colleagues for a special black women in america the road to 2024 and we will feature conversations with people like kerry washington, the political strategist donna brazil and others and we will explore how black women are thinking about the selection and what the candidates can do to earn their votes in november. you will be surprised by some of what you hear and you can watch black women in america the road to 2024 sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc and streaming on peacock the next day. on that note, i wish you a very very good night and from all of our colleagues across the network thank you so much for staying up late. i will see you this weekend. thank you at home for joining us as our. josh stein will join us as our. you have heard a lot about a man named mark robinson the

trump endorsed republican candidate for governor north carolina and the gentleman who cnn reported recently described himself years ago as a . he praised hitler and called for the return of slavery in the washington post reported on him praising mein kampf. mark robinson the republican candidate for governor denies all of it but i should note he has said explicitly that he wants to go back to a time when women weren't allowed to vote and he has not denied that because it is on tape. you heard a lot about mark robinson and heard a lot less probably about josh stein but he is the democratic nominee for governor north carolina and the man running against him. he is currently the attorney general of north carolina. running for governor is always a big responsibility but think

about what josh stein has on his shoulders. if he doesn't win this governor's race in north carolina, it is not just like a lost opportunity for democrats. if he doesn't win this race, north carolina really will get a governor who calls himself a and says he wants to bring back slavery and not want women to vote and talk about the stakes in an election. no pressure, josh stein and he will join me here live in just a moment. i am excited to talk to them. we will be joined tonight by the former chairman of the republican party in the great state of maine because, today, not one, not two but three former chairs of the statewide republican party in that state just endorsed the democratic candidate kamala harris for

president. this is three republican state party chairman's endorsing harris and i will be talking with the former main republican party chief ted o'mara this hour as well and we have a lot coming up. that endorsement for harris from those republican party chairman, it is the latest and what has just been this long string of man bites dog unexpected company endorsements for kamala harris and her campaign and not just the former republican vice president addict cheney endorsing harris and is very conservative former republican congresswoman daughter liz cheney and not just the big group of former reagan administration officials endorsing kamala harris. it isn't just the trump administration officials who spoke on the behalf of kamala harris at the convention but also now more than 700 military and national security leaders

were just this weekend find onto a mass endorsement for harris. the national security and retired military endorsements for harris coming at a particularly fraught time in the international news with israel of course launching something to look very much like it could be a full-scale new war against hezbollah targets with hundreds of people killed in lebanon by the strikes. this is simultaneous with israel's ongoing bombardment of gaza were tens of thousands of people have died. president biden and vice president harris today had separate meetings with the president of the united arab emirate which is influential in both the president and vice resident talked with him about trying to find some way out of the gaza hamas catastrophe at again potentially spiraling into yet another full-scale conflict involving hezbollah and lebanon.

that president is here in the united states for the same reason that so many heads of state from all over the world are here in the united states which is the united nations general assembly is this week in new york and this happens with all of the heads of state coming all over the world for the general assembly this week and at a moment of profound peril and difficulty in so many parts of the world. and with everything going on, it doesn't help that in the middle of this the united states the host country in the most powerful and influential, richest country in the whole world, we ourselves at this moment are apparently unsure as to whether we would prefer kamala harris to be our next president or whether we prefer to go back to the guy who launched a violent attack in the u.s. congress when he lost in the last presidential election in the united states.

i mean, the rest of the world can see we are doing this and they have to cope with it, right? how do they explain what the future of the united states is like given what we are doing now. initially there was wide spread repulsion in this country over the attack launched by trump supporters against congress after the 2020 election. it didn't last. republicans have almost now universally decided it wasn't so bad and they picked him to be the presidential nominee again and running for president again by praising the rioters and promising to free them from privet -- prison. it is hard to get our minds around it but imagine being an important american ally who is relying on us who has real trouble and this week you send your president or prime minister or head of state to the united nations in new york or this week and you have to say before you send your leader out into the u.n. general

assembly, try to make nice with both sides in america. america is apparently having a hard time deciding between kamala harris and donald trump. so while you are there, try to develop nice relations with both sides. how do you do that? they all have to do it. there is slow to merit -- president zelenskyy visiting a factory in pennsylvania that makes 155 miller read meter -- millimeter artillery shells and he is there to thank the factory workers for making these shells and say they need as many as they can make. but then he has to come to new york to meet with harrison biden from the biden ministration but also to meet with trump because looking at the polls it is 50-50 that he may win. somebody by -- like president

zelenskyy with everybody that he has to deal with he will likely make the best out of some kind of meeting presumably with this guy who tried to extort him and his government into announcing a false investigation into joe biden as a political favor to donald trump on which trump conditioned military aid to his country in the sky, trump who said he is basically in love with putin and said as far as he is concerned putin can do what he wants and even to our allies at nato who said he will keep supporting ukraine or not even wanting ukraine to win would ask this and wouldn't even say he would prefer that the ally ukraine when the war. -- win the war. they are helping again to get them into the white house and president zelenskyy has to meet with him and make nice because we as a country apparently can't decide. it is 50-50 right now as to who

will be the president so the whole world has to hedge their bets and make best. our election is only six weeks away. it is tied. it is six weeks and people are already early voting in multiple states and being this far along means a few things. it means, most importantly, personally, you at home, if you have feelings about this election, about who you want to win the election, whether it is the presidential race for the u.s. senate race or the governor's race or where you live or the state legislature or anything. if you have feelings about who you want to win in the selection, this is now officially the time that you need to do something about it and help achieve the results you are hoping for and it is now six weeks until election day which means it is time if you care about the election results this year and not already volunteering or already offering to phone bank or do

doorknocking for a campaign, you are late because it is time to do it now. right now and no later. this is the time when you are supposed to start volunteering to help one way or the other so pick a race in your candidate and a ballot issue. time is short and the river rises. watching tv and worrying about the news doesn't count is actually doing something to help your country. if you think the selection matters and you have a preference as to who wins, you have to do something other than worry. that is the first thing. the other thing is being this close to election day, six weeks out, it means you have a good idea of what these will look like for the selection, the character of how each side will run their candidate for the presidency and we know for example that republicans will try to win the election this

year by gaming the system and trying to change the administration of the election and change how the votes are cast and counted. today the pro trump majority on the georgia state election board met again and pushed through yet more changes in that crucial swing state even after they were just warned by the states republican attorney general's office, the states republican secretary of state's office last week, just warned that they are doing things they are not allowed to do but nevertheless they announced more and today they announced they will investigate eight different counties in georgia for having rejected math republican challenges to individual voter registrations and aimed at taking voters off the rolls and the state election board will now investigate counties that didn't do enough to throw voters off but today they announced a new plan six weeks out to mandate that photographs of every ballot should be put

online immediately following the election. and we are six weeks out and people, the ballots have gone out and this is yet another new rule. local officials, and again statewide officials like the attorney general and secretary of state have sat on the record that what the state election board in georgia is doing is crazy in the word used by the secretary of state's office was absurd to the. but they are going for it. if maximum chaos is what they want and that critical swing state, apparently that is what they are determined to get. so we have eyes on this rolling disaster in georgia and keeping eyes on nebraska were republicans in the trump campaign are trying to make a last-minute change to the rules and nebraska that have been in place for more than 30 years and republicans are afraid that kamala harris may win one

electoral vote from a congressional district in omaha which is the state's biggest city so they are now at the very last second trying to change the rules in the state of nebraska to block her from being able to get that vote in the republican u.s. senator lindsey graham, you may have seen has been and nebraska trying to talk republicans they are in the doing that and today a single republican state senator said he wasn't going to go along with it and it didn't seem right or fair to do it this way especially at the last minute. the reason i say we are watching nebraska in the wake of that news today is because naturally once this one republican state senator came out and said he wasn't going to go along with it, thus scuttling the plans to make this last-minute change, donald trump himself is singling out that one individual state senator and singling him out by name attacking them online and blaming him and putting pressure on him. this is exactly the kind of

tactics he brought to bear in 2020 when he singled out individual local republican officials in places like michigan and arizona, pennsylvania and all of the swing states telling them essentially to do his bidding or else or face the consequences. that kind of name and shame intimidation from trump alone and the legions of his followers who take what he think is the appropriate action on command when he singles out by name to target, that is a rerun from what we saw in 2020 which didn't ultimately work to throw it out in 2020 but it did ruin the lives of a whole lot of low-level officials and state officials whom he targeted by name to bend them to his will. it transformed their lives and the lives of family members and in bad ways. but that is how trump politics

work and how we operate. if we have learned anything from a country from seeing previous iterations of his intimidation tactics brought to bear on low level of your state- level officials, if we have learned anything from seeing this happening before, we should've learned that the way you stop his intimidation tactics from working is by opposing them, by recognizing that is what he is doing and by overtly standing up for these people when they are attacked and making sure the only people who get in trouble in a trump initiated confrontation like this are the people who make the threats, the people who try to intimidate and coerce public officials into doing what they otherwise wouldn't do. when trump singles out individual, particularly republicans covered individual local municipal, county state officials like that to get them what he wants them to do around

the election, we know that sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't to get them to bend to his will but it ruins their lives. and we have seen it over and over again and that is why the intimidation background or tactics to use works because it makes him afraid in the way to stop that is to stand up for people targeted like this and make sure anybody threatening or trying to coerce them gets busted for. we didn't do enough of that in 2020. we have to do it in 2024 as part of defending the democracy. >> the washington post this weekend front paged a story about what they called the turbulent phase that trump's campaign has entered into for this last six weeks of the campaign and they described his behavior in the campaign right now as impulsive and impetuous and post noted in the story in a single 24-hour span at the end of last month for example

trump amplified a crude joke about vice president harris performing a sex act and falsely accused her of staging a coup against president biden and promoted tributes to the q and on conspiracy erie and hawked digital trading cards and became involved in a public feud with officials at the arlington cemetery all in 24 hours which is true and it goes on to describe what they call the policy incoherence at this point in his campaign as well. and, to be clear along with this erratic behavior, and outrageous behavior, this is off the charts. there are in explicitly -- in explicitly normal competing candidates we can assess using

the same kind of terms but they are not the same and not the same kind of candidates and not the same kind of things. for example here is kamala harris getting the endorsement of 700 retired national military and security officials while trump is promising that if he is president he will find were california is hiding its huge secret faucet that they used to dump all the rainwater into the ocean and if he is president he will find the handle of the gigantic faucet and turn it the other way and it takes a whole day to turn the handle he said. so problems solved and everybody will have all the water they want. and here is a kamala harris promising eight child tax credit and to say how she would pay for it and here is donald trump saying he will abolish the department of the interior for some reason and nobody even asked him why he would do that.

here is trump saying he wants to take away the broadcast licenses of news organizations that criticize him and here he is saying he wants to put former president obama in front of a military tribunal. but harris does one a child tax credit and one of these things isn't like the other. and even if you go to the less outrageous stuff, republicans in the house of representatives just ignored trump's demand to shut down the government before the election and they are going ahead with funding the government against his wishes and not bringing about shut down even though he demanded one in that insult and rebuke to the leader of the republican party would have led the news for days if this is a candidate who attracted normal political coverage. instead, while he instead raced toward election day rolling out a new scam or moneymaking effort to squeeze money out of the stands most every day and this alone is bizarre and

imagine kamala harris doing something like this but every day there is a new commemorative coin that he is selling to his supporters coming hot on the heels of his new cryptocurrency which he rolled out with the help of a man who literally calls himself the dirt bag of the internet and another man who is a self proclaimed pick up artist and here's the candidates wife launching her own book this week hot on the heels of the news that the majority of her campaign appearances the cycle was one for which she was personally paid hundreds of thousands of dollars and here is his daughter in law who be installed as the chair of the national party nevertheless finding time to drop a new single for her side hustle where she is a singer. none of these things from the coin to the single are raising

money for the trump campaign a republican party but personal moneymaking gigs for he and his family that they are launching at the height of the campaign. and imagine if kamala harris was rolling out a mortgage scam and some commemorative trinkets right now but not for the campaign but to get her and doug some money? trump brought a 911 truth or dash make and his staff shoved a worker when they tried to stop them filming thumbs-up big grin campaign videos. and now not any problem with the north carolina republican candidate for governor whom he endorsed and whom he is celebrated as a candidate with no problem at all and not even after the reporting of the man literally calling himself aand praises hitler and mein kampf and wants to take away a women's -- woman's right to

vote and bring back slavery because he thought it was good. and imagine being a world leader from some other country and coming to new york for the united nations this week and coming to the united states of america briefed and cognizant that a presidential nominee in this country in that situation who can even criticize or distance himself from a candidate who is said those things, a presidential nominee of one of the major parties essentially has even odds right now of being elected president of the united states, president of the united states of america. and imagine having to come up with your contingency plans for that. and for that matter imagine being josh stein in north carolina right now the one man tasked with the one job of making sure that that trump endorsed self-proclaimed hitler promoting proslavery candidate doesn't take control of the

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to get the entertainment you love to you faster and easier than ever. that's what i do. is that love island? in 1971, the supreme court considered what would ultimately be a landmark case a group of families in north carolina suing their local school board arguing that not enough was being done to desegregate their kids schools. since that time, 1971, more than 15 years after brown v board of education which was supposed and racial segregation in schools nationwide, but in this district in north carolina nothing had changed on the ground and most black kids were still attending schools that only had black kids in them.

so this group of families brought this case to force north carolina to actually desegregate and this was argued before the supreme court by this man julius chambers who was a north carolina legal leader and he had opened the first integrated law office in north carolina and black and white lawyers. and the law office specialized in civil rights cases and he would go on to win that case in the us supreme court. but before the ruling was handed down while he was still in the middle of arguing the case, his law office in north carolina was firebombed and charlotte, north carolina happening around 4:30 in the morning and took 50 firefighters and seven fire trucks an hour to get it under control. and tons of law records were

destroyed. miraculously they did actually managed to save the files about that specific school desegregation case that was actively before the supreme court at the time of the firebombing. and one of the partners at this firm a man named adam stein, talk to the charlotte observer after the firebombing and talk to him about this case potentially being motivation for that attack. at that time that partner in the firm adam stein had a young son who said today more than 50 years after that happened that he vividly still remembers the day his dad's office got firebombed and his civil rights lawyer dad had suffered that attack and what he was up against. and that civil rights lawyer adam stein and his son was named josh. josh grew up to be a lawyer like his dad also north carolina and today he is the attorney general of the

state, a democrat and today he is the nominee for governor in that state. josh stein's republican opponent in the race has gotten a lot of press especially recently, mark robinson, currently in the news because he reportedly once referred to himself as a nazi and praised mein kampf as a quote good read" in both of these comments made its way to a pornography website and he denies making these remarks. that because of who he is running against, the democrats are a little bit more optimistic than they otherwise would be about their chances this year even if they could be a little bit more freaked out about the stakes of what happens if they potentially lose this race. the chair of the democratic party in north carolina said they are not ceding any ground in the state but actively campaigning especially in rural areas that sometimes in the past had been written off as red leaning and this year they

said they will find every vote even in the most rural corners of any community and they won't let republicans run uncontested and state legislative races or letting any corner of the state be seated as red territory. the north carolina democrats this year are ambitious and energized about their chances and not just for josh stein in that race but for kamala harris at the top of the ticket too. joining us now is the attorney general josh stein and i am thanking you for being here and i know it is a busy time. >> thank you, rachel. >> let me ask if i got that right about your father's experience when you were growing up in north carolina and what you remember about that. >> you did get it right and it warmed my heart to hear you say that. my father and his law partners are my heroes and they inspired me to do the work i do because they were always fighting for what is right and they wouldn't back down even after that

firebombing with his home and car and they are incredibly brave but they had resolved because in their hearts they knew what they were fighting for was right. it is a little bit different today, we do have similar fights in north carolina and across this country. what we are fighting for is right about fighting for people in trying to have hope and not hate and about decency, not obscenity and about competence and not chaos. it is about a better future for all of our people. that is what our campaign is about and, sadly mark robinson represents 100 percent the opposite. >> i do want to ask you about what is going on with your opponent right now still a developing story and news in terms of him shedding endorsements and losing support even just tonight and i want to get there but i want to ask about the democratic campaign

with a lot of attention on north carolina because, if kamala harris at the presidential level can win north carolina, many of the potential paths for him to get the presidency are closed off and it's important and democrats seem like they are quietly confident they could do it and a lot of paid staffers for the democratic presidential campaign in north carolina and dozens of field offices and we have seen efforts in rural parts of the state that may have been previously written off as red leaning because they are rural but can you tell me about the integration of your efforts in the state and democratic parties efforts in kamala harris's efforts and what you think about the key is to democratic victory is strategically and tactfully -- tactically? >> there is no road to the white house without north carolina and he needs to win

that in order to have a chance which is why he is coming again and he was just a this weekend and he is coming back in a day or so and jd vance has been here twice in the last week. they are so committed to winning but that same energy is happening on the harris-walz ticket and they keep coming to north carolina because they know they can win. there is widespread enthusiasm and honestly the only thing i can liken it to was 2008 the first time obama ran for president and people bumping into each other and knocking on doors and it is that kind of energy with 250 field workers in a dozen field offices. we want to be a rising vote that lifts all tides and i am first committed to winning this race but in addition to that i want to stamp out this toxicity and show there is a better way forward for north carolina and i hope we will work our tails off to bring this majority and we are only one vote shy in each chamber and have an important supreme court race and 10 excellent candidates

running for this and then of course vice president harris running for president. >> even before the recent round of reporting about reported online statements from your opponent for governor and i should say he denies the statements but even before that he is on record saying he wants to go back to a time when women weren't allowed to vote and he said women shouldn't be allowed to lead and he said the only reason that women care about or want abortions or that women care about abortion rights is because they can't keep their skirts down and he calledpeople fill in called teachers terrible people and worse terms than that and this is before you got to the most recent round of reporting from the washington post and cnn that he literally called himself a and praised hitler and praised mein kampf and wants to bring slavery back and i almost feel like this is mad libs and i don't know what else could be revealed about a candidate to make him more cartoonishly

offensive to most people who will be considering whether or not to vote for him. what do you think should happen in your race? do you think he should drop out in the republican party should do something to remove him from consideration as the republican nominee for governor? how do you handle this tight of revelations about him? >> mark robinson has revealed himself to be absolutely unfit to be governor and unacceptable for any elected position and i don't care what office it is but let alone governor and this was true before last week story broke. and yet practically every republican running for office in the legislature and above and north carolina have endorsed him. the former president, donald trump has endorsed him and not a single republican in north carolina has rescinded his or her endorsement of mark robinson. it is astounding to me. he should not be the candidate and he never should've in the

candidate. he is wrong for north carolina and wrong for the people. he is divisive and hateful and he is mean-spirited and nasty. it is unacceptable that we would have somebody like that leading our state. it does not have to be that way. we don't have to have that kind of future here north carolina. there is a better path forward where we are fighting for people in trying to create opportunity for people and tapping everyone's potential so we can build a better future for all of us. that future is possible if we win this race and folks out there if they want to help us defeat mark robinson and paid a better future go to my website and it would be helpful. >> thank you very much for being here and i know you do have a very very important race to run and i appreciate your taking the time. >> i should mention that since we have been on the air, republican governor of georgia,

josh stein is right that the north carolina republicans have not pulled their endorsements but the georgia republican governor, brian kemp, pulled his endorsement of mark robinson in north carolina and we should mention the republican governors association announced they will no longer be running any advertisements on his behalf. >> we have much more news ahead and i have to tell you we got in moments ago a pretty jaw- dropping statement from a republican running for senate and this is a new statement that apparently on tape and i read the transcript of what he said which is jaw-dropping and i haven't yet heard the tape that i will hear it here with you because we just got it into the control room and we will do that and show you it on the other side of this break. stay with us.

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we do have this tape and i mentioned before the break we just got something in sort of shocking from a u.s. senate candidate a republican candidate from ohio and the democratic incumbent senator is senator brown running for reelection and republicans have nominated a wealthy car dealer to try to unseat him in the republican candidate named bernie marino and we just got this tape of bernie marino at a campaign event in lebanon, ohio. >> sadly, by the way there are

a lot of suburban women that are like, listen, abortion is it and if i can't have an abortion in this country whenever i want i will vote for anybody else. okay. a little crazy by the way, especially for women past 50. >> thank god my wife didn't hear that one. a little crazy by the way but especially for women past 50. i am thinking to myself i don't think that is an issue for you. that tape justin from lebanon ohio with the republican candidate saying any woman over 50 doesn't have any reason to support reproductive rights or abortion rights. are you kidding? women over 50 and i am thinking

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queen city here and a super cute international airport with a fittingly large statue of paul bunyan. as of this morning's paper a new center of no from republicans who don't want the republican presidential nominee donald trump to be president again. and that is headlined in the daily news we chaired the main republican party and endorsed kamala harris for president and this was written by three different former chairs of the maine republican party. we lead our party at a time when candidates of both parties were not only civil and believed in the rule of law but we believe had the best interest of the state an entire nation foremost in their hearts even when we disagreed and policies and we see these same characteristics on full display and vice president harris and her canvassing. sadly they are lacking in her

opponent former president donald trump and each of us has had the honor of traveling the state of maine to recruit and support candidates and talk about the values and the republican party once stood for and his maga republican party is unrecognizable to us. much of the leadership of today's republican party has joined in the cult of trump and we know they will care little for what we have the say. but we do know the republican party in maine is home to many honest hard-working principled people who, more than any other party label, want what is best for our state and nation and we hope they will join us in supporting harris for president and that is the former chairs of the state republican party in the great state of maine in joining us now is one of those former chairs who endorsed vice president harris today. i do appreciate your taking the time for being here. >> thank you for having me on, rachel. >> what went into these decisions to have these former

chairman? >> i think it was an easy decision as the op ed states we all lead the party in a different time and place when it was truly something in stood for personal liberty and a clean environment and fiscal responsibility. today it has become a cult and has no principles and believes whatever their leader have to say on any given day. >> liz cheney spoke a few days ago that the prospect that the republican party may have run out its lease on credibility by sticking with donald trump for three consecutive election cycles and the republican party, if it can't fundamentally reinvent itself in a post trump way that the party may need to go out of business. and some other governing

responsible conservative party may need to build itself from scratch and i wondered your thoughts on that having a leadership role in your state. >> i still think she is right but the basic foundation is there and we are the party of that and here in maine margaret smith and olympia snowe and that foundation, i think, is still there. but i think we have to end the reign of donald trump before that party can be built and all of us who once led the party and many of us, who like me, have left the party, none of us rushed out to become democrats. we left the republican party because it no longer stood for the things that we believed in and no longer stood for the things the party has always stood for. also, rachel, i think over the

last decade or so just the constant chaos and insanity we have been through, we have to put an end to it. the only way to do that is to get behind vice president harris and tim walz and join them in a new way forward and it's the only way the republican party or any other alternative party is going to be able to merge. >> you and your former fellow state republican party chairman closed the op-ed by saying this, the former georgia governor jeff duncan a republican put it best last month when he said let me be clear to my republican friends at home. if you vote for kamala harris in 2024, you are not a democrat. you are a patriot. and then you close by saying on november five, be a patriot. i wanted to ask as somebody who has spent a lot of time as a political professional and

supported a lot of campaigns and did a lot of thinking about strategy, what do you think the impact is a former republicans like yourself, mr. duncan in georgia and people like vice president cheney and liz cheney and so many other former republicans and former reagan administration officials and trump administration officials and so many republicans saying it is patriotic to vote for harris and what you think will be the strategic impact of that? >> i hope it helps people feel it's okay to join us and putting your state and country in your family before any party label is the most important thing you can do. you know, as a talked about, there are many good hard- working principled people out there that still consider themselves republican. you know, this will be a close election. if we can encourage just a few people to come along with us

and say it is okay this time to vote for a democratic candidate because it is what is in the best interest of our state and nation and our families. i hope we can persuade a few people that it is okay to join us. >> thank you, sir. thank you for being here. >> thank you, rachel. >> i will be right back. have you ever considered getting a walk-in tub? well, look no further! safe step's best offer, just got better! now, when you purchase your brand new safe step walk-in tub,

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