by quite a bit. is he any good at debating? >> his team will say he's gotten better at it. he has sdsh think point to all these interviews he's been doing, including on "meet the press", mainstream interviews with people they consider to be adversarial. they feel those interviews with hostile questioners. and also his combative social media personality. they are pointing to that as training and experience for what you'll see on the debate stage next week. >> henry gomez, thank you. that's going to do it for me today. "deadline: white house" starts right now. hi, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york. faing a massive double-digit deficit with women voters on a scale that threatens to sink any chance of donald trump and

republican candidates all across the country in november, the ex-president and his maga allies are reminding us just why that gender gap exists in the first place. statements that reveal over and over and over again their udder disregard for freedoms and views held by countless numbers of women in this country. case in point, the ex-president turned in a gaslighting performance for the ages at a rally last night. >> i am your protectorer. i want to be your protector as president. i have to be your protector. i hope you don't make too much of it. i hope the fake news doesn't go, oh, he wants to be their protect er. well, i am. you'll no longer be abandoned, lonely or scared. you'll no longer be in danger. you're not going to be in danger any longer. you'll no longer have anxiety from all of the problems our country has today.

you'll be protected, and i will be your protector. [ applause ] women will be happy, healthy, confident, and free. you will no longer be thinking about abortion. >> never mind that he's the reason women have lost access to reproductive health care and he's damn proud of that fact. three justices he hand picked formed the majority on the supreme court that overturned roe vs. wade allowing for draconian bans to be ushered in across the country. then on the debate stij with 67 million people watching, donald trump dodged on whether he would veto a national abortion ban if it wound up on his desk. despite all that according to

one maga candidate, it's us. we're the problem. women who are, quote, crazy or worrying about all this silly stuff any way. abortion rights. here's ohio senate candidate bernie moreno. >> sadly, by the way, there's a the lot of suburban women, a lot of suburban women that are like abortion is it. if i can't have an abortion in this country, i will vote for anybody else. a little crazy, by the way. especially for women that are past 50. that's an issue for you. >> yes, we women over 50 lose our ability to grieve the senseless death of mothers in georgia who die because of the trump abortion ban spraeding across the country. it just happens we turn 50. my friend and colleague put it

unfortunately for this guy, women over 50 still have the right to vote, even if he doesn't think we have a right to an opinion. what this all amounts to, though, is an incredible reveal. it shows us what trump and his republican party really think about us, about women, a place in american life and in american politics. if moreno's world, women are not to think for themselves. fortunately, american women aren't listening to maga men. one has to be impressed by the good sense of today's american women. now if only a few american men had the good sense to listen to american women. donald trump and the maga movement showing all of us exactly who they are and where they see women. our daughters, our sisters, our mothers, in america in the year 2024 is where we start. former senator, host of podcast

claire mccaskill is with us. also minute new york, and the executive director of republican voters against trump, sara longwell is here. what is the state of sort of the not just the female vote for trump, but the issues driving the men who love the female voters in a way that could be significant in november? >> i got to say, first of all, the gap that is opening up in terms of gender is more or less like nothing we have ever seen before. women are breaking hard for kamala harris. obviously, trump is doing better with men. i think when we look back is going to be the general polarization. it's this idea that the reason

that women are breaking disproportionally for kamala harris is just because of abortion. that is wrong. women care very much about the economy. they care about crime and immigration. they care about all the same issues that men do. i think what's happening is that the republican party, and donald trump specifically, has a tragedy of trying to run up the numbers with men. that is why he picked jd vance as his running mate. in doing so, they don't just try to appeal to men. they are running a campaign that is actively alienating to women. it's not just about policy issues. it's about the way that jd vance attacks childless cat ladies, which by the way in all my focus groups, that has broken through. but that's not even as pernicious as the things like if women are with somebody who is abuive, they should stay with that man. we hear things like that from the vice presidential candidate, as you point out, trump is an adjudicated rapist.

and has always been massagistic. you have candidates like mark robinson in north carolina who says this he is validly pro life, committed for life, except for the abortion that he paid for for he and his wife back in the day, not to mention all the other issues he has calling himself a black nazi. just these dana white, who was caught on camera hitting his wife, was featured, introduced donald trump at the republican national convention. the list goes on and on in terms of the way the republican party creates a sense that women don't have a place in that coalition. and so for donald trump to treat them like the "i am your protector" is like somebody who is anner, the way that they would then talk to the abused to try to keep them encircled or

ensnared by them. based on his poll numbers with women, women are not falling for it. >> i went and read the sean combs indictment today. i made this argument yesterday that when we look back, the story will be the enablers. and the epstein story is about a sadistic man, but this is about the apparatus, those who knew. the combs indictment and the idea to charge a conspiracy and the people that procured the items is legally fascinating to me. i'm not a lawyer. i didn't survive on "the view" because i didn't know who these people were, but the way the law is charging conspirators is so fascinating if our politics can start to recognize political enablers. and what feels, to me, to be catching up with trump is grab

women between the legs, the 19 women that accused trump, all this was information available in 2016. and for trump instead of doing things for the perception that he's a massage knits and defamer of e. jean carroll, he defames her again. instead of moving to the central on abortion, which trump supporters thought he would do, he's proud of his decision. and he's going to prosecute and jail anyone who criticizes those judges. no one has threatened judges more often than donald trump, but he's going to come after anyone that threatens the judges who decided roe. i wonder where there's been affirmation for the years and the record of a public statement that start on "access hollywood" in terms of his political life and culminate in this

gaslighting last night. the language of an abuser. i alone can protect you. >> this idea of the apparatus, i'm so glad you brought it up. here's the thing. i always believed courage is contagious. doing the right thing, speaking out against trump, that's contagious. that's how you build a permission structure. you can also be build a negative permission structure because coward esz is also contagious. this is the republican party when donald trump, that "access hollywood" tape and the way that people handled that, it should be studied forever because this was a case of in the immediate sit of it, i remember paul ryan saying i'm not going to appear with this guy. republicans ran from him quickly. they began pulling endorsements from him. then what they did over time, what he refused to apologize, said it was locker room talk, they came back to him. and the story of the last getting close to a decade is a

story of donald trump doing the most repugnant, morally horrible things and for republicans causing an insurrection, getting all of these feony counts, all of it, republicans time and time again have chosen the cow war ard dez part mission structure and say we're going to go back to trump. everybody decided now, but i go back to the way that women are running from this campaign with everything they have. it does make me hope, my most fer strent hope is donald trump loses this election and does it because women turn out in droves to vote against him. including center right women. because that is just the kind of justice that donald trump deserves. >> i couldn't agree more.

i see it with everything. claire, you live in a part of the country where people don't assume that a democratic candidate is viable there. i'm not suggesting that missouri is in play, but i'm asking, are we seeing something transcendent, while 20 and 30-year-old staffers have fled the campaign of a self-described black nazi, the republican leadership hasn't. all the committees and in washington have even if they are not spending on him, they haven't disavowed him. i wonder if if you feel anything under your feet shifting in terms of an awakening at just how rotten the maga movement has become. >> there's been a real shift.

what trump has done is he's taught republicans to lose their moral compass. he's taught them how to do it. he models it every day. if you look at what todd aiken said in 2012, it was nothing compared to what robinson and what has been exposed for this candidate that's running for governor in north carolina. in 2012, the republican leadership all stood up and said and rejected todd aiken. it wasn't what he said, it was a reaction for republican leaders. that's all gone now. what mitch mcconnell has done and i name him first because i think he's as guilty as anyone else, maybe more guilty,s but what thune has done, what all the republican senators have done, what all the house members have done is they have made this normal in the republican party. i do not want to hear a lcture

about his christian morality when he couldn't even speak against robinson at his press conference today. give me a break. he wants to talk about how he and his son read the bible together. he can't speak out against a man who has done the things that robinson has done and said the things that he said. it's unbelievable to me. and the thing that really struck me about trump and women, he's not trying to get women except now he's panicking because the numbers -- the gap is so big. so what does he do to try to get women? he uses his language of being the protector, but the other thing he useds was the possessive pro noun, our women. i'm going to protect our women. he owns the women. now i heard our women, i go, wait a minute the, we're not your women. we are independent women. all we want is our rights. all we want is our freedom.

all we want is our ability to control the most personal and private decision they can possibly ever be made in a woman's life. so it is crazy that he's taking on this and thinks that somehow that's going to get women over to his side saying you belong to me and i'm going to protect you. you're mine. it is just -- and the fact that no republicans are standing up and going, no, where are the republican women? where is susan collins and, yes, they are not voting for him, but they should be rejecting this. >> i'm done with i'm not supporting trump but. anyone who isn't supporting trump, and i'll single out mitt romney, who is the subject of some lovely new writing and

reporting, he tells a haunting story of how chilling it is that he will be targeted should trump be reelected. i don't belief him. if you're that haunted, if you find it chilling, you dot one thing that protects your wife. you want to be a protectorer, there's one way to protect your wife and your kids and your grand kids. believe he loves them, by don't believe he finds it chilling. because if he did, he wouldn't just endorse kamala harris. he would call her and say how can i help you. because i am a protector. if you find it chilling that your kids and grand kids and wife could be threatened by donald trump's second term, you do something. so i'm not saying that he can't be chilled, but if he was, he would be campaigning for kamala harris.

a frightened person does anything they can to actually protect them. so i think it's time to draw a line in the sand and call bull on people who say i'm not voting for trump, but i can't do it for harris. if you're not voting for trump because he's afraid of what he'd do to the rule of law, he's the reason there's no immigration bill. trump is the reason that women are dying in georgia. trump is antilife. trump is anti-immigration policy trump is anti-constitution. if your a republican who isn't voting for him because you care about any one of those things, it's bull if you you're not campaigning for kamala harris. there's one way to do something if that's what you care about. >> i'm a progressive drat, and i never thought i'd see the day where dick cheney is showing more moral courage than mitt romney or joe manchin. we're living in wild times right now. it goes to show that we have so

many folks in public life, white republicans and moderates who are afraid. but not afraid enough. they are concerned about their own brand more than they are about the american people. and the american people particularly women, the women who are driving gender gap will remember that. he's making wild comments about women over 50. because the abortion measure, the abortion ballot measure last year in ohio in an off year won by 56.6%. and it won because independents and conservatives crossed over to support the issue.

>> we have to sneak in a break. we should go back to ohio and the state of the ohio voter because i was in ohio. there were lawn signs all over the state. the amendment was popular across partisan divides and that is right now the coalition kamala harris is putting together. so i think i hope there's a thing going on. we'll talk about that more on the other side of a quick break. also the ahead, the only thing more anti-democratic than jailing critics of the decisions made by the supreme court is the person now hoping to make that reality, wait until you hear what trump, a serial antagonist of judges and law enforcement, has planned. and later in the broadcast, dark history threatening to repeat itself if trump wins in november, assigning numbers to targets of the state. the disgraced ex-president has something like that in mind as part of his plan to deport

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should a woman be forced to carry a child to term after she's been the victim of incest or rape? pz. >> we want women and young boys in the womb to have the right to life. i think two wrongs don't make a right. >> this is one of the great

tricks of the sexual revolution pulled on the american populous, which is this idea that, okay, these marriages were fundamentally -- they were maybe even violent, but they were unhappy. so getting rid of them and making it easier for people to shift spouses like they change their underwear, that's going to make people happier in the long-term. >> we're effectively run in this country be it democrats or corporate al oligarchs by childless cat ladies so they want to make the rest of the country miserable too. >> there's something comparable between abortion and slavery. >> we're back with claire, minnie and sarah. it strikes me watching vance in his own words, this massagist month sajny, they would have teams that would dig up things. he's just out and proud. what is it -- who are they talking to? what are they going to do in a

debate with that guy as their vice presidential candidate? >> here's what i think they are trying to do. i go back to this strategy of picking jd vance was about running up the numbers with sort of secular men. there's this sort of new -- we could call it the mans fear, but it ranges from tucker carlson to some of the guys at the daily wire over to the jordan peterson, andrew tate, but there's a massive web of influencers speaking to young men -- it dove tails with gaming culture, barstool sports culture. so that is -- so both donald trump and jd vance, if you look at the podcasts that they go on, where they are sort of trying to appeal to people, it is in this young men. i think that's what's happening. but here's the thing they didn't bank on.

they thought they were going to be running against joe biden. so they thought that they would have really low enthusiasm among the democratic coalition and they would be able to run up the turnout numbers with men. and thn the switch happened. and despite how angry donald trump is he's no longer running against joe biden and he continues to talk about joe biden like he is running against him, the fact is he's running against kamala harris. and kamala harris very quickly put that democratic coalition back together, reenergized and now is fighting for swing voters. i talked to swing voters in focus groups. they think he's the worst. that childless cat lady stuff has broken through to women and men too. they think this guy is creepy and weird. he's got extraordinarily low approval ratings. and every time he goes on one of these shows, he digs the hole deeper because he is a massage knits. a lot of misogyny from donald trump, so much of that is baked

in because it happened such a long time ago. jd vance has reraised donald trump's misogyny. it's made it a surround sound. issue, just like these other candidates down ballot. and it's creating a party-wide phenomenon. this is a party that's hostile to women. i think that's what where you're seeing the numbers break the way that they are. >> claire, i hear exactly what you're saying about this crypto bro mentality. it was their play, but i guess the reality is hopefully there aren't enough of them. what are your thoughts about the final 42 days? >> i remember back being on "meet the press" panel and discussing the fall of roe v.

wade before the midterms in 2022. there was some republican folks on the panel that said, well, we looked at polling. it really isn't polling as a top issue. we don't really think it's going to be that big a deal. i remember looking across the table, and oh really? these guys don't understand. i adopt think they truly understand. i don't think they respect women enough to get that running a campaign just to get the bros is not going to get them in the white house. and jd vance is who he is. that clip you just played, everybody in america should listen to that clip. he actually says that women should stay in a violent marriage. he did a throw away line, changing husbands like you change underwear. getting away from a violent

spouse is complicated and painful and there are millions of women in america who lived through that situation either because of their parents or someone else in their family circle. a violent marriage is never anything you should encourage a woman to stay in. and he did. that's what he believes. he believes that. and he's the vice presidential nominee. so i think tim walz has a pretty simple job. he just needs to be the kind of dad that loves his daughters and respects women. >> i think this idea of men, a referendum on men, american men is hard to talk about and hard to cover. the same way that men are on a monolith. but i think every gamer crypto bro who is sucked into the information ecosystem is someone's son. they are someone's partner. i think the idea that the republican party is banking on

the dehumanization not just of women, but of men, that men can sit and nod. women should stay in marriages and not be able to change their husbands as quickly as they change underwear. i think we are selling men short to think that isn't a message that should be sered into the mind of every per spect swing male voter. i wonder you sort of cracked the code on making sure that abortion, as a matter of life and death, as a reproductive health care and choice issue, as an ivf issue, this is in front of all voters, not just women. how do you make sure in the next 40 days that men understand the full scare scale of acceptance of violence towards women, the legality of the abortion bans that affect not just women, but any woman who died in georgia and had a young son. this is not just women's crisis.

this is a crisis for women and all the men who love them. >> i think the harris campaign, we have great partners in the harris campaign. the point claire just made about tim walz, we have tim walz out there. we have doug im hof out there. we just did an event with doug, with the second gentleman, i should say. men for choice is an organization of young men whose whole slogan is get off the sidelines or in the fight. this is for us. this isn't just about our mothers or sisters or daughters. this is also our fundamental freedom to decide if and when to have a family so we need to have more skin in the game. we saw the great work by our friends at white dudes for harris. appreciated the recent event with oprah. we have a lot of great ways to reach men on this issue, and it's really important, but i do want to underscore something. going back to ohio, jd vance won ohio.

he's a senator from ohio, elected. a lot of the crazy stuff coming out now, we knew a lot of it then. tim ryan tried to use it to win. so there's a very dark underbelly of misogyny and racist in the country. do not sleep on that. do not take it lightly. the gender gap, we could lose it. we have to fight like we're 10 points behind. we have to talk to all the people in our life, particular ly the men. we have to fight that racist attack that's happening right now. andrew tate is famous for a reason. jordan peterson is famous for a reason. we have to fight with everything we've got. >> i do have this bus tour fantasy where mark cuban, tim mcgraw and dick cheney get on a bus bound for erie, pa. does that make any sense? >> i'm not sure about dick

cheney how he's doing health wise for a bus tour, but this idea for fighting for men's votes is really important. i think one of the worse things that could happen in this election is you end up in sort of a boys vs. girls dchotomy around this election. it can't just be deploying tim walz. kamala harris needs to get out there. one of the things that we know is that the more people see of kamala harris, the more they like her, the more people see of donald trump, the less they like him. i think she has to get out there and make her her own pitch to men. she's going to be their president too. i think she has a lot to offer. i agree we should give men more credit than maybe we are sometimes in the way that we're framing some of the -- there is this boys club, but i listen to swing-voting men, they are appalled by a lot of what donald

trump says. i hear men all the time in focus groups hating the way that donald trump talks about women. and so i think that this coalition doesn't work unless there are lots of men who are a part of it. >> thank you for starting us off and spending time with us. up next for us, after months of leveling attacks against federal and state judges, donald trump is turning it around now suggesting it should be illegal to do that. to krit sides judges and justices. we'll bring you that story, next. justices we'll bring you that story, next

the supreme court, very brave. they take a lot of hits because of it. it should be illegal. these people should be put in jail the way they talk about our judges and our justices trying to get them to sway their vote. sway their decision. >> these people should be put in jail the way they talk about our judges. come again? that was america's republican rom nominee threatening to jail the citizens of the united states for criticizing judges. but not all judges, just trump's hand picked supreme court justices who is are in the majority who made the decision on dobbs. it should have been predictable given the supreme court has time and time again shown its willingness and enthusiasm to do

trump's bidding, including granting trump more than he asked for on the immunity question, given absolute immunity from prosecution this their last term. it's just the latest in the many ways trump has openly vowed to weaponize the federal government for his own political purposes if elected to a second term. >> under no circumstances, you're promising america tonight. you'd never abuse power as retribution against anybody? >> except for day one. >> wouldn't it be terrible to threat the president's wife and the former secretary of state, the president's wife sba jail. wouldn't that be a terrible thing. but they want to do it. so it's a terrible, terrible path they are leading us to. it's very possible that it's going to have to happen to them. >> they have done something that allows the next party -- if i happen to be president and i see somebody who is doing well and

beating me very badly, i say go down and indict them. >> i say, go down and indict them. joining us now is president of media matters for america. claire is still with us. angelo, at some point, there are no new trump stories, but this was a new twist. trump, who is the subject of gag orders because of the actual tangible connection between his rhetoric and threats against people attached to court proceedings said people should be jailed who criticize judges. not all judges. just his picks and the people who side with him on the supreme court. that's how it would be, should he be reelected. >> yeah, and i'll start by noting, and unfortunately i have the great pain of watching almost all of his speeches now, but this is the second time he's said it. he said it on august 20th.

same language, our justices, our justices, they should be put in jail. they should be fined or worse. he was refining it back then. and now he's landed on it. and the part that i find staggering about it, aside from the fact thinks about it that they are our judge justices, the doj is not only there to defend him, but as we have seen with project 2025 and all these discussions about their new administration is a weapon of revenge and retribution against political opponents. in addition to that, it's just the rank hypocrisy. this is a guy that back in march took content -- something that lauras was saying about a judge's daughter and then himself promoted it. it ended up getting the judge to have to revise his gag order to include attacks on his family.

even places like fox news, where sean hannity sort of warming them back up again. in the three weeks when the trial started to when the trial ended, fox news launched 220 specific individual vicious attacks against the judge, not criticism. we didn't even count those. just the attacks that were fabricated. so i guess we shouldn't be surprised at this point by the hypocrisy, but recognize he's refining this revenge agenda, and he's drawing firm lines about the teams. temperatures his judges, it's not all judges. it's not the system, it's just his people. >> and we now have all the information we need to decide if this is what we want. he did this with his generals, my generals, my generals. it's why most of them quit. mattis quit.

after failing to impart that the generals don't belong to him, they serve the country. what is in your view? i take your point. i mised it in august when he said people would be jailed for attacking his judges who ruled in the maejty on dobbs. what, in your view, gets that to breakthrough in the last 42 days? >> it's just like what's happened now. we're paying attention with a new lens. i think that's been critical. it's something we have discussed as the summer has progressed, that you have to look at some of these things with fresh eyes. we have either become too numb to the flamboyant things. one of the things that's changed the context there is that because project 2025 is operational liezed, so the chance of it being executed is more real now. the threat is much more significant because of all the

planning that has gone involved. we have to sort of take a new look at what it actually means. these aren't just off-handed comments or red meat to get the base activated. these are actually expressions that will turn into reality. so even something here, comment about the judges, i can see why they would gloss over the first time that gets said. he says so many random things in his speeches, but this is the moment where we have to actually start to become scrutinized. so to your question, what others are doing, the fact that we're paying to the comments and not treating them as red meat, but wait a minute, this is another example. this is another pearl in the string that is being construct ed here. we have to decide if this is the reality that we willingly want to walk into. that's the choice that we still have in the next few days. it's that it's still a choice we get to make. and just before the show started and put into focus, one of the

would-be attorney generals said he was going to be put in jail. right away. and this is sort of that larger working to try to get people to shut back, to go along to get along. they are escalating because they are ill presentationing an advantage and the most critical thing we can do, especially people of positions of influence and platforms, is to not let ourselves be numb to the past and to take fresh eyes at what's being said here because it will be reality. >> and to talk about it. i started talking in the summer about the fact i was swatted in the spring. and george said me too. i think to out their tactics as having the intent of silencing the critics. i have to sneak in a break. don't go anywhere. o sneak in a k don't go anywhere.

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this one is for you. claire, i want to come to you on what trump means about critics of the supreme court decision. they include other supreme court justices like justice soviet mayor. the decision to grant the criminal immumty reshapes the institution presidency. it makes a mockery of the principle, foundational to our constitution and system of government, that no man is above the law. the majority declares that evidence concerning acts for which the prosecute is immune can play no role in any criminal prosecution against him. that holding is nonsensical.

this majority's project will have disastrous consequences for the presidency and for our democracy. no matter how you look at it, the majority's official acts immunity is utterly indefensible. the most articulate and powerful critique of his judges that exist. >> it's interesting that he is saying this. i thought it was interesting when other guests pointed out he said it originally in a rally awhile ago. which what's happening here is kamala harris said to america, go to one of his rallies and listen to what he's saying. she was intentional about that. were and people were walking out. what is contained in those rallies is scary stuff. he has surfing off the idea that he's been prosecuted because

he's a political opponent but in reality it is because he broke the law. but he has convinced his cult that he's only been prosecuted because he's out there fighting for them. if you actually listen to what he said at rallies and you isolate it and then you listen, and you read what he posted on trudge social, there is a good article in the atlantic today that said if america would read his posts on truth social, it would frighten them. and it is true. i don't see them. i don't want to see them. i think most americans don't see them. the people who support him rabidly see them and journalists may see them. but their just worn slick by this guy and some of them are covering them, well, i think others not so much. they normalized him. but what he said in isolation is so unamerican. it is so against the values of this country. it is frightening to me that he

is so comfortable writing these things on truth social and saying these things in front of his supporters, because they would have been dismissed out of hand when i began in politics maybe more than a few years ago. >> such a good point. you guys make me think and make my brain hurt. thank you both so much for spending some time with us. another quick break. we'll be right back. another quick break. we'll be right back. loving par. known for lessons that matter. known for being a free spirit. no one wants to be known for cancer, but a treatment can be. keytruda is known to treat cancer, fda-approved for 17 types of cancer. one of those cancers is advanced nonsquamous, non-small cell lung cancer, where keytruda is approved to be used with certain chemotherapies as your first treatment if you do not have an abnormal “egfr” or “alk” gene. keytruda can cause your immune system to attack healthy parts of your body during or after treatment. this may be severe and lead to death.

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these guys actually want these people in our country. it is not even believable. working with left-wing nonprofits to change the character of small towns and villages all over our country and changing them forever. they will never be the same. they will never be. do you think springfield will ever be the same. i don't think so. the fact is -- and i'll say it now. you have to get them the hell out. you have to get them out. i'm sorry. get them out. can't have it. can't have it.

they destroyed it. [ crowd chanting ] >> send them back! >> hi, everyone, it is 5:00 in new york. we'll stop right here in case it wasn't clear, the crowd at the rally in pennsylvania is chanting send them back. after being egged on by the disgraced twice impeached four times indicted ex president. and the them here are illegal immigrants, in particular thousands of haitian immigrants living in springfield, ohio, immigrants who again are here legally, the republican governor of ohio said are helping that city that they live in make an economic comeback. but over on two, they have destroyed springfield as they chanted there to send them back. again, no mention that the fact that the immigrant community in

springfield is being terrorized with bomb threats and smeared and wild accusations stemming from the original lie about eating dogs and cats. yes, we've seen donald trump lull out this tired old playbook before. but his rally last night was unusually dangerous and unhinged even for donald trump. in 90 claims he said he got much better crowds than championshiphill and brought up johnny carson andin salting jimmy kimmel and called himself very strong and complained about the horrible commercial fox news airs after his interviews. and suggested that anybody who criticized the supreme court should be put in jail. the most generous description of a performative old man, unfocused maybe. anyone else, ex president joe biden did that for 90 minutes,

there would be mountains of coverage of his cognitive decline, of course. but make no mistake, trump's recent rives on immigrants on order of magnitude more vicious and deranged and dangerous and tied to threats that we're seeing in springfield, ohio. than anything we've seen. and again, they're not without consequence. today a haitian nonprofit organization filed criminal charges again donald trump and j.d. vance over their repeated claims without evidence that haitian immigrants in springfield are eating pets. jon favreau call the rant last night, some dark, twisted adding to the immigrants in springfield, ohio are here legally and made the city for prosperous and most residents doesn't want them to leave. trump wants to use springfield, ohio to help himself and he doesn't give a bleep who gets hurt.

again, this is not bluster. donald trump is running on this. 42 days to go and this is his dark vision of the america. he's running on his promise of sending them back. also mass deportation of immigrants, drilling down on how he will do it, by quote, invoking war time military. bragging that he could do it fast thanks to some kind of serial numbers he will use for immigrants. so, yes, when trump turns up the volume of demonizing immigrants in this country, and laying out granular chilling details how he'll pull off mass deportation, it is not just a plause line, although that is alarming, this is trump getting the base so riled up saying send them back with the cameras filming their

faces wild they do it. it is what he is. that is who he is to them. that is who they are in this story. it is bigger than that, right. it is deadly serious. the world is watching. six weeks to go, folks. it is where we start the hour with our favorite experts and friends. contributor charlie psychs is here, plus host of the bulwark podcast tim miller is here. tim, i start with you. >> well, nicolle, i had to suffer through that last night when it was happening live. and i just, i -- we could get into the politics in it in a second but i help but think about myself in middle school or high school, and you're looking at the pictures and videos of like the racist counter rallies of people blocking schools trying to integrate in the '60s and thinking, you know, man, that was really long ago. this is -- that is really history. and then as you get older, you

realize, wait a minute, no, those people are still alive and they're still with us. that was just 20 years ago. that was not history. that is now. like, that just vile racism that you saw at those rallies for george wallace or something like that is not history, it is present. and i was watching that last night and thinking about my kid, that is how they're going to feel about this. how you could look at a rally where there is a whole gathering of a mob and they're shouting send them back, send them back to people that are here legally. like, they are talking about, i guess, some sort of extra legal deportation sending people that are contributing to the community, are working, are going to church, are putting their kids in school, are volunteering, they're sending these people back to a country that there is violence, where there is no opportunity for what reason? like, lies.

like fantastical racist lies. that is what underpins all of this. and it is really sickening. he does a lot of gross stuff. there is a lot of stuff that makes me mad. but this is the thing that boils my blood the most. because it is just fundamentally unamerican. like the haitians that have moved into springfield are doing the same thing that every other group that all of our parents and grandparents did and in my case, the lebanese and the german and they all came to the midwest and tried to find jobs and had kids and had a family. that is the american story. and this is a fundamental attack on it in the most racist demagoguic way magical and it is sick and we've been doing it for nine years so it shouldn't be surprising but that doesn't make it any less gross. >> yeah. i wonder what makes you scream

send it back in the light of day with cameras rolling. what is that about, charlie sykes? >> well, at the republican national convention here in milwaukee, they held up signs mass deportation. as you point out, this is who donald trump is. this is not -- this is not a gaf or a one off. this is what he is running on and he's doubling down on it. and to tim's point, this does feel like a throwback to a much darker more dangerous period of american history. we've been through these cycles before and that i think is part of cognitive that is actually happening now. you might remember that a couple of years ago, he made this reference about african american congresswomen saying send them back and people were having this deep and shocking, now he has an entire crowd chanting this. and why are they focusing on the haitians of springfield. the racism is so raw.

and i can't help think that we are six weeks out from this election and what commentary it will be on american culture if the american people, if, in fact, they look at this man and they say yeah, let's put him back in pow,er, and the issue of mass deportation and he keeps talking about it and there are polls that americans wan to do that but i'm not sure that we've come to grips with what it means to take millions of people, put them in trains on buses and arrest them and round them up, use military, use police, separate parents from children, it would be one of the greatest humanitarian disasters of our time. and yet it does feel like millions of americans are shrugging their shoulders and going we're okay with all of this. but we're six weeks out and i'm

grad you highlighted this. because this is the choice. this is what it bottles down. this is the choice, for what kind of a country we'll be in the eyes of the rest of the world. >> well and none of have said it but i will. trump talks about serial numbers. that is not just our heinous history of the south, that is the holocaust and there were serial numbers in the japanese internment camps. >> right on the arms. >> so let me show you that. don't take my word for it. tame trumps. >> their a threat to democracy. what they're doing to our country, they're poisoning our country. they're poisoning it. and you can take a look in ohio, what is happening, you could take a look at aurora in colorado and see what is happening. but those are two that have been in the news. we have hundreds of little towns and cities that are being taken over by migrants.

if you take a young woman, with two beautiful children, and you put her on a bus, and it ends up on the front page of every newspaper, it makes it a lot harder. >> so yes, to mass deportation even of women and children. >> so we're looking at it very closely but we're getting the criminals out and we're going to do that fast and we know who they are. the local police know their names and their serial numbers and know everything about them. >> so women and children on the table. we know what that looks like and sounds like. propublica broke the story of children being ripped from mother's hands. so they are out. they're going to be put on buses. trump said that if you take a woman with two beautiful children and put her on a bus, for the purposes of getting it on a newspaper. it is always about the press coverage. but the talk of serial numbers has to sound heinous to history. >> it does. and the camps and he's talking about camps and who knows what

it looks like. but we know it is gross. we know for a couple of reasons. because we lived it with sort of the trial run version of this that donald trump tried to do with stephen miller the first time he was in power. i remember, i wrote about this article for the bulwark many years ago now and i'm for getting the kids first name and his brother were in texas and they were doing a mass kind of crackdown at the moment and because the brother was undocumented because they didn't believe that the documented immigrants papers, they kept him in a cell for days. hi mother didn't speak english and they can't figure out how to get him out of there. we saw this and trump admitted it in the video. if do you this, there will be instances where you round up a mother and the wrong person.

that is what they're talking about. we're going to do a mass deportation and try to get the criminals but as part of the round up, we're going to get some mothers would didn't do anything wrong as well. that is insane and it is unamerican. and j.d. vance, his running mate knows this is true. and in 2016 j.d. vance said about donald trump's immigrant platforms, god wants better of us. and he said the conservatives know, they don't trust government and i think he said to run the dmv, how could we trust the government to deport many millions of people. and to do it efficiently and to do within the law and we can't. that is j.d. vance. and they know they can't just deport the criminals and j.d. vance knows god wants better of us but they will do it any way. and as adam serwe are said to this, this is the point of the political program. >> we're past the points of clapping and giving the paper

plate award to the republicans, paul ryan, who said i'm not going to do it, not going to vote for donald trump. where is the alarm? where is the republican effort to stop this dehumanization of asylum-seekers and immigrants and illegal immigrants and where is the effort to say this is not who we are and this is hurting our communities. where is the effort to say enough is enough. i believe in conservative bag of tricks but this isn't conservative, it is unamerican. >> i'm writing an article about this right now. and the reality is there are a lot of conservatives who have drawn the line but there are not enough and they're saying well we disagree with donald trump on these issues and with kamala harris on these other issues as if this is a normal choice. as if we're making a choice based on what is your capital gains tax rate is going to be. what is your policy going to be with the fed? no, this is one of those fundamental moments frozen in

time where america has to decide. and again, there is nothing subtle about the racism here. he's moved on from mexicans to haitians. haitians who are here legally. and he keeps talking about it even though his initialtory has been completely debunked, completely refuted, the republican governor of ohio has said, no stop doing this. these people are here, they are working, they are -- they have been invited here. they are here legally. and yet donald trump has decided that he's going to talk about these immigrants and it is not just the serial numbers, over and over again he's talked about how these migrants, again who are here legally, are poisoning the blood of american -- of the united states. they are poisoning our blood. now this is real throwback rhetoric. i don't think there is no glossing over this. there is no normalization of this. and we've had this conversation

for -- >> just say it, charlie. a though back to what? poisoning the blood. >> that is literally hitler -- hitlerry an rhetoric. and catherine rampell writes in "the washington post," the reason why people draw these historical parallels because they're so, the fact that you're talking about rounding people up that are poisoning the blood and making them aliens. again, there are real distinctions to be drawn here. but for republicans to look at them and again we've had this conversation for nine years, how do you look at him and not go, okay, i may have very -- a lot of policy and ideology differences from the other party, but this is not about those policy differences. this is about something that goes to the heart and soul of who we are as a country. and for people ringing their hands, well, she would spend too

much money or all of this tough, could we just freeze the moment and look at what donald trump is saying that he's going to do. what he is explicitly running on, the lies he's willing to tell and the threats and i will make one more point, this is something that i think he intended to do. eight years ago, he said i will build a wall and mexico is going to pay for it and i think we knew that was bogus and i think we need to take this literally and seriously. i believe that he is thinking through the infrastructure, how he would use this. he would bypass congress and the courts and there would be little or no due process in what he's doing here and so, again, this is one of those choices where we have to decide what we are as a country. not where we stand on the democrat, republican, conservative, liberal continuum, because we're way off of that. >> no one is going anywhere. when we come back, kamala harris

is broadening her support. we'll show you the brand-new ad aimed directly at winning over the folks we're talking about. disaffected republicans. also ahead, one of the targets of the disgraced ex president's weaponization of the department of justice former trump attorney michael cohen will be our guest and what could be in store for many, many people in the second administration. and what a pro-democracy president sounds like. we'll hear what joe biden told world leaders during his final address to the united nations general assembly today. "deadline: white house" continues after a quick break. don't go anywhere. t go anywhere. daddy, hi! subject 3: i missed you. my daughter is being treated for leukemia. subject 2: mom, mom, mom, mom. subject 3: i hope that she lives a long, great, happy life and that she will never forget how mom and daddy love her. st. jude, this is what's keeping my baby girl alive.

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ahead of vice president kamala harris's visit to arizona this week. the republicans for harris advisery committee announced that the membership has tripled with 90 additional arizona republicans joining the group since it was formed back in august. this adds to the nearly 230 former aides of republican presidents and republican campaigns around the country who are backing vice president kamala harris over donald trump. the harris campaign is leaning in to that support with a new ad aimed at giving life long republicans and former trump voters permission to support the vice president. watch. >> we both voted for donald trump. >> i voted for him ve for him a. >> january 6 was a wake-up call for me. >> donald trump divides people. >> he didn't do anything to help us. kamala harris cares about the american people. i think she has the wherewithal to make a difference. i've never voted for a democrat. >> we're both life long

republicans. >> the choice is very simple. >> i'm voting for kamala harris. >> we're back with charlie and tim. i'm, i'm smiling, because i went out and interviewed obama clinton voters who voted for trump and the phenomenon is ripe por a departure and nnd aban -- and the abandoning that into voter turnout in 42 days. >> i think there are a lot of trump voters that could be switched. i like that they're focusing on the three of us, former republicans ten years ago. but people that actually voted for trump. i think that is good. that helps with the credibility and the permission structure. the january 6 i think is important. the thing i would like to see them layer on and rant on your show, there are a few more big

names i'd like to hear from, and trump cabinet officials. but in addition to that, something that the harris campaign could control, and think january 6 and tone is important but there is a policy case that could be made and trump this week talking about the tariffs and i know that might seem boring, but in the philly and the atlanta suburbs and talking to the mitt romney republicans, donald trump said this week he's going around congress to institute a across the board tariffs. so when people start coming to you saying i don't like the character and i like the policies, there is a policy case that could be made against him. we talked about the mass deportations and across the board 10% tariff giving ukraine to russia, those on foreign policy and economic policy, there is a policy case that can be made to these voters and i hope that the campaign continues to make it. because they've been doing a good job at it frankly to date. >> charlie. >> i used up my quote of the

word in the first hour, but it is absolute -- mm, to stay the most destabling thing is autocracy turning into putin-esque, deporting tens ever thousands of people and some of them here legally. that is a economic disruptor, the likes you have to have a natural disaster or attack to liken what he has said he will do to what it could do to any country's economy. woe destroy the economy. and you have people like mark cuban, who i think are very effective messengers on this tariff alone. but what in your view helps to blow out any last person who thinks that what he's actually running on would be good for anyone's personal economy or the country? >> well i think it was just in the last couple of days that he suggested to a crowd down in mar-a-lago that he would pay off

the international $35 trillion debt with crypto. that he would create a coin and give it to them. so i think that one of the points you have to make is that when you say that i don't like his policies, their complete gibberish at this point. including the massive tax that will make everything more expensive. but i think there is another message out there that is not policy based. let me put it this way. we've been struck on freef previous elections, that are you better off than four years ago. i think the answer is yes. but i think the real question is 2024 is forward-looking and it will be do you really want to endure four por years of this? do you want four more years of chaos? do you want four more years of having to go through all of this? because i think that there is a segment of the electorate that is just exhausted by this.

that is turned off by this. this is not the maga core, this is jazzed up every time he gets indicted and impeached and said something that is overtly racist. but i think there are the voters who are thinking, you know, how much longer do we have to put up with this. and i think that there is also the other factor that i'm noticing talking with voters is that initially, i'm talking about conservative republican voters, the kamala harris was a tough sell because they didn't know her. she's got a long progressive track record. and so there is this period now over the next six weeks where they will become more comfortable with here and i agree with tim, there are big names that i would like to come out and at some point mitt romney, would you bite the bullet. if you don't want him in the white house, this is it. it is a binary choice. with each one of the endorsements, it becomes easier for them to say, okay, i'm not

the outlier, i am -- my values haven't changed, but what we're seeing here with the republican party and with donald trump has abandoned everything that i thought the republican party was for, they have abandoned everything that i believe in. i just can't leave with myself if i go along with all of this. so i do think there is a possibility that as the comfort level with her rises an the exhaustion level becomes more, again, do you want to go through this and do you want to have another january 6, do you want to turn over ukraine to vladimir putin? do you want to see these crackpot ideas implemented. ? did you want to see your neighbors rounded up an put into camps, that there will be that small but decisive segment of the electorate that said no more. we can't do it any more. >> he's the only person who benefits from his stupidity. and his incompetence. because the worse stuff, people like, oh, john bolt on's

position, he's too incompetence to do it. it is an amazing political study. charlie sykes and tim miller, no one better to talk to about it. when we come back, yesterday we brought you explosive new reporting about how donald trump used his first term as president to actually do what he talked about doing. go after his perceived enemies. one of the people he targeted and prosecuted and threw into jail was his former personal attorney michael cohen. he'll be our next guest.

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the man that you're following into this dumpster fire of hell is placing this democracy, placing our american democracy in peril. and people don't realize, democracy is not a constitutional right. it is an experiment. and this man has single-handedly figured out how to destroy it. by using the justice department, by ignoring the three branches of government, thinking that he is the dictator, the supreme leader, the ruler and the monarch and the king and those aren't my words, those are his words. >> that warning, i think this was the first time that i spoke to you, but that warning from michael cohen about donald trump 's intent to destroy democracy by weaponizing the justice department is even more chilling now than when he first said that on this show. in the wake of brand-new reporting in "the new york

times" we brought you yesterday, on this program, the ex-president's effort to prosecute his enemies and the aides who barely succeeded at pulling him down and the danger now with trump vowing on a retribution campaign if he wins in november, any sort of scrap of a guardrail to try to slow him down the first time will not be there. joining us now to describe what that would look like, michael cohen. he's host of the michael cohen show on youtube. we were so much younger and more innocent then. >> well, the crazy thing is one or two years ago, when i said that, that was before the announcement of project 20 24rks before all of this became a reality and now we're living with it. it is exactly what i predicted. very similar to when i was testifying before the house oversight committee and i told you, i warned the whole country

and the world if donald trump lost the election in 2020, there would never be a peaceful transfer of power and i'm warning the country today on your show, like i did, if donald trump wins in november, there will never be another location again. >> "the new york times" article out this week, i think, brings to light something you've written about in both of your books and that is that he sought -- he threw you back in jail not for the crimes that were scrutinized by the department of justice, but because you were going to write a book and talk about him. >> correct. so i showed up at the request of the bureau of prisons to 500 pulse street where i was met by two individuals. two low level b.o.p. people and they provided me with a document and i gave you those documents so you could show the entire world this is not me making it up. this is reality. they gave me this two-page

document that had no identification numbers on it. it is not a legitimate -- as jamie raskin called it, it is a counterfeit document and the first paragraph was a complete and total violation of my first amendment rights. can i not publish a book, or speak on radio or do anything. not only could i not do it. but friends an family need to be warned of repercussions if i do. i brought my friend with me because i knew something felt wrong. and we said, is there a way to tamp down the language. my book "disloyal", my first book is already with the printers sox if i sign this i'll be in violation. oh, sure, why don't you wait in the hallway and we'll get back to you after we hear fromure supervisors. i say great. three of the biggest marshals i've ever seen in my life handcuff and shackles and they

put me back up in otisville for another 16 days of solitary confinement before thank god a million times for judge alvin hellerstein acknowledged this was a writ of certiori fwhauz matter that deals with the over turns of the bivens case needs to be decided and discussed by the supreme court. >> you mentioned the supreme court. donald trump yesterday in his rally yesterday said that anyone who criticized the justices that decided dobs should be arrested and jailed. >> now take out justices and put in michael cohen and donald trump. isn't that the exact same thing. anybody that criticized donald trump, you know, like michael cohen should become jailed. >> that is his policy. >> and that is what he did. that is what he wants to do.

i don't know why people are so blind. why are we sane washing the nonsense that he keeps saying again and again. don't take it from michael cohen. don't take it from nicolle wallace or mike schmidt or anybody else that has written accurately about him. take it from him. it is his words. he's warning you, in advance, what he intends to do and that intention is to complete and total destruction of our rule of law and the constitution. >> why do you think people are shrugging him off like he's not serious? >> i have no idea. i can't figure out. i mean, listen to all of the vile things that he said. he's marginalized, he's denigrated every single community in this country but one. the white supremacists. it is the only group that he hasn't. he comes down the golden escalator, it is mexicans and

then muslims and jews and hispanics and friends of mine, who are smart, jewish folk from the upper east side, we're all in for trump, he has these idiots bamboozled. >> why? >> for many of them it is money. >> an autocracy is not a stable economy. >> they believe it will become the american oligarchs or there will be no taxes or something like that. for mem, i'm not sure why they even think this way. you're willing to give up your daughter's reproductive decision making rights, giving up the constitution and the only reason you have your money is because of the constitution. and the same is going to happen with elon musk. it is another prediction. trump wins and he's going to pull a mohammed bin salman on elon musk and take his money and claiming its a fraud against the country and he wants the money back. bin salman did that to the other

members of the royal family and trump will do the same except he'll keep the money. >> your testimony before over sight is something that still gets replayed in terms of prescient moments and you warned about and talk about how he continues to move the overton window and normalize this conduct. >> he's not the one that is normalizing it. it is the followers, the sycophants doing it. why? again, i don't know. there is something fundamentally wrong with they're thought process, they're racist and now it is posh. before you you used to hide under the rock that you belonged and today it is acceptable commentary and behavior and to sit at the dinner table and to demean haitian immigrants who are here legally, legally and

with the love and respect for the people from springfield, ohio, and to demean them and to make them less than human beings by talking about them eating people's pets, the cats and dogs and geese. i mean, this is so crazy. i can't believe that this man that we're talking about right now, that this is not some "saturday night live" episode, but rather the man who is the republican nominee, one of our two main political parties, he's the nominee. this is astounding. >> i read fred trump's book over the summer, and the racism has always been there. the apartments and the lawsuits from doj. what is different in terms of the guy you knew and worked for and the guy you see running for president in 2024? >> donald has become the absolute worse version of himself imaginable. and i often get asked this question and people say how,

why? he was always there. don't get me wrong. but this is a whole new low by this man. and it is not that he's even thinking about this all on his own. he has surrounded himself from the worst of the worst imaginable. the steve banons, the steve millers, the jason millers, these are the worst of the worst who have -- the shady vance, and the whole group of them. the whole group of them. they are a whole group of racist and sexist. we're know their misogynistic and homophobic and islamaphobic and transphobic and anti-semitic. and one of them may not be all those, but each and every one of them has donald's ear and we used to say at the trump org, the last guy in the ear controls the brain and that is why he acts out with ridiculous comments and making stupid, stupid remarks.

>> what do you think happens in he wins. >> i'm out of here. i'm working on a foreign passport with a completely different name. i don't know how it is going to work as far as dealing with my wife and my children. i certainly don't want them moving to where i'm looking to go. but i -- and i don't think -- you saw the president of the msnbc, general milley, liz cheney, how many people has he turned around an said that these are people that i intend to go after if i have the ability to. and the worst is the supreme court's recent decision that gave him immunity, presidential immunity. now he thinks it is not only can i do whatever i want. but i can't even be prosecuted to get out of jail free card. solely for the president. >> so you're out of here. would you leave the country? >> i have no choice. >> unbelievable.

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if you live or drive or move around manhattan, you know this already. but president joe biden is here in manhattan this afternoon. having delivered his final speech as leader of the free world before the united nations general assembly. there was a focus on foreign relation but also something of a reflection on his decision not to run for a second term. watch. >> as much as i love the job, i love my country more. i decided after 50 years of public service it is time for a new generation of leadership to take my nation forward. my fellow leaders, let us never forget some things are more important than staying in power. it's you're people. [ applause ]

it's you're people that matter the most. >> with me at the table, mike memoli. it is a historic moment, of a historic presidency. but in a personal level, there is probably isn't anyone who has ever stood behind the podium who knows, because the way those posts work in a lot of countries is that a lot people do multiple tours to new york. he has to know more people in the room and that seems like spontaneous applause when he said that. >> he knows a lot of the world leaders since they were parliament arians and the relationships run deep. one consequence of him not running for re-election is hes had more time to spend on what has driven him and that is foreign policy and those people are a higher level of preparation, of thought, he sticks to the script much more closely. and so really watching this

today. >> thought this was the most interesting window, how he's viewing the challenges the world is facing and the ways in which he wants americans to think about this election. so he talked about the need to show that the force that bind us together are stronger than the ones that try to tear us apart. and i love my country in a domestic political context but to see it in that audience, i thought this was particularly striking. i've had a number of staff tell me he's obsessed with the issue of a.i. and to hear him talk about that and the policy issues that are driving him. i've been learning more about what he's been thinking in the speech today than the last few weeks for sure. >> and he mentioned the vice president today. >> he hasn't done that in the three previous addresses to the u.n. general assembly and he talked about the decision the world faces as far as supporting ukraine and in the decision in the context the fact that he's

going to meet with president zelenskyy and vice president harris is going to and the former president is going to meet with president zelenskyy and so that he knows so much of the legacy depends on whether kamala harris is successful so i think it is important to mention her today. >> do you have any reporting on his end of what is meant around the world to all of the leaders knows so well that donald trump couldn't say that he wanted ukraine to win the war in his debate with harris. >> i think he's been watching this campaign play out from the side lines and certainly wants engagine more than he has been able to. i know privately that is the kind of thing that he has -- livid about behind the scenes. but he's not having that many side line engagements with world leaders this week. that is a window into maybe what we could hear. it was interesting to see him with the clintons yesterday.

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