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>> and he's been an unbelievable lieutenant governor, mark robinson. but you know, i heard him coming in on the plane, i was listening and i said to the people on the plane, watch this. this is martin luther king on steroids. >> so much love there for north carolina candidate for governor mark robinson. now robinson's bombshell porn website scandal, which he denies, could sink trump's chances of winning that critical state. also tonight, election day is november 5th, but for maga it is all about january 6th and getting trump's foot soldiers in place to challenge a kamala harris victory. plus, president biden was celebrating the amazing success of bidenomics today. inflation is down, and against all odds a recession has been averted, which republicans are for some reason unhappy about. we begin tonight in north

carolina where cnn is reporting shocking new details about the current lieutenant governor, mark robinson, who is the republican nominee for governor. cnn unearthed deeply disturbing and graphic posts that robinson made on a pornographic website called nude africa. yes, that's the real name. more than a decade ago. in those posts robinson, using the monicker mini soldier -- not spelled properly, referred to himself as a black nazi. he also expressed the desire to reinstate slavery, saying -- and i quote -- slavery is not bad. some people need to be slaves. i wish they would bring it back. i would certainly buy a few. slaves he means. when rebuked by some fellow porn fans for disparaging mlk in terms so vile he was likened to a klansmen he replied, quote.

i'm not in the kkk. they don't let blacks join. if i was in the kkk i would hav. he us expressed values of transgender folks. he called himself a perv who enjoyed watching transgender intercourse. he also recounted a time he was peeping on teenage girls when they were showering in high school. he also had wildly offensive language about gays, muslims and jewish people but they're so vile i can't repeat them on cable. cnn spoke with robinson today and asked him directly about the allegation. >> do you deny this account is you? >> first off let me say thank you for allowing me to come here and clear the air. we absolutely do. this is not us. these are not our words and it

is not anything characteristic of me, for has it ever been. the people here of north carolina know i have been completely transparent about my history, all of the warts. we put them all out. >> there have been rumors that some of your campaign staff have quit. can you tell us if that's true or not? >> absolutely not, and we are not getting out of this race. there are people who are counting on us to win this race. >> yeah, so this is the part where i remind you that a deeply reported north carolina magazine called "the assembly" spoke with six men who said robinson frequented a greensboro video porn shop in the '90s and early 2000s, which is around the time these new allegations happened. robinson denied those allegations as well. cnn however uncovered the posts by cross referencing his pseudonym, mini soldier, with robinson's personal information. additionally, robinson listed his full name on his profile for

nude africa as well as an e-mail address he used on numerous web sites he used on the internet for decades. these posts came we should note before he was a public figure. robinson claims the north carolina people know who he is, but for the rest of you i just want to remind you how that state selected and nominated a holocaust-denying lgbtq-hating gun-loving anti-abortion extremist christian national zealot who happens to be a black man who hates the civil rights movement as their nominee for governor. >> for me there's no compromise on abortion. it makes no difference to me why or how that child ended up in that womb. >> there's no reason anybody anywhere in america should be telling any child about transgenderism, homosexuality, any of that fifth. yes, i called it filth. >> we are called -- here i'm getting ready to get in trouble. called to be led by men. >> the christian patriots of this nation will own this nation

and rule this nation. >> i got them ar-15s in case the government gets too big for its britches. because i'm going to fill the backside of them britches with some lead. >> and that's just the stuff he said in front of cameras. then there's the stuff he said on facebook like the civil rights movement led by dr. martin luther king jr. was, quote, that crap in the 1960s that was the communist rise movement. in 2018 he wrote, quote, this foolishness about hitler disarming millions of jews and then marshing them off to the concentration camp is a bunch of hogwash. in 2017 he claimed there is a reason the liberal media fills the airwaves with programs about the nazi and the 6 million jews they murdered. while donald trump publicly gushes over this guy calling him a good guy and martin luther king jr. on steroids -- that's a quote -- his campaign is clearly

worried about what this good guy could do to trump's chances in the tar heel state. "the carolina journal," another newspaper in the state said it spoke with sources that told them robinson is under pressure of staff and members of the trump campaign to withdraw from the governor's race due to the nature of the story. again, robinson said he isn't going anywhere, and the window for that to happen if it is going to happen is closing real soon. in fact, it has to happen in the next few hours since absentee ballots are set to go out tomorrow. but with the current republican majority north carolina supreme court, which already delayed delivery of ballots to remove the guy with the worm in his brain, robert f. kennedy jr., you know, the berry-eating dude, not to mention the right-wing appeals court and john roberts and his friends on the united states supreme court, we all know anything is possible. joining me now is mary ramsey, reporter for "the charlotte observer." eugene craig, chair of black

republicans for harris. and juanita tolliver, msnbc analyst and author of an amazing party, "a more perfect party." i'm dying to divert and talk about that. unfortunately, sadly, we got to talk about this guy. mary, i want to go to you first to give us sort of your latest reporting. what is the reaction of republicans in north carolina to these revelations and what are the chances that he is leaving this race? you are on mute. there we go. >> conservative outlets in the state including "the carolina journal" have reported there is internal pressure within the north carolina republican structure for lieutenant governor robinson to leave the race. however, he has said on cnn and on social media that he will stay in the race, and, as you mentioned, he has a very limited window for when he can make this decision. >> and in his camp, how are they explaining the convergence

between this mini soldier name he seemed to use everywhere including on facebook and, you know, sort of legitimate, normal stuff that he used and also on these posts, how are they explaining the convergences here? >> yes, so robinson's camp has largely been silent today, not responding to media requests. in his response, as you showed a part on cnn, he said he believes this could be related to artificial intelligence saying that there are lots of things that can be faked on the internet today and repeatedly saying that these comments were not made by him. >> okay. let's come to the table here. eugene, i'm going to start with you because, you know, there are -- >> there we are. >> there are two kind of black republicans. there are black republicans like you, i know you, i know michael steele. then there's the other type. >> oh, yeah. >> that are like this. i have encountered some people like this. you obviously know byron donalds who said life was better during jim crow. >> yes. >> and people who are willing to

say the most bananas, crazy thing. >> the wildest thing for clout. >> and not just for clout but clout among white conservatives. >> yes, absolutely. i will say this, right. mark robinson came to power, came to fame literally by saying the wildest things ever. he blew up based off a city council speech, what not, and conservatives took it and turned him into a folk lore hero. i think it is rich we have an adjudicated rapist that peeped into girls changing and what not, who hangs out with pro-nazis who deny the holocaust, who hang out with civil rights folks not just denying the civil rights and the legacy of king and malcome x, but doing whatever they can to dismantle the civil rights with project 2025. i will say this, mark, as a fellow black republican, i don't rock with you, i don't stand with you. i hope the republican jewish

coalition backs your democrat opponent. i would say this, do us all a favor and stay in the race and throw those 16 electoral votes to kamala harris and save us from donald trump. you will have done your country a service staying in the race. >> to be fair, juanita, i'm going to assume you agree -- >> i'm not mad at any of this. notice i didn't interrupt at any point. >> in 2006 donald trump said, if ivanka weren't my daughter perhaps i would be dating her. in 2017, alise awe machado was the winner and gained a massive amount of weight and he called her a fat big. in 2016 when accused of invading hillary clinton's space in the presidential debate, he said, believe me, the last space i want to invade is her space. he said the women he is accused of raping are the last who would

be his type. >> every bit of this tracks. i appreciate you for breaking it down and showing additional evidence, because this is stuff both of them have said for decades. look at those time stamps on some of the posts from mark robinson, 2008 and earlier, and donald trump has had this long history of doing the same. so, honestly, republicans can't say anything -- >> yeah. >> -- and sadly they probably agree with a lot of what he did say, the nazi sympathize components, the lgbtq things, at least what he says in public compared to how he behaves based on this reporting from cnn, it raises a lot of questions. but the lgbtq piece is probably what republicans are going to lean on when they attempt to point him out. >> madison cawthorn said he was down with m out. >> madison cawthorn said he was down wit being a part of a sex cult. it pushed him out.

>> it is crazy when you somewhere one 69 guy who pushes another 69 guy out of the way. this is where maga was in 2024. it is where it started the birth of the tea party in 2010. we have 47, 46 days to fight against this to make sure, hey, for once and for all we can push it out of our country. >> i don't think it is going anywhere because look at the split screen moment. today republicans are embroiled in a critical scandal that could sink where it is going in 2024. >> mary, i have to ask you this. i think it is a really good point eugene made. it is not an unknown quantity. he has been this wild the whole time in public life and clearly before where, you know, he has been called a 69 god. i think for our fans, you might want to get that, it is from them, not us.

he got elected lieutenant governor. so there's some part of this that the base of republicans in north carolina don't have a problem with. >> yes. so lieutenant governor robinson is the sitting lieutenant governor. he won a republican primary, beat two other candidates, relatively decidedly earlier this year. got about 65% of the vote. as you mentioned, there have been past scandals, his comments about the holocaust which he denied earlier this week when speaking to a group of charlotte area business leaders, said he is a friend of israel and does believe in the holocaust. there have been repeated ads from his opponent, democratic attorney general josh schtein about a dare that was owned by lieutenant governor robinson's wife cited multiple times by state officials. so it is certainly not the first time he has been the center of a controversy. >> by the way he said he wants to go back to the time women couldn't vote. >> right. >> he has said some people need to be killed. >> right. >> he said that in a church. in case there were republicans

trying to run from here, here is eric and don jr. bigging him up. >> thoughts of mark robinson? i like mark. good guy. a funny guy. not afraid to say what he is thinking which i think we need more of. >> well, look, we know them. we know them well. we know mark very well. amazing, amazing guy. mark is a wonderful person, a wonderful guy, a person i've gotten to know very well. and i think not only are we going to win the stay, he is going to win the state. >> how long is it going to take before he says, i didn't know him. >> 24nald trump loses, i never w the guy, never k was another mark that the north carolina republican party could have leaned on. mark walker was right there and could have led them into greatness. >> here is the question now. juanita, i think this is probably what is giving democrats heartburn. mark robinson is losing to his democratic opponent, josh stein,

which should make you feel decent about humanity. 42% is pretty high with his history. here is where kamala harris is polling in north carolina. it is a dead heat but she is up a bit. if he is pulled off the ballot, i don't have any faith in john roberts, if it is a lawsuit where democrats try to sue to keep him on the ballot. if it ends up in john roberts' hand we know how it will go. i want the republican to win. it won't matter to john roberts and the supreme court. how concerned are democrats he will be knocked off and somebody else like the other mark get on? >> i think they're very concerned. and democrats and republicans, i said off air they're both holding their breaths for very different reasons on the countdown to midnight. when you say it will take donald trump 24 hours, i'm like take your time because midnight is the time. i appreciate the north carolina board of elections posting that so the world and public is clear on the rules. now, the legal machinations we know come from the republican

party, i fully expect them to take democrats want him in this race because he is going to drag not only himself down but the rest of the republican ticket appearing on that ballot up and down the ticket. donald trump is looking to hold on to every electoral vote he possibly can, but kamala harris will absolutely benefit because, just like you recounted, all of the statements from eric trump, donald trump jr. and donald trump himself, that is something that kamala harris hq has been up on line. they're like the best friends. >> yes. >> here it is. this is what the republican party is. here is what they think about lgbtq people. here is what they think about women. this is who they are and they can't shake that statement. >> eric trump, by the way, keeps touting his wife is from north carolina. >> there you go. >> his wife lara, the one when she is not singing and auto tuning. >> just a really bad time. >> don't quit your daytime. >> we have to, eugene, i think it is important for us to note it is still 42% of people willing to vote, even before the porn stuff which is wild stuff. >> right. >> people are willing to vote for somebody who is a

republican, as vile as the things he said and as vile as the things trump said. the fact -- what does it say about the republican party and evangelicals at the core of that? >> i was going to say christian conservatives and evangelicals, the proffer they have made is this. tribalism over everything. our crew over everything. my affiliation over everything, and everything means their own values. it means morals. it means ethics. it means all of the things that they proclaim to love and believe in on sunday, monday through saturday is out the window. >> it is out the window. >> how long does it apply to a black man? >> see, that's -- >> that's my follow up question. >> you know what they might say? they might say, they're not like us. just to rap that up. mary ramsey, thank you. juanita will stick around and be with me later coming up. january 6th, 2025 could go two different ways depending on who has the speaker's gavel with republicans laying the ground work to overturn the results

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imagine, if you will, the date is january 6th, 2025. congress is certifying the 2024 presidential election results. now, given what happened last time around, who is the person you would want presiding over the house of representatives that day? is it this guy? >> house democrats are committed to protecting democracy, we're committed to free and fair elections, and we're committed to the peaceful transfer of

power that will begin on january 6th. >> or this guy? >> we believe -- all of us belief, i think all of us know intuitively that there was a lot amiss about this election day. the fact that all of these states with democrat leaders changed the rules in the fourth quarter of the game, you know, late this year and they decided to allow for all of these late mail-in battle and the allegations about these voting machines, some being rigged with a software by dominion, look, there's a lot of merit to that. when the president says the election is rigged, that's what he is talking about, that the fix was in. >> yeah, that's right. depending on how congressional elections pan out in november, there are two possible outcomes. we could see a new house speaker, democrat hakeem jefferies, or continue with republican speaker mike johnson, who, by the way, led house republicans in filing an am cuss

brief in 2020 asking the supreme court to overturn swing state results and disenfranchise millions of voters and who right now is leading the charge claiming undocumented immigrants will be voting en masse this year, even though there's no proof of that and it is 100% illegal for noncitizens to vote. but he's pretending otherwise just to preemptively sow doubt about election results. the question of who has the gavel on january 6th, 2025 is incredibly significant because, honestly, i don't think trump and his cronies are even trying to win a majority of votes in the election at this point. it seems their entire focus has shifted to just getting trump into the white house no matter what. to do that, he needs a republican majority in congress, which could explain why last night trump was campaigning in the solid blue state of new york where there are a handful of tightly contested races that could determine who controls the

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night and laying the foundation to delay certification of the election results before a single vote is cast. something so alarming that even the republican secretary of state, brad raffensperger, is calling it absurd. but there's also another factor at play here, and that is voter intimidation, which is how you might interpret trump's threats to go to springfield, ohio and aurora, colorado, in the next two weeks, places where people are living in fear because of his of jd vance's lies about haitians immigrants and where officials are saying please don't come, because they're already getting a head start with a town hall in springfield today. you would not believe who is hosting. that's next. that's next. de, what're you doi? i'm protecting my car. that's too much work. weathertech is so much easier... laser-measured floorliners up here, seat protector and cargoliner back there...

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i said this before, if you have the national stage and you are a national politician, please understand the words that you are saying have great weight in how they can negatively effect a community like springfield, ohio. >> that was springfield, ohio mayor rob rue on tuesday imploring national politicians to stop spreading lies about haitian immigrants in springfield. those pleas fell on deaf ears and now we have not one but three maga politicians

descending on the town. vivek ramaswamy, son of immigrants, is hosting a town hall tonight and donald trump and jd vance promised, or maybe i should say threatened, to bring their rabid followers to the small town. not only are they ignoring the pleas from fellow republicans but trump is turning up the blood libel by falsely insinuating the people he targeted for violence will target him. >> i'm going to springfield and i'm going to aurora. you may never see me again, but that's okay. i got to do what i got to do. whatever happened to trump? well, he never got out of springfield. >> let's take a second here and remember that the only people who have threatened his life are two white american men, both registered republicans. joining me now is journalist gary pierre pierre, founder and

publisher of "the haitian time." gary, let's talk about the level of fear in the community and how much would that be increased if donald trump and jd vance were to come to springfield? >> thank you for having me, joy. the community is just shocked, fearful. they just don't understand what is going on. they've been trying -- they've been a good thing for springfield. they've helped revitalize the town, and what you hear says the federal government and federal government refusing springfield the resources they need to help the community, the haitians who came in with their education, health care and other social services that people need. so that -- the lack of resources creates a bit of tension between some folks in the city and the

haitians. but other than that, until this situation, people were okay but now they are not okay. we just had to publish a mental health wellness checkup for people on how to cope with this in "the haitian times" because people are telling us, we're just overwhelmed. we don't understand this. we don't know what is happening, we can't explain what is happening to us. >> let me play for you jd vance continuing to lie about these migrants and insisting they're not in this country legally. here he is. >> the media loves to say that the haitian migrants, hundreds of thousands of them by the way, 20,000 in springfield but hundreds of thousands in the country here illegally. what they mean is kamala harris used two programs, mass parole and temporary protected status, she used to magic wands to wave a wand and say we're not going

to deport these people here. if kamala harris waves a wand illegally and says they're here legally, i'm still calling them illegal. >> he knows it is not true. he is a united states senator, there two years and a lawyer. for him to continue to lie that way continues to spread hate and fear against these people. >> that hate, that chaos, that trauma is what they want. people need to look at this play and realize that the trump/vance ticket has nothing else to offer so they default to the chum that they know their base feeds off of. i appreciate with vice president harris was speaking with the journalists earlier this week. she talked about how disruptive it is because they're saying these things at the expense of migrants. they are saying these things at the expense of children. >> yeah. >> who simply want to go to school safely. parents and families who simply have come to this country in escape of whatever trauma they were experiencing. so now republicans are putting an even bigger target on their back, but, again, they have nothing else of substance to

offer voters so this is their baseline. >> and just to note that the springfield mayor has now been granted emergency powers as haitian immigrants say they do fear for their safety under trump and vance's false claims. let me quickly play parents who talked to our shaq brewster earlier today about their fears. >> all of this activity with the threats and stuff, i mean it has a little bit of an impact on the kids. they're kind of scared. they want to go to school. not sure what's going to happen next. >> it is a very complex feeling to have, to not know if something is going to happen to your baby. but i still have to encourage that he goes to school to get an education so that he can know how to discuss and communicate his concerns instead of being the next adult that wants to send a bomb threat. >> and, gary, those were not even haitian migrants. this is obviously fear that's being spread across the community.

how did the vivek ramaswamy town hall impact folks and what do you know about what happened there to night? i think it might be still going on. >> yes, it is still going on as we speak. so i left there to come here to talk to you tonight. but it is really unnecessary. the mayor has said it and they've been saying it since saturday, we cannot handle any more of this because they just don't have the capacity. we have to cancel one of the town hall meetings ourselves last week, but they told us they could not only get -- they could not guarantee our security because they threatened to blow up the place where we were going to hold the town hall, the gathering. so reflective last week or so, but where am i? am i in the congo?

haiti? this is middle america, ohio, and this is happening. i just couldn't imagine not being able to gather peacefully anywhere in america, and so we have to really think deep and hard what this means in this moment in our country because i am an american by choice. i wasn't born here, and i have a special love for america, for what it has given me and for what i have given to america. and so to watch this is really just concerning. >> it has to be. thank you for saying that. that was beautifully said, gary. this is -- i mean, juanita, this is the story of this country. >> right. >> my parents came here and had that same experience that gary did. there's a reason that people are drawn here from around the world, and they often get here and find a different reality when it comes to racism and hate, and this community was building something great. they're building businesses, they're working, they're -- you

know, they're one of the highest employed percentage populations in the country, haitian americans. some of them left florida to go to ohio, and my question then i guess from a political standpoint -- you are a democratic strategist -- is are people being organized in this community, those who are eligible voters to respond to this? not just haitian americans. >> right. >> anyone who is disgusted by this has an opportunity to vote against their united states senator and donald trump. i wonder if you're detecting any organization for people to do that? >> yes, there's absolutely mobilizations on the ground, but were they ever targeted towards responding to this level of vitriol or level of hatred perpetuated by vivek ramaswamy, a son of immigrants. >> and who wants mass deportation, even though last time i heard about it his father is still not a citizen. >> it does raise the question of

the vitriol that is raised in these communities resulting in 30-plus threats across the community. it does say the organizing has to take the step up. remember, at the republican convention they were waving signs about mass deportation. trump has no idea how he will pull it off, but it does inflict trauma. >> gary pierre pierre, this country is lucky to have you. juanita tolliver, thank you. thank you both very much. coming up, president biden is proving republicans wrong, announcing a major milestone on the economy. more on that and how republicans continue to prioritize trump over their own constituents, next. constituents, next

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celebrate the progress of the u.s. economy and how far it has come since he took office. it comes a day after the federal reserve cut interest rates by half a percentage point, the first cut since 2020 and the largest in 16 years. biden was very clear that this was not a victory lap and that more work has to be done, but the man does deserve some credit given the state of the economy left to him by his predecessor and current republican presidential nominee, donald trump. inflation, which saw a post-covid high of over 9%, has reached a three-year low. prices are starting to come down for things like groceries and gasoline, and it is being done, as biden said, without ever having to enter a recession, which few people including economists thought could be done. so when the fed made its announcement, which will help all americans when it comes to things like credit cards, mortgages, student loans and car loans, you'd think that everyone including republicans would see it as good news.

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kamala harris was walking our picket lines while donald trump was crossing them. >> for us in the labor movement it is real simple. kamala harris is one of us. >> some of the largest workers unions representing millions of people across this country have endorsed vice president kamala harris and her prolabor policies. there is one notable exception, however, the teamsters. yesterday their executive board decided for the first time since 1996 not to endorse a

candidate for president. that decision did not sit well with some local chapters across the country which announced their own endorsements including in battleground states like michigan, nevada and wisconsin. joining me now is president of the teamsters local 237, which represents employees in government agencies in new york city and long island. thank you so much for being here. >> thank you for having me on. >> the national organization did not endorse. why did your organization endorse? >> well, when we looked at the polling, the majority of the members wanted us to endorse kamala harris and i said you know, we were all told if we want to make a local endorsement, we can. why? it was the right thing to do because we know what the biden- harris administration did for labor and i got a lot of calls

from my member saying we are proud that you did that. we were afraid that no one would stick up for kamala harris. >> let me go through it. the record on the two are very different. we know that president biden walked the picket line. we know the policy was about the chips act, bringing jobs. we see inflation down. we see a lot of positive policy outcomes. here is trump's record. he changed the rules to make it harder to qualify for overtime. he opposed legislation raising the minimum wage to $15 per hour. he repealed legislation protecting workers from payday loans. he give incentives for companies to move overseas and made it harder for workers to join a union. can you explain, given that, why your national organization would be ambivalent about endorsing one or the other? >> i can't explain that. it is inexplicable. there are individuals that may

not know all the facts. we can tell them and even if we tell them, look, there are people that we tell things to and i never grew up in an age like we are growing up in. the facts are in front of your face and yet people tell you you are not seeing what you are seeing. january 6, some people say it was not a riot. i know what happened. people are telling us it did not happen, so i mean i would never think that we live in an age where people say are you going to believe your lying eyes or me? so that is where we are and i believe some members did not understand the significance of an endorsement. there are possibly two supreme court nominees that could come before the next president. we know what the other three nominees did. there were so many things besides the president that are

attached to an endorsement. it is not just the individual, it is the policies. it is the appointments. it is the future. it could shape us for the next 50 years. i won't be around. it won't affect me, but i don't want anybody to say gregory floyd had the opportunity to do something and he stood silent. so when i come with conviction i know what i am making an endorsement about and i can explain my point. if i have everybody lined up against me, i will get in a room and i won't leave that room until a explain my point. maybe i change one mind, maybe i change to, but i'm going to explain my point. >> that is well said and everyone can hear from your accent that your a new yorker. donald trump is from queens. what do you make of the fact that at least in my experience the people who are the most opposed to him fundamentally our new yorkers? what is that about?

>> i will tell you what it is about. we know who he is. i grew up in the age of central park. the central park five. i knew what they went through and when it was proven that they were innocent, donald trump continued, to this day, to persecute them. he continued to persecute them even though they were found innocent and the evidence that they did not do it. when you know what happened in 1989 with these young men and they looked no different than i except i did not grow up in manhattan. i wasn't in central park. it could have been me if i was in the wrong place at the wrong time, so i understand who he is. when he talks about barack obama was not born here and birtherism, he is talking about me. anything he says i know he is talking about me and if i go

along with it i dishonor my past and everyone who came before me. so you tell me we are new yorkers and why we are opposed to him, because we know who he is. >>'s mistreatment of workers all happened in new york and he has bragged with elon musk. he laughed at the idea about elon musk being the best at firing people. it is amazing to me that any working person would be for him. it blows my mind. >> because it is not happening to them it is far and removed. people i never see. it's not my problem. i turned my back, until it becomes my problem and then they say why did you endorse this man? you know he wasn't for us and i said this is what you wanted us to do. sometimes you have to tell people what the right thing is. >> gregory floyd, it's been a pleasure. thank you. that is tonight's "reidout". "all in with chris hayes"