ticket because this looks like it's going to crash. >> that's a great question, claire. you're in touch with some of your republican friends. are people starting to worry that we're going to have down ballot issues, that they will
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have down ballot issues for republicans because of trump? is he now a drag on the whole ticket downstream? >> well, we'll see. i think we don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves. these are still really close races in the swing states where there are the battleground senate races also. you should know up until now, and even as late as just a few days ago, almost every battleground state, trump was running ahead of the republican senate candidates. so i don't -- listen, he is in a position where he has been defeated in a debate and he's not being told the truth about it, and he thinks that lying has served him so well in his life. using false hyperbole like everyone knows she's a marxist. all the legal scholars wanted to overturn roe v. wade, everyone wanted roe v. wade to go back to the states, all of the absolutes
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he uses that are lies. he's most comfortable there because it's what he's done his whole life. and if he won't let anybody be around him that tells him the truth, he's going to stay in that comfort zone, and those rallies are his sweet spot. he goes back to the tired stuff. after they had a bomb threat at city hall in springfield, ohio, today, he goes back to the cruel, baseless allegation that legal immigrants from haiti are doing unspeakable things in the community. which by the way, we all laugh at, but it's cruel and it's racist. >> absolutely. >> it is particularly cruel to those families that are working hard and playing by the rules and grateful to have legal status in this great country. so the fact that he was comfortable going back to the same lines about them stealing pets, he said today, they're taking all the geese. now, in an isolation, we can all roll with laughter about that,
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but when you look at it first, he's comfortable saying it. and second, how mean and horrible it is. it's the underbelly he's exposing. and i don't think the polling is going to get better for him, but his cult base is locked in. anytime he loses it was rigged. all you have to do is look at social media today, and even hugh hewitt, who used to appear on this network, was saying today that everyone's realizing he won the debate because it's going to be overturned in the booth. it was rigged. the refs were rigged. and you know, it is really depressing that people are stooping to that level, but that's what's going on. >> i think it doesn't help regular order republicans, and we'll come back after the break and i'll go to you, mark, but it doesn't help regular order republicans that people like alberto gonzalez, where he says there's little evidence trump
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has the integrity and responsibility to wield the power of the presidency within the limits of the law. no amount of rationalization to support trump will change that. but he served in the bush administration. karl rove, bush's brain, there is no putting lipstick on the pig. trump was crushed by a woman he previously dismissed as dump as a rock. we're going to talk about the lie about haitian migrants and whether the disdain of old school republicans actually helps trump with his base, and well. do that. don't go anywhere. hat. don't go anywhere. in studies, the majority of people reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. i'm under 7. ozempic® lowers the risk of major cardiovascular events such as stroke, heart attack, or death in adults also with known heart disease. i'm lowering my risk. adults lost up to 14 pounds. i lost some weight. ozempic® isn't for people with type 1 diabetes. don't share needles or pens, or reuse needles.
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well, we reached the immigrants kidnapping, killing, and eating cats and ducks portion of the election season. a story so absurd, it naturally thrives in the dark recesses of the internet. what should remain in the dark recesses is now broadcast to millions of people because donald trump is basically your fox loving grandpa who doom scrolls on facebook and lacks the mental acuity, but he's the racist grandpa seeking your votes. we're learning this pet-eating nonsense was a planned debate tactic for trump to use against vice president harris. it was reported, quote, if the madeerators hit him for spreading a baseless urban legend about haitian immigrants eating cats in the small city of
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springfield, ohio, the ex-president was supposed to execute a classic rope-a-dope strategy. he would dodge the punch and place the blame on town locals and then pivot to attacking vice president kamala harris over the toll of immigration in springfield. instead, as we all saw, trump wasn't able to execute the tactic because he, like the proverbial facebook grandpa, got weighed down by the weird conspiracy part. trump was supposed to make harris own the biden record. instead, the whole republican party now owns one of the most racist conspiracy theories in modern history. one that is so gross, marjorie taylor greene thinks it's too extreme. back with me, claire, jason, mark. mark, two-part question for you. part one, donald trump is sort of running against the standard republican party. so the karl roves of the world, he can say, see, they're rinos, but now, marjorie taylor greene is saying his new thing is
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trash. she's a qanon. so where are we going here with this haitian migrants eating your dogs? >> yeah, i mean, look, he has been perfectly comfortable with alienating what used to be the republican base. i mean, he is i guess been effective in that regard. but yeah, the problem is his base is not controllable. it might be loyal to him specifically, but they're not controllable. marjorie taylor greene, rfk jr., lindsey graham, any number of people for any number of reasons are going to go off the reservation because there is no reservation here. and this is a place where trump is very comfortable going. i'm not sure, he might attack marjorie taylor greene, who knows, but i do think, i guess to back up a little bit, i do think it is meaningful when the alberto gonzalezs and liz cheneys and dick cheneys of the world come out against him, not because, i mean, anyone is surprised by it necessarily, but because tens of millions of people voted for george w. bush
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and dick cheney, and many are still alive, many are still republicans and many are looking for reasons to support the republican ticket which is why it would be powerful if george w. bush said something. this is significant, meaningful, and i think the base might support trump still, but it is not cohesive necessarily and that could be a problem. >> it does help kamala harris in the sense it's a permission structure, a door open that says hey, if you're a normie republican, you can feel welcome over here. you're going to get love at our convention and we're not crazy. let's go back to this story. i'm glad claire called it out as well. they're doing a thing that is so outre and weird that i can't see how it doesn't alienate white voters who don't want to be associated with open crazy racism, and yet, this is where the campaign has decided to go. they had an actual plan for him to use that story, he just screwed it up. >> this is the one time they had
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a plan instead of a concept of one. here's the thing, most people, especially white voters and white swing voters, they don't want to be associated with crazy. that's why they voted for biden over trump. i don't like crazy anymore. this is not a generalizable story. this is not illegal undocumented people are committing crimes. that's something anyone can comprehend or starting gangs. the idea to have people who are eating pets on a regular basis, that this is something you should fear, it sounds crazy. it's not something -- >> laura loomer made it worse and said they're eating people. she's saying they're cannibals like hannibal lecter. >> right. stealing ducks from a park, and here's the thing, it's that meme where it says the worst person you know made a good point. when marjorie taylor greene is saying i think this is too mitch, that's the kind of thing that makes normal white americans say i don't want to do this. here's the other thing that is key about republicans.
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we're not going to memory hole this. alberto gonzalez, these were terrible people. these people working with bush were terrible people. they justified torture, lied about a war. the idea those people who did everything they could to open the pathway to somebody like trump have recognized the frankenstein monster they created might destroy what is left of this country is not something that the democrats should cheer about because these people aren't great, but it is a sign that even the darkest depths of american society are saying okay, this is now too far. i will put gonzalez, dick cheney, these people in the same category as marjorie taylor greene as enough is enough. >> they opened the door and let the monsters in, but we're glad they're on the side of democracy in this moment. i want to come back, claire, because the origins of a lot of trump's current strategy are jd vance's world, which is the, he is from the manosphere dark corners of the internet, white nationalist curious sort of part of the party.
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you know, and he now has said this. this is him on cnbc. literally saying something even weirder than when he said taylor swift is a rich celebrity so why would anyone relate to her, not realizing he was talking about his boss. but here he is talking about prosperity and migration. take a listen. >> if the path to prosperity was flooding your nation with low-wage immigrants, then springfield, ohio, would be the most prosperous country in the most prosperous city in the world. while we have had this massive influx of illegal labor, what's happened? skyrocketing inflation, lower takehome pay, americans more dissatisfied with the direction of the country and the economy than in a generation. this is not the path to prosperity no matter how much wall treat says it is. >> literally, this country's prosperity was built in the first place by flooding it with zero wage labor, meaning slavery
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made america a superpower when it was an infant nation. and currently, with all the immigrants and all of the migrants who come here, we literally have the world's highest gdp. this is literally the most prosperous country on earth. what is he talking about, claire? >> yeah, and it's interesting he did that on cnbc because the audience there is by and large, not 100%, but by and large highly educated people who have taken economics in college. and many of them have taken a lot of economics in terms of academic studies. and the academics of this, in terms of the economy, is that in fact, one of the reasons we recovered from covid was some of the immigrant labor base. that doesn't mean that anybody in the democratic party wants an open border. that's not what i'm saying. i'm saying the economics show
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that he is, you know, spewing nonsense on a channel that is being received by people who know it's nonsense. and frankly, listen, i get what jason is saying about gonzalez and cheney and all of that. but really, who's worse are the people like steve schwartzman and frankly nikki haley and mitch mcconnell, that are bending a knee when they know how bad this guy is. they know it in their bones. and so, you know, yeah, the people who are saying they won't vote for trump, they're not always people i agree with on much, but i sure agree with them that this is a patriotic vote, not a partisan vote, and i think that jd vance, people need to understand he is project 2025. he believes every word of it. they can do all they want to say, what, project 2025, not me, but he was very close to the people who did it. he agrees with every word of it, and if he says he doesn't, he's
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not telling the truth. >> he worked for peter thiel. he's literally an investment banker. he knows that immigration, and they want low wage labor, but they dont want it to be brown, i guess. literally, the only reason anyone ate during the pandemic is because of all the migrant labor in the meat packing plants. they were essential employees who didn't get to stay home and catch a stimmy while they sat in the basement. they had to go to work, and that's why we made it. thank you all very much. coming up, tt tt and his allies have gotting so bad, attorney general merrick garland had to give a speech reassuring their staff, he has their back. more on that and trump's alarming comments on january 6th next. s on january 6th next recommended by the nei. i'm taking control like millions of others.
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early voting is upon us, and as the election kicks into high gear, the government is stepping up efforts to combat election interference. today, attorney general merrick garland denounced dangerous and outrageous attacks on the justice department, calling out conspiracy theories and threats of actual violence. it comes as the depart of homeland security is taking steps to prevent a repeat of the chaos unleashed by donald trump with his lies about the 2020 election. the department has designated the january 6th electoral vote count as a national special security event. it will have the same level of security as a presidential
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inauguration. political conventions and the super bowl. during tuesday's debate, donald trump lied yet again about the insurrection he fomented and declined to express a single regret about his actions that day. >> is there anything you regret about what you did on that day? >> you just said a thing that isn't covered. peacefully and patriotically, i said during my speech, not later on. peacefully and patriotically, and nobody on the other side was killed. ashli babbitt was shot by an out of control police officer that should have never, ever shot her. it's a disgrace. but we didn't do -- this group of people that have been treated so badly. >> wow, joined now by michael fanone, former metropolitan police officer and author of hold the line, the insurrection and one cop's battle for america's soul. donald trump saying during the debate, nobody was killed except
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ashli babbitt woo was shot by an out of control police officer. i have interviewed mr. sicknick's partner, and she seems to think other people were killed. your thoughts. >> well, i hope that the hundreds of thousands of law enforcement officers across this country were paying very close attention to the former president's statements. donald trump does not support law enforcement. donald trump assembled the mob on january 6th. and sent them to the capitol to do his bidding. as a result, hundreds of metropolitan police officers and united states capitol police officers were injured by trump supporters who were fueled by the lies spread by maga extremists about the 2020 election. that it was not in fact a free and fair election, and unfortunately, the former president continues to spew those same lies.
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but it was also startling for me as a former police officer to hear the former president refer to a police officer's actions, a police officer who was cleared by the united states capitol police, the metropolitan police department, and the department of justice, whose actions were declared to be appropriate, as out of control. so i hope that that rings out with those hundreds of thousands of police officers across this country that the former president would make a statement like that about a brother in arms. >> yeah, and he was just endorsed by the fraternal order of police, just last friday. and here he is attacking the actions of a police officer who was facing a woman who was literally jumping through a
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window where on the other side between ms. babbitt, where everyone is not happy that she died, but this officer was standing between her and members of congress when there was a mob outside behind her trying to get through that door. so donald trump has said that he would end things like consent decrees, et cetera, and he would unleash the police and stop investigations of them, but apparently not this officer. >> correct. and you know, donald trump talks about things like stop and frisk. i doubt that the former president has any clue what stop and frisk is, what it actually means. the legal precedent, supreme court precedent, that supports it. donald trump just likes to use buzz words that he thinks are going to generate support amongst potential voters. and with law enforcement, he'll say things like stop and frisk. he'll talk about unleashing the police on, you know, certain
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communities. and he knows that that, unfortunately, gets a positive response from many of those who support him. >> indeed. let's turn to what the doj is doing. the doj had to put out a statement saying we support you to the members of the doj who have gotten monumental numbers of threats because they're just trying to do their job. they have now designated january 6th, 2025, to be a national special security event. as somebody who had to deal with the fact that there was a lack of preparation for the trump onslaught in 2021, how do you feel about this new designation and do you think it will be effective? >> i mean, i think it's appropriate. i think it's appropriate that the attorney general would draw attention to the fact that poll workers, federal employees, doj investigators, fbi agents are all under threat because of the
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former president and maga extremists who continue to spew lies and conspiracy theories both about the 2020 election, the integrity of our elections in general, as well as this idea that law enforcement has somehow been weaponized against republicans or against members of the maga party. the only thing that law enforcement has been weaponized against is criminals conducting criminal activity. >> and one of those criminals who conducted criminal activity, per law enforcement and a jury in new york, is donald trump. how ironic is that? michael fanone, thank you very much. and coming up next, voting rights are under threat across this country as well, particularly when it comes to communities of color. we'll dive into the latest brazen voter suppression efforts by republicans after the break. k
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those with weakened immune systems may have a lower response to the vaccine. the most common side effects are injection site pain, fatigue, muscle pain, headache, and joint pain. arexvy is number one in rsv vaccine shots. rsv? make it arexvy. america has a long history of voter suppression. it also has a long history of people stepping up to fight for their right to rote. author and distinguished professor at vanderbilt university michael eric dyson tells both of those stories in his new book, represent. he profiles a fugitive slave, a chinese american teenager and a lakota sou activist. he said what happened on january
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6th is yet another example of history repeating itself with far more dangerous consequences. quote, there is a direct and jarring historical parallel between the violence of january 6th, 2021, and redemption, when insurrectionists on january 6th paraded the confederate flag in the u.s. capitol, arguably the most sacred ground in america. there was little doubt about the racist undertones of the rioters inspired by trump and egged on by other white conservative politicians. in both cases, some people resorted to mob violence when they couldn't achieve their goals through a free and fair election. michael eric dyson joins me now. good to see you, friend. >> good to see you. it's been a month of sundays. >> we'll talk about that. when we saw what happened on january 6th, a lot of people did think about redemption and about tulsa and about those kinds of things. talk about the connection. >> absolutely. think about the election of 1876. when the birth of the red shirts, who would roll through
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roughshod against black voters because they didn't want black people to vote. then they said don't just intimidate them because an intimidated voter is problematic. kill them. they were literally willing to deploy violence against voters so they could protect their ability to maintain a purely white, at that point, democratic party. and wade hampton ii was there, the politicians were trying to brag on the senate floor about suppressing the black vote and getting rid of it. so january 6th has always been on the calendar of african american people for wilding out white citizens who were incapable of tolerating and absorbing black citizenship. >> there's also this use of proxy violence, mete out violence through indirect means. what's happening with haitian americans, haitian migrants who are really saving this little town of springfield by being the labor that makes the economy work, are now being demonized to the point where one particular troll is saying they're eating peep, they're cannibals.
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they're eating your pets. the extremist with which donald trump is willing to go to is shocking but it doesn't seem like even that is new. >> it is not new. the ability to lie, to have mendacity as the heart of your menu of democracy is something that is ridiculous. donald trump amplifies it, and because you would think now in 2024, we would have far more political prudence, we could have greater insight about the nature of democracy, the give and take, so this notion that haitian folk are part of a cabal of cannibalests who are seeking to eat us, this is a projection psychologically of right wing political figures who are cannibalizing our very democracy and eating the flesh of those who oppose them, and it's not only ridiculous, it's tragic. >> talk about some of the people we will learn about in this book. this is a time when voting is on the minds of a lot of people, early voting has already started in some places.
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who will we learn about? >> a native american and indigenous fighter for freedom. mable pengwa lee, who was a chinese american, went on to get a ph.d. like her father and not only pastor her church but demand rights for freedom, but also, of course, the usual suspects, frederick douglass, how can you have a book without the most eloquent book of the 19th century and the tension between him and elizabeth cady statin when she wanted women to have the right to vote, and then she started making racist remarks and he was like, that ain't what we be talking about. so those kinds of issues there, and these people pop up, and ordinary citizens. people think the founding fathers were for democracy for everybody and voting. they were like, nah, we don't want the african american people voting, the enslaved people voting, women voting. let's come up with a rule, you have to own property. now, they gave it -- they punt it to the states.
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the federal government said let's let the states allow. new jersey was the only state to allow women to vote for a while. black people could vote in some states and not in others. so it was wildly unpredictable, wildly varied but ultimately, the struggle of black people consolidated forces in defense of truep democracy, like we were on january 6th when black women and black people continued to save this democracy. >> trying to stop people from voting, in the end, it is about what a full voting cohort would actually want. if anyone could vote, people would vote for fair wages, people would vote, right, they would vote for more freedom, for women's bodily autonomy. votes, then as you say fair wages are on the table. bodily autonomy is on the table. racial justice is on the table. wages are on the table. attempts to regulate are on the table, so all of that is there and our conservative brothers
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and sisters really don't want true democracy. the real religion in america is a white supremacist ethic at the heart of the white conservative movement and the real jesus happens to be white supremacy itself. >> at this moment it appears to be donald trump, because i have never seen anything like it in america. >> he got smoked the other day. >> he might just be like a bowl of orange cinders right now. >> she smoked them like a rack of ribs. >> we will leave it there. thank you very much. i never say that in an interview, but i will leave it there. coming up, a civil rights icon discusses her decision to endorse kamala harris and what it would mean for the world to see america elect a woman of color as president. president. ♪ citi's industry leading global payments solutions help their clients move money
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a signature line from the kamala harris presidential campaign is when we fight, we win. it is a call for action for a broad coalition fighting for the progressive future of america. civil rights icon myrlie evers- williams knows a thing or two about fighting. she and her husband, medgar evers, were partners in the struggle, fighting for voting rights and desegregation in the deeply divided south. naacp's first field secretary in mississippi fought against
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cruel laws and investigated the murder of emmett till. after he was assassinated by a white supremacist in 1963, she would fight even more for the killers conviction, achieving justice in 1994. myrlie evers-williams, now 91 years young is still fighting and carrying the baton for black women in politics and this week she endorsed vice president kamala harris for president. we sat down with her to discuss her historic endorsement. >> i chose to endorse ms. harris because i feel she is certainly more than competent to hold that position. not that she would go into it not knowing what it is all about. she's had experience. good experience. nasty experience.
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which is also important. it is important. i actually think it will be a glory hallelujah day if a woman were elected president. i think the world would be shocked. i think america would be shocked. and i think the shouting of joy would come after the shock. that is my hope. perhaps i will have to ask medgar tonight in my prayers, how would he feel about it? and he would probably answer back, take care of your own business. discussion ended. >> for myrlie evers-williams to witness, in her lifetime, the first black president and potentially the first black
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woman president is the outcome of the civil rights movement she helped shape. the movement that resulted in the civil rights act of 1964 and the voting rights act of 1965. for myrlie evers-williams, voting is a fundamental principle, one of the most important rights in american life. it is also a right that many civil rights leaders including her husband died for. >> we have the chance to make change that benefits all of us. and not to use it is shameful. >> which is why this inspires her about young americans today. >> the fact that they are involved. timmy is one heck of a big statement. that they care about their country. that they care that they have the opportunity to make change
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through voting. and not just push it aside. i am finding more and more young people. actively involved in politics. as i circle the country. i'm thrilled to death. i don't think young people are playing with the right to vote. the ability to vote. they want a piece of that pie that my generation has helped to build. >> isn't she great? that is tonight's "reidout". you can follow me on tiktok and instagram and follow our show accounts. "all in with chris hayes" starts now. tonight on "all in" --

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