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killed.>> reporter: and now there's an active man hunt going on in birmingham to try to track down those suspects, they are hoping they can go through the surveillance video from the cameras in these local businesses to help find that vehicle and the suspects.>> extraordinary, thank you so much for that. the outlandish thing that donald trump said this past week to jewish voters, how it is playing on this voting block in the next hour. good day to all of you from msnbc in new york, welcome everybody, we are beginning with decision 2024, and with 44 days until the election, kamala harris leads donald trump, 49%, the poll also showing harris greening ground -- gaining ground,

hurricanes were pointed out on meet the press this morning. >> this is trump versus biden, and this is harris versus biden, harris still has an advantage on the economy. it used to be 35, look at this one, we talked about age being such a big issue, trump had a 29 . advantage over joe biden and the necessary mental and physical health, now harris is over trump.>> the economy is most important to voters, democrats say harris should do more to distinguish herself from president biden. >> everyone in the republican party say her supporters are trying to blame him for her problems, i love the president and i respect him that i would

have handled these tough issues in a different way, here's how i would lead, i think that would be incredibly powerful for her to say and i don't think it would turn off democrats. >> today, harris is in new york city for an event, her campaign announced saturday the acceptance for the debate on october 23rd. trump responded, he is not much interested in a rematch but democrats saying trump is backing out because he knows he lost the first one.>> he lost, and he knows it and he is afraid of being humiliated again, because we saw what donald trump represents. you watched that debate and the bigotry that he engaged in, the people of america, the people of georgia want somebody who is focused on them.>> we have reporters and analysts in place covering these developing story lines and we are going to start with emma barnett in

wilmington, north carolina. how likely is another debate to influence voters now that voting is already underway?>> that is hard to say, i will tell you that i spent a lot of time traveling all across the country talking to voters about how they feel about the selection and a lot of people have already made up their minds, finding an undecided voter is like finding a unicorn, we did a panel on debate night at nbc news and after the debate, while one was leaning towards harris, one was leaning towards trump, all three pulled out truly undecided. some think that is a good thing because she is still working on her name recognition among voters, whereas a lot of voters already have a sense of their feelings toward donald trump. take a listen to what trump said about whether or not he's going to participate in the debate.>> the problem with another debate is that it is

just too late, voting has already started, she had the chance to do it with fox, fox invited us and i waited and waited, and they turned it down. but, now she wants to do a debate before the election with cnn because she's losing. she has one debate, i've had two, it is too late to do another, it is too late, the voting is cast.>> reporter: as you heard, donald trump said he believes it is too late to debate because voting has already been cast but it is worth noting that in 2020 against joe biden, he did hold the debate on october 22nd with biden after early voting had started in some states. >> the fact is, it started in virginia, minnesota, south dakota, we have another 47, is this argument going to hold water much longer?>> reporter: it is hard to say because trump

supporters are loyalists but what i will point out is when i was talking to trump voters at the rally yesterday, they had mixed responses when asked whether or not he should debate. some really want to see him do another debate, others don't want to because they feel he was treated unfairly, that they felt like it was three versus one debate, and some people said it should be trump's decision and left it at that. thank you for sharing that with us. let's bring in my panel, the head of the vote save america along with political commentator, ashley oates, good to see all of you and i want to ask quickly about the chance for another debate and will we see one? do you want to see one?>> good afternoon and thank you for

having me, i would love to see another one, i thought the last one was great, i know we didn't get to talk about it last week because of breaking news but the last debate, vice president harris had the opportunity to teach the country more about herself and lay out the policies that republicans have said she didn't have. but, i'm curious, i actually don't know what donald trump is going to do, right now he's saying no and he's making excuses. but she really gets under his skin as we saw in the last debate so she might do that again and he might cave against the wishes of his campaign. >> ashley, do you want to see one? >> last week i would have said there is no upside for harris to debate again because she was the clear winner but i think now with the recent polling from nbc and seeing fundraising numbers coming in, she fund raised more than $41 million in the 24 hours following the debate compared to trump. so at this point, she has outraised him by four times as much so it is very clear that

he wasn't getting that much of a fundraising bout from that debate, which is probably why he's afraid and his donors are afraid, if he gets on the stage again, and she has closed the gap with undecided voters which is exactly what she needed to do, her favorability is up by 16 points following that debate as well. i think this election, the democrats are on offense and republicans are on defense, this is why he is scared, so i would love to see another one and i think the numbers are trending in the democrats direction should she choose to debate again, which she already has and he scared to.>> okay, lastly, christina. >> i absolutely want another debate, most importantly the american people deserve another debate, you saw two totally contrasting visions for our country. harris had a clear vision and outline about how she was going to strengthen the economy, secure the rights to abortion access for the women like me

that live in a state where our rights have been rolled back by 50 years, and donald trump who ran for president three times and couldn't even talk about his real policies, that he had a concept of a plan and how to deal with making healthcare more affordable. i need, just chaos on one side and clear command on the other, we want another debate. i don't think we are going to get one because trump is scared.>> that said, we have 71% of voters who say their minds are made up. is that less than you expected by now? is there enough to say that harris has a clear lead?>> i'm actually surprised at that number, i think it is kind of low given how polarized our country is. what i will say is i think it really demonstrates that vice president harris has an opportunity to grow more. we have seen donald trump hit

his ceiling as these results have come out but as the vice president has been able to introduce herself, her policies, people are taking to her. to me that just shows that maybe a little bit of that polarization is loosening up enough because people are really concerned about someone like donald trump going back into the white house. and one thing i had for the people watching, if you really care, it shows that everyday matters, the vice president got into this race towards the end of july and we have seen a tremendous amount of gains from her overt president biden who was at the top of the ticket before and i think that the straits that every single day, every moment matters. if anyone is interested in joining us and making sure that she runs in november, i would encourage you to go to vote at save america.com and help us out. >> ashley, in january trump lead biden by 22 points on the economy, he led by 35 points on

securing the border, now it is 21. is the messaging from harris working and how does she tighten these margins?>> i think it is working and i think her team strategically knows that they need to position her as a leader when it comes to the economy. her biggest challenge would be distancing herself from the biden administration, so i think that there is a bit of a pathway forward for her by talking to middle-class working voters which is exactly where biden had some strong support in 2020 but you are seeing a lot in the polling showing that over 60% of americans are feeling that pinch, whether it is the inflation or wallets tightening as we are facing economic issues. that is her biggest challenge and how she definitely will handle that moving forward, i think we will see in the coming days with her advertising as well as more conversations that she has with voters but one

thing i will say on the undecided point, i did see in instagram video of tim walz on the campaign trail talking to undecided voters which is so incredibly smart and i love that this campaign is doing it and they are taking this seriously and they are showing that even though they are closing the gap, there is still work to be done, especially when it comes to the economy and young voters and young families. >> which i want to pick up on right now with you, because the biggest change is among young voters, they have been essentially split between biden and trump, now they back harris by 23 points. here's the question, will these young voters turn out, what do you think?>> i think young people are absolutely going to turn out this election, from being on the ground in michigan and pennsylvania the last few weeks, and other key states, there is so much energy and

this is partially what has the trump campaign so nervous, young people turned out in the highest number in american history in 2020 helping to elect biden and harris, and in 2022 when everyone said it was going to be a red wave across the country, young women turned out in such high numbers for democrats that it canceled out the republican vote, this is the largest and most diverse population and the vast majority of them have a totally different vision for the country than the one that trump offers. he is pointing to biden for being the out of touch, older candidate, now he has become that candidate for the younger people. there is a lot more ground that can be made up and harris is the right candidate to do that.>> stay with me because we are going to talk about a nightmare scenario for november that starts in nebraska and ends in the house, the road to 269, and we are back in 90 seconds. 90 seconds. safari? hot air balloon ride? swim with elephants?

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>> this is a healthcare crisis and donald trump is the architect of this crisis, he is proud that women are dying? proud? that doctors and nurses could be thrown in prison for administering care?>> let's bring back my panel, the death of amber thurman is highlighting the issue of abortion bands especially when it comes to that very gray area of exceptions. is that an important aspect to focus on for voters, just referencing the nbc poll it came in fifth place of all the top issues.>> this is going to remain to be an important issue for voters, i know that you have this up on the screen where abortion has ranked fifth but we've had multiple elections since roe was

overturned, where voters said this is important to them. this we have seen as an issue that brings voters out and pushes them to make decisive decisions in the voting booth. i think having these really pointed tragic stories that have come out in the past week, to demonstrate the real consequences of banning abortion around the country are going to be just another reminder for voters that this is something that is very important and can affect them and their family in their everyday lives. >> ashley, only 6% of voters said that abortion was the most a an issue, that is unchanged from april but will that disproportionately drive turnout, and lead democrats to over perform as we have seen in the past couple of years, or do you think it is potentially fading it from the front of mines?>> i think this is the biggest issue in this election for a couple of reasons, this is the first presidential election since roe was

overturned, so this is a referendum on that and i think voters will remember that at the voting booth and again, the point that she just made, of course the economy is important and it is important in so many ways but so is abortion and healthcare access. and for women like myself and for my daughter, this is something that i do have grave concerns about if republicans remain in control. and flip-flopping on the issue is probably the most concerning because there is no clear pathway forward but what we do see are women dying as a result of not having access to care. so i think again, this is going to be a big issue by november, so we will see a big shift in the polls, or at last, after people have voted, this is going to be in the top three issues on election day. >> interesting. christina, harris leads by 21

points with women, how important is that margin difference?>> we know that in some of the young people, latinos, african american, this is a real advantage that harris has and of course one of those driving issues is abortion. people like to say elections matter and some people will say i don't really notice the difference when who is in charge but ask women in my state or ask the family members of april or her son who will never be able to raised by his mother and left when he was six years old, something that was totally preventable. these elections are life and death circumstances for people. and i also think there is polling we have seen with young women and young men, and in the last election, polling showed that two out of three young women said abortion was one of their top issues in the past election and we didn't see that with young men. but we are starting to see the young men saying abortion is a very important issue for them.

but they are seeing the consequences of having abortion access taken away from a third of women across the country. >> i'm curious, are you seeing in that senate race, does colin allred have a legit chance of beating ted cruz? >> ted cruz is probably the most unpopular senator, almost wholly disliked by the people of texas and allred is making huge inroads and republicans are attacking latino voters, young voters come a civil rights organizations, counties that are doing basic registration because they are

terrified that if people turnout in this state, they cannot win because they have long held power with minority rule instead of majority rule and they would like to keep it that way, they are trying every which way possible to make sure people don't turnout because they know they will turn out for colin allred. >> does this speak to a larger strategy to broaden the campaign field and do you sense this is working quest mike >> absolutely, i'm from a pretty small town -- can you hear me? sorry.>> we can hear you okay. >> great, sorry about that. i'm from a small town, creekmore, north carolina and we didn't even have sidewalks when i was growing up and those are the kinds of towns that don't often see presidential candidates come through so this bus tour will be able to raise the issue of abortion but is also going to give a lot of

voters who never see either candidate the opportunity to hear directly from the campaign and feel like their vote is actually being worked for and not just taken for granted, and states around this country, there's a lot of states that will come down to really small margins and those states like pennsylvania and north carolina , it is going to come down to what happens in the rural parts of the state, big cities will drive a lot of turnout but even if you don't win the rural parts, being able to drive down the margins in those areas will make a difference. so i think it does speak to a larger strategy of trying to reach more people and not relying on a certain group of voters or taking any other votes for granted. >> okay, that nightmare scenario i mentioned, the question will go to you, ashley, nebraska is one of two states that doesn't have a winner take all system, nebraska has one electoral vote that typically goes democratic, republicans want to change that, meaning all of the electoral votes would go to

trump and that creates this possible scenario of 269-269 tie so the election would be getting trump the victory. how much is this a real concern for democrats? are people talking about this? >> i'm not sure it is talked about as much as it should be which is the fact that there is this ground game that is going on behind the scenes in the republican party which is trying to scheme ways to potentially rig to win this election, that is going to thwart the voice of the people if kamala harris wins the popular vote and doesn't make the electoral college, we have seen this play out before and i think it will set up a very scary scenario that this is something republicans are considering and i think it is smart to have democrats go out and talk about the threats to democracy that republicans pose

and this is one of those threats to democracy, they are willing to stop at nothing to support the voice of the people. but, that is my two cents on this, i think it should be discussed a lot more than it is.>> in fact, for all three of you, thank you so much, we will see you again. oh, the places she will go, where vice president harris will pop up next. up next

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>> new fears among jewish voters that they will be blamed if donald trump leads in november, the former president sought to portray himself as more supportive of israel than kamala harris, trump however admonished jewish americans who support harris saying they will only vote for her because of democrats hold on them and promised that a lot of bad things will happen if he loses.>> i did all of these things, and i got 29%, think of it, so i wasn't treated right. it's only because of the democrat hold or curse on you, you can't let this happen, 40% is not acceptable. in my opinion, the jewish people would have a lot to do with a loss if i'm at 40%. >> joining me now, national politico correspondent and atlantic staff writer, meredith

, we will start with you on this, during these back to back washington event on anti- semitism, trump was reportedly trying to move jewish voters but what we heard sounded like he was whining. he insulted jewish leaders and engaged in anti-semitic tropes. how did the audience react to that?>> the first event i was at, coming from politico, the audience was very receptive to trump, he received multiple standing ovation, this was a group of people who have long been allies or donors of the former president, some of the people in the room included members of congress, senators and congressmen, and some of his biggest jewish supporters including miriam adelson which is backing one of the biggest packs pushing trump in the 2024 election and some jewish conservative group leaders, too. his remarks were panned

afterwards by the harris campaign and by jewish organizations for leaning into anti-semitic tropes, but some of the jewish republicans and conservatives that i talked to at the event said that they really feel like trump is making inroads with some jewish voters and trump himself has been frustrated that he doesn't have more support. he has expressed that publicly and privately. and his campaign is tracking some numbers with him and jewish voters and some of these battleground states where the election could be really tight, and trump said, at these events, that he feels that if he loses this election, that jewish voters could be in blame, to blame for that. and i think that is because he has seen these numbers were

he's tracking well with them, but it came across as a threat in some ways to jewish voters.>> mark, how do you believe trump thinks this scolding approach to jewish voters could help them? what is your take on this? >> i have no idea, it looks very free associative, blaming somebody just seems like your basic x-ray into his brain or something. in the real world, if you would go out and do a poll of jewish voters, i would guess, there is not a single person saying i feel threatened, and therefore if i voted for donald trump i would be safe, or something of this order. i don't think this is part of any effort to make inroads with jewish voters, and if it is, i think it is not going to be very effective. it is another window into how he views the world which is very simplistic, it is not a considered policy approach to this, and frankly i don't quite

know what impact if any it would have, i don't imagine it would have much. >> for we move on, there is not one person that you spoke to at that event of his supporters who said i'm comfortable with what he just said? >> not one of the people that i talked to. it was organized by the campaign, it was a small event.>> okay, mark, you have written extensively about trump, and this week, nikki haley's iowa campaign through her support behind kamala harris. how significant is this to respect to her supporters overall? >> i don't think there are any nikki haley supporters out there that are looking to see what this person is going to do, but i think this is a significant voting block, i think there are republicans out

there, clearly the harris campaign is going after them because they exist and you can say this doesn't speak for any republicans, well, yes she does because there are tens of millions and you know nikki haley voters are a subset of this if you look to the more recent past. there's tens of millions of voters out there, still loading who voted for george w. bush and many of them voted for nikki haley in the primaries or wanted to so this is a large group and i can't imagine donald trump is doing much to win them over these days. >> meredith, nikki haley suggested she would campaign for donald trump, is there any move from the trump camp to make that happen?>> we saw that her name was used for a fundraising plea from the campaign recently, but nikki haley hasn't been on the trail with him, she said that she had offered her support. as mark was saying, there are a lot of these disaffected republican voters who the harris campaign has tried to

make inroads with, they have done outreach to, they have appeared at the dnc, and it is surprising that the trump campaign hasn't done more to use nikki haley and sort of the section of the republican party that she stands for.>> mark, do you think nikki haley on the campaign trail would make an impact? >> absolutely, i was at a tim walz rally yesterday, i talked to about half a dozen people who have been republicans in the past, as recently as 2016 who have voted for trump before. they are out there, and sure, nikki haley, if deployed thoughtfully, or at all, would make a serious difference because a lot of people voted for her, but they don't seem to have much interest in using her in any way, shape, or form.>> let's go from there, meredith, to the new nbc news poll which

shows harris leading trump, harris also leads by nine points as the best candidate representing change, something that both have been trying to claim. what does that number alone tell you question mark are the disengaged voters trying to pay attention and remember the chaos of the trump presidency now? >> i think you always see this in elections, undecided voters, we are starting to have early voting so people are starting to pay attention a little bit more. but, when we are looking at these numbers, one of the thing that both camps are trying to do is turn out their base of supporters and have this enthusiasm that is going to drive people to show up on the polls by rain or shine in november. and one of the things that has to be done is that harris might have a little bit more enthusiasm among some of her supporters that could prove to be really effective when people

are deciding if they are going to actually show up or not. but, i do think we have seen harris ahead in these battleground state polls, nationally. but overall, things continue to be very tight.>> mark, what is your take on another debate mark is it too risky for trump to have another poor performance so close to election day? is there a possibility he could moderate his tone on the debate stage to reach independent voters?>> well, the risk might be more for harris just because she's winning, so she has more to lose, although what we saw from the last debate, it is clearly a format that suits her and even after six or seven weeks, he seems to have no idea how to engage with her or about her, so i think he is coming at this from a position of seemingly weakness but i would think in some ways, between his ego and the deficit he showed

the last debate, he should want to take another shot at this. but if harris performs anywhere near as low as she did this last time, i can't see why that would be an asset for her, frankly she is the bigger entity here, and if she can perform well, i think it's only going to solidify the small lead is right now. >> meredith, harris is making headlines about the comment she made during a town hall with oprah winfrey where she said she is a gun owner and she would shoot anybody that tried to break into her home. did that surprise you question mark do these comments make you think she is more appealing to moderates and gun owners?>> what she is trying to do is maybe mollify or soothe some of the concerns that voters might have about harris and gun rights, gun ownership, the

second amendment, especially after some of the positions she has held in the past, i didn't think it was super surprising that a former prosecutor did have a gun, but i think it was more about trying to calm some fears people have that she might take away their guns. >> good point, okay, good to see you both, thank you. the financial impact of an important decision made this week. this week l syndro lower back pain, and shortness of breath, i thought that's what getting older felt like. thank goodness... ...i called my cardiologist. i have attr-cm, a rare but serious disease... ...and getting diagnosed early... ...made a difference. if you have any of these warning signs, don't wait, ask your cardiologist about attr-cm today. (♪♪) sometimes jonah wrestles with falling asleep... ...so he takes zzzquil. the world's #1 sleep aid brand. and wakes up feeling like himself.

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>> today, new polling from nbc news highlights the issue americans care about most heading into the final stretch of the presidential race, americans are focused on inflation, the cost of living and the job market. it comes as the federal reserve cut interest rates for the first time since 2020 and what jerome powell described as a weak calibration for the economy. joining me to break this down, courtney brown, welcome, this

cut is done by half a point, larger than what some expected, what is the fed ultimate target for rate cuts and when will americans start to feel the positive effects? >> if you are looking to borrow money to buy a home for instance, you might have already started to feel the relief, the way that mortgage rates are priced, and they are forward looking, so the markets have moved in anticipation of the said making this cut and on the hopes that the fed is probably going to cut rates further, and we got that confirmation last week, the said cut rates by half a percentage point and indicated that it might cut three more times before the end of the year, so that is a pretty significant relief for consumers who are looking to buy a house or want to see their credit card bill go down a little bit more, or looking to borrow to buy a car.>> from

some of your reporting, you point out that just because the fed doesn't expect to find itself in emergency mode, doesn't mean it can't happen, what are the warning signs this rate cut could go wrong? >> there's two things that could go wrong, the first is that inflation doesn't disappear as quickly or as much as they hoped, we have come a long way, the consumer price index peaked at 9% of june of 2022, we are all the way back to a little over 2% but we are not at 2%. we are not at that magic number, so i think one of the members of the fed's board of governors actually descended and she said i don't think we should cut rates by half a percentage point, i think we should do a smaller quarter percentage point because i'm not convinced the crisis is totally over. the second way is we see unemployment rates move up this year, we started the year around 3.5% and we are at 4.2% as of august.

so, we have been rising on the unemployment rate, the labor market has been softening, the hiring is not booming as it was, and the fed's goal was to keep the economy solid. but, there is a chance that the fed is already too late, the unemployment rate historically when it starts rising, it keeps rising. >> but let's assume everything goes well after the first rate cut, how can vice president harris capitalize on the success in her messaging to voters and doesn't help shore up president biden's legacy since perceptions of the economy have been a weakness in his term. >> i think we have a little preview this week, president biden spoke before the economic club of washington, d.c. and the first thing he said was that the fed lowered interest rates and this was an important turning point in our economy, interest rates went up rapidly, the highest in over two

decades, to try to tamper down inflation. and the rate cut is a signal that they feel that inflation is almost over, the war on inflation is almost over so i think the way that president biden try to frame it was that this is all about the biden administration's intention to bring prices down for consumers. obviously the biden administration doesn't have control over the federal reserve, but that doesn't mean that the president or the vice president can't benefit from what the fed did this week. >> and we benefited from chatting with you, courtney brown, thank you so much. new rocket attacks inside israel, what is being done to bring down the temperature, next. temperature, next daddy, hi! subject 3: i missed you. my daughter is being treated for leukemia. subject 2: mom, mom, mom, mom. subject 3: i hope that she lives a long, great, happy life and that she will never forget how mom and daddy love her. st. jude, this is what's keeping my baby girl alive.

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week that killed dozens including a senior hezbollah commander. joining me is the senior intelligence officer, mark, we have been hearing concerns of a war breaking out since hezbollah and israel began trading strikes, that began almost a year ago, now for this rare strike on saturday and hezbollah launching more than 100 rockets, deeper into northern israel territory. is this going to be the week from which all out war begins as we look back?>> well, not yet, so israel is following a policy of what i call escalate to de-escalate, they have announced this is exactly what they are trying to do, they are trying to make it as difficult as possible for them to continue those attacks in the north where the israelis cannot go back home. so they have been under an extraordinary amount of

operations in the past couple of days, as well as compromised security, and they killed the head of the special forces, in my view, as a former intelligence officer, israeli intelligence has gotten into their brain here, they are trying to make it so uncomfortable for hezbollah to continue but of course the adversary always gets a vote and remains to be seen what hezbollah is going to do. >> the biden administration officials do not believe that the gaza cease-fire or a hostage release deal is going to come by the end of his term, adding that the only way to end the war is to simmer down conflict between israel and hezbollah, how has the escalation implicated negotiations, mark? >> the potential peace deal cease-fire the hostages deal with is kind of dead to begin with, but in reality, yes, of

course neither of them seem interested in the deal, so all the focus is on the north and the sad part, 50 hostages remain alive, i cannot remain -- imagine the pain, so nothing optimistic on that front whatsoever. >> the timing of the pagers, and those explosive devices that went off, someone suggest it was ill-timed, maybe even a mistake, that it was a process that went off too soon, what are your thoughts on that? i saw those reports as well, there was a potential compromise, and the quote, you have to use it or lose it, i think this was tactical and strategic, again part of the policy of escalating to de- escalate and the fact is, this is the most impressive intelligence operative i have ever seen. it basically took what we usually think of as high-value targets rights, and they did

this on an incredible scale, in which 1000 operatives and support and logistics personnel were removed from the battlefield and causes incredible chaos, they don't know where to look, they don't know if they can trust anyone. i think it is a part of that strategy and the question is, will that strategy work? what will they do?>> that is the big question that remains to be seen. we will be talking to you a lot more, my friend, thank you so much for your time. that is going to do it for me, we will be back next sunday. nex.