life. i will tell you this about haitian people. you are not going to meet. a group of people who are more resilient, more educated, who have more dignity, who are more hard working, who have more respect. and who want to do nothing more than to contribute to this country and to this world. donald trump makes a point about he doesn't want people coming from certain countries. i would beseech him to go out and read a book. get off the golf course, visit haiti, visit africa and read that book and understand how history works. a lot of people come here because their countries have been destabilized by american foreign policy. okay? in 1915, america occupied haiti. so it is important that the president of the united states understands what he is talking about. >> sometimes you got to let them know and she did et best.

we miss her every day. thank you gang. you can catch the night cap saturday. before that, at 9:00 p.m. eastern tomorrow, make sure to watch msnbc live. democracy 2024. you can catch awesome conversations with me, rachel maddow, lawrence o'donnell, jen psaki. the whole crew. about this historic election. for now, for all of our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thanks for staying up late with us, see you at the end of monday. well. today started yet again with news of bomb threats in springfield, ohio. yesterday two elementary schools and the city hall, the dmv and the county court facilities had to close because of bomb threats.

today, two elementary schools were evacuated. in the wake of viral social media posts claiming haitian migrants were abducting people's pets in springfield in order to eat them. i should note the claims about haitian migrants eating pets in springfield are lies. there is no evidence to back up any of those claims. but that does not seem to matter. here's the thing. a week ago today, on all of twitter, there were only about 1,000 posts mentioning haitians migrants or immigrants eating animals. twitter is a very big place. so this was truly a fringe conspiracy theory. during the presidential debate tuesday night, trump used his microphone to bring that conspiracy theory to the 67 million people watching live.

and now, kids are being pulled from elementary school classrooms and canine units are sweeping the city's buildings from bombs. and right wing influencers from all over the country have descended on springfield to quote unquote report on this completely fabricated lie. you may be wondering how did this particular conspiracy theory get to donald trump in the first place? as it turns out, it is hard to say. because trump has surrounded himself with so many toxic fringy advisers that the pool of potential conspiracy theorists is just too large. look at a few of the people trump surrounded himself with on the night of the debate.

you may know her as libs of tiktok. libs of tiktok is famous for pushing anti-lgbtq content that has led to the harassment of teachers and librarians and doctors across the country. bomb threat theres a few years ago. it is quite a resume. the woman behind libs of tiktok is one of the people trump had in his inner circle on debate night. she is also one of the people who pushed the lie about haitian migrants eating pets. so that's one place trump may have gotten us. but beyond the trump war room, look at who trump is traveling with. someone who was with him backstage and came with him

into the spin room. let's talk about laura loomer. you may know her from her attempt to say that the parkland shooting was a hoax. or from when she handcuffed herself thanks to twitter's corporate headquarters wearing a yellow star of david on her chest to protest being banned by the site in 2018. that was before elon musk took over. loomer and trump have been joined at the hip all this week. she was pushing the lie about haitian migrants. just before pushing this pet eating conspiracy before spending this week with trump, a week ago today, laura loomer ate dog food on her show loomer unleashed.

no pun intended. i think. today for what is, whatever it's worth, trump tried to distance himself from her sort of. >> laura is a supporter. i don't control laura. she has to say what she wants. i know she is a big fan of the campaign. >> is she an adviser? >> i would say that she brings the spirit. >> if you ignore all the radicals and weird os trump has surrounded himself with. this conspiracy is there. jd vance himself was pushing this thing. from social media to his social life to his professional inner circle, trump has surrounded himself with conspiracy theorists or at the very least people who are willing to push

conspiracy theories in bad faith for personal or political gain. because of the way the republican party is now structured, once donald trump embraces something, well then, everyone else does, too. and trump is making sure his whole party feels welcome on this particular bandwagon. he was posting memes about it online. as the new york times put it today, the memes give the feel of an inside joke. a just kidding is implied. allowing political figures who might otherwise have hesitated to circulate debunked material to get in on it. and get in on it they sure did. texas senator ted cruz posted this image of cats with the subtitle please vote for trump so haitian immigrants don't eat us. he posted that with three laughing emojis. even the official account got in on it. the house judiciary committee. in arizona, the state's republican party brought the

memes into the real world putting up 12 billboards around phoenix that read eat less kittens. vote republican. while they are all laughing at the memes, there are real human beings in springfield feeling the consequences. people who are now only sharing their stories anonymously because they are too scared for their lives to identify themselves. [ spe aking in a global language ]

>> but hey, jd vance said not to let the cry babies and the medias dissuade you. keep the cat memes flowing. joining me now, tim, thank you for being here. to help us all figure out what exactly has happened. i feel the inherent nihilism of maga world and the trolls that surround it. it is a dark twisted sick game with decidedly real world consequences here for the brown people in this country. let me read you a quote from the new york times about how this was a natural evolution of trumpism. the mix of right wing politics, taboo shattering transgression fit with the discontent of the

internet's wilder fringes. this is a marriage that was sort of inevitable. >> it was. and look, we all saw this in 2016. as somebody who was an anti- trump republican back then, i was awash in social media and people sending sexually explicit memes, homophobic memes. it was out there on 4chan or whatever and trump elevated it and brought to the mainstream back then. we are seeing this now. evolve and grow offline as well. i decided there is somebody that said it better than i could. so i wanted to pull this up if you don't mind. here is jd vance, october 9, 2016. trump makes people i care about

afraid. immigrants, muslims. because of this, i find him represence able. god wants better of us. so, everything that jd vance said then is exactly right. people, god wants better than you. and the fact that jd vance is like the lead instigator of this now, the fact he demonstrated in 2016 that he knows that there are ramifications for this kind of rhetoric. encouraging others saying you are a patriot if you post these racist cat memes. shows just the deep corrupting darkness of maga and of trump's influence on our party. or my former party and our politics. >> i tend to see a direct

through line. this no cost cruelty. no cost in their eyes. and the focus of it is immigrants, brown people who shouldn't be herement we are at the point where that kind of nihilism, that kind of toxicity, that kind of dehumanization is something embraced by just regular old republicans in the party. not even people running for office. but just everyone jumps in on that bandwagon. >> it was just straight racism. haitian migrants are eating cats or whatever. this isn't a dog whistle. it isn't a clever, i guess it's a joke, but a straight racist joke. you can't imagine a scenario where they are pushing something about ukrainian migrants or belgian immigrants who are coming here and they are like oh, these people are

abducting your dogs and eating them. they would never say that. you can't imagine what that would sound like. which reveals just how plainly racist it is. and the fact that not only are many of the republicans getting in on it, but nobody is saying anything, back in 2016, 2018, in the early years of trump. there would be some republicans in congress that would say this grosses me out. i still like him for the policies. i don't like the tweets. you got at least that. you don't even get that now. the verbal acknowledgment that they know it is wrong. the party is fully on board for the grossest conspiracy mongering and racism. >> and now you see that this sort of, the side show of the internet lunatics is finding a place in the inner sanctum of the trump campaign. the fact that laura loomer is on the plane and at the 9/11

memorial. it tells you everything you need to know about where trump is headed on all of this. i think she said she would be fine being the trump press secretary. if he wins. that may seem like a twisted parody of what trump administration 2.0 might look like, but that is an actual prospect. i wonder what you make of marjorie taylor green of all people and lindsey graham sounding notes of caution about trump getting too close to laura loomer. congressman marjorie taylor greene called loomer's comments racist and lindsey graham has i believe also cautioned trump to keep his distance. but not in those words. first of all, how true do those words ring coming from marjorie

taylor greene and lindsey graham? >> i guess greene is right on this one. broken clocks and all. this whole thing, the whole thing is kind of absurd. right? that these congressional republicans, oh, there's a racist conspiracy monger on the trump plane! yeah. the person whose name is on the side of the plane fits that description. loomer is off the deep end. it is insane. you could not imagine any other nominee of any party having something of this nature be invited onto the plane. usually you invite the local mayors. religious leaders or something. this crazy internet troll is the american person that gets invited with them to multiple stops is lunacy. an it is not crazy. that's the people he is keeping

around. the most online members of the party were the ones around him. sitting next to him. >> they are the more normal end of the spectrum. like, that's how crazy things have gotten. i think it bears mentioning the left has memes too. the coconut tree thing. i think we have examples of that. there was a joke about jd vance and a couch. the difference being couches

are not people. jd vance is, but he can defend himself and nobody believed any of those memes were actually real. they were not bomb threating being called in. the toxicity and poison. it is just sort of, it is so segregated to that wing. and not the other side of the aisle. >> they want to be cruel to people. the jd vance couch meme which i didn't really love. but, the point you are making fun of the politician. right? and so, have a little bit of leeway there. spoofing people in power, there's a long history of this. it goes all the way back to the beginning of this country. that is win the normal bounds

of politics. creating fake conspiracy narratives was totally lies. like black people eat dogs. you would never say that about any other group. it is plainly due to race and immigrant status. yes. that is only happening on one side of the aisle, one political party and there is no reason to pretend otherwise. >> tim miller, it is always good to talk to you even when the subject matter is deeply distressing. thank you for spending your friday night here. coming up, kamala harris tries to woo voters in two pennsylvania counties donald trump won in 2020. we will tell you all about that. but first, republican justices on the north carolina supreme court do donald trump a solid by removing a third party challenger from the ballot and voters are going to pay the price. we'll explain next. pay the price. we'll explain next. camilla tried the new scent of gain relax flings and it changed everything.

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it was supposed to be the first state in the nation to send out 2024 general election ballots but instead, early voting in north carolina is officially on hold. that's because the state's republican controlled supreme court has granted third party candidate robert f. kennedy jr. his request to remove his name from the north carolina ballot. now, the republican justices on the court granted this request though it came five days after the states official deadline. nearly 3 million ballots that were already printed must now be destroyed. and that is forcing election officials to miss a key deadline mandated by the state the court's decision will shorten the early voting period

will affect millions of voters including those who attended kamala harris' massive rallies in the state yesterday. but there is someone who will likely benefit from this donald trump. who is currently tied with kamala harris. that is an achievement given that barack obama has been the only democratic nominee to win north carolina in nearly 50 years, the harris campaign believes it has a chance but only if people can actually vote. the latest peas is entitled rfk jr. has sabotaged early voting in a critical swing state. mark, it is so great to see you, i think a lot of people had no idea what was happening in north carolina and indeed, there are some developments tonight. but let's just first rewind to the outset of all of this. rfj jr. wants to get off the

ballot in the state. a transparently partisan maneuver to help the guy he endorsed. donald trump, and the courts decide hey, why not? can you talk a little bit about the process by which this happened? >> he waited days after the deadline in north carolina to remove his name from the ballot. and then he filed this overdue request. the election board said hey, we actually can't accommodate this. we have already printed millions of ballots. we have designed more than 2,300 ballots for every individual county and locality. we have to send them out under state law by september 6th. it will take us 23 days at least to do this. so we just can't accommodate what you are asking of us. he went to court and secured a 4-3 decision by the north carolina supreme court. a court controlled by elected republicans who issued i think a lawless and rather shameless decision. accusing the election board and the state's very hard working and underpaid election

officials of engaging in misconduct of attempting to undermind his request because they somehow didn't read his mind and anticipate earlier he would seek to withdraw his name from the ballot. the state supreme court ordered the county board of elections to violate the law. to violate state law. which requires unambiguously they go out by september 6th to destroy 3 million ballot as you said to redesign more than 2,300 ballots and try to do all of this before the federal deadline of september 21st which congress has said these ballots have to go out to overseas and military voters. now tonight, the state board of elections is saying that they have raced to accommodate this order. they have purchased special printers and stationed them around the state to reprint millions of ballots. they will spend probably millions of dollars to try to get these ballots out by september 24th to the general public.

that means they will start going out more than two weeks after they were required to. they are still encouraging people to do all this as fast as possible. because they don't know if they will be able to run this as smoothly as they hoped. >> it is a key part of it. i believe in wake county alone it will cost $300,000. 55,000 in durham county. election workers have to work through the weekend to accommodate rfk jr. , a proxy for trump. howdies tubbed are you by the decision of the state supreme court and how much do you reed into that in terms of any future concerns? >> the north carolina supreme court had ruled years ago the state constitution has the provision that guarantees free elections. all elections shall be free. the north carolina supreme court said that restricts

partisan gerrymandering. when republicans flipped the north carolina supreme court in 2023, the first thing they did was overturn the decisions, got the free elections clause and say actually, this is a meaningless clause. when rfk went to the north carolina supreme court and said he wanted to be removed from the ballot, those same republican justices cited the free elections clause. as the reason why he could be removed and the entire early voting process had to be abridged and thrown into chaos. it is sheer partisan hackery. it tells me these guys are very much putting their thumb on the scale for trump this upcoming election. we know more democrats vote early and vote by mail in north carolina than republicans. seems like these justices are doing everything they can to

cause chaos, wreak havoc and make it more difficult for democrats to cast their votes to try to help trump prevent kamala harris from making this the tipping point state. >> such an important point. all states matter. but the fact of the matter is kamala harris did two events in north carolina yesterday, the campaign believes this could be the tipping point for a potential victory. can we talk a little more about what's happening in nevada or pennsylvania? do you have thoughts on the efforts going on in either of those states? >> yeah, in pennsylvania republicans are fighting hard to require the nullification of mail ballots. that are dated incorrectly. a minor error that shouldn't matter. the state supreme court said we will not decide that issue yet. that leaves it as a bomb under the table if that election is

close. in nevada, one of trump's own lawyers is representing jill stein. green party candidate for pet asking the supreme court to put her back after she was kicked off. no big mystery why a trump attorney would be representing jill stein here. this is all efforts to reduce kamala harris' margins to ensure in a close election, they can flip it toward trump or if it goes toward harris, to claim there was fraud or wrong doing and deny the legitimacy of the results. >> you are telling me trump doesn't just want to have an open system where third party candidates get their due and get their voices heard? i can't imagine. mark joseph stern, everyone should read your piece. it is alarming and you need to know what is happening at the state level. thanks. >> thanks. coming up, donald trump gets another small win in

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her own body. and not have her government telling her what to do. vice president kamala harris was in johnstown and wilksbury, pennsylvania. both in counties donald trump won by significant margins in 2020. the democrats see reproductive freedom as a winning issue that could persuade moderates and republicans to vote blue in november. it is something that tramples understands. which is why he refused to say if he would veto a national abortion ban and also made a kind of garbled argumentment in favor of what he called fertilization. the head of planned parenthood is urging harris to continue to connect the dots. it is not just abortion bans. there are implications for contraception, ivf, other forms

of sexual and reproductive health care that will impact women, families, and communities. joining me now is the president and ceo of the planned parenthood action fund. it is great to see you. thanks for joining me. i'm interested in the choice vice president kamala harris made today. that are decideically trump territory. luzerne county, trump got 56.7% of the vote. in cabria, trump got 68.1%. it seems doubtful abortion is enough to win the counties but seems like the harris campaign thinks they can shave off enough voters using this issue in particular that she improves her overall statewide margins. can you talk a little bit about

how you are seeing abortion target the center of the electorate? >> yeah, let me be clear, the vice president has connected the dots on all of these issues. she understands that the fundamental right to control your own body is also related to contraception. it is also related to ivf and our democracy. she has done a beautiful job really getting into the granular of what that means in people's practical lives. telling the stories as she has done during the debate. going into the belly of the beast as she is doing now, in pennsylvania, counties that are rich in support for trump. it is really testing the assumption of what we know. that the majority of americans support access to reproductive freedom and she will find the voters and make the case to

them that you know, it is one thing to support and stand in reproductive freedom and it is also critically important to elect champions for reproductive freedom if you want to ensure that a state like pennsylvania which currently has access to abortion does not actually end up with a national abortion ban under donald trump. effectively. >> you know what? i think it is so striking with the argument she is making. we have a national candidate for president. a woman who is able to tell the stories of the women who have been affected by what she calls the trump abortion bans. it can't help but move people. and basically stun them into their senses. and i think the right is understanding that. reacted with disbelief today. here is what he had to say.

>> can someone track down the women kamala harris says are bleeding out in parking lots because roe v. wade was overturned? don't hold your breath. >> as it turns out, alexis was able to track down a woman. because these stories unlike haitian migrants eating pets, are real stories. and it is a sign i think of just how critically important it is to tell women's stories and how effective the tactic is. can you talk a little bit about the evolution on this? >> look, it has been heartbreaking. public stories that have been sent to hospital parking lots to wait until they are just a little bit more in danger of

other lives for a doctor to justify the treatment. it is the first time i heard one of those stories. was during sb8 in texas a year before dobbs as they were testing what it would look like to push such a ban through. now we are here, hearing more of them. look, it is astonishing to me that they would be questioned. you know. i think that we are in a moment where people shouldn't have to tell their stories in such a challenging way. their privacy. we are asking them to share the most intimate part of their lives and experiences and prove that. story telling is what helps us break down the stigma.

what the president is doing out there in terms of educating people is trying to make it pain to folks this is not a game. this is people's lives. when you don't have access to health care, people experience. and when you put limitations on what doctors can do to support their patients, you ask them to call lawyers before they provide care. these are the kinds of things that can happen. so that disruption is the best way to put a name and a face on you know, the data. right? almost half of all women are living in a state with an abortion ban. more than half of black women are living in a state with an abortion ban. so we expect to see many more of these stories. but they are brave for those who are sharing them with us right now. >> yeah. and i have to say as a matter to react to these stories with disbelief and say prove it does not seem like the best response. it is great to hear from you tonight. thank few for your time. >> thank you. coming up, mary joins me to discuss defendant trump and the

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more charges were dropped yesterday in atlanta, georgia. it's all politically inspired. it's all against their political opponent. we won the big case. they said the big case, the big case. i completely won that case.

the documents case. in florida. case was thrown out. the deranged jack smith. deranged prosecutor. >> that was former president and convicted felon donald trump earlier today taking the press through some of the well trodden territories of his grievances saying that the charges are against him for political reasons. there is no question his legal strategy of delay and delay some more appear to be paying off at least for now. joining me to discuss all that is mary mccord. copost of the podcast prosecuting donald trump. yesterday, judge scott mcafee in georgia dismissed two of the felony counts. still eight felony counts remain in his election

racketeering case. i wonder if the concern is the immunity decision do you think the georgia case survives? because judge mcafee has not ruled on that yet. >> i think judge mcafee will have to go through any allocations. that is not what happened in his ruling yesterday. he makes it very clear in a footnote, my ruling here is not based on the immunity decision. it was not briefed or argued. i'm not considering it. his ruling was based on arguments that frankly the entire indictment should be dismissed based on the supremacy clause. and an argument that basically the federal government is the only place where these kinds of charges could be brought.

which is of course interesting because in federal court, of course, donald trump's lawyers are saying none of this can be brought in federal court, either. and what judge mcafee did, he relied on an 1890s case. not kidding. 1909, that basically stands for the principle that when you have perjury in a federal court and there is a federal perjury statute that applies to it, the three charges he dismissed were charges that involved one, the complaint that donald trump and john eastman had filed in federal court that contained false statements. he said that is something that federal charges could take care of so we don't have a state interest. and then also, the transmission of false statements, the ballot certificates to the federal court in georgia which is one of the many destinations where

they have to submit their certificate. the archivist, the president of the united states. those submissions to a federal court similarly could be prosecuted in federal court under federal law. therefore, the state doesn't have an interest. what is significant is he denied the motion to dismiss the entire indictment. and there are plenty of other false statement charges that remain. including the electors creating these false certificates themselves and transmitting them to the archivist, to the governor, et cetera. so it is a pretty minor change. there are many, many counts that remain includeing the rico count against donald trump. >> don't tell donald trump that though because it is all going away in his mind. tanya, there will be deadlines

coming up. trump's response is due on the 17th. the government replied to donald trump these are briefings. my question to you, are we going as the public to get any of this? any of the arguments here? are we going to see any of the filings? do you think we will see any of the evidence now? some of it is under seal. do you expect it will remain under seal? clearly in the closing weeks of this election, if there is more evidence brought up about trump's potential election interference, that is a bomb shell. the political climate we now exist in. >> so it is unclear because her order did not say anything about filing under seal. at the argument last week, there was no mention by the government or mr. trump's attorneys or the judge of

filing under seal. now i do think that there are protective orders about confidential information so it could be that there are certain things that the special council's office might submit in their briefing that they might think needs to be under seal. in which case, they might file under seal. and then the judge would probably order them to redact only those things that needed to be kept under seal. and file a public document that includes everything that didn't have to be redacted. we have certainly seen that in other cases including in the mar-a-lago case. but that was not part of any of the briefing or any of the argument or the order as it stands right now. what we expect to see and i do think some of this will be publicly available, is exactly what the special council said he would do. outline their reasoning for why the superseding indictment does not charge any official acts

with respect to the fraudulent elector scheme. the speech on january 6th that incited a mob. and they would also try to establish why the conversations with mike pence, the pressure i should say on mike pence to refuse to count the legitimate electoral ballots from the swing states. they will argue that official act presumption of immunity with respect to that is rebutted. because that was not the president acting in his official, you know, acting with respect to something that he has any authority over. >> that will be a very explosive series of arguments. regardless of whether we actually hear about them. mike pence and his conversations with donald trump is something i think everybody wants to know more about. mary, it's great to have your level of expertise with us here on a friday night. thanks for your time. >> thank you. coming up, a programming note you do not want to miss, we'll be right back. te you do we'll be right back. hollywood white smile.ant t

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a quick programming note before we go. last weekend many of my excellent msnbc colleagues and i came together for a special event in brooklyn that connected us, the host, with you, the viewer, in person. here's a conversation i had at that fan fest with my coworker and friend. >> we've got to talk about kamala harris, y'all. basically, right. people want to question what her background is, basically she is alex plus me. >> you're welcome! >> just look at this stage, get in your mind. a caribbean american lady. >> our moms noticed. our moms did not, not notice.

>> if you are able to make it to brooklyn last weekend and you still want in on the action tomorrow night is your night. you can catch more of a conversation with joy during msn d.c. live, democracy 2024, a special two-hour presentation of our premier event. you will get a behind-the- scenes look, plus discussions with more of your favorite msnbc host, including rachel, lauren, chris and all of the missing people who are in that picture it there. watch msnbc live, democracy 2024, saturday at 9:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc and streaming on peacock. that is our show for tonight. now it's time for the last word with allie. >> that just made me sad. because it was almost all of the people in that picture. almost. >> you know what? forget the picture. what matters is the event and what's going to be airing. >> it was a good event. and that was a good line, i