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new york city. did her political gamble pay off? what new polls are telling us about kamala harris' risky strategy to challenge donald trump not where he is weakest but where he is strongest? could it put her over the top in must-win pennsylvania? fighting hate with love. a pastor from springfield, ohio, trying to shepherd his community through a political and cultural firestorm. he will join me to explain what he thinks he needs -- what he thinks needs to happen now. israeli fighter jets pound hezbollah targets as terrorist leaders declare the blast linked to handheld devices a declaration of war. we have a top military analyst standing by. we begin with a new poll indicating donald trump may be losing ground to kamala harris on critical issues in critical states. michigan, pennsylvania and wisconsin voters say trump leads

on the economy, but it's between two and four points. harris has closed the gap on immigration. only trump's seven-point lead in wisconsin is outside the margin of error. taken together, one analyst says, it's a red flag for the trump campaign. that didn't stop trump from making this pitch to voters in long island last night. >> look at what's happening. businesses that are fleeing, money draining out of your state. hundreds of thousands of illegal migrants sucking your public resources dry. a key part of restoring safety and saving our economy is stopping the invasion at the border of our country. it's crazy. >> as politico points out, trump's polling before last week's debate has consistently had him leading harris in

pennsylvania. today, not only does the poll have her up by five, a new "new york times" poll shows her up by four. quote, by reassembling much of the core democratic coalition in the state, winning the support of black voters, younger voters, and women there. i want to bring in nbc's dasha burns, former florida republican congressman carlo carbello. dasha, is there any indication they are thinking about changing messaging? >> there are a lot of factors here. there is just a lot of momentum for harris right now. everyone was wondering whether that would slow down. it hasn't really yet when you are on the ground and talking to voters. number two, there's the real economic indicators, like what we saw with the fed.

there are things that people are starting to tangibly see turn around in the economy. it really is that galvanizing of the base that harris has done that i think has made some of the biggest difference here. the base was not excited. now they are. that turnout, getting people to the polls that do support you, that are in line with your issues, that's so critical. for the former president, his base is still very much on board. there are some parts of it like the evangelical vote that's concerned about what he has been saying on the issue of reproductive rights. one of the challenges is that his campaign has tried to put him in these scenarios where he can talk about issues, whether at the border or a police station trying to talk about crime or in front of groceries talking about the economy. he has consistently strayed from the message.

they can't keep him focused on those issues. he is making headlines that are distracting from the issues, where he could and in some cases his allies think he should be winning. >> let's look at the overall numbers in the swing states. among likely voters in pennsylvania and michigan, harris leads by five. in wisconsin, up by one. in all those states, only between 1% and 2% say they are undecided. 1% and 2%, that's where we are in three battleground states. what makes the difference when you get down to the wire? >> this is all about turnout. i don't know if 1% or 2% are undecided. >> the issues are baked in? >> completely baked in. they have been baked in for months. people know how they feel about donald trump. they either love him and will walk over glass to vote for him or they can't stand him and walk over glass to vote against him. the bottom line is, kamala harris needs to ensure that that coalition that she has reassembled, the young voters,

african american voters, college-educated women, they turn out and they get to the polls. >> is it tied together then if she's making moves in key area where he was far ahead, the economy, immigration, if folks are moving toward her, does it make it more likely they will turn out? >> the enthusiasm is with her. there is an enthusiasm gap also. trump -- americans don't like reruns. people don't want to have a rerun. trump is a rerun. they have heard this before. all the jokes, all the conspiracy theories. we have been hearing this for nearly a decade since he came down the elevator. at this point, people want to turn the page. he has been around a long time. he has been sucking the air out of our political system for a very long time. at this point, people want to come out and have a new start. that's what she represents. joe biden didn't because he was joe biden. he had been around a long time, too. she's a breath of fresh air.

>> congressman, harris' most straightforward path is through pennsylvania. how much of a red flag could that be for donald trump? >> to me it's evidence that while both candidates have strong bases, as dasha said, certainly vice president harris has shored up the democratic base, a base that was deflated with the biden candidacy. of course, we know donald trump has always had a very strong base. kamala harris has an advantage over donald trump. she has, as traditionally candidates have done in the united states, pivoted to the middle for the general election. she's actually making a play for swing voters, trying to broaden the democratic party's tent. she has shifted on issues like energy, fracking. she has proposed a tax policy

that's more moderate than president biden. that is what i attribute some of her recent successes in polling to, to the fact that she's actually vying for these swing voters, these undecided voters while donald trump keeps doubling down on his base. we have seen, for a few election cycles, his base isn't just enough to get him across the finish line. >> dasha, "the times" says they were surprised harris is doing so well in pennsylvania. the national poll shows it a dead heat. you spent a lot of time in pennsylvania. you and i talk whenever you are in house about the time you are spending there. what is it that you think is connecting? what's resonating with those voters? >> look, in all likelihood, knowing pennsylvania, it's going to be close. it's always close. it's likely to be close. when i was talking to voters before harris was the democratic nominee, there was so much frustration, depression even, i

would say, about the repeat of 2020, the trump versus biden again. people felt -- those moderate felt like biden who sold himself as the son of pennsylvania, as somebody who was going to be there for working class families, he hadn't done enough. he wasn't taking the issues of the economy seriously enough, for example. just generally, they weren't happy with the choices. they were tuned out. a lot of people were thinking they might honestly sit this one out just because they were so frustrated with the state of affairs. that's changed. harris is acknowledging the economy is a challenge that while there are some successes, that prices are too high. people need to hear that. even if there are indicators that the economy is getting better. when people don't feel empathy from politicians, seeing they are struggling, that prices are still high, even if the rate of inflation is down, they feel that from the government.

there's a sense of empathy from harris that perhaps wasn't felt by voters with biden. again, it's that freshness, the newness. it's not the same old story. there's something to pay attention to now when before they were really pretty happy to tune it out. >> i want to ask about female voters. in all three states, harris' lead among women is 20 points or close to it. then there was an article in politico about north carolina, another swing state. when you add in comments from the gubernatorial candidate, it is almost as if the three leading republican candidates were built in a lab to offend female voters. it's funny, but the abortion issue started this off. in many ways, with some of the other comments that have been made, in some ways are donald trump and his vice presidential

pick j.d. vance and the gubernatorial work doing her work for her with women? >> you couldn't have constructed a better alternative to what they are saying. you have a woman, an empowered woman, second most powerfulrunn against people who want to take agency away from women. you don't want to hear criticism of childless cat ladies, even if you are a mother. you don't want to hear sarah huckabee sanders saying a woman who is a stepmother is lesser than or doesn't have any kind of responsibility in her life because she was only a stepmother and didn't physically give birth. there are plenty of stepparents out there, people who are men who are helping to raise children. when you have j.d. vance and

donald trump and mark robinson -- >> suggesting we shouldn't give young women contraception. >> they may take contraception not just for birth control but for other health care reasons. they are constantly putting down women, trying to drag them back -- i don't care what your political persuasion used to be. that really just doesn't sit right with women. it doesn't sit right with men who care about women and who are in these positions where they are helping to raise children who may not be theirs by birth. i spent part of my life in northampton, pennsylvania. they have had it. i have never seen this kind of vitriol directed as a republican by them. they just -- they are offended to their core about the way that they are being talked about, the way their daughters are being talked about. that's why you are seeing those

numbers move for donald trump in pennsylvania. all he is talking about is fracking. they don't care about fracking. they care about making sure they are respected. they are not being. >> congressman, the ap poll pointed out about general opinions of the two candidates. it found that among registered voters, harris' favorability is plus eight. trump on the other hand, minus 23. 60% have an unfavorable view of them. minus 28 with independents. can you win with those kinds of numbers? what does favorability really speak to? >> chris, the only reason that donald trump is in this race is because he has such a solid base of support. i really think that if we look at these poll numbers today, it shows that that's just not going to be enough like it wasn't enough in the 18 midterms in 2020 when he ran for re-election

and in 2022 when republicans were supposed to have a massive wave. people don't like donald trump's tone. they don't like the way he speaks about things. he loses those swing voters. he is left with just his base, which is strong, it's solid. but it's not enough. i talked earlier about this pivot to the center. that's not just on policy. the pivot to the center also refers to tone, to the way candidates speak to a general election audience. very different than primaries. kamala harris has figured that out. she's talking about being inclusive. she has committed to appointing a republican to her -- today, she's winning. this could change. we still have a few weeks to go. the trends are good for kamala harris. it's because donald trump has refused, despite the begging of a lot of republicans, to adopt a strategy that appeals to the center of the country.

>> i misspoke. i will blame my aging eyes. it's minus 26 with independents, not 28. i would say, still not a great number. thank you both very much. coming up, new explosions in lebanon amid growing fears of an escalating war in the middle east. what we are hearing from hezbollah's leader, next. try nt eating the other half of the footlong? the more you end up eating the other half of your footlong. no one can resist juicy chicken, smoky bacon, and creamy ranch. get the elite chicken and bacon ranch. now at subway!

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in the last several hours, israel's military carried out an extensive wave of air strikes in lebanon moments before hezbollah's leader gave his first public comments after days of device explosions that left the middle east fearing all-out war. hezbollah described the attack that killed at least 37d thousa that amounted to an act of war. israel has not claimed or denied responsibility. josh, what did we hear from hezbollah about where this goes from here? >> the leader of hezbollah gave a speech today where he vowed retribution against israel. he said that punishment is coming where israel expects it and where it does not. the commander of the irgc, the iranian elite paramilitary said

there will be a crushing response from iran's proxies to the israeli strikes over the last couple of days. the hezbollah leader stopped short of declaring all-out war on israel. that's a good thin missiles hezd at israel. the israelis are not backing down. the booms from israeli fighter jets breaking the sound barrier over the skies of lebanon were heard throughout the city. in the last few hours, israel has not only been conducting air strikes, but mounting artillery attacks across the border into southern lebanon. the israelis tell us that they are not crossing the border on the ground. this is not the start of a ground invasion of southern lebanon. take all of the factors together over the last few days, and i think most officials in the region are concerned we are potentially closer to an all-out

war between israel and hezbollah than we have been at any point so far since october 7. >> admiral, let me go back to what the leader of hezbollah said. it was an unprecedented blow that crossed all red lines and amounted to an act of war. how do you see it? >> i see three things that the israelis have done with the exploing pagers, followed by the exploding walkie-talkies, at a tactical level, chris. they have inflicted some real damage physically on members of hezbollah. at an operational level, they have taken away communications. now hezbollah, which was relying on these pagers, because they knew the israelis could track their cellphones, now that's gone. they are down to couriers and handwritten messages. that's got real operational difficulties for hezbollah. then strategically, pretty

obviously, josh alluded to it, it's a signal sent to the hezbollah but to the entire region, particularly the iranians, that we have a lot of options. we can do a lot of things. it's a pretty strong move. now you pile on it with a series of air strikes, artillery. i would put it all together, chris, and pre-pager explosions, i felt we had a 10% chance of a wider war. now i think that is verging up toward 20%, which is uncomfortably high. >> yeah. hezbollah is widely considered the most formidable of all iranian proxy groups. on a strategic level, how damaging were the device explosions, just in terms of their ability to communicate, but also to fight. . >> extremely damaging. there's no quick fix to this. if you worked in the i.t. department of hezbollah, they

are having a difficult time finding replacements. they don't know what the israelis have managed to get into. we tend to focus on the actual device. i would invite listeners to think the real triumph is getting into the global supply chain. the israelis tapped into these pagers somewhere in production or transit, were able to manipulate all of them. that's really quite extraordinary. when you combine the tactical impact, the operational impact and as you say the strategic impact, it's a significant blow against this terrorist organization. >> what kinds of conversations are taking place right now at the pentagon and the state department, with allies, to prepare for whatever comes? >> number one, as is always the case in these scenarios, it's about, what are the u.s. forces in the region, where are they, where are the aircraft carriers,

where are the destroyers and cruisers from the navy, where are the land-based fighter and attack aircraft of the air force, where are the special forces, what's the posture of cyber and space? complete review. as we just talked about, if the chances of a wider war are going up -- i firmly believe they are -- those u.s. forces may be able to keep something of a lid on it by creating deterrents in the eyes of the iranians to some degree hezbollah. bottom line, chris, i think you will see an increase in u.s. force presence and perhaps another u.s. carrier sent to the region. >> admiral james stavridis,

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the mayor of springfield, ohio, issued a proclamation today granting himself temporary emergency powers to address growing safety concerns in his city. that includes bomb threats to schools, hospitals and other government offices tied to false claims about haitian immigrants stealing and eating people's pets. a debate was canceled. calling the decision the most responsible course of action given current events. though the city manager made it clear that a visit to springfield by donald trump would be an extreme strain on resources, he now says he plans to go there in the next two weeks. >> i'm going to springfield. i'm going to aurora. you may never see me again. that's okay. whatever happened to trump? he never got out of springfield.

>> joining me, the reverend carl ruby in springfield, ohio. i appreciate you talking to us. sounds like a silly question, but how is your community doing? how are they coping? >> you know, there are two sides to that. one is, everyone is afraid. there are bomb threats continuing today. the haitian community in particular are afraid. we are passing out cards that said, we're glad you are here, christ loves you and so do i. i handed one to one teenager and he broke down sobbing. that's one side. the other side i'm hearing from haitians is that the vast majority in springfield are kind to me. there are two realities unfolding. >> what would you like people to know about your community? particularly, about the haitian migrants who call it home. >> i think the big story is that

for 80 years, we were a shrinking community. before the haitians ariefsh -- arrived, we had fewer people than in 1920. they are starting churches, non-profits, paying taxes. there's a very positive side. that doesn't mean it's not without challenges. we really need support. i would like to do a direct appeal to president biden. we need $5 million to $10 million right now to handle what's happening in springfield. that's the number given to me by our community leaders. we have over 50 bomb threats in the last three or four days. we need help. as a follower of christ, i appreciate the present support for immigrants. but we need help. policy did not provide assistance we need. we need it tomorrow. not a week from now.

>> i want to ask you a question and not in a political way. you are not a politician. they do overlap, obviously, in this situation. what do you make of a decision by the former president of the united states to not listen to the city manager, who says, all the things you are telling us, the strain on resources in a city the size of springfield with the resources the size of springfield is almost certainly unprecedented for that city, and then the suggestion he made last night that he might not make it out of there? >> jesus said, he is the way, the light and the truth. the truth is, these awful things have not been happening in springfield. the truth is, if he were to retract his story, everything would calm down. i think he has great influence on some of the people who have come to our community to do

harm. i know they respect him. if he would just ask them to go home, that would be a great help. >> let me ask you about the community itself a little bit more. what many people have found, whether they live in new york city, in the aftermath of 9/11, or whether they live in a small town where there has been a shooting in a school, any community that has faced an unprecedented crisis, it is often extraordinary the way neighbors come together. i wonder what you have seen, some examples of what you have seen in your community. >> one thing i want to say, i have had a lot of media coverage this week. i have gotten tons of emails from people i don't know from all over the world. almost every single one has been positive. here in the community of springfield, there are pastors who never worked together before who are arm in arm.

god loves immigrants. he commands we do. immigrants are so important. they made the ten commandments. moses talked about a need to welcome immigrants. king david talked about it. most of all, jesus talked about it. in the sermon on the mount jesus said, if you are a righteous person, you will greet strangers, it's a word for immigrant or foreigner, and he went on to say, if you only greet people who are like you, what good is that? to me, you can't claim to be loyal to jesus if you are not willing to show love to immigrants. that's so central to the christian message. i think this is a time for the church really to get back to what it means to be a true christian. that's a person who loves their neighbor as we love ourselves and treats others as we would like to be treated. these people are not coming on

vacation. they are coming because their lives are in danger in haiti. i can't imagine what it would be like for me if i had to leave my country because my life was in danger and then to experience this in a good city like springfield. springfield is a midwestern city that loves people and welcomes people. there are lots of wonderful things happening here. but they come here and they experience all this hate, most coming from outside our community. this is a chance for the body of christ to step up. >> we don't have much time, but i do want to ask you, what is your level of conference right now that springfield will come through this stronger, perhaps, than ever before? are you still too much in the center of it with bomb threats continuing to come in today to know? >> i'm 100% confident that springfield will come through this.

i don't know how soon that will happen. i believe that god is in control. i think the city is filled with good people. i think that when we look back on this five years from now, we will see this was a turning point for the better. i really do -- i invite president biden to call me, call city leaders. we need your help. if we could get $5 million to $10 million, that would help us deal with the unrest and chaos that has happened since the debate. >> as a fellow wie ohio want -- ohioian and a fellow american, thank you for coming on. maybe somebody will get president biden your message. speaker mike johnson's new hunt for a plan b with the government shutdown looming. we will head to capitol hill.

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today, house speaker mike johnson is in search of a plan b after failing to convince his republican colleagues to pass a stopgap funding bill. >> i'm disappointed. i know this is the right thing to do. i think the american people will let the folks that voted no tonight hear their concerns about it.

>> senate republicans are increasingly unhappy that johnson tacked a measure on to the spending bill requiring proof of citizenship to vote. donald trump wants it, believing it's key to winning in november, a theme he pounded at his long island rally. >> the mobs of illegal migrants are being put up in luxury hotels at your expense while the veterans live on the sidewalks outside the main entrance to where the migrants enter their hotel. we have veterans on the street. they are looking at people coming in, came into our country and they are going up to the 17th floor of their suite. how crazy has our country become? >> ali vitali is covering the story from capitol hill. i don't need to tell you, this is the second time that speaker

johnson has been rebuked by his colleagues. is there a plan b? what happens now? >> reporter: another reminder it's difficult to be the house speaker of this republican majority. you have a range of opinions. they are not afraid to air them. they are not afraid to embarrass the speaker. that's what yesterday's vote was, chris. you are not used to seeing republican leadership put bills on the floor that they know are going to fail. for johnson, that was sort of the point. to continuously show the members of his conference that he is committed to this plan a, if you want to call it that. putting the save act, that voting integrity bill at republicans call it, in attachment with the continuing resolution that would fund the government through march of next year. that is plan a, johnson says he is sticking with plan a. but he will have to move to plan b. leader jeffries echoed the idea he does want to avoid a shutdown but he will not do it the way republicans tried and failed to do it yesterday. watch.

>> we want to avoid a shutdown. we are also not going to pay the maga extremists' ransom demand of jamming parts of 2025 into an appropriations bill and down the throats of the american people. >> reporter: there's the house view on this. on the senate side, leader schumer is basically beginning the process of avoiding a government shutdown himself, trying to pressure house republicans specifically to get to the table with something that both chambers in bipartisan fashion can vote for. what they did yesterday clearly ain't it. >> ali vitali, good to see you. thank you very much. the impact and energy of both campaign's ground games will be put to the test. wisconsin begins mail-in ballots days ahead of the deadline for absentee ballots to be sent to military and overseas voters. with a dozen other states

preparing to send out their ballots. this is a critical time. here is why. in the 2016 election, 2020 was off because of covid, the combination of absentee and oversea ballots were more than the difference in the margins in all seven battleground states. take georgia specifically. that difference was just 717 votes. joining us now, the executive director of swing left and vote forward. welcome back to the program. you spend pretty much all of your time looking at a ground game. help us quantify the importance of early voting. >> thank you so much for the question. as your chart showed, voting is started in a lot of parts of this country. election day is last day to vote. a lot of -- all we do at swing left is make sure volunteers and donors are able to channel all of their energy, their time and their money, to the places that

as you showed will come down to the margins. all of those states, we have got 47 days left in this election, but in places like wisconsin, where people are getting their ballots today, knocking on those doors this saturday could be the difference. to paint a picture of what that looks like, i met with one of our target house candidates out in arizona. a critical race that's going to be probably down to a couple hundred votes in the end. something he was sharing with me is he has a 20-day runway until not just mail-in voting but in-person early voting starts in his district. the overwhelming majority of the people that he needs to recruit to vote for him are going to be voting early, whether it's in person or by mail. he is like, i have 20 days to knock every day, to make every call, to get those donations in. i hope your viewers who are feeling fired up about this election but haven't donated or volunteered are taking action

today and will help. >> i talked to the wisconsin republican chair who has been somebody who pushed hard for early voting, against some of the people in his party. he knows how competitive it's going to be in wisconsin. he put it this way. having ron johnson and tammy baldwin both in the u.s. senate is like a psychiatrist couch of politics. it tells you how divided it is. are you sensing though that there's been a change in attitude among a lot of republicans and early voting is going to be more competitive this year? >> yeah. we actually -- we saw that in virginia last cycle. it was this contrast between donald trump trying to link early voting into his conspiracy theories around the integrity of the election, while republicans in an off-year election in virginia were pushing early voting because they know how much it matters. it matters -- this is really important.

it matters because with so few days in an election and a really calcified electorate, it means there are few people they can persuade to switch sides. with so few of those people, we have to spend all our time on those people. republicans and democrats know, if we can get people on our side to vote early, we don't need to worry about them, worry about getting them out to vote, then we can focus on the small, small sliver of non-calcified voters. republicans might talk a big game about how they don't support it. but their get out of vote efforts shows a different story, particularly among seniors, among people who are very, very reliable voters. we have work to do to make sure numbers are high on our side, too. >> he told me exactly what you just said. the fewer people who are out there who you need to really focus on, the better it is, i guess, for both sides.

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kingdom, france, and when they looked all of these countries across access to care, administrative efficient, health outcomes, it's no surprise we're ranking very low, if not the lowest in overall performance. it manifests every day with patients, access to care. chris, think about how long it takes to get an appointment. think how long it takes to get in to see a specialist. add to that if you're on medicaid, i'll make it easier. what if you're in texas, they didn't expand medicaid, florida, state where is they have not expanded access where we have the ability to do it today. that's why we're seeing these results. >> and just try to get in to get an mri or mammogram, six months. >> yes. >> anyway, the report says that the u.s. has the lowest life expectancy and the highest rate of preventable and treatable excess deaths. what are we doing wrong? can we reverse this trend? >> yeah, i think we need to move from like a, you know, i say

this and i take a lot of humility because i'm part of the problem. we have a sickness system. as doctors and professionals, we respond to sickness. you go to the hospital, you go to a doctor, when you don't feel good. chris, what if we inverted that pyramid, paid health coaches, primary care doctors, what if we paid them the most. this is sometimes what we see in other countries, to prevent illness. it's something we're starting to get a little bit better about prevention. none of us want to be sick. all of us want to live longer. i want to be active to see my kids grow up, have their own kids. why don't we pay for those outcomes. the way the insurance system is designed, and we're tied year to year, you might change your plan, that plan doesn't know you want to work on prevention and we have a distance between our providers and patients, there's a gap between us, sometimes a physical screen between us, we don't get to look patients in the eyes. we need to change that equation,

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