credit cards, international banks are keeping a close eye on what happens. this has implications for the global economy. one really important question, will it provide a boost to kamala harris's campaign on the issue voters see as most important? the economy. and where donald trump has been favored in poll after poll. we have a great team of analysts and experts standing by. eugene daniels, "politico" white house correspondent, zerlina maxwell, ram insana, and nbc's business data analyst, brian cheung. this is a big moment. we have been waiting for this, four years, brian, after the covid pandemic. give us the latest. >> we're a few seconds away from the federal reserve announcement, the expectation is to cut interest rates, by a quarter of a point or a half point. we're awaiting this announcement, actually, it's

just coming in right now. the federal reserve has announced a half a point. >> that was not the most expected. most of what i read was a quarter point expected. >> it was a toss up, and really here's the thing, the federal reserve raised interest rates to get inflation down. the more recent readings we have gotten on the economy the last six weeks since the last time they announced decision is pointing to a weakness in the labor department. to cut into unemployment and make more people get out of jobs or increase unemployment further, well, that's the reason why they wanted to dramatically cut interest rates. they decided to do so by half a percentage point. economic activity has continued to expand at a solid pace. job gains have slowed. we'll have to see what fed chair jerome powell says to explain

cutting interest rates by a half point. >> i'm going to ask the control room if we can get a ticker and keep an eye on what's going on with the stock market. it's going wild? there we go. ran insana, the markets like it, what say you? >> exactly. there were some large bets placed at the end of last week, amid expectations the fed could go the half point they just did and cut rates by that much, amid expectations that will cut expectations by 2025. we need to put this through a different prism. the fed is trying to normalize interest rates because inflation has fallen so much from its peak of 9.1% as measured by consumer prices down to the current 2%, and likely to fall further. the fed's got a lot of latitude to lower interest rates further. they are acknowledging this, acknowledging what was recently said about the weakening labor market data we have gotten over the last several months, the downward revisions in the jobs

created in the last year or so. the economy is in good shape but the fed is trying to, as we like to say in our business, stick the soft landing, do what something many federal reserves in the past have failed to do, which is to raise interest rates, kill inflation, slow the economy but not throw it into a recession, and that's what they're hoping to do here. >> let's note it's 2:56 now, but in a single minute, the dow jumped 300 points. that tells you something. ron, i mean, here was the case for a smaller cut, right? there was concern that it would help avoid too much economic acceleration that might keep prices rising, that might cause inflation to remain slightly too high. does that worry you at all? >> not in the least. inflation is likely to keep falling, chris. when we look at things like energy prices, which are falling not just on, you know, hefty supplies being produced here in the united states, but weakening chinese demand. oil prices, which go directly to

consumer pocket books in the way of gasoline have been plunging, except the last couple of days. grocery price inflation has slowed meaningfully. inflation is down substantially, as i mentioned earlier. the likelihood of a reacceleration in inflation, based on the fed, normalizing interest rates, not stimulating the economy but bringing rates down where they should be, in an inflation environment of 2 1/2% versus 9%, this is what the fed should be doing, and again, keeps the economy from weakening too much going into next year. the fed, again, trying to avoid creating an unnecessary recession when they could effectively do this and potentially make that soft landing a reality. >> i want to bring in peter baker, "new york times" chief white house correspondent and msnbc political analyst. peter, where this economy is going will impact joe biden's legacy, but of course the immediate question is about kamala harris's campaign.

does it help consumer sentiment, which in spite of the many gains that ron insana just talked about by the administration, it's remained a negative, and it is also the most important issue for voters. so for kamala harris, the stakes here are high. >> yeah, the stakes are high, and this is clearly the move that she would have wanted to happen today, certainly it's only positive for her. whether it makes a huge difference, that's unknown. history shows that people's feelings about the economy, vis-a-vis elections are baked in months beforehand, you know, typically by june or july, the electorate pretty much made its decision when it comes to how it feels the economy is in terms of making its choice for a presidential election in the fall. but this is an unusual year. it's an unusual moment, and the economy is such a center piece of trump's argument against harris that she now has something to answer. especially if this helps on housing, which has been one of

the biggest frustrations for many americans. >> democrats have been pushing the fed to do this for a while now, and progressives in particular, certainly have wanted an even bigger rate cut. they were arguing for .75%, the people who were talking about it earlier this week, elizabeth warren, john hickenlooper, sheldon whitehouse, they urged the fed to cut it by 75 basis points. but what do you think this means for democrats in november and kamala harris in particular? >> well, it's interesting that ron used a gymnastics metaphor about sticking the soft landing. i'll use a track and field metaphor, i feel like in a lot of ways, this is wind at the back of the harris/walz campaign as they're running down the home stretch, right? we're in the month of september. early voting starts very very soon, and so you have early voting september and october, leading into november the 5th,

and, yes, it's true. i agree with peter that, a lot of what americans feel about the economy is baked in already. but i think that an economy that looks like it has improved tremendously from the crash that donald trump led and when he was in charge, and mishandling the pandemic, that crash and recovery has happened, and now the wind is at the back of the harris/walz campaign as we head into the actual election day. i think that the economy is the number one issue, but if signs are pointing in the right direction, voters are very much going to internalize that, chris. >> so the same argument that we have been having for a while now, but with another huge data point, right, eugene with these interest rates and the question becomes before the voters had heard over and over and over again about the data points, about the ways in which the job market was so much stronger, the way in which inflation was coming down, the investment that

this administration had made in things like infrastructure, the plans that kamala harris had going forward, and yet the polls weren't exactly overwhelmingly in her favor. do we think that people are going to take a look at the interest rate decision by the fed, and say now, you know what, i think this is the final sort of piece of the puzzle that we needed to make me vote for her? >> maybe. i mean, i think peter nodding is correct, and also they may internalize it, there are going to be those people. the issue has not been the macroeconomics or the data, right? for a while the biden administration has been talking about the data has been pointing to low unemployment, low inflation, and voters still do not see the economy as working for them. vice president harris knows this. she knows and her team is very

aware that they have to convince people, they have to change people's feelings around the economy, right? so it's less about whether people wake up or look at the news today and say, oh, wait, this is really good, this feels like a soft landing because most voters aren't thinking that way. it's up to the democrats, vice president harris to convince people that this is a signal, right, and this is part of the a larger signal. they can't talk about it in terms of data points, right? they have to be able to point to lowering prices in x, y and z category so voters can feel that. vice president harris has talked about housing quite a bit. she has to convince people maybe you might be able to think about buying a house, that some of the folks who were staying in their first house might go to their second house, some of those renters can leave lower renting prices, right? the cost of groceries would go down. yesterday, i was on a panel with other reporters with vice president harris, and she talked

about the ways in which she thought things were better from the last four years, and she was very clear, she said, the prices are too high for groceries, right? so they understand that the feelings are more important than the data at the end of the day for voters. >> i'm glad you brought that up. great job, by the way, you and your fellow panelists in the q&a with vice president harris. let me play part of what she said. this was the key section what she was asked about the economy. >> i don't think it is sufficient to just only talk about economic policy around reducing unemployment. do people have an opportunity to build wealth? if that's what they choose to do. if that's what they want to do. and a lot of my perspective as we go forward is just that. i believe that there are a lot of opportunities that are available to the american people if we just see -- if we see

people and understand what they want for themselves and their families, and then meet them where they are. >> i don't know anybody who doesn't want to build, brian, at least some wealth. i guess the question becomes, as we're putting this in the context of this campaign, how quickly people might see some of the results of this. mortgage rates were coming down in anticipation of this. but credit card debt, will mortgage rates come down even more so that some people will say you know what, maybe now that house is within reach. between now, where are we at control room? 48 days now? 48 days until the election, brian. i don't know if it's wednesday. how quick will they see something? >> yeah, i mean, more quickly for some things than others. it's an important point that you bring up, mortgage rates, credit card rates, these are all things tied to what the federal reserve is doing. not necessarily one for one. the federal reserve cut interest rates by half a percent today.

that doesn't mean the 30-year fixed mortgage rate is down half a percentage point compared to ten minutes ago. it could take a few months for credit card rates and auto loan rates to come down. mortgage rates have had this leading expectation that the federal reserve was going to do this. we have to remember, mortgage rates were somewhere around 8% in october of last year. they're somewhere around 6.2% now. that relief has come to prospective home buyers. the bigger thing when it comes to the federal reserve announcement is it's the central bank coming from the protection of the labor market. the bigger thing is not how much are you and i paying on credit cards, it's a result of do people lose jobs undually. that's the reason why the statement they just released codifies in there, they're paying minds and making sure they can protect the labor market and get their goal of maximum employment, which is the fed's rebate. on one hand. in addition to also keeping prices allow and calling

inflation. >> the vote was 11-1, ron insana, the only person who voted not to cut rates by a half percentage point was michelle bowman who preferred to lower the target range for federal funds by 1/4 percentage point at this meeting. now that it's a half, is it still just the beginning? could, for example, voters in the next 48 days see another rate cut? >> no, the fed is six weeks away. it's possible before the election that the fed will go, let's see, it's going to occur around the election date. the fed meetings are every six weeks. i don't know off the top of my head what the date is for the next meeting. we widely expect the fed to not endanger in a one and done, but continue lowering interest rates, not just through the remainder of this year, but lower by a full percentage point, if not a percentage point and a half in 2024, and another full percentage point in 2025 to ensure that the economy doesn't unnecessarily slip into a

recession as a inflation fight, certainly in my estimation has been won. you're now trying to support the economy. so, you know, i would ignore, just as we look at the markets on the screen, the first reactions to fed decisions generally speaking on wall street, are not the ones that last the long egs. -- longest. there's a lot of thinking and analyzing going on right now, the fed's more worried about the economy than they're letting on. 3/4 point would have been that. that's why they didn't do it. but what's really going on here is the fed is just in the process of bringing interest rates down to a level that matches where inflation currently is, and so, you know, the one dissent for a quarter point, we expected someone to dissent, it's the first time since they have started raising interest rates that we have seen a dissent, first time in a while that someone has gone in a different direction. it shows there's a rigorous debate inside the fed. by and large, it's widely expected that this process of

rate cutting is going to continue well into 2025. >> i did some quick research and by research, i mean i stared at brian cheung and turns out the research has shown me there will not be another rate cut, another fed meeting until after the election, so thank you for that, wikipedia. can i go back to the idea of what this might mean for the election, peter. one of the things that has struck me is the intensity with which this campaign has really micro targeted. look, we all know what a small number of voters will decide this election and a small number of states. when i think of the micro targeting and anybody who's been on the campaign trail and talked to young voters. there's a question about will young voters vote in record numbers. there's been a lot of attention with them. they're the ones saying, i don't know if i'll be able to buy a home. may have run up credit card debt. i wonder if this in any way

impacts the messaging in the campaign or the way they micro target certain constituencies. that may mean some of the people who were in those blue wall states that were slipping away when joe biden was looking like the nominee. >> yeah, i think that's possible, and obviously you'll see on president biden's schedule, he plans tomorrow to give a speech to the economic club of washington, he reached out and wanted to give a talk about the economy, where it is now, before this decision was made, and obviously knowing this decision was about to be made, and it wouldn't surprise me if he wants to use it to take a little bit of a victory lap. eugene's point is right. people don't look at numbers, not when they make up their minds about how they feel about the economy. they haven't given biden much credit, the fact that inflation is 2.5%. even though inflation has come down, prices haven't come down. they have plateaued. they haven't come back down, and nobody wants deflation.

at the grocery store, you're paying a lot. housing costs will come down as a result. it may not be fast enough that people make voting decisions based on their own sort of general feeling about where the economy is, and there's a lagging indicator between the time the economy does better and when people feel it in their lives in a way that makes a difference in an election campaign. 1992, president george h.w. bush was in trouble with the electorate because of the recession, but the recession ended by the time election day happened, it didn't benefit him. it was too late to change public perceptions, and i think that, you know, we'll see, maybe this is different. they're going to micro target, as you say, and make the case that they're on the right path and things are going well. don't worry about the economy so much. but, you know, i think we ought to be cautious in assuming a major impact. >> let's talk about maybe the

bigger economic picture if we can for a minute. one of the things kamala harris has been doing is being very specific about the kinds of plans she's proposing with wide approval, particularly among americans who are worried about the economy from, you know, raising the amount of child tax credits to significantly increasing the amount of aid available to somebody who wants to start a small business. having said that, after the debate, which virtually everyone said she won, if you talk to voters, i read all the voters that talked to the "new york times," for example, peter's paper, one of the questions is how are we going to pay for it? what are the details? hillary clinton says one of my criticisms was that i gave too many details, but does the vice president need to tell people more about what she's going to do? are these broad suggestions enough? >> i think she's up against somebody who doesn't give much

detail at all on any policy, chris, and so i think that the trouble with giving all the details to your plans is then you have all the details out there, and people are going to rip your plan apart. i think back to the 2020 campaign with elizabeth warren in the democratic primary. it does allow for people to rip that apart. i'm not saying you shouldn't give as much detail as possible. when you're running against donald trump, you give enough information so people understand what you are trying to do and how it will benefit their lives, while also contrasting the fact that donald trump's entire plan is more tax cuts for rich people and corporations, and a tariff that will raise taxes on everybody, and exacerbating the deficit by trillions of dollars. and so i think it's really important that you understand that you're in a campaign, and you have a contract with your opponent. and those are just -- that's just the reality of the situation. so you give enough details, but

not too much. >> tariffs that are going to pay for child care, another very important part of the conversation. but how that's going to work is up for grabs. eugene. let me let you have the last word, if you can, eugene, which is this. the trump messaging, none of the other positive economic indicators has changed his basic message. i don't know why this one would. in fact, it would probably be shocking, if it did. but when push comes to shove, i guess let me go back to the sort of key question looking at november. is the economy, and how people feel about it already baked in, if, for example, and this may be the biggest data point. people don't go to their grocery stores and a bag of groceries that costs them 80 bucks now doesn't go down to 70 or 60. that doesn't change the way they look at the economy. >> yeah, i don't think it is. i think people may look at it in the exact same way. it's up to the harris campaign,

and democrats that are helping and hoping that she's going to win the election to convince voters that that macroeconomics means that at the very least, help is on the way. this means that things are coming, and it's going to change soon. i think one of the things that the biden administration and then the biden campaign didn't do well was explain that the help was on the way. things were going to get better. they kept saying it was okay, and that basically telling voters to not believe the receipts they were having when they were leaving grocery stores. and the thing that's really interesting. you mentioned former president donald trump, how he's going to talk about this, he's more likely to say that the fed is in the pocket of the harris campaign, and trying to help her in this election than anything else. he's unlikely to talk about how this is better, that, you know, even this is good for us and i will take it as president in

january, and we will make it even better than it was before. the thing he's going to do is be combative and obfuscate at the very least about what's going to happen here. it's up to vice president harris to convince people to feel differently about the campaign. one thing i found interesting in our conversation is she spent about 15 minutes on the economy. we each asked her a targeted question, and she gave the most detail because that was the venue, the forum to do it, how she thinks about the economy, what her plans are and what those specifics look like, and black men, teetering on some of them voting for donald trump, and so the information is out there. they have to continue to repeat it over and over and over again, and sometimes democrats aren't very good at that. >> let me say because we haven't read much of it, but when you're looking at the fact that the fed has made a decision to cut interest rates by half a point, the first line explaining the decision is this, recent

indicators suggest that economic activity has continued to expand at a solid pace. peter baker, eugene daniels, zerlina maxwell, ron insana, brian cheung. love this panel. thank you all for being with us. appreciate it. the ukrainian drone on russia that was so big, the fire balls could be seen from space. ♪♪ ♪♪ citi's industry leading global payments solutions help their clients move money around the world seamlessly in over 180 countries... and help a partner like the world food programme as they provide more than food to people in need. together, citi and the world food programme empower families across the globe. ♪♪ question. empower families if you can't see what's behind all this, how do you already know, it's jeep?

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jaw dropping footage of a ukrainian drone attack on a russian military facility. it sent up fire balls so high they were picked up by nasa satellitings. the strike was intense enough to set off norwegian earthquake monitors that read the blast as a 3.2 magnitude quake. ukraine says the attack is part of its teams to methodically reduce the russian missile supply being used to destroy ukrainian cities. to lebanon where dozens of walky talkies exploded in a second wave of attacks apparently targeting hezbollah. the brand new video shows the impact of explosion on just one home where you can see the remnants of the walkie-talkie there destroyed. the health ministry says 14 people were killed, 450 more injured today. this comes a day after hundreds of pagers detonated in an attack blamed on israel. i want to bring in nbc news correspondent, daniele hamamdjian. what more do we know about this second wave of attacks?

>> reporter: it comes on the same day when israeli officials have declared the northern front now their focus and declaring a new phase of the war. journalists at a funeral for people who were killed yesterday reported hearing explosions, state media saying that the devices exploded in the hands at some of those people at the site. fires broke out in dozens of homes, shops, and vehicles were on fire, motorcycles, fewer explosions than yesterday, chris, but it seems with a bigger impact. yesterday thousands of pagers as you know exploded across lebanon simultaneously. 12 people were killed. i want to pause for one moment, among those 12, they were not all hezbollah combatants, among those 12 were two children, an 8-year-old and an 11-year-old child. 2,800 injuries, 300 critically

injured, surgeries performed on faces, hands, many lost an eye, if not both eyes in the attack. israel has yet to comment, but according to two u.s. officials and a senior diplomat in the middle east, telling nbc news that they think israel was behind the attack, the u.n. human rights chief saying that this was a violation of international law, the indiscriminate nature of the attack, that it was done without any knowledge of who would be in possession of those pagers. why now, and what is the bigger strategic goal? that is still unclear. certainly it was a coup for israeli intelligence. for hezbollah, it is humiliating. however, it is going to be, you know, they will be degraded in terms of their communication capabilities, but how this will advance the war goal, that is now to bring back the return of tens of thousands of israelis back to the north, how that attack will help them get there,

it is still very unclear at the moment, chris. >> daniele hamamdjian, thank you. tonight, donald trump will hold his first campaign rally since the second apparent attempt on his life. that close call fresh in his mind in michigan last night, even as he was asked about the economy. >> i'm telling you right now, i'm putting a 200% tariff, which means they're unsellable. unsellable in the united states. and then you wonder why i get shot at, right? you know, only consequential presidents get shot at. >> nbc's ali vitali is reporting from uniondale, new york, where donald trump will be rallying later tonight. so, ali, that's not the only thing donald trump said last night that has people talking. tell us what else you have to talk about, and why is he doing a rally in a state he's almost certain to lose in november? >> reporter: i know, i thought you were choking because it's so strange to see a republican

presidential nominee campaigning in new york, less than 50 days until election day. i'll take the first part of your question, which is last night in michigan, trump did raise some eyebrows for seemingly confusing the arctic national wildlife refuge in alaska with bag ram air base in afghanistan. listen to this conversation he was having with the crowd around energy independence and the way he seemed to mix these things up. watch. >> we would have been now having so much money coming out of the energy, we just have the best. we have bagram in alaska. they say it might be as big, might be bigger than all of saub. saudi arabia. i got it done. in the first week, they terminated it. check that one out. bagram. >> reporter: so, of course, a mix up there from the former president, one that we've seen him make on the campaign trail or akin to the mistakes that we've seen him make on the

campaign trail. look, as he heads to new york tonight, it is of course against the backdrop of what we saw over the weekend, the averted attempted attack on him at his golf club, and the question of why you're seeing a republican campaigning in new york. trump will say, at least he has on truth social, he sees new york in play at the presidential level. that's farfetched but it is definitely a state that is critically important to republicans' chances of retaining the house. you'll remember in 2022, i came here on the ground doing reporting in my home district and some others here that helped the house flip in favor of republicans. this is one of those districts that's considered a swing district. currently held by republican anthony despacito. he's one of the long island republicans that's going to be coming to the rally tonight, skipping, we're told, house votes, and instead, coming here to rally with the former president. that's complicating, though, in a swing district like this one, that we saw biden win in 2020. redistricting has made it

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they're still waiting for him to arrive in court, but my moment now, disgraced hollywood producer harvey weinstein is set to be arraigned on additional sex crime charges that have remained under seal. msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin is with me. what do we expect to hear from today's hearing? last week when he wasn't able to show up at a hearing scheduled to arraign him on these new charges, prosecutors and his lawyers agreed that they would hold today's date, and if mr. weinstein was able to physically get there, that he could be arraigned on these new charges. we understand that harvey weinstein has left bellevue where he was being kept in the prison ward and is expected to attend today. that means harvey weinstein will likely be arraigned. he'll have an opportunity to plead guilty or not guilty, and then the district attorney will outline what these new charges are against mr. weinstein. we understand from his lawyers that they stem from a series of incidents, one perhaps dating

back to 2005 or 2006, one going to '15 or '16, all at downtown hotels, but beyond that we don't know how many victims they are or what the charges are. >> there was a landmark me too case he was involved in. he's awaiting retrial on that, and there's a disagreement from the two sides about whether or not this becomes one trial, you sort of fold in these new charges into that retrial or you separate them. what are the things the judge has to consider? >> the judge has to consider if mr. weinstein and his lawyers have enough time, particularly given that he's currently being held at rikers island or would be if he's returning from bellevue to meet and prepare that defense in anticipation of the november existing trial date. ordinarily from now to november might be enough time to prepare a defense. again, mr. weinstein is being detained. these are charges that he says he's not familiar with. they will want some time to make

pretrial motions. >> you mentioned this was delayed already a week, and he does have a condition. he just had emergency heart surgery. so how could that play into all of this? >> i think if mr. weinstein continues to have health difficulties and is not healthy enough for trial, you should expect his lawyers to make representations to the judge about his medical needs and his ability to stand trial or to come to court regularly, asking for accommodations even if he is healthy enough. i think that's an additional wrinkle in an already wrinkled case with respect to these new charges and how they interact with the new trial we're expecting in november. >> just to be clear, he has the right and/or obligation to be in court every day he's at trial. >> correct, he has the right and the obligation. i'm really glad that you said both of those things because in new york state, the defendant has to be present at his or her criminal trial. >> lisa rubin, thank you. we will wait to see what happens there this afternoon. and still ahead, 12 days and counting to keep the government from shutting down.

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they are not going to put it on the floor. president biden suggested he would veto it. here's speaker johnson earlier today, and on the flip side, you'll hear one of the top democrats in the house. >> we'll see what happens with the bill. all right. we're on the field in the middle of the game. the quarterback's calling the play. we're going to run the play. i'm very confident i know that all the republicans believe in election security. we have some people who dislike crs. >> this is not going to become law. this is republican theatrics that are meant to appease the most extreme members of their conference. >> reporter: our viewers are probably thinking this is deja vu because we have seen in happen throughout the year. this time, though, it's even more different because we are a couple of weeks out from the election. republicans and democrats alike don't want to see a shutdown. we heard that from the top republican in the senate yesterday, mitch mcconnell, who said it would, quote, be stupid. we'll see what happens. >> i want to ask you about the contentious moment in a senate hearing. senator john kennedy was questioning the executive director of the arab american

institute. what exactly happened? >> reporter: this was just a wild moment to really watch. he questioned maya barry, as you mentioned, the director of that institute. it was during a hearing in the senate judiciary committee on hate crimes. we heard from her, we heard from muslim advocates, jewish advocacy groups, talking about anti-semitism specifically on college campuses. i want you to hear the interaction between senator kennedy and this witness for yourself. >> you support hamas, do you not? >> senator, oddly enough, i'm going to say thank you for that question because it demonstrates the purpose of our hearing today. >> let's start first with a yes or no. >> hamas is a foreign terrorist organization that i do not support. i think it's exceptionally disappointing that you're looking at an arab witness, i do not support hamas. >> you can't bring yourself to say you don't support unra,

hamas. you should hide your head in a bag. >> reporter: anyone who watched that interaction, whether you were in the room or watching as a viewer on the screen could very clearly tell that berry said she does not support hamas, hezbollah or any foreign terrorist organization. kennedy defending those remarks, even a couple of minutes ago to my colleague, he said she suggested israel supports a genocide, and a number of the staff were fired for potentially helping hamas on october 7th. congress, again, did not authorize funds for that organization this year. dick durbin who is the top democrat in the senate judiciary committee, a spokesperson for him, released a statement telling nbc news in part, quote, the violent horrific remarks made by senator kennedy yesterday were completely unacceptable and have no place in our dialogue, let alone a senate judiciary committee

hearing. political leaders must not fan the flames of hatred and division, something, chris, we're seeing on the political stage and among civilians as well. >> and just to clarify for people who don't understand our shorthand, unra is a u.n. organization who provide help to palestinians, which she, as she said, does indeed support. julie tsirkin, thank you very much. pennsylvania's governor josh shapiro just learned the hard way that just because you're the big boss in your state doesn't mean you can get out of being carded. the governor was marking a new law that allows pennsylvanians to buy canned boozy drinks at their local grocery store and gas station. he apparently brought his excitement but forgot his i.d. this picture from one local reporter there capturing the employee sticking to the letter of the law. no i.d., no alcohol, gov, and everybody apparently got a laugh out of it. still to come on "chris jansing reports," the scary moment in the skies that left delta passengers bloodied, what

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