on haitian migrants as conspiracy theories and intense rhetoric loom large on the campaign trail. plus, the fed poised to make the first interest rate cut since 2020. how it could impact everything from credit cards to car loans to mortgages. also ahead, u.s. intel officials now say israel was behind that series of pager explosions targeting hezbollah. how the audacious attack was pulled off. and later, sean "diddy" combs behind bars this morning, what's next for the disgraced music mogul as he sits in a new york city jail awaiting trial. good morning. it is just about 10:00 eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific. on the campaign trail, intense rhetoric is in the spotlight. the candidates navigating the effects of the apparent second

assassination attempt against donald trump and the false far right conspiracy theory pushed by trump that's ratcheting tensions in an ohio city. vice president harris now slamming trump for those attacks on haitian migrants. >> it is a crying shame. i mean, my heart breaks for this community. you cannot be entrusted withstanding behind the seal of the president of the united states of america, engaging in that hateful rhetoric. this is exhausting and it is harmful. and it is hateful. and grounded in some age old stuff that we should not have the tolerance for. so let's turn the page and chart a new way forward and say, you can't have that microphone again. >> let's bring in nbc's dasha burns and mike memoli who are following the candidates as well

as msnbc's political analyst susan del percio and basil smikle. dasha, trump is in long island today. this event under heavy security. and he commented about the apparent assassination attempt at yesterday's event. >> yes, let's start with the first part there, long island. he's campaigning in new york state, which, of course, is not really a battleground, it has got some folks scratching their heads. but i'll tell you that that part of new york, long island, there has been sort of a ramp up of trump support there and there are some congressional races, down ballot races that could potentially help determine control of the house. so that's one of the reasons he's heading there, to boost those down ballot candidates. and to highlight some of the challenges going on in his home state. but, yes, he did talk about that second apparent assassination attempt yesterday in michigan, which is a battleground. he made a little bit of light of the experience, take a listen. >> i'm telling you right now,

i'm putting a 200% tariff on which means they're unsellable. unsellable in the united states. and then you wonder why i get shot at, right? you know, only consequential presidents get shot at. >> he also did recount those moments of hearing the gunshots and thanked the secret service. he also thanked president biden and vice president harris for calling him in the aftermath of that incident saying they were very nice phone calls. >> mike, yesterday vice president harris was at a national association of black journalists panel, the same group trump was addressing when he questioned the vice president's race a few weeks ago. as we heard the top, trump's racialized rhetoric was focused on that stage. she shared details about her call with trump? >> this is all part of what we're hearing across the board from top democratic officials about the need to lower the political temperature. you heard that from president biden, condemning this latest

attempted assassination calling for more resources to protect president trump. you heard this yesterday on the campaign trail as well from tim walz, the running mate of kamala harris, saying we know we saw our differences at the ballot box, not through political violence. but the vice president, the person on the ballot against donald trump, making that gesture to call her rival to express her concern and relief that he's safe, harris talked a little bit more about that conversation yesterday. listen here. >> i checked on to see if he was okay. and i told him what i have said publicly, there is no place for political violence in our country. >> as we see the conversation about migration continuing to be a focus, we will hear from vice president harris in just a little over two hours from now as she speaks to the congressional hispanic caucus here in washington. her campaign this morning also out with a new tv ad on one of the most powerful issues

motivating democratic voters in particular this year, that is abortion, talking about the story of a kentucky woman who was raped and had to have an abortion at the age of 12 because of an incest situation. this is an ad that is narrated by billie eilish, who just endorsed kamala harris' campaign. >> mike memoli, dasha burns, thank you for the reporting. trump coming to long island today, susan. we're less than 50 days to the election, new york is solidly blue. what do you make of the fact he's coming here and could it potentially backfire when it comes to those close house races? >> well, actually, i think where he is on long island today will be helpful to the congressional candidates out there. but i think also sometimes when you run campaigns, you put your candidate in safe places. and you let them feel the love from the audience. which he will feel there. so, it is not a big -- it is not a big leap for him to do that. he doesn't have to travel much. maybe he's tired and worn down from everything. you want to, you know, hop over to long island, nice and

convenient for him. but this is not something someone who is seeking to win a race does at this stage. >> i would expect he would be in battleground states. he was in michigan last night. basil, we discussed how the vice president has been trying to thread this needle. as she navigates the conversation around race and how trump has weaponized it in this election. just curious, as you heard what we listened to at the top there, how do you think she handled the question, especially with the conspiracy theories about haitian migrants. >> even though new york has only voted for a republican six times since the great depression, two years ago, when lee zeldin, a member of congress from long i'll was running for governor, he talked a lot about violence connected to immigrants and migrants. he talked a lot about crime. and that really did turn out a lot of votes on long island. to susan's point, it is interesting that he's there.

and i guess that it makes him feel more comfortable, but there is a policy, it is rooted in policy that has come out from a lot of the elected officials that live there that have talked about this issue of immigration and migrants and connected it to crime. and when we look at what donald trump has said from his mouth and jd vance has confirmed in terms of doubling down on his belief about what haitian migrants are doing, all that does in my view is turn out votes on the other side. you're angering a community that may have been mobilized against you before, but now have a lot more reason to come out and vote against you. and this is not just the haitian community, it is the caribbean community, which i'm a part of, it is just -- it is doubling down on this hate and you have to ask yourself why, i said this before in the show, why are they so fascinated with pets. why do they keep talking about this? clearly they think it is going to work. >> and trump is saying he's

going to visit springfield, ohio, the city at the center of this latest conspiracy theory. would a visit by trump benefit anyone? >> it would be devastating to the town. resources-wise, i think we heard the mayor say that the town could not absorb him coming in, as far as security goes, because they have so many other issues. right now, because of the horrible language being used by jd vance and donald trump, so, i think he does it like he does a publicity stunt, and it should come at no surprise, he cares not one iota about the people there and what his visit will do and enflame the situation. i heard one bit of good news about the community, though. and that was that a lot of people of every background were visiting haitian businesses to show their support. and that's what the community is about there. they don't need the hatred coming in from donald trump. >> we heard from the mayor there

is a we don't need hate, we need help and more resources to help -- >> that's a new conversation. >> i have to show this, atlanta journal constitution poll out of georgia, basil, that is a very key state in this election, it shows it is a tossup now. this is the part that stood out to me, undecided voters number on the bottom, black voters, 12% say they're undecided in georgia. does that surprise you? >> you know, when i think about that and layer on top of that the naacp poll that talked about how there are a number of african american voters, men over the age of 50 who are may undecided or leaning toward trump and they talked about this, there is still a lot of work to be done to talk to a lot of african american voters about specifically what democrats are going to do for them in a democratic administration. and it is an age old issue. you've got to go and talk to the voters where they are.

but at the same time, when you, as a black male, when i see someone like donald trump who is remarkably unqualified, standing next to kamala harris who is extraordinarily qualified to be in that position and they're given equal weight and equal time, that says a lot to me, someone who has to work twice as hard to be in the same room. and the message that you send to a lot of black voters is no matter what you have done, it is still not going to be equal -- of equal -- won't carry the same weight. and that's something that tamps down and depresses enthusiasm to go out and vote, because does your vote actually matter? that i think is what is reflected there. >> more like enthusiasm or is it more that they're really undecided? >> a little of both. and i think that's where the challenge is for democrats to be able to go into those communities and say this is what is on the agenda for you. specific conversation that needs to take place. >> there are so many different

constituencies and voting groups that are important in this election. we talk about people of color, we talk about suburban women and on that last point, and michigan last night, trump's former white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders, the current governor of arkansas, was along his side and she appeared to take a swipe at the vice president for not having kids. let's listen to this. >> not only do my kids serve as a permanent reminder of what is important, they also keep me humble. so my kids keep me humble. unfortunately, kamala harris doesn't have anything keeping her humble. >> of course, she doesn't have biological kids, but she does have stepchildren and kerstin emhoff, the ex-wife of doug emhoff, took to vice president harris' defense posting this, kamala harris has spent her entire career working for the people, all families. that keeps you pretty humble. why is the gop continuing to go down this road?

doesn't it risk alienating a whole lot of women voters? >> i think it does. i think it is a huge mistake that they're doing this. i don't -- sarah huckabee sanders should know better given her political background. but i also think they do it to create more of she's not like us kind of attitude and we have talked about this a lot. to really say, she doesn't come off the same way we do, she doesn't have the same values, they're trying to throw out there, where as harris is throwing -- putting out a whole campaign based on her values. so i think it is going to definitely have backlash against the campaign, but, again, i just wonder if they're looking for that, like, little group of voters that -- or people who have never really voted before, to come out and vote under such a bad message. >> interesting. susan del percio, basil smikle, thank you. up next, the fed expected to make its first rate cut since

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work back with some breaking economic news this morning. the federal reserve expected to announce a big interest rate cut this afternoon. the first since 2020. and after repeatedly increasing rates since the onset of the covid pandemic. the big question is, how much of a cut? and nbc news senior business correspondent christine romens joins us from the big board. what are we expecting this afternoon? >> 25 basis points or maybe half a point. a lot of controversy and discussion about what will happen. let's talk about how we got here. remember when inflation was up there at 9%. you had interest rates near zero. so now the fed after inflation has been coming down has this moment when it can start to lower those interest rates. and what is super interesting about this too, you look at the unemployment rate, still quite low. it ticked up a little bit here. there is some concern that the labor market is softening, interest rates have been too high for too long and the fed has got to start moving.

>> are rates falling ahead of the decision and with that in mind, how can people prepare? >> rates have been falling. when you look at mortgage rates, mortgage rates have been falling here. down two points from where they were just last year. but look at where we were in 2020 with rates. home lone, 3.5%. car loans. 5.2%, credit card at 15%. after all those interest rate increases, look how high all of these got. the hope is that mortgage rates will start to come down and generally slowly but surely these other rates will start to come down and give some relief to american families. a lot depends on what the fed chief has to say after they announced what they're doing. this is probably the first of what could be a series of rate cuts. >> okay. that sounds like good news. thank you, christine romans. we any you'll listen closely and keep us posted and make sense of what the decision is. i want to bring in justin woffers from the university of michigan. professor, nice to see you.

practically speaking, how will this rate cut translate to people's finances in the immediate and then the long-term? >> yes, so, you know, the good news is we had high interest rates for quite a while, trying to whack that inflation out of the system. the inflation is gone. and what that means is the high rates can go away. today there is a debate 25 basis points or 50 basis points, i think that's not the big deal. the big deal is that by spring, interest rates should be all the way back down to normal. down from about 5.5% to about 3%. so from a practical level, if you look at your mortgage rates and try to decide whether it is a good time to buy, you think about buying a car, if you just are worried about how much money you've got left at the end of the week after you paid off your mortgage, all those things are about to get a whole lot easier. doesn't depend so much on what happens today at 2:00, but really just the run of what is going to happen over the next few months. >> i think to the average person the economy has been sending mixed signals, the unemployment rate remains low, but it has been ticking up.

spending has been steady. but not in all sectors. could this cut impact any of that? >> i think it is going to help. so, the number one problem facing the u.s. economy for the last couple of years has been high inflation. how do you get rid of high inflation, high interest rates, whack it. it slows down the economy, but gets rid of that inflation and we succeeded at doing that. so, the economy is sending mixed signals, but special kind of mixed. they're boring. basically our economic lives are being far too tumultuous since the pandemic. we shut down the economy, we tried to reopen it, there was supply chain snarls, too many things were happening and now things are getting back to gloriously splendidly normal. >> normal. splendid. i like that. i'm going to channel that. this is splendid to have just normal existence. the perspective i want to point out here and try to understand more how quickly we can see that normalcy, you know, prepandemic,

we saw rates around 1.75%. now we're at 5.5%. as far as fed rates. do you expect, like, we heard from christine that today's decision will be the first of several cuts and how quickly will we get back to prepandemic rates anytime soon? >> right. so, let's talk about where we are and where normal is. on the job market, we're all the way back to normal, a little bit better. on inflation, we're all the way back to normal. it might take a little while before we all start to realize that and acknowledge it. interest rates, today, we're taking the first step back to normal. look, there is a big debate among economists about what is normal. interest rates 2% or 3%. whatever it is, it is a lot lower than where we're at right now. the graph you're showing now, look for that to start to step down, not only this afternoon, but for just about every segment for the next few months. i reckon by the spring we'll be down to interest rates of about 3% and after that, that's when we'll start to face the harder debates about how much lower they can go and still be consistent with an economy that

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this morning, music mogul sean "diddy" combs remains in a new york city jail. a judge ordering him to stay behind bars before he goes on trial for federal sex trafficking charges that were unsealed just yesterday. he accused of abusing and trafficking women in a criminal enterprise that prosecutors say spanned decades. in just a few hours, combs will be back in court, appealing the judge's decision to deny him

bail. and nbc news entertainment correspondent chloe melas joins us now. you've been digging in this story for months, really. bring us the latest. >> i was in the courtroom a few feet away from sean combs as the judge denied him bail and his team was offering up $50 million in order for him to be released. but the judge didn't go for it. we do have to warn you that some of the details in this report are disturbing. federal prosecutors say hip-hop mogul sean "diddy" combs used his power and business empire to carry out a long and shocking list of crimes for years. from sex trafficking and forced labor, to kidnapping, bribery and obstruction of justice. >> between at least 2008 and the present, combs abused, threatened, and coerced victims to fulfill his sexual desires, protect his reputation, and conceal his conduct. >> reporter: combs greeting fans in new york a day before his arrest. and six months after federal

authorities raided his homes in l.a. and miami. in a 14-page indictment, prosecutors say agents found multiple firearms during those raids, including three defaced ar-15 rifles. they uncovered videos of elaborately produced sex performances with multiple victims that combs allegedly referred to as freakoffs. >> the freakoffs sometimes lasted days at a time, involved multiple commercial sex workers, and often involved a variety of narcotics, which combs distributed to the victims to keep them obedient and compliant. >> reporter: while searching combs' residences in march, according to the indictment, they seized narcotics and baby . his attorney said he doesn't believe combs will take a plea deal. >> i don't see it happening. he's innocent. and he is going to go to trial. and i believe he's going to win. >> reporter: the criminal charges follow a string of civil lawsuits, including a settlement with combs' long time girlfriend

singer cassie. she can be seen in this 2016 surveillance video, being thrown to the ground and physically attacked by combs. prosecutors say cassie was attempting to escape, from one of combs freakoffs. combs later apologizing for his actions caught on video. his attorney arguing diddy's toxic relationship with cassie was consensual. >> this was a ten-year relationship, no coercion, no crime. >> reporter: with three of his sons and other family members in court to support him, the 54-year-old appeared solemn, as prosecutors argued against bail, saying he has a history of witness tampering, threats and physical violence. none of his victims are named in that criminal indictment, however, as you mentioned, in your piece, multiple people have filed civil suits. are we hearing anything from those accusers and reaction? >> in the wake of his arrest and then now him being kept behind bars, after this indictment was unsealed, we have heard from

several of them through their attorneys saying they feel a sense of relief, we're hearing them say that this is one step closer to justice, and that they're not surprised. we don't know if any of those civil accusers are actually part of this criminal indictment, if we'll see any of them take the stand at a potential trial. and so this is just something that we're monitoring and something that is interesting, though, is that big people in the music industry, we haven't really seen anybody come out and say anything on social media yet. >> fascinating, chloe melas, such a disturbing story. up next on "ana cabrera reports," deja vu on capitol hill as we careen toward another potential government shutdown. will a house vote today avert disaster? we'll talk to senator bernie sanders about efforts to avoid that shutdown before the election. plus, his effort addressing drug prices. addressing drug prices.

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welcome back. today, the house is voting on a bill to fund the government for another six months. but this is not a done deal. speaker johnson pulled this same bill from the floor just last week after some conservatives defected. he's also linked this bill to legislation that would require proof of citizenship to register to vote. a move that likely makes the bill dead on arrival if it ever makes it to the senate, add in the fact that president biden has hinted at a veto and what you have is a big mess with less than two weeks until the government shuts down. joining us now, from capitol

hill, nbc's julie tsirkin. julie, does speaker johnson have the votes to get this bill through the house? >> reporter: that remains to be seen when the house takes it up later today. even members of johnson's leadership team don't expect that he will have the votes to get this across the finish line to even get this bill and that election bill to the senate as you mentioned here, but johnson, of course, trying this again. remember a couple of days ago, he was going to put this on the floor. he ended up pulling it. he spent the whole weekend on the phone working the phones trying to talk to his members to convince them to at least move this ahead so that then if it doesn't pass, they can put this in the democrats' court. we have been talking all year how johnson is operating with a very, very, very thin majority here, so he's almost certainly going to need democrats in order for any bill to keep the government open to pass. he has several members who will not vote for any bill for any continuing resolution to fund the government, no matter what sweetener he puts on it. listen to the stark message we heard from the top republican in the senate, just yesterday, and

his warning to johnson. >> my only observation about this whole discussion is that the one thing you cannot have is a government shutdown. it would be politically beyond stupid for us to do that right before the election because certainly we would get the blame. >> reporter: and, look, ana, johnson knows this, republicans know this, they have been through this before. i don't think johnson who you see on the screen there holding a press conference wants a shutdown but he's going through with this bill. so will he get it through? >> we'll keep an eye on that monitor. thank you. before the shutdown deadline, more fireworks expected on capitol hill next week. senators are set to grill the ceo behind the popular weight loss drugs ozempic and wegovy. the ceo of novo nordisk has faced months of criticism from lawmakers over the high cost of

the drugs. according to senator bernie sanders, who chairs the help committee, a month's supply of ozempic, it costs a thousand dollars in the u.s. compared to $59 in germany. and senator sanders is joining us now. senator, great to have you here with us. we have talked about this issue before, there is a huge demand for these drugs, but it will be really hard to pay for them, right? when you question the novo nordisk ceo, what answers will you be after? >> what we basically want to know why he is charging the american people 10 or 15 times more for the same exact product that he's charging people in europe, canada, and elsewhere. and i think basically he may say it, he can do it in the united states because he can get away with it. other countries have strong laws and they negotiate prices. in america historically, until very recently. drug companies could charge us any price they want. and in the case of ozempic and

wegovy, we're dealing with the need to deal with epidemics, and diabetes and obesity. costing us lives, costing us a lot of suffering, and huge amounts of money, treating these illnesses. so you have a good drug, they have got to make this drug affordable for the american people, so we can begin to deal in an effective way with diabetes and obesity. >> novo nordisk argues the net price of ozempic after discount and rebates has declined 40% since this drug was approved in 2017. what do you make of that argument, that the prices have come down and they could fall even more? >> first of all, what they're talking about is in some cases after rebates from pbms charging $600. number two, if you are uninsured or underinsured, and you go to your pharmacy, you're going to pay the list price, which is close to a thousand dollars. number three, if you are on insurance, you get this for a

reasonable price, the reason your insurance prices are going to be very, very high. people can pay a reasonable price for the drug, but they're paying it at the other end in terms of high insurance rates. also, i would add, these guys want to see medicaid cover the product, want to see medicare cover the product. the estimate is that we would literally bankrupt medicare. bankrupt medicare. raise premiums, to an unaffordable rate if we in the united states had to pay the prices that novo nordisk wants. >> affordability, accessibility, to healthcare, this has been a huge focus of your work, so i have to ask you about the comments we heard from donald trump at the debate, saying he saved obamacare. here's what he said. >> so, just a yes or no, you still do not have a plan? >> i have concepts of a plan. i'm not president right now. but if we come up with something, i would only change

it if we come up with something that is better and less expensive. and there are concepts and options we have to do that and you'll be hearing about it in the not too distant future. >> so those comments in addition to saying he saved obamacare, what is your reaction to what he is saying? >> it's really quite amazing, ana. he has been in three political campaigns, he has been president for four years, we are in the midst of a very serious healthcare crisis, we spent twice as much per capita on healthcare as any other nation, 85 million americans uninsured -- underinsured, life expectancy is lower than many other countries. after all that time, he's working on a concept for a plan. and obviously he did not save the affordable care act, he worked his tail off as president to make sure that it would be defeated. we saved it by one vote, john mccain's vote. >> i want to switch gears to the recent apparent assassination

attempt. trump to social media to blame vice president harris' rhetoric about him. saying because of this come communist left rhetoric, the bullets will keep flying and it will only get worse. >> i hope it goes without saying that everybody in america, no matter what your political point of view is, understands that violence of any shape or form is unacceptable in america. we have our disagreements, we don't express them lively. end of discussion. but, you know, it is funny, coming from trump, whose rhetoric has been the most ugly, i think of any president or presidential candidate, i think what you just read me, he called kamala harris a communist. i mean, you know, that is so totally absurd. so, here is this guy coming up with outrageous rhetoric, and then he blames other people for the violence. i would suggest to donald trump

tone it down. let's have a debate on issues, let's have honest disagreements, but don't start calling people terrible names or suggesting that people are communists, when, of course, they are not. >> two apparent assassination attempts alrea in this election cycle. it is just unheard of, right? or almost unheard of. right now congress is considering a boost of funding for the secret service. would you support that? >> yes, i would. i think, look, again, it goes without saying, we want all of our candidates to be able to go out and campaign and be perfectly safe and, of course, people who come to rallies be safe as well. >> i want to ask about government funding, we're less than two weeks away from a potential shutdown as we just reported. yesterday, your republican colleague mitch mcconnell said it would be beyond stupid to shut down the government, in an election year, specifically. i know you and senator mcconnell don't always agree to say the least. do you agree on this? >> yeah. i think he was quite right.

if the republicans shut down the government, you know, a month before an election, it would be, i think, as mcconnell indicated political malfunction. the truth of the matter is that what is going on in the house in general right now on the republican leadership is really quite crazy. i think people have called it the least effective congress in modern american history. they do very little except make polil attacks. country faces serious problems, the american people at the very least do not want to see their government shut down. and i hope that speaker johnson understands that. >> senator bernie sanders, thank you so much for your time and we will be watching that hearing with novo nordisk's ceo next week, appreciate you getting out front on that issue. >> thank you very much. up next on "ana cabrera reports," new reports of explosions in lebanon today. a day after a coordinated attack there, what we're learning this morning. a coordinated attack there, what we're learning this morning. can take 1 prilosec.

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we're back with breaking news. and new reports of wireless devices, exploding in the user's hands in lebanon today. this after that deadly coordinated attack yesterday. at least 12 people are dead and 3,000 injured following yesterday's coordinated detonation of hundreds of pagers belonging to members of the militant group hezbollah. hezbollah blaming israel for the attack and this morning, two u.s. officials confirmed to nbc news that israel was behind it. let's get right to nbc's raf sanchez joining us from tel aviv. and also with us, retired cia officer and msnbc security and intelligence analyst mark polymeropoulos. give us the latest on the new reports of more explosions. >> reporter: in just the last couple of minutes, lebanese state media is reporting what appears to be a second wave of explosions, both in beirut, the

capital of lebanon, but also in other areas of the country, including the south, near the israeli border. lebanese state media is saying that for a second day in a row, it is handheld communication devices that are exploding in people's hands, in their pockets, attached to their belts. it is not totally clear at this point whether this is more pagers that are exploding today or whether this is potentially radios, walkie-talkies, we don't have firm detail. but, of course, this is just a startling new development, little over 24 hours after those thousands of pagers exploded all across lebanon yesterday. hezbollah calling it a massive israeli covert attack. and while the israeli government is refusing to say one way or another whether it was involved, two american officials tell nbc news that israel was responsible.

the united states says it did not get any advanced warning of this attack. and it is still trying to gather information, but you can see on the left of your screen, that is one of many thousands of the explosions across lebanon yesterday. hezbollah members going about their day in the supermarket, walking down the street, on the backs of motorcycles, when all of a sudden these pagers exploded. now, the pagers in question appear to bear the logo of apollo gold, that is a taiwanese technology company. that company overnight is saying that the pagers in lebanon were, in fact, produced by a company in hungary that had paid a license fee to use its logo. now, nbc news has contacted that hungarian company, the woman identifying herself as the ceo says that company does not actually make pagers, that they're merely an intermediary.

so what appears to be the case here is that at some point israeli operatives got into the supply chain of these pagers, and planted small explosives before allowing them to be delivered into the hands of hezbollah operatives in lebanon. and viewers may be wondering, ana, why is it that hezbollah is using pagers, the technology from the 1980s, from the 1990s and the answer is hezbollah thought that it was more secure from israeli electronic surveillance, they believed it was safer than using smartphones and it turns out to have been a deadly mistake with that massive chain of explosions ripping across lebanon yesterday. and now what appears to be a second wave today. >> we'll let you get with your reporting and bring us any new details as you learn them. in the meantime, mark, two days in a row now what do you make of it? >> well, it looks like they're still going, which is pretty extraordinary in the sense of that yesterday hezbollah and the

operatives across the country, you know, obviously were living in fear of these communication devices, the fact that it is still occurring is pretty remarkable. but this is really a stunning covert action operation. israel is giving us a master class on this. in my experience with kinetic operations like this, i've never seen anything on this type of scale. israelis have done this before. they killed a bombmaker in 1996 with an exploding cell phone. and you've seen them conduct kinetic operatios in places like lebanon and iran. this scale is massive. the supply side of this is really what is quite extraordinary, they were able to interdict and place explosives in thousands of devices. this is something that in my own world will be seen as one of most remarkable intelligence operations in terms of kinetic

operations we have seen in the last decade. >> according to "the new york times," in terms of how this all worked, the explosions yesterday, and officials were briefed on the operations saying israel had hid these explosive materials in the pagers, before they reached lebanon, the explosive material was placed next to the battery of each pager with a remote switch and then at 3:30 p.m., they received a message appearing to come from hezbollah leadership which activated the explosives. from this description, does this sound like a sophisticated attack? >> so, the technology is certainly there to do this. if you can get a hold of the device. you place a small amount of explosives in the device and then they detonated via a page. that's not something that to me was all that sophisticated. what is really remarkable is how they get the actual -- the thousand pagers. that they're able to do this. that they're able to get into the procurement network and so it is the scale of this, and the

ability and, look, lebanon is a denied area. this is tough operating environment and the fact that they were able to do this, and to, you know, in essence kind of break this kind of security aura that hezbollah had, hezbollah is real reeling right now. everybody's head is on a swivel. they're living in fear. and that's the goal of this, to restore that deterrence capability which they lost after october 7th. >> 12 people at least are dead from yesterday's explosions. we're still obviously awaiting news on today's latest round of explosions. at least 3,000 people are injured, 200 in critical condition. what kind of impact does it have on hezbollah's ability to operate and to potentially attack israel? >> this is a tremendous question. because right now, hezbollah is paralyzed. they have hundreds if not a thousand of their operatives who are maimed, some are dead, but they're taken off the

battlefield. you also have what is going to be an absolute counterintelligence witch-hunt, they paralyze themselves in terms of trying to find out how this security broke down. and the final piece is they have a communications infrastructure that has been compromised by israel and if the reports are true, that more communication devices are exploding today, it almost renders them inoperable on the battlefield. this is a strong message the israelis are sending them, in essence, escalated to de-escalate, telling hezbollah leadership, you do not want a wider war. we know where you sleep, we know everything about you, and this is going to resonate within the rank and file. they'll be angry about this. but they're paralyzed right now. >> mark polymeropoulos, thank you, so good to have your insights and expertise. up next, for us, a major milestone for princess kate after completing her cancer treatment. r princess kate after completing her cancer treatment. (♪♪) if you have postmenopausal osteoporosis and are at high risk for fracture, you can do more than just slow bone loss.

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welcome back. this morning, the princess of wales made her highly anticipated return to royal duties. days after princess kate announced she had finished with chemo treatments she now officially back to work. nbc's kelly cobiella has the details. kelly? >> reporter: princess kate is one of the most popular if not the most popular member of the british royal family. and the public has been eager to see her back out in public, shaking hands again. while she still focused primarily on her recovery, this

private meeting marks a big step toward her comeback. princess kate returning to royal duties, nine months after her cancer diagnosis. the future queen meeting with her royal foundation at windsor castle on tuesday, as she slowly gets back to work. >> my path to healing and full recovery is long. and i must continue to take each day as it comes. i am, however, looking forward to being back at work, and undertaking a few more public engagements in the coming months when i can. >> reporter: just last week, the princess of wales announced in an emotional message that she had completed her chemotherapy treatment. >> doing what i can to stay cancer free is now my focus. >> reporter: the deeply personal video also providing a never before seen glimpse into her private life, with prince william and their three children. kate speaking candidly about just how tough this time has been. >> the cancer journey is complex. scary, and unpredictable for everyone. especially those closest to you.

>> reporter: the 42-year-old royal revealed her diagnosis in march, just weeks after her father-in-law king charles announced his own cancer battle. she was not seen in public until june to celebrate the king's birthday. and appeared at wimbledon in july, cheered on by an adoring crowd. this week, a more private engagement, according to the court circular, the official record of the royal family, she took part in a meeting for her early years campaign, which focuses on the importance of early childhood, a cause that has become a large part of her life's work. >> we know that her early years work is the thing she treasures most professionally. i think it is very significant and appropriate that her first foray back into working life in a real sense has been to do this meeting. >> reporter: her fans are very happy to see she's back at work. but everyone is asking when will she be out making public appearances again. kensington palace hasn't

confirmed any dates yet, but there are two dates coming up where she's likely to attend if she is feeling up to it. one is the remembrance day service in november. that's for members of the military and veterans, it is a big event here in the uk. and the second is her carol service in december. it is something that she has spearheaded and is very proud of and would like to attend, again, if she's up to it. >> kelly cobiella, thank you. so lovely to see her on the mend. that does it for us today. we'll see you back here tomorrow. same time, same place. you can catch our show online, around the clock, on youtube, and other platforms. thanks for being here. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. good morning. 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. we begin this hour with breaking news out of lebanon. just