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in the trump administration, people like chris krebs lost their job for telling the truth. i think election integrity will be safe but i am concerned about the misinformation issue. >> senator warner on a busy day, thank you for being with us. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." chris jansing reports starts right now. good day i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. is it a new form of wireless warfare? hezbollah blames israel for two days of deadly explosions targeting them, first from pagers and today reportedly from walkie-talkies what it says about where the conflict goes from here and what it says about the hostages in gaza. and new details about how a
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member from jd vance's campaign did fact check the statement about ohio before it sparked the controversy. and are sean combs days as a free man over? his last ditch effort to get out of prison while he waits trial on charges that could put him behind bars the rest of his life. we begin with the chaos and confusion inside lebanon right now where for a second straight day more devices are exploing across the country including walkie-talkies more than nine people are dead and 300 injured from the latest blast. yesterday electronic devices used by the members of hezbollah exploded across lebanon killing at least 12 people and injuring
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up to 2,800. two u.s. officials confirm to nbc news that israel was behind the attack. "the new york times" is sharing new details on yesterday's highly sophisticated attack reporting that israel planted, quote, small amounts of explosives in beepers that hezbollah ordered from a company based in taiwan. according to american and other officials briefed on the operation. i want to bring in national security and global affairs reporter dan de-lewis. international correspondent raf sanchez is in tel-aviv for us and with us is political contributor ben rhodes, good to have you all here. what more do we know about the latest blasts in lebanon? >> reporter: chris, for a second day in a row we are seeing explosions tearing through lebanon, these are blasts isolated not just to beirut, the capital city but seeing it in the south near the border with israel, seeing it in the east in
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a hezbollah strong hold. yesterday it was pagers that were exploding in the hands, in the pockets, on the belts of hezbollah members. according to lebanese state media, today it is walkie-talkies that are blowing up. so this appears to be a second phase of what two u.s. officials tell nbc news was a vast covert israeli operation yesterday, targeting hezbollah members and targeting also its communication networks. now, as you said, at this point, state media in lebanon is saying nine people were killed today, that's on top of the 12 people killed yesterday. at least 300 people injured today on top of the 2,700 who were injured yesterday. this is a vast public health crisis for lebanon. it is a deep, deep security crisis for hezbollah. which has found that its arch
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enemy, israel has penetrated its absolute most sensitive communications. but it is clear there are at least some civilians who have been caught up in this attack. at least two children were killed in the pager blasts that we saw yesterday. while "the new york times" is reporting that israeli agents at some point smuggled small amounts of explosives into each of these devices what remains unclear is at what point in the supply chain the israelis were able to do that. most of the beepers bear the logo of apollo gold, that is a taiwanese company but overnight the company saying they didn't make the models used in lebanon, those were produced by a company in hungary, which paid a license fee to use that logo. we called that company earlier today, we reached a whom identified herself as the ceo. she sounded very shaken to find
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herself at the center of an international news story and she was saying her company doesn't actually make the pagers they are just an intermediary. so it's unclear exactly how the israelis got into these devices and that's one of the many, many questions outstanding right now. >> there's no doubt about that, dan, at what point in the supply chain did they get explosives into these devices. were they the supply chain? that's just the beginning of all those questions. what are we hearing from the u.s., dan? >> feels a little powerless at this point. this was a surprise. this was not something the biden administration wanted to see. they're desperately trying to diffuse tensions, secure a cease-fire that, a deal to get the hostages released and somehow avoid what everyone is fearing, a full-blown regional all-out war or direct conflict
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between iran and israel. and as raf was saying, this is a humiliating setback for hezbollah. this is a total collapse of their security. i think there's another audience here for israel and that is their own domestic population. i think the october 7th attack by hamas last year was its own shock to their system. they have great confidence in the intelligence and the military and that was a failure and that attack took them by surprise. so you've seen extraordinary assassinations of hezbollah leaders in tehran, and now this, this is iran's important malice sha here. they see it as the bull work of their defense. their communications network completely penetrated. i think the white house is trying to again appeal to all parties to exercise restraint
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but it doesn't look like israel has been listening to that message. >> dan, thank you for that. ben, it's good to see you. you've been involved in high level conversations around situations that are extraordinarily sensitive, probably more times than you can count during the obama administration what are the likely conversations that president biden is having right now with his national security team and what are the key u.s. interests? >> well, you know, the u.s. interests are trying to avoid a full-blown escalatory regional war number one that puts at riske months of u.s. mediation trying to get a cease-fire deal, the hostages released, an end to the war in gaza. and members in syria and iraq are at risk. global energy prices could spike if we see the conflict spreading
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as we've seen in the red sea already. so the u.s. interest has been deescalation. as recently as a few days ago, the u.s. was sending diplomats to lebanon to urge de-escalation. sb and so israel has decided it's going to try to deal these blows to hezbollah. and at the u.s. security level the u.s. trying to understand what's going on. how far is this going? is this a precursor to a broader israeli operation in lebanon. is this israelis taking shots at a bunch of hezbollah guys or is it israel trying to break the communication network, rattle hezbollah, isolate them from one another so they can launch a military operation into lebanon because they want to kind of move their population that's been displaced by hezbollah rockets. so i think right now in the
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situation room they're trying to understand what's going on. it's clear that israel did not give any kind of advance notice of this operation to the united states. >> obviously this is not the first time that israel has ignored the biden administration but let me ask you about what's going on in cairo right now. that is where secretary blinken is and he went to have conversations about the possibility of finally reaching a cease-fire agreement. we just heard from kamala harris yesterday when she was in front of nabj, there has to be a deal on gaza that ends the fighting, frees the hostages. what does all this mean for that goal? >> i have just think it makes it much more difficult. essentially all these things are ultimately connected and i think rightly the biden administration understands that the only pathway to truly de-escalate the tensions in the region is a cease-fire deal in gaza. hezbollah has been firing the rockets into israel since october 7th they see themselves
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as part of the conflict that israel finds themselves in with hamas. so as long as the war is in gaza it's difficult to de-escalate the situation in lebanon. the more you militarize the conflict the more unlikely it is that hamas and the israeli government will make the types of decisions necessary to get to a cease-fire. we've seen in the past, the u.s. getting close to a cease-fire and coming out and saying a cease-fire and then at the last moment prime minister netanyahu or hamas insist on conditions that scuttle the deal. when there's this degree of regional tension i think it's that much more difficult to achieve a cease-fire. at a certain point the question is is this the best way forward to continue this constant negotiation while the israeli government and hamas and everyone else seems to be running a different play.
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>> let's talk about how this got done, this level of sophistication. because hezbollah stopped using smart phones because they were worried about them being infiltrated. they switched to pagers. yesterday they blow up. so now a lot of what they were usingwalkie-talkies. what is the level of coordination and sophistication it takes to pull off something like this two days in a row? >> yeah. there are a couple of things that jump back to me, chris. first of all, there's an incredible level of sophistication because number one they clearly got into the supply chain. so clearly there was something inserted in the devices. they physically were able to manipulate these devices and know where they were going to go. so they had to have sufficiently penetrated not just a supply chain of where they're buying pagers and walkie-talkies but they had to penetrate the communications network. they needed people on the ground who knew how these things were
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going to be distributed. we know that israel has penetrated hezbollah before, they were able to locate officials, disrupt weapons shipments. so it's not a surprise but this is another level of sophistication. the other thing that jumps out to me, oftentimes if you have the ability to penetrate the communication networks you listen to those communications. it's a big decision to say instead of trying to use this capacity to understand what they're doing and understand their intentions and how the network is operating, we are going to kind of blow our own operation literally because we want to send this message and achieve this military aim of setting back hezbollah tactically. and really trying to kind of rattle them internally. so it's that decision to kind of weaponize this capability that is most interesting. i think there's divisions inside the israeli government about how aggressive to be.
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and prime minister netanyahu has decided to press the envelope there. where that leads is the big question. how does hezbollah respond, what further operations does hezbollah have in mind? it does suggest that we're going to be living with escalation risk and degree of conflict in this part of the world for longer than the biden administration would want. >> or kamala harris for sure. ben rhodes thank you so much. we have some other things to talk about so i'll see new a bit. there's another huge story we're watching. less than an hour away from a critical and hotly contested decision from the federal reserve it's likely they'll cut interest rates for the first time since 2020 but how much? brian cheung is at the big board. how did we get here and the major question, what's going to happen? >> luckily for you i have the fancy graphics to illustrate the story here. the federal reserve is the steward of the american economy they have the interest rates to take care of things like inflation. we did see inflation as we know
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from feeling it at the store, peeking at 9% in the years after the pandemic. what did the federal reserve do to take care of that? they wanted to take steam out of the economy by making borrowing costs in the form of interest rates higher. they did that in the aftermath of the pandemic. inflation in blue, interest rates in red from the federal reserve. they ratcheted them up and it did the job of taking inflation down. here's the concern now, it made unemployment tick up a little bit. you can't necessarily see it all that easily because of the spike of unemployment we saw in the pandemic almost up to 15%. we've been seeing the unemployment rate rise from 3.5% a year ago to as of the last measure 4.2%. the fed is saying maybe we need to lower the interest rates to make sure that people don't get put out of their jobs and for that reason we're expecting the fed to do an interest rate cut today. what does it mean for consumers? it means the interest rates paying on your 30 year fixed
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mortgage rates, autoloans, credit cards might go down. the 2020 interest rates for these products, yes, they went up as the federal reserve raised interest rates and the question now, 6.1% that's the average 30 year fixed rate that's more than 3.5% but that could go down depending on the size of the interest rate cut. the question is it a quarter point change or half a percentage point change? chris, it seems like a toss up right now. we'll have to find out in about 45 minutes. >> brian cheung, thank you. in 90 seconds, did the trump campaign know the rumors about migrants eating pets in springfield weren't true before they spread the story? that's coming up right after this. ht after this heart failure. so when i had carpal tunnel syndrome, lower back pain, and shortness of breath, i thought that's what getting older felt like. thank goodness... ...i called my cardiologist. i have attr-cm,
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now to new evidence that the trump campaign knew that are you mores about haitian immigrants eating pets in this springfield, ohio were lies almost from the start but persisted in spreading them anyway. according to "the washington journal" they knew because they were told nine days ago. springfield city mayor brian heck said that is one when one of jd vance's staffers called them asking if the rumors are true about pets being taken and eaten, i told him no, there was no verifiable evidence or reports to show this was true. but vance tweeted it that day. and the woman who actually did
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report her cat missing, not eaten but missing, found the cat hiding in her basement days later and then actually apologized to her haitian neighbors for suggesting they were to blame but both vance and trump kept pushing the lies anyway. they haven't stopped. this was last night. >> you say you have a responsibility to share what your constituents tell you, but don't you have a responsibilities to fact check them first? >> i think the media has a responsibility to fact check the residents of springfield not lie about it. multiple people have come to my office, said on video, they talk about the pet story and that's all the american media wants to talk about. and, of course, the american media goes into springfield, dives in, harasses everybody that dares to complain about the condition of the town, that's not journalism, that's not seeking the truth. that's bullying on a large
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scale. >> the city manager i think i said mayor but the city manager told a member of jd vance's staff it wasn't true. in any case, the result is a city is gripped by chaos where state troopers are patrolling elementary schools for a second straight day and a local college suspended athletic events in response to dozens of bomb threats. ohio's republican governor didn't blame trump for those threats directly but made clear he's not helping. >> if these comments were not being made would those threats stop? >> well, i don't know. i can't predict what would happen. but the statements are wrong. i've said they were wrong. the mayor has said they were wrong. and frankly, they need to stop. >> i want to bring in nbc's ali vitali, traveling with the trump campaign. robbie mook, former campaign for
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hillary clinton and michael steel, former rnc chairman. if they knew this wasn't true do we have an answer to why the campaign ran with it and is still running with it anyway? >> reporter: that's the question, because the call with the city manager is not in dispute. the vance team did talk with the city manager and you see "the washington journal" reporting around that now. i did get a statement from the vance team, a spokesperson, and i'll put that up on the screen for you while i read it. they say that senator vance has received countless messages from residents of springfield on the disastrous effects of kairs' immigration policies they list here a short of affordable housing, stressed public resources and declining public safety. but this is around the unfounded claim of killing pets, dogs and
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cats, in the springfield area by trump in the debate. and now we see the fallout in a town like springfield where you have officials at the state and local level trying to put this genie back in the bottle but the disinformation is out there at this point. i'm struck this could be a conversation around policy, around housing and certainly those are the conversations that many republicans are stressing the trump/vance team should be having as they're trying to have a debate over the controversies in the election cycle. but the idea that the vance team and trump team are doubling down on the idea of rumor means it could be true or not. but the question is should national figures amplify things that they aren't sure are true. clearly we're seeing the republican ticket do what it's done since i started covering trump in 2015, having a moment
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of controversy and doubling down and continuing to say the thing. in all my years covering trump, i never heard him say i was wrong, i apologize, let's double back on this. certainly that doesn't appear it's a new strategy introduced any time soon. you see it from the former president, from his running made and they have it again there in their statement. >> it's true, robby, this campaign never seems to backtrack, even in situations like this. is that because being right or wrong isn't the point? the point is to put donald trump back in the middle of the national conversation? they did the right thing, somebody on his staff fact checked it. >> exactly. if trump all of a sudden started tettering what he said to the truth we'd be in a whole new world. this is the same guy who said you can get rid of covid drinking bleach and said he won the election and there was massive voter fraud, all of which is false.
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this is typical for him. i think you're touching on an important point, though. that is that trump -- i don't think he cares about the susanswer the but he doesn't want to get into the substance. this is all about ego, all about fighting, creating controversy, anding at war against the media and the other forces he tries to conjure up. this is the only way he knows how to operate and this is a fight he likes to have. and the challenge for democrats is it's hard for us to get through with our message when he's doing this. it sort of sucks up all the oxygen. as i know some republicans are saying, there is a substantive issue here on immigration and he just can't bring himself to engage in that substantive way. >> i have a number of what i think are substantive things to talk about. let's start with this, michael. we know there's a psychological cost. we know people who li-in that town say they're scared. no one wants to see little kids
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having to go to school with state troopers outside. there's also a financial cost, if you're talking about the financial cost responding to the bomb threats, i think 33 as of yesterday, or the potentially long-term cost if haitians being targeted decide to leave town. there was a local ceo who said it puzzles him, his family has owned a business in springfield for 100 years. it puzzles him why jd vance doesn't understand the value of a stable workforce. so why does someone like jd vance think it's a good idea to push an idea that's hurting his own constituents' bottom line and frankly local and state governments' bottom line. someone has to pay for the security and the response. >> yeah. send the bill to the trump campaign, that's what i do. the. and have the students and
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parents and teachers call the campaign and let them know exactly what their words have done, have cost and continue to cost that city. make them pay the consequence for a lie they know to be a lie. exactly what are we talking about here? we're talking about knowable facts that are ignored by a presidential candidate and his running mate. that they persist in lying to people not just in that community but around the counted about something they know is factually wrong. and yet, we still treat this as this is somehow news to be covering the fact that their continuing to perpetuate the lie. where's the consequence here, and i think that, you know -- this is just the tip, you think this is the last cup of b.s. to come out of this campaign? get ready, buckle up, because this is not about caring for jd
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vance, caring for your constituents. oh that is about as foreign to him as anything else that's related to solid, sound public policy. where is the conversation? so this is the point we're at. i don't know what we expect to come next from this. and yet we continue to talk about it in covering it as if somehow these two individuals are going to, between the two of them, grow a conscious and actually say you know what, my bad. my staff called and told me, check this out and told me this was wrong. i misunderstood. yeah, i lied. whatever. but they're not going to do that. i think we're going to keep doing this roller coaster ride with this campaign and it's crazy. >> in lieu of that, robby, to your point, how does the harris campaign message their side of this? have you -- what are your thoughts about how they've done it so far? and do you think that actually
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in the long run we know who donald trump is appealing to, we know who jd vance is appealing to. but do we think in the long run this is actually going to hurt them? >> well, the trump campaign i believe has a ceiling around 46, 47% of the vote. they have to break through that to win this election. they won in 2016 because a third party vote share, that didn't happen in 2020 and they lost. the current trajectory they're on isn't a winning trajectory. i think the harris campaign has done a great job with this, we saw on the debate she weaponized this lack of substance, the obsession with spreading lies he knows aren't true. so i think she's done a good job there. i find it ironic today the president is complaining he doesn't have enough security and meanwhile, he's creating a security crisis in a town. these parents don't have private
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security force in the secret service. it doesn't excuse the threats made against the president and the attempt to assassinate him. all of that is completely unacceptable. part of that you'll hear the harris campaign say this is trump's america, he'll make your communities much less safe through his lies. the bully pulpit will be a weapon used against the people. and this is jd vance's own state. he's doing this against his own constituents. so imagine what he'll do when it's the entire country. >> so michael, i'm going to ask you a question that deserves a one hour answer minimum and you have a minute to answer it. so sorry. there was an article in the haitian times that was so great because it makes the point that the back story of what happened in springfield isn't unique. quote, it's very much a part of a huge familiar trend across america, the arrival of new
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mostly black and brown immigrants in towns and cities that are not equipped to handle the influx. if the trump campaign wasn't so focused on demonizing the people who have come in legally, who have jobs and are contributing to the economy of the community, what is the larger more constructive conversation about how we help these towns and cities deal with understandable, not talking about the racist part of it, understandable growing pains when other people come in. >> but the racism is a part of it. >> of course it is. >> you didn't -- you can't set that aside. it impacts the economics, the policy, it impacts a lot of things. but here is the dirty little secret in many respects. what was going on in this town before this crazy started? every report i've seen said that the immigrant community was welcome. that they were -- they were, you
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know, contributing and growing that community. that town had lost population. it had dropped from some 83,000 people down to 60 or under 60,000 people. so this influx of migrants who were there to work, hardworking, establishing businesses and working in the community, no one was complaining about that. no one was upset about that. and that's the story line across the country until some politician or some racist organizational group of community people decide they want to other these folks because they don't like the fact that things aren't going their way. or the case of donald trump and jd vance, they think they're going to get some political capital gains from it. not in that town, by the way, not even in the state of ohio. but in other pockets of this country where they need to shore up their vote. or they need to affirm their
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credentials with a base that has gone maga and racist. so this is the truth of the matter. there weren't story headlines coming out of springfield before this that said, oh, you know what, america, we have a problem here in this small town. and that is what i think we really lose sight of when these moments occur is that before, folks were accepting these migrants and they were integrating and working and they were productive. until jd vance and donald trump decide to other them. and turn their lives and the lives of that town upside down. >> let me add one more fact, culture fest, which is a celebration of the diversity of this community, a vast swath of this community was excited about had to be canceled because of security concerns. ali vitali, robbie mook and michael steele thank you for an important conversation. coming up, hip-hop mogul
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of the most successful and influential people in the music business who helped bring hip-hop into the main stream and showed how artists could take control of their careers and build a business. but prosecutors say he used that power to lead a different kind of organization. one that perpetrated violent sexual crimes, prostitution, trafficking and blackmail. he denies all charges. but if he doesn't get bail after that 3:30 hearing "the new york times" reports that mr. combs will be sent to the brooklyn jail. julia ainsley joins me now, and legal analyst paul butler. we got a new letter to the judge
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from sean combs' attorney. >> the highlights show they don't think he should go to the metropolitan detention center in brooklyn because of the horrific conditions and try to lay out why his case is different from others accused of sex trafficking. they say he's different from ghislaine maxwell, the accomplice to jeffrey epstein because she evaded detection from the media and the law before her trial and they said that diddy was different he voluntarily returned to new york city from miami knowing he would be arrested. and they gave us a sneak peek and what the defense will be during the trial. it's not a done deal he's going to be convicted of sex trafficking. even though this is an extremely
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serious charge in the indictment they think they may be able to argue that, in fact, he was in toxic but consensual relationships with the victims that the government plans to present when they make this case that what he did engage in was racketeering and sex trafficking. they also don't believe he obstructed justice, another reason they say he shouldn't be detained before. they say it's okay to gather witnesses and make 124 texts and phone calls to one person after the civil suit was filed. he has a really good defense team, i heard them yesterday. but the government has a strong case here too. what the government has on their side is video. right now we're talking about whether or not he'll be detained before the trial but during the conversations we're getting snippets of what might come
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forward during the trial and it's one we'll watch closely. >> the judge denied diddy's bail saying this crime happens behind closed doors. his attorneys argued not just the detention center where he would be held is dangerous, there's been a murder there, suicides in recent years. they say they have his passport, willing to pull up $50 million bond, selling his plane so he's not a flight risk. what does the judge have to take into consideration here. >> the concern is he is a flight risk meaning prosecutors are concerned he night not show up for court date if released. prosecutors also say he's a danger to society, pointing to violent episodes in the indictment, including sexual assault and arson and prosecutors are especially concerned about witness intimidation.
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they say that mr. combs remains a rich and powerful man and the witnesses include sex workers and mr. combs' employees, prosecutors say there's a powerful differential that makes the witnesses susceptible to being intimidated by mr. combs. >> thank you we'll talk about this more in the coming days and weeks. still ahead, a new microsoft report reveals how russia is targeting the harris/walz campaign to interfere in the presidential election. we have the details next.
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divides this is the screen shot of one of those videos pushing a conspiracy about second gentleman doug emhoff. ben rhodes is back with me. chris wray, the fbi director, has said t russia is pushing these lies. what are the widest implications here? >> it's the new normal and every election cycle we see foreign adversaries, russia, iran and china -- >> is there anything we can do ant it? is new normal is you can't run a campaign based on truth. >> that's right. you have to assume that in the dumpster fire of the online space on social media that they're going to be foreign adversaries pushing their own information, misinformation, they're going to be pouring gasoline on the fires of things they see potentially damaging. if it's russia they want to
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damage kamala harris, i don't think there's any surprise or secret that they would prefer a trump victory. so that's what they're going to be doing in the information space. we've seen iran getting involved in terms of cyber operations. so as a campaign you have to be aware of it. i think the only thing you can do, you can't stop it. you can't build a wall around the internet. you have to call attention to it and make sure as many people are aware of what is exact and fiction and where the -- what is fact and fiction and where the information is coming from. so this public information is important. >> ben rhodes, great to see you. thanks for hanging out. coming up new data about fatal overdoses in the u.s. what's happening for the first time in decades? we'll dig into it next. n i see . then i switch back to my regular shampoo. you should use it every wash, otherwise the flakes will come back. he's right, you know. is that tiny troy? the ingredients in head & shoulders
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>> well, because part of this is awareness. we're talking about it more. we know there's a lot of elicit drugs that are laced with fentanyl on the streets. what has happened at the sate level in places like seattle that my hometown was profiled by this npr exclusive, this notion that we know there's more dangerous narcotics on the street. we have to make sure naloxone, the treatment for overdoses is in the hands of drug users. even amongst those using the substances, they know how too look for the signs of overdoses, and administer to a friend who might be using the substance. that's a clear reason we're seeing the results. >> the fact is still about a hundred thousand people die a year from drug overdoses. what are the programs? obviously naloxone is one of the initiatives that has made a difference. what are the programs and initiatives that are proving beyond that to be the most
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effective? >> we have seen for the health services, one example, and really investing, they have a community that's ravaged by some of these. we are targeting from a health equity lens where there is need, marrying it not just with bandage approaches, let's get naloxone to people, and what's the reason we are seeing these behaviors. there's mental health services that are robust. there's frankly clinics where we can help people off ramp from a high, and that's what we've seen in places like san francisco, in seattle, in other cities that have really been riveted by this problem of high overdose deaths. let's allow them to come off, to withdraw safely, and so this is a multimodal approach, but at the end of the day, we have made naloxone over the counter, chris. that's a big deal. it's expensive. that price point is coming down. we're getting tools in the hands of people, and that is frankly serving a clear need and having a real impact.
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>> dr. vin gupta, always great to have you. especially good to have you here in new york. thank you so much for coming on. minutes from now, we expect the fed to hand down the highly anticipated interest rate decision. we have a panel of experts on what it means for you coming up next. stay close, more "chris jansing reports" right after this. fter . ♪♪ vicks vapostick provides soothing non-medicated vicks vapors. easy to apply for the whole family. vicks vapostick. and try new vaposhower max for steamy vicks vapors. still have symptoms from moderate to severe ulcerative colitis or crohn's disease after a tnf blocker like humira or remicade? put them in check with rinvoq. rinvoq works differently and it's a once-daily pill. when symptoms tried to take control, i got rapid relief with rinvoq. check. when flares tried to slow me down, i got lasting steroid-free remission with rinvoq. check.
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breaking news, we are just moments away from a decision with huge implications for the u.s. economy and a presidential election now in its home stretch. for the first time in four years, 1,648 days to be impact, we are expecting the federal reserve to cut interest rates. the size of the cut is being debated. any increase will ripple through the markets and impact anything from mortgages, car loans,
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credit cards, international banks are keeping a close eye on what happens. this has implications for the global economy. one really important question, will it provide a boost to kamala harris's campaign on the issue voters see as most important? the economy. and where donald trump has been favored in poll after poll. we have a great team of analysts and experts standing by. eugene daniels, "politico" white house correspondent, zerlina maxwell, ram insana, and nbc's business data analyst, brian cheung. this is a big moment. we have been waiting for this, four years, brian, after the covid pandemic. give us the latest. >> we're a few seconds away from the federal reserve announcement, the expectation is to cut interest rates, by a quarter of a point or a half point. we're awaiting this
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