welcome back to the weekend. we're just 51 days from election day. 51 days. and in person early voting officially kicks off tomorrow in pennsylvania. that state's 19 electoral votes are seen as must win by both campaigns and that's why vice president harris will be in pennsylvania on tuesday. she'll visit michigan on thursday and wisconsin on friday. now part of harris' focus reaching voters outside of the democratic base as politico puts it. harris team sees room to grow many of the types of voters located in the smaller cities. ex-urban locals and rural areas she's visiting. older mostly noncollege educated white voters. joining us now, former homeland security advisor and former counterterrorism advisor to

vice president mike pence. olivia troye. >> you were on stages and in rooms. if i told you ten years ago you were going to be in some of these places you never would have believed me. when you were out on the trail talking to some of these are the republican voters what are you hearing especially post debate? >> i think they're seeing a chance of hope for our country and a lot of the conversations i'm having is they're feeling like a sense of belonging. again which is i think has been missing across the republican voting population for the people that don't identify with maga. don't identify with donald trump. it seems like they feel okay, i'm seeing others like me. and i think that's important. i think that's what we've been working on is getting these people in a room and saying you actually have each other's backs and you'll work together and we're going to win this election together and that's really valuable right now.

>> permission structure as you would say. >> it is. >> it's an important part of it. a lot of folks have had their hands creating that space, olivia, for republicans who now seem ready to come out and endorse this ticket. what do you say about those some other republicans who have not -- there's been a lot of pressure. not that he really cares, on george bush. he's his own person. he's stepped away from the politics the day he left office and has not engaged. there are others from your former colleagues who served with you who could step in to a space. do you see that structure being extended to them in some way? how do you see more republicans coming in? this is important for those swing state areas where those

voters are going to make a difference marginally in wisconsin and michigan, for example. >> yeah, they could make a difference. that's why we're so focused on making sure we're talking to them, reaching out and getting them involved. i would love for george bush to come forward. i think that would be an incredibly powerful voice. i think you're seeing bush alumni. i'm a bush alum. i worked in the bush administration. you're seeing romney aline up nigh. they're saying we don't stand for this, we're going to support kamala harris. i think it'd be incredible. he's got less than 51 days we have left. he's got time. >> that's the point. >> laura bush would be great too. right? >> so you were on the campaign trail with mesa, arizona mayor john giles recently. we've had him here on the show. he's been at rallies in arizona for vice president harris.

i'm wondering what that experience on the campaign trail is like with the two of you going out, talking to conservative voters, you know, asking them to support vice president harris. >> yeah, it was the same day that trump was in arizona spreading his fear mongering and his divisive rhetoric that he does. nothing was new there. we had a packed house. we had a really good tub turnout. there were independents there. so we both spoke. we talked about, you know, what this is. what it isn't. we talked about john mccain. we talked about his legacy. i talked about me feeling like it's my moral obligation having lived the trump administration firsthand to really reach out to my fellow republicans and say this is a moment that's very different and this is a danger that he poses and why. you know, and i think given what happened at the debate and the stuff that trump said and how just embarrassing it was to see a republican presidential

nominee sitting up there saying what he did, that i don't even want to repeat because i think it's so heinous. we're seeing the threats that have resulted about what he said about haitian migrants. we talked about that. i think a lot of the people in the room, they were talking to each other and i think what i saw is what i said earlier. the importance of connecting with each other. what i said to them, we've got to have each others backs in this. this is a better way forward for all of us. you may not -- it may feel weird. yes, i know you're going to vote for a democrat but those values are the same values that she's representing right now which i think is important to remind people she's talking about stronger arm foreign policy, supporting our democracy and not undermining government institutions. those are traditionally things we used to be really strong at at the republican party. >> the thing about some of this that i find somewhat amusing and irritating is that a lot of those republicans who feel so weird, you know, i just can't

vote for a democrat. well, you weren't whining when democrats were voting for ronald reagan. you didn't find that weird. >> that's true. >> you actually said that that was noble and important that they do that. and trust me, that was all about policy and the direction of the country. this is about whether or not we will be a country in four or five years and, you know, you kind of check the weirdness and recognize that the country means more than the political affiliation because that's waning. that comes and goes. that republican party as yowie and i both know no longer exists. >> yeah. >> we're either going to go into that ash heap and find a phoenix and rise up something different or we just going to do something different later on. that's for another time. right now we have more important business in front of the country. >> i'll say one thing that i will share was i had a conversation with someone that was a delegate back in 2016. >> for trump? >> yes, for trump. she said at the end of the day

she was watching his rhetoric and she abstained and she talked about the threats and the bullying that happened in the aftermath and how scared and lonely she was. i think that's important to acknowledge because that is what happens now in the republican party when you say no i don't identify with this extremism. i mean this is more awful. >> alicia and i were on the same wavelength. donald trump is vowing to prosecute people he identifies as his political foes. that could mean anyone that speaks out against him. the headline is trump is increasingly vowing to prosecute political foes and others he says are corrupt if he wins. legal experts said trump will face obstacles. all be laughing. they could decline to prosecute. the recent immunity decision gives the president the power to order the attorney general to indict any individuals they wish without facing legal consequences themselves. makes me think about how he's

attacked ruby freeman and shea moss, election workers who they literally went before congress and spoke out. the delegates you're talking about. i'm thinking about what he just said in that interview about how these republicans coming out against him are just rinos and he'll call people out. he's attacked judge juan merchan's daughter and his family. did that play a role why where the judge wants to save the sentencing until after the election. he has targets on peoples backs. >> i think that connects to the denaturalization of effort that he talks about the fact that he wants to deport -- he talks about immigrants. he also talks about american citizens and wanting to deport them. where i see the dots connecting is there is no protected class. there are his cronies, perhaps, until you cross him. but when he's talking about immigrants he's talking about you and me. when he's talking about political foes he's talking about all four. there is no other here.

>> yeah, it reminds me i just remember i was in the west wing once and i heard stephen miller and they were talking about, you know, deporting mass deportations. when they talk about the raids now, they were talking about that in 2019. i remember this vividly. i remember hearing someone say well i mean there's a difference between legal resident aliens and stephen miller was like no, we need to purge these people out of the country. i was thinking to myself right, legal to you and rule of law means nothing. that to me is frightening because you're right. that's why i'm getting the threatening voice mails from people that tell me to go back to mexico. i'm a u.s. citizen. yes, i'm a mexican american living here but i'm a u.s. citizen. that's their mentally. that's how they're looking at it broadly. when they talk about race. when they spread these narratives we should take them seriously. i think if you are not a white supremacist extremist that falls in line with their agenda you don't fit in into their

vision of america. >> if he may have concepts of plans but stephen miller you better believe he has a plan. >> 2019 you heard this in the white house? >> as a mexican american sitting in the west wing. just imagine that. >> so we'll end as we began talking about creating that permission structure and that bridge. we have reporting reagan alumni endorsing harris in a letter from republicans who worked on the president ronald reagan famously spoke about a time for choosing. while he is not here to experience the current moment, we who worked with him know he would join us in supporting the harris-walz ticket. the time for choosing we face today is a choice between integrity and demagoguery and the choice must be harris-walz. goes exactly to what we've been talking about. >> when we think about -- i think about napron all the time because i think about how much

trump lauds praise on putin. he would not stand for that. he mentioned people in the debate and the people he lauded were authoritarian figures. he didn't laud other figures across the world. >> olivia troye, such a treat to have you with us. >> thank you so much. symone is going to join our friends on meet the press. you can dvr that. there's much more of the weekend ahead, including new comments from jd vance on trump's racist lie. next illinois attorney general kwame raoul joins us. this is the weekend on msnbc. s dandruff protection, minimal ingredients. job done. an alternative to pills, voltaren is a clinically proven arthritis pain relief gel, which penetrates deep to target the source of pain with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory medicine directly at the source. voltaren, the joy of movement.

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breaking just moments ago. new comments jd vance made to meet the press host kristen welker. tripling down on haitian immigrants. >> i hear you saying they're baseless. i'm not repeating them because i invented them out of thin air. i'm repeating them because my constituents are saying these things are happening there's no evidence. >> a migrant 30 miles away eating a cat. clearly these rumors are out there because constituents are seeing it and some of them are talking about it. >> attorney general and haitian american kwame raoul joins us now. >> good morning, sir. >> good morning.

>> i'm just really bothered that this is part of the conversation we have to have with you, sir. that our -- that leaders in our country believe that this is the kind of discourse we should have during a presidential campaign. demonizing a community of hard working american citizens. i just want to get your thoughts out of the gate. what these words mean. how they've landed and impacted your community and other communities that are touched by this insanity. and now the vice presidential nominee of the republican party is, you know, doubling and tripling down on this. i just don't. put it in context for us so we can get a better feel for how we should be responding collectively. >> yeah, so thank you for

having me first of all. as the week has evolved even my perspective as to how to respond to those ridiculous amplification of these debunked rumors has evolved; right? you know, i was accepting of people immediately telling jokes about it. the memes and so forth. but then you think about the fact that people follow this guy. we've seen the threats that have evolved. hate toward haitians is not a new thing. i spoke out six years ago as he talked about s-hole countries. we don't want people from s- hole countries. when this articulation, this amplification of such debunked rumors reaches others we have seen the results this week with the bomb threats and other threats that have descended

upon springfield, ohio. it's a shame that my counterpart in ohio has further fanned the flames on this to have the vice presidential candidate continue to do so. i want to lift up the governor of ohio who i actually have met before and i have traveled to haiti before and has an affinity for haiti for debunking, being the type of republican that will stand up and debunk these ridiculous rumors. >> i want you to take a listen, attorney general, to a conversation that our colleague had with the executive director of springfield's haitian community and support center. take a listen. >> they just believe that their words have no impact. it's not true. so immigrants in springfield, especially haitians are so concerned for their lives.

>> is this really a trauma on top of a trauma for haitian immigrants? >> definitely that's what it is. >> anyone who is the descendent of a disporic community understands the mourning that immigrants carry with them day in and day out. you know the truth of springfield. haitian immigrants reinvigorated a community that desperately needed life breathed into it. not only are we hearing this awful racist story. it's the opposite of the truth. >> exactly. the economy in springfield is growing as a result. i come from the city of chicago. the vision of a man who settled in haiti centuries ago of having a place of trade in the midwest along this wilderness lake. i'm the son of a haitian immigrant who was a physician

who delivered healthcare to even those who could not pay for it for years. there are haitians who fought in the revolutionary war for the freedom of this country. to have this man who once served as president of the united states incite this hate towards our community is disturbing. >> to pick up on that, and particularly since this is sunday morning i want to take you to church for a moment, general, and share with you words from an atlantic op-ed regarding trump's lies. what a test they are for the christian community. quote, seeing praise songs in a church service while trafficking in the bearing of false witness against people who fled for their life who seek to rebuild a life for their children after crushing poverty and persecution, is more than just cognitive dissonance. it's modeling the devil himself, whom jesus called the father of lies. it is in this vein that donald

trump, jd vance and key leading republicans act and behave. what do you want people to know about the haitian community, you've touched on some of the contributions for sure. but at this moment, bomb threats, schools being threatened, children afraid to go out. what should we as a nation be thinking about in terms of how we approach this and things we should be offering in rebuke of the father of lies, if you will. >> i think it's important to go back to some of what i just mentioned. our country's origin that haitians, soldiers fought in

the bloody siege of savannah. haitians have made contributions. we are part haitian americans are part of the american fabric from the very beginning of this country. we're a strong people too. we're a people who want to work. i'm proud to be elected statewide in the state of illinois where we don't have a huge haitian population like in some other areas. i'm somebody who has demonstrated my willingness to work and serve my state and my country and there are people like me at all levels of work that are doing so including in springfield, ohio. >> i want to just quickly pull this up from 2020. this is the new york times the justice department establishing offices to denaturalize immigrants. you've heard what the president did on the debate stage. he tried to say immigrants were taking jobs from black and hispanic americans. in reality it's a distinction

without a difference. he's trying to separate us from them when in reality he sees us as one in the same. >> he's trying to do it in so many had ways. he's a divider in chief. i'm so glad that vice president harris had the temperament and the patience to respond. she almost slipped there one moment but to respond to try to unite our country. not fall into his name calling, his division. his dangerous inciting of hate and the threats that we've seen in springfield, ohio. >> illinois attorney general kwame raoul, thank you for being with us. next the new warning from it national security leaders about the possibility after second trump term. you are watching the weekend.

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chief. during the debate trump refused to say whether he wants ukraine to win its war with russia. mere hours later secretary of state antony blinken reiterated america's strong support for the country while in kyiv. >> we want ukraine to win. support for ukraine will endure because it doesn't depend on any one country. any one party. any one election. >> joining us now retired major general randy manner. welcome, general. good to see you. >> good morning. thank you. >> it's important to underscore just how unique and rare this moment and this list is. the choice to come out politically in favor of a candidate period. tell me about what you see as the stakes. >> this is something that number one whenever we took the oath of office to defend the constitution against all

enemies foreign and domestic we take it seriously. it's a lifetime oath. when we take it off we're able to speak our mind. that's why literally as part of this organization while there were ten people that signed the letter last week, the reality is there are hundreds of us that will be revealed in the weeks ahead. we stand united that this is not about liberal policies or conservative policies. this is about quite bluntly a dictatorship versus not a dictatorship. that's what's at stake here. >> that's a very important element of all of this. i'm so glad you framed it that way. that's how i see this election myself. for a lot of republicans like me, you know, people sit there how could you. no, this is not about the policy x or the policy y. this is about what our country is and isn't. what it strives to be and what

some leaders, using that word loosely wants to pull them into. in that vein, you look at this idea of commander in chief. particularly for many women in military service, the oaths that are sworn to our constitution and to follow the leadership of that commander in chief. for me that debate was a moment where kamala harris could show she had the chops to be commander in chief. how do you think she did? >> i think she did exceptionally well. the one thing that disturbs me greatly. i do appeal to all of the veterans and the military and the parents of veterans and military spouses of those people, this is the only -- trump was the only person in the history of the united states to call its military and veterans losers and suckers. i am terribly insulted for myself, my father was a vietnam

era veteran. lifetime career officer. my son a retired air force officer search and rescue. we have a history of public service. i find it just despicable that the commander in chief says that. i'm working very hard -- for example i have to be careful. i am bipartisan. i voted for reagan, for example. i'm proud of that vote that i did. at the same time i voted both sides of the aisle. as i mentioned, for all the people who are listening. this is not about it being conservative or liberal. we are past that. trump is truly a clear and present danger to our country. we have to stop him now. >> given everything that you're laying out this binary choice between continuing to be a democracy or becoming an autocracy. there's a list that comes out whether it's three people or 30 people who are for military who

support the ex-president. what is motivating them? >> we are all motivates. >> no, not you. the people who would support the ex-president. >> oh, the ex-president. in my opinion and by the way, i'm an older white male. elijah westbrook i believe that he appeals to white men who are afraid of change. who perhaps in cases are less educated who don't want to see things evolve and change the way that our country has from even before it was established with the declaration of independence and our constitution in 1787. i believe that those people that are supporting him believe he will bring things back to the way it once was where white men quite frankly reigned supreme. that's my opinion. >> even if it that means remaking his own image in the image of victor orban? >> it's funny how his heros are

all of the dictators across our country. it's not funny at all, but it is. >> it's a tell. >> it's a tell. many people don't even know who those people are, unfortunately. they are just appealing to him because he's allowing them to say these very evil hateful thoughts that quite frankly some of them had buried deep inside of themselves. >> president trump recently went to arlington for a photo opportunity at the grave site -- at the invitation of the family of someone laid to rest there. but that moment to me coupled with -- and you referenced already the losers and suckers comment. coupled with the denigration of gold star families. coupled with the absolute disrespect of john mccain's

service to the nation. there's a real arc there. >> oh, absolutely. >> that is very plain for people to see about how the man with bone spurs feels about our military. >> that's absolutely right. my father is buried in arlington. it is hallowed ground. i find it absolutely disgusting and despicable we had a president who was giving a thumbs up in front of a grave site. that just defies any type of normal behavior we would expect from a senior leader or an ex- president. it's just so disturbing. and, again, i want to appeal to every single parent that's out there. is this the kind of person you want leading your son or daughter or spouse into harms way when he despises them? does not understand why they would ever possibly join the military. this is not who we want. >> i've only got about 30 seconds left. i do want to ask you for those voters who know they're not going to vote for trump but

consider harris and have questions about whether or not a woman can be president. that is of course a form of bias. to put a finer point on that have a question about whether a woman can be the commander in chief. >> absolutely positively, yes. absolutely. vice president harris has demonstrated that leadership. she absolutely has what it takes. i believe strongly that she will be an excellent commander in chief. >> major general randy manner, thank you so much for coming on. looking forward to hearing more from you. >> absolutely. >> i would like to as well. >> next, preventing another effort to overturn a presidential election. michigan secretary of state jocelyn benson joins us after the break. you're watching the weekend. ek. we realize some home maintenance jobs aren't worth the risk. that's when we call leaffilter to protect our gutters. leaffilter's patented filter technology keeps debris out of your gutters for good, guaranteed.

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department of homeland security has just designated january 6, 2025 when congress will certify the 2024 electoral college vote a quote, national special security event. that will allow for a heightened level of security similar to events like the state of the union and the super bowl. it comes as six secretaries of state testified before congress about the importance of a secure democracy. >> we cannot have a secure democracy if we do not protect the security of the people who

administer our elections. right now we are enduring unrelenting harassment and threats. these threats are a direct result of the spread of false information about the security and accuracy of our elections. >> that was michigan secretary of state jocelyn benson. she joins us now. >> good morning to you. want to start with the way back machine. because way back four years ago 2020 you experienced firsthand what the ugliness of not protecting our elected officials look like. as you know, you had to deal with the threats to you, your family. we have speaker mike johnson saying, you know, that he has a different view about this whole idea of ramped up security for our officials. let's take a listen to what he has to say here. >> what do you think of january

6 now being designated as a national security event. do you think that's necessary? >> i didn't even hear that that happened. who did that? >> dhs designated it a national security event. >> sounds like politics to me. >> sounds like politics. what say you? >> well it sounds like a recognition of what we've been living through over these last few years and the tragedy we saw at the u.s. capitol. it sounds to me like basic law enforcement and national security experts recognizing the importance of ensuring there's heightened security at a moment when there will i hope be a peaceful transition of power and recognition of the will of the people on january 6, 2025. >> michael steele took us on the way back machine. i want to push us forward. i want to you to listen to what

senator mullins had to say about certifying the next election. >> if trump loses and every state certifies the results of their election will you accept a peaceful transfer of power? >> it's hard to say what you're going to do and what you're not. my job is to make sure the regularities are within the standard that the federal government puts in place, which is us. what is the regularities we're willing to accept. if it it's past those then absolutely not. >> if every state certifies the election results. they have their own processes in place. >> if the elections are certified under the standards they put forth. because every state sets their own state election laws; right? >> so given they are significant the predicate to do this all over again how are secretaries of state like you responding and preparing? >> first, the truth and the facts are on the side of secure elections. not the side of these elected officials, politicians, members of congress who seem to be unwilling to recognize that if you lose an election the proper

thing to do is to respect the will of the people and not try to undermine or delegitimize it. that said, part of what we are doing is trying to get ahead of these lies and frankly veiled threats to ensure citizens know their power in this moment. that power is rooted not just in accessing the vote and voting but in telling the truth about the security of our processes. in michigan we've launched a democracy ambassadors program. that enables any citizen to sign up and get weekly updates to secure the process and how to direct people who have questions about everything from are u.s. citizens voting and only u.s. citizens voting in our elections to all the things we do to ensure only valid votes are counted. we as citizens need to respond to these comments by politicians. by ensuring that we know the truth about our elections and secretaries of state are helping to equip citizens with that knowledge and with knowledge of where to go for

trusted information. >> so you have detroit news reporting that -- i just can't even believe this. michigan gop lawmaker says secretary of state benson will be prosecuted if trump wins. however michigan state representative matt maddox who received trump's endorsement for the state house didn't identify what specific crimes benson had committed and instead pointed to a series of election practices, some of which benson wasn't directly involved in, as violations. this is the world you're now asked to conduct the next election in. where by virtue of your office and service to your state you are threatened by a state rep for crimes that you didn't commit, one. and for things that you probably had no control or say

over. this is not just your state though. what are secretaries of states doing and planning for in other states around matters like this because you do have one piece that's not a part of this. you have folks who are now election deniers who are solidly all up in the trump space that this time he's going to win the election come hell or high water who are now a part of the organization itself. who have won local elections and posts who have been appointed to serve on behalf of local republican parties. how are you preparing for that part of the job? >> i think two things. one election officials across the country are responding to this rhetoric. you're right. it's not just happening in michigan. it's happening elsewhere. these threats. these challenges that are a direct result of the former

president. the tirades that not rooted in fact. but sort of baseless allegations against our integrity on a regular basis. quite inflammatory. it's no surprise to see other lower level officials repeating those types of accusations and threats around the country. it doesn't change our commitment as election officials to simply ensuring the law is followed. that our elections go smooth. that they are secure and that everyone knows how to access their vote and have faith their vote is counted. so we will double down on our voter education efforts and we will spend a lot of time working through courts to defend ourselves against baseless and merit lawsuits that time and time again are dismissed or thrown out. all that to say is we will try to cut through that noise that some are trying to intentionally create, i believe, to set the stage to potentially true to challenge election results after the fact if they don't like them. but we as election officials are professionals. we are bipartisan.

we are committed to doing our jobs with integrity and transparency and will continue to do that. then invite anyone with sincere questions about the process to join us. be an election worker so you can see firsthand just how many secure layers and protocols we have in place to ensure only valid votes and every valid vote is counted. >> michigan secretary of state jocelyn benson. much more ahead for the weekend. mark your calendars for this coming friday. from russia with lev. features former trump insider lev parnas and pulls back the scheme. that's this friday at 9:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc after special editions of the rachel maddow show.

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and the bottom line is we know what we stand for. >> that was the vice president last night. why i thought it was important was because here we are locked in the craziness that donald trump has set for us talking about how a lie from a private facebook page has somehow now become something that is amplified by a sitting u.s. senator. when there are so many problems that actually are in need of solving. so many structural things including just the right to vote that need to be protected. we can't get to any of that because we're living -- >> spending all our time in crazyland talking about eating cats and having jd vance double down on well i saw -- there's a video. did you see the video? and could you share it with the rest of us. i mean look, you get to a point where the ridiculousness of all

of this just you get tired. you're exhausted by it. >> he wants people to be exhausted by it. >> he wants you to be exhausted. exactly. he wants you to be tired so you're so tired you don't vote. you're so tired you check out because the whole thing is bad. that's why what the vice president said is so important. the work is hard. and it starts with actually taking a piece of paper and checking a box and signing a name and getting registered. then taking the next piece of paper thatment cops with you with a bunch of names that you got to pick somebody. that process is harder than anything else we do in this country. why? because there's so few people who participate in it. so it's got to be hard. it's got to be difficult. because so few of us give a dam enough to actually take two pieces of paper, one where you

register and one where you vote and do that. >> there's also the reality that when interest is the highest in the run up to election day it's also the hardest to vote. we could be making it easier for people. >> but then you get the next pieces of that. then you have state legislatures who don't want you to sign those two pieces of paper. when you do have your interest, you can't participate because they have torn up the paper and made it harder for you to do it. that's why you have to overwhelm the system this november with your vote. start by registration. get your behind registered. no excuse. and then grab that other piece of paper and vote this november. >> there is much more of that ahead coming up at 10:00 a.m. eastern on velshi. exposing project 2025. he's joined by michigan senator to discuss the far right playbook's plan for america's agriculture and nutrition. ricu.

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eastern right here. be sure to follow us on social media at the weekend msnbc. velshi continues our amazing coverage. i give it to you, my friend. it is now yours. >> thank you. and i -- look, i want to -- i don't want her to feel badly about this. i've got steele coming up on my show. on friday it was what, international bald and beautiful day or something like that? we'll be talking about baldness at about 10:20. alisha, you're welcome to be involved in in the conversation. i can't imagine you have much to contribute. >> i don't take everything personally, but i'm quite sad to be cut out of this one. >> i'll see you in a few minutes, michael. velshi starts now. hey, good morning. it's sunday, september 15th. 51 days until election day.

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