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on thu this new hour, tkofpb donald trump is showing the world what a losing campaign really looks like. >> and losing workers but there may be a way to get them back. >> his name may be on the ballot, but new developments tonight after disturbing allegations of racism and sexual harassment i'm charles coleman jr. and we've got a lot to talk about. let's do it. to talk about. let's do it. good evening, we are 44 days out from the presidential
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election and vice president kamala harris is already ready for round two. after what was let's face it a pretty strong victory over donald trump at the last debate, she has accepted an invite from cnn to do a second one on october 23rd. saying quote, i hope donald trump will join me, quote. trump however is running away from her challenge. >> she's done one debate, i've done two. it's too late to do another. i would love to in many ways, but it's too late. the voters are cast, the voters are out there. >> two is bigger than one and, okay. so, this comes as new polling from nbc news shows that harris is now leading trump 49-44% nationally. however harris favorability has
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jumped to 48%. just a few short months trump has lost the momentum he had when he was running against biden. trump seems intent on sabotaging his own campaign. i can't make this up. on friday, the former president sent out a statement on his social media site. that he will protect women. and if he wins quote you will no longer be thinking about abortion. this is a statement he hammered home yesterday. to be clear this is just his latest failed attempt. there was a tirade i hate careless post. and then this. >> and they put her in and she somehow a woman, somehow he's doing better than he did. >> somehow. a woman. a whole woman.
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can you believe it. a woman. when he's not burning bridges with women he's busy scolding jewish voters, roll it. >> in my opinion, the jewish people would have, a lot to do with a loss. >> if i don't win this election and the jewish people would really have a lot to do with that if that happens. >> even when we put the finger pointing and the threatening promises aside. trump this week made his cognitive decline even more obvious. here we go. >> we have bogrum in alaska. >> okay. now i'm not anyone's geography buff. but bogrum is in afghanistan not alaska, then there's this. >> and the audience was absolutely. they went crazy. >> may i remind you that despite how trump remembers it,
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there actually was, there wasn't an audience at the debate. no audience. and by the end of the week, he was just struggling to get a sentence out at a rally that was held here in new york. again, roll em'. >> they're going spent $3 million on migrants. bigger than russia. she pledged to abolish. >> she wants to abolish anyone who's worked hard. >> that was in nassau county. a rally in new york isn't that a deep blew state. it's true. instead of trying to win battleground states he's spending the little time he has left in a state he actually has no chance of winning. this of course is all going down as trump and his running mate j.d. vance are doubling down on their racist and desperate lies about haitian immigrants in springfield, ohio. it's almost as if trump wants to lose the election. as the atlantic, rarely if ever
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has a campaign collapsed into utter chaos as trump-vance has. the stink of impending defeat fills the air and so much of it would be self-inflected. let's bring in jason selvick a comedian and host of the good liers. and the good professor greer. and author of the book black ethnics, race, immigration and the pursuit of the american dream. jason, you were at the north carolina rally. >> yes. >> you've been covering him for a while. what is going on with 45? >> we've been to a lot of rallies. i've been to two this week. excuse me if my brain seems like it's about to explode. but i am starting to wondering watching trump in the last few. is he trying to win an election or is he trying to griff off
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his supporters. because he just talked about the $100 silver coins. >> this after the sneakers, the crypto, the bibles. whatever you can make he's selling. >> he's going to relaunch trump university at the end of october. he's like i have to get this out. i don't understand what trump is doing. because if i was donald trump, and i got the, just destroyed at the debate which we saw it. everyone agrees. lyndsey gram agrees. donald trump lost that debate. i would want to go out and debate again. and try and prove to the voters that maybe i'm the guy that you want to elect. because now he's losing in a lot of polls. and harris has all the momentum. but i think the problem is, he knows he lost, he knows she got under his skin. she called his rallies boring. said people were leaving. i've been to a lot of people. they are boring. we have actually told that to donald trump ourselves. people do leave the rallies early that is true.
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but i think donald trump is afraid to do it because he knows if he does it again, he's going to get destroyed again. he's going the lose again. >> cristina, speaking of what he knows, we've now just seen donald trump for the first time he was asked earlier if he will run again in 2028. he responded by no, i don't think so. i think that would be it. i don't see that at all. this seems to be the first sort of inclination that, he publicly is acknowledging that he is vulnerable and might lose in november. do you think that this is meaningless or rather how significant is this seeming acknowledge of his campaign going down in flames? >> right, we're dealing with a 78-year-old man as jason just laid out did not do well in the debate. but don't forget charles, he did not think he was going to win in 2016. he was just as shocked as the vast majority of americans. this was all part of a larger
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griff where he was going to lose and then sell sneakers, or tickets. this is just another feeling that he's going to lose. what we have to remember is there's several americans that will never be able to vote for a woman. there are certain americans that will never be able to vote for a person of color. these swing states are within a margin of error. we have to remember and take very seriously that although democrats consistently have won the popular vote time and time again in recent elections it's the electoral college that platters and right now they're neck and neck. and there are far too many americans that are willing to subscribe to the zenophobia of donald trump and his supporters and are willing to pull the lever for him because they can't seem to pull the lever for a brilliant woman of color
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at the top of the ticket. >> as trump said at the top of the hour, a woman, a woman. donald trump had a pretty decent debate back in the summertime. >> compared to joe biden. >> against an old guy who he sort of beat up on in front of everyone. and he was riding high for several weeks until that guy dropped out. and now we have vice president kamala harris in the race. and now the tables have turned where donald trump was the old guy who got beat up on in a debate because he was outclassed, outsmarted by vice president kamala harris and he's the one who's running. what do you make of that? >> i don't know, it's so interesting how things change in trump's world. how the excuses work for different things on different days. but part of me is just like, is he just old and tired and he just doesn't think he can do this and he just wants this to be over and is like i won't run again. who knows what will happen in november when he denies
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election results. the election is so clearly away from donald trump now. i think part of that is he picked j.d. vance after the debate. after the first assassination attempt. he picked j.d. vance. yeah he's weird, he's awkward. he makes people uncomfortable that's all a given. he's also not seasoned. he's inexperienced. he's a first term senator he does not have the experience to pick up donald trump's messes. now when donald trump is making a mess. he's not cleaning it up, making it better. he's making it worse. there's lines and lines of merchandise on tables. there's no j.d. vance shirts. there's no jd vance hats. there's no vance dance on tiktok which is just him staring at the camera and
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making it very awkward. but he didn't motivate the base like he was supposed to do. >> you had one job, j. d. one, one job. cristina i want to go with you. we talked lightly at the notion that donald trump has made some comments about trump. he has made some comments about women. do you think that's going to change this cycle. what is the mentality of women who continue to support him. >> we have to remember the scholarship of jane john my colleague, has written a brilliant piece of white women hiding in plain sight. we know that white women vote for the republican party candidate. they've voted for the
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republican party candidate. if white women follow the pattern they always have they will vote for donald trump. the difference this time is abortion is on the ballot. in not so many ways, on the ballot and on the minds of so many voters. that is an economic issue. not just for women but women and their sons and families at large. if abortion and democrats are articulate the women's right to chose. the economic ramifications of forcing people to be ready for. but it's white women who have never been able to move forward
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with the democratic party. so that is actually the big question that we'll see on november 5th. >> the good professor taking us to school on a sunday night. cristina and jason, stick around for me. we have more to talk about. for a year fears of a wider conflict in the middle east have loomed large and tonight, those fears are nearing reality as israel and hezbollah exchange heavy fire across the lebanon border. the united nations special coordinator for lebanon warns the reasons quote, on the brink of an imminent catastrophe. nbcs hala garani has more. >> reporter: there's been more border attacks between israel and hezbollah. one of the most violent days in the last 24 hours. the israeli military says that hezbollah has launched some 160 rockets, drones and missiles into northern israel. hitting more since at any point
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of october 7. and israel is hitting lebanon ultimately allow residents displaced from the north of israel to return home. some of those hezbollah rockets hit a suburban neighborhood north. the state department is telling u.s. citizens to leave lebanon because it's become very dangerous to live there. to avoid those border areas in this southern part of lebanon. meanwhile hezbollah is saying it will not back down. the secretary deputy general is saying threats won't stop us and we don't fear the most dangerous possibility. this while the israeli prime minister is saying that the idf will continue its operations until it reaches its aim. this of course coming after the
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pager and walkie talkie attacks that are widely attributed to israel as well as that israeli strike in a densely populated part of southern beirut killing several high level hezbollah commanders. the lebanese health ministry saying the death toll from that beirut attack has risen to 45. the u.s. president, president biden saying that he's concerned with those rising tensions and that the u.s. is doing everything it can to avoid a wider war in the region. >> that was nbcs hala gorani thank you. after the break, democrats no longer have the hold that they once did on working class voters. but why is that and how do democrats win them back. that and more coming up after
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for the vice president's endorsement but it has not. here's the thing, democrats have actually been losing working class voters for years. and in recent years republicans have made end roads pushing them closer toward trump. but a new report by the working families party is offering a play book to win them back. the key, stop viewing this diverse group which makes up 63% of registered voters as a monolith of white, noncollege educated trade workers. because the reality is within that massive group there are many ideological differences something that has really been explored. my friend maurice mitchell, the group that authored the report. and abel barret, the president
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of the peeu. you are the guys that put together the report. what was the most surprising finding that you had in terms of insights that you learned and that democrats should take away from this. >> sure. well there's so much and again it's really good to be here with my sister april. and i would just like to add that my mom is a very proud retired 1199 acu member. and that really speaks to workers like my mom. that are often overlooked when you talk about the working class. often time the working class is basically almost reduced to white noncollege voters. right. but what we know is the working class is very diverse. very ideologically diverse. very ethnically diverse. they actually believe that fundamentally our economy has been rigged against them and that government could do
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something in order to unrig it. and they overwhelming support like a jobs guarantee. single parent health care. rent controls, they believe that workers fundamentally do not get the pay they deserve or the benefits they deserve. which should hearten labor unions like aclu and democrats who we believe could tell a story, a story about who we're fighting for. >> able, you continue to make history as the first black woman elected as the head of the sciu. your organization announced its support for harris. literally the day after she announced her candidacy and then you gave an arousing speech at the dnc. i'm going to play a bit of that for a moment. >> vice president harris joined fast food workers on the picket line and she walked a day in the shoes of a home care worker.
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she shares our vision for a modern day labor movement. a movement that meets the needs of workers in the 21st century. >> one of my questions is in light of what we are hearing from working people in general, what was it that made you decide to endorse vice president harris before even hearing her platform around what she intended to do for working class americans. >> well first of all let me say, good evening and thanks so much for having me. we at, it was a no brainer for our union to endorse the vice president. because she's not new to us. i served as president of the long term care workers union in california during the time that vice president harris was a senator. and so, our members know her well. as i spoke about at the convention, she walked a day in the shoes of a home care worker in alameda county. she's walked a day of a
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security officer in detroit michigan. we know who she is. she has always been all in for our members. so we are always going to be all in for her. and we're proud to cast our, to endorse the candidate that we know is poised to stand on the side of working people like she has her entire career. like walking the picket line with fast food workers. like going down to the mexican border to see what she can do to lend a hand for families that have been detained there. like taking on big banks on the side of working families. to protect them from predatory lending. those are the things that working families in this country care about and those are the things that she's always championed. >> maurice, the last time we had an opportunity to talk right here on the show, you all had just announced your endorsement of vice president kamala harris. now and it was also before a platform had been released. now with your findings in the
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report. how do you reconcile that. do you think that maybe your organization. the working families party might have jumped up there a little too early or do you still feel comfortable with that decision? >> absolutely not. the idea that we jumped too early. i want to explain why. we remember the trump years. trump's main accomplishment is max tax cuts for the wealthy. when you look at project 2025 and everything, we could try to cobble together to figure out what he wants to do in trump number two. he wants to cut social security, he wants to cut medicare, he wants to cut the department of education. cut cut cut in order to fund another huge tax cut for corporations and the wealthy. then by contrast, what we've heard from vice president harris, investments in universal child care. investments in lower rent.
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rent control, that's on the top of working people across race, across ideology. these are concrete policies these aren't just concepts of policies these are actually concrete policies for working people. i want to make it clear. the reason we endorse is there's no question for us for example in a harris-walz administration. our ability to potentially pass something like the proact which will support the ability for workers to organize. there's no chance for that under a trump administration. when you look at project 2025, all the anti worker, anti union legislation that they want to pass, the proboss and procorporate. in less than 45 days we know what the mission is and then we know the work that we need to do to advocate to make it happen. >> i have time for one more question. what does accountability look like for the aciu if we are to
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see a harris-walz ticket. >> accountability to continue to work with harris. the democrats couldn't quite cobble together. we were one vote short. we know that kamala harris has always stood on the side of care givers, child care workers. she pwhraoás that believes we need family leave in this country. >> maurice mitchell and april verete. thank you both. >> thank you. trump says women will not be thinking about abortion rights by election day. what are you talking about, bro.
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president, he hand selected three members of the supreme court. with the intention they would overturn the protections of rowev. wade and as he intended they did. and now more than 20 states have trump abortion bans. extremists that have passed laws that criminalize health care providers, doctors and nurses and punish women. that was vice president harris putting trump on his heels again. when it comes to his atrocious record on abortion. while both donald trump and kamala harris have been challenged on some shifting policies, the expert is the -- the expresident has been gaslighting us. he's the guy who proudly brought up the dobbs decision who is now selling a version of
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himself as a fierce fighter for women rights. and now, women are literally dying in a posttrump era. including two recent propublica reports explain they could still be alive today if they would have had immediate access to a routine procedure called dnc. a procedure used for both abortion and miscarriage. they found both of their deaths were actually preventable. joining me now, monica sims. i want to get right to it. we heard recently from amber's mother shanete williams. let's take a listen. >> initially, i did not want
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the public to know my pain. i wanted to two through in silence. but i realized that it was selfish. i want y'all to know amber was not a statistic. she was loved by a family. a strong family. and we would have done whatever to get my baby, our baby, the help that she needed. >> reporter: monica, can you just address the notion for our audience. this is not an out liar. these stories are the tip of the iceberg, that these are not the exception to the rule but these things are happening far more often than they need to. >> thank you for having me tonight. every time i hear these stories, that i see the faces
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of these women we lost my heart aches. this is only the beginning. since the dobbs decision we have heard so many people talk about how difficult it has been for them to get access to care. they've had to travel miles and miles to get the care that they need. they are in fear of criminalization. and people are in fear of what they may encounter when they go to their health care provider. so these two stories as horrific as they are, are only the beginning and what we are now getting prepared to do is to create an opportunity for more people to share their stories so we can really understand what's at stake. >> monica, in this conversation there has been a lot made around the broad umbrella of women's reproductive rights. as with many things in america, there is a racial nuisance to this. black women are more likely to die from complications than white women are. can you talk about how we've
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seen this reality exacerbated with this 6 week abortion rule in atlanta. >> the maternal mortality is something we've been fighting for years. in georgia, we have half of our counties that don't have access to obgyn. when we think about what the health care landscape in the state of georgia is we are already in a crisis. when you add a six week ban on top of that, you are continuing to push those who have historically been pushed to the margins because we know those are the folks who are impacted the most. while pushing care for them further out of reach. and also when you add on top of that, just the impossible feelings that people feel about not feeling safe. going into health care provider. not feeling safe, having to cross state lines. we are creating hazardous and scary conditions for people and
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their health. >> you've talked about the distinction between actual legislation which vice president harris has said she will sign if elected president. and access. can you explain for our audience how significant that is. particularly picking up exactly where we left off with respect to the disparity in terms of health care access for women of color and specifically black women in places like georgia. >> absolutely. so what's real is that what happened with rowe and when we had the dobbs decision. we didn't have to take it out but that was the federal right to abortion. what we're constantly up against in our states and particularly in the south is access. even mississippi which is a state that the dobbs decision came from. there was only one abortion clinic in that state. now we're dealing with the fact that we have these bans that have been enacted in order to push people out of care and when we put those things together. then we're looking at a story that is so sad for folks. because we know that access is the issue here. at the end of the day.
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biktarvy can go with you. talk to your healthcare provider today. f0 welcome back. it is everybody's favorite time and you know what that means. it's time for the worse of the week and this one, no contest. it goes to north carolina gubernatorial candidate mark robinson who tonight is still dealing with fall out with four of his top campaign officials resigning in the wake of a damming cnn report. already notorius for his
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homophobic. robinson was habitually posting on a porn site calling himself a black nazi while saying he supported bringing back slavery. he also made disparaging comments about martin luther king jr., calling the civil rights icon a buster. some of these comments were so bad that cnn would not publish. and he says that he peeped on women. and something he still fantasizes on. he vows he is going to stay in the race. well, folks those ballots are printed and robinson's name is indeed right there alongside democratic nominee josh stein. remind me of these two, which
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is the party of family values? we're going to talk about that with my panel. cristina, it's really hard to know where to even start with this guy. like his staffers, like four top ones just left. he's still on the ballot. trump has ignored him at a rally in his own state yesterday. and then j.d. vance says, these allegations aren't really reality. as if, eating pets were in springfield. but what can be done at this point. is this just a wrap for the gop hopes in north carolina? >> i wish that were the case charles but we've seen this particular wing of the gop and this moment in time has no bottom. you know when we think about coat tails when i explain to my students who's at the top of the ticket. the people who support donald trump are probably not moved by these recent allegations. donald trump has called robinson martin luther king on steroid. this is a way for them to vote for this man and feel better
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about themselves. they clearly don't care. they are not the party of family. they believe in making sure a woman doesn't have a right to choose, they believe in separating families at the border. they believe in starving kids from small age all the way through. they don't believe in public education. the list goes on and on. this is not the party of family values. the fact they would stand by this particular character makes total sense when you look at the totality of the gop right now. >> jason to that very point. this is a guy who won his primary by a lot. like a landslide right. and so, and to be fair, i guess, this report doesn't contain all new information meaning that at the time of the primary. people knew that, he was a holocaust denier. people knew that he was a raging anti gay home phobic guy. and they were like. >> supposedly killing they said.
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there was a lot of stuff out there. >> like that's our man. so in reality, how much of an impact do you think this sort of report has on the people who had previously decided he's our man? >> look if you would ask me this on friday, i would have said, these people are going to vote for donald trump. they're going to vote for mark robinson. we went to the rally yesterday and we spoke to people specific lip about mark robinson. we did an experiment. who is excited to vote for mark robinson. it was probably 40 40% of the chairs. and people would say i'm not comfortable with a lot of the allegations that were out there. maybe some of the ones that were out there before. when you look at mark ronald trump this is a guy that was made as a donald trump footprint. he was a troll. he got the favor of donald trump. he got the endorsement of
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donald trump. this is what happens when you endorse people who weren't qualified to have the jobs. this is what happens when donald trump selects candidates like this. >> and what's interesting about this cristina is the harris campaign sort of anticipated seemingly that this was going to go south in grand fashion. and they have already begun posting clips of trump praising him rallies. how much does this news of robinson help kamala harris. >> you want as many strong people in the ticket as possible. mark robinson has made that difficult for the republican party. even though he has not resigned or stepped down thus far and he is on the ballot as of that friday deadline that he missed. it makes it a lot more complicated for the republicans and we've seen the digital
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campaign of the harris-walz campaign has been large in part. i believe all states right now are in play and we could get into a deeper conversation about our 2022 governor's race which makes it the reason why donald trump comes to new york a little more knowledgeable and reasonable as to why he would do that. north carolina is now definitely in play. you want to make sure you articulate to republicans and independents and they can either sit this one out, skip the second name on the ballot or possibly think about the democratic party candidate and the reason why it would make sense for the vote to move to the democratic candidate. >> robinson's chance is just generally speaking. you talked about in north carolina, the lack of enthusiasm around him. could we be looking at another situation where we have a split
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ticket in terms of republican voters going to the polls and supporting trump and either sitting or standing town on robinson or voting for someone else. >> i will say a lot of people and this is totally unscientific. talking to people there particularly women they said they will vote for donald trump. he is their guy. they will not vote for mark robinson. so i think you could see him lose and trump win. i think that is a possibility there. i know trump always over performs these polls when he's on the ticket in an election. it could be a situation where, robinson loses by a lot. and this is really a really tight race between harris and trump. >> the most interesting thing to me about all of this it seems like candidates are doing more damage to themselves than their opponent ever could. thank you both for being an amazing panel on this sunday. and next, we shift from worse
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i'm getting vaccinated with pfizer's pneumococcal pneumonia vaccine. so am i. because i'm at risk for pneumococcal pneumonia. come on. i already got a pneumonia vaccine, but i'm asking about the added protection of prevnar 20®. if you're 19 or older with certain chronic conditions like asthma, diabetes, copd, or heart disease, or are 65 or older, you are at increased risk for pneumococcal pneumonia. prevnar 20® is approved in adults to help prevent infections from 20 strains of the bacteria that cause pneumococcal pneumonia. in just one dose. don't get prevnar 20® if you've had a severe allergic reaction to the vaccine or its ingredients. adults with weakened immune systems may have a lower response to the vaccine. the most common side effects were pain and swelling at the injection site, muscle pain, fatigue, headache, and joint pain. i want to be able to keep my plans. i don't want to risk ending up in the hospital with pneumococcal pneumonia. that's why i chose prevnar 20®. ask your doctor or pharmacist about the pfizer vaccine for pneumococcal pneumonia.
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♪ [suspenseful music] trains. [whoosh] ♪ trains that use the power of dell ai and intel. clearing the way, [rumble] [whoosh] so you arrive exactly where you belong. c1 as a lawyer i'm always going to be the first person to say that every person who is charged with a crime deserves his day in court. and the presumption is he is innocent until proven guilty. that's the way our system works and that is the law of the
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land. but holding powerful men to account for abuse is notoriusly difficult and it often starts with one brave woman. case in point, actress mcgowen one of the first to speak out about being assaulted by the now disgraced mogul weinstein. this has been an ongoing saga for nearly a decade. still, weinstein's 2020 rape conviction was overturned. a retrial is set for november with new and additional charges. barriers like these can seem unsurmountable which makes the first step of speakingout all the more courageous. its also makes these type of cases extremely difficult to navigate. and enter diddy combs.
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we've seen allegations so sickening i don't even want to get into the details. i want instead to talk about the reason why we even have this indictment in the first place. another brave woman. a woman named cassandra ventura also known as cassy. the singer who used to date combs filed and reached a settlement a day after she filed. and being described trapped in a cycle of abuse, violence, and sex trafficking. ventura is not named any where in the new indictment against combs but highlighted by alicia ruben when put side by side with her lawsuit it becomes clear just how much prosecutors appear to have taken their lead from her. distinguishing this case from other sex crimes prosecutions. last november, ventura alleged that combs forced her to engage
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in sex acts with male sex workers while he filmed them. he describes how combs staff hid her in a hotel after he violently attacked her. all of this appears in an indictment against combs. ventura's story didn't just provide it helped other victims who then filed about the manipulation and abuse. prosecutors in this case conducted interviews with 50 victims and witnesses. despite threats and intimidation by combs himself. now the reasons a victim may not choose to speak up are endless. the drawn out legal process, the public scrutiny. the real threat of physical danger, and that's why we must
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acknowledge and celebrate pure unadulterated courage when we see it. that's going to do it for me. remember to catch ayman every saturday and sunday at 7:00 p.m. eastern and follow the show on x and instagram at ayman msnbc. have a great week. good night. with severe allergic reactions to its ingredients or to a previous dose. an increased risk of guillain-barré syndrome was observed after getting shingrix. fainting can also happen. the most common side effects are pain, redness, and swelling at the injection site, muscle pain, tiredness, headache, shivering, fever, and upset stomach. ask your doctor or pharmacist about shingrix today.
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